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The top albums of the 2000s spreadsheet has been updated today with the list from LostAtSea.
Updated again with the lists from Mondo Sonoro.
Thanks to otisredding this time.
Very, very disappointed by how poorly Cat Power's You Are Free is doing. Definitely one of the decade's best albums and it had the reviews and EOY-listings to back it up. But it's only on ONE EOD list so far??
I also wish Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein was higher but that one I can understand. It's much more underground. But Cat Power? Her The Greatest is in the top 100!
i wish the other animal collective albums were being repped more. I mean, MPP is top 10 but I was actually thinking that the success of MPP would help bring up Person Pitch, Strawberry Jam and Feels a lot but i suppose it isn't as much as i hoped.
Updated with the Playground list!
Interestingly enough, the T7 albums seems relatively stable. I wouldn't be surprised if, even with many many more lists added, those seven albums were still in the T10. Silet Shout and Merriweather at the top is of course great.
Also, that Supreme Clientele is so high makes me happy. That album is much better than Fishscale; maybe the best Wu release ever.
The top 7 is a healthy smattering of what made the 00s great. Two rap albums, a dance based record, and probably the 4 indie rock albums that defined the decade.
does anyone know when the next website update will be?
and why aren't they adding the Clash's decade list to the update spreadsheet??? x.x
Updated with Paste and Muzikalia.
Thanks Harold and otisredding! You are now working as a great team!
Wooohooo! YHF #4! Illinoise #8! Nick Cave on the rise!
I like this update!
This update is pretty great. Ten of my T10 albums are in the T11, and 13/20 of my T20 are in the T20. It's like the list gets better with each update.
What's your top 10 SR?
Of my top 10:
1 is in the top 10
1 is in the top 20
2 are in the top 50
2 are in the top 100
3 are in the top 200
7 are in the top 500
In this case I'd like to meet MOONBEAM three albums that are not among the 500 of
I am sad that Amnesiac, Hail to the Thief, and The Eraser are probably going to fall off a lot. They don't deserve that.
On the other hand, I am happy that Moon and Antarctica is getting more recognition!
Jeez, what's with the indie-crit backlash against Neon Bible?
So Henrik, am I to understand that these lists won't actually raise the 00s? It'll just move them around?
like if we currently shuffled them it'd be:
01. Arcade Fire- Funeral (62)
02. Radiohead- Kid A (92)
03. The Strokes- Is This It (108)
04. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (112)
05. LCD Soundsystem- Sound of Silver (124)
06. OutKast- Stankonia (127)
07. Jay-Z- The Blueprint (129)
08. Sufjan Stevens- Illinois (131)
09. The White Stripes- Elephant (133)
10. Animal Collective- Merriweather Post Pavillion (156)
Sorry for my faux-pas.
Updated with Rock de Lux! Thanks Pablo and Harold!
Now updated with RDL's national list as well. I have also assigned a lower weight to the national lists.
do these critics and writers have advanced copies of music that's coming out from November and December of this year? Cause to not even wait to see if an all out classic is going to come out late in the year is pretty ignorant. If they had started doing these best of the decade polls in mid 1979 they would have completely left out London Calling.
Well, as you can see Tim, some late late 90s albums have made 00s lists. I imagine some late 00s albums will make 10s lists.
This is a dumb question, but I am still confused on how this all works. When I look at the new EOD album and song rankings that you post in the spreadsheets, how are these going to influence the update? Are they the exact replacement numbers or do they integrate in with the current decade order somehow?
Any explanation would be appreciated.
It will be factored in, but won't completely replace the other rankings.
I would exclude all non english and non american lists or weighted them down for relevance(lack of) reasons.
For example those spanish journos are bunch of clueless morons, they should write only on local music.
I mean no In Rainbows in any of those stupid continental lists? Ignorance is no excuse here. Just my 2$.
Updated with the list from Karlporz. Thanks to Giuseppe (and Harold as always).
Sound of Silver needs a turnaround! A top 5 placement is in order, stat!
I'm coming from the opposite end; my pick for the album of the Decade, Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot lost serious points when two magazines decided to rank it's inferior follow-up, A Ghost is Born, as their best Wilco album.
If you replaced A Ghost is Born with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot on those two lists, YHF would be gaining on Is This It...instead it's barely top 5.
Well Honorio, Im not worried at the slightest, it would be weird to abandon your liked music because of one totally unrelated opinion.
My dislike for lists from non english speaking countries comes from reading my local mags. In majority of cases writers to them dont understand lyrics duly, dont understand musical context, they grew up on different music which remain yardstick through of which all music is looked on. They dont know what is ham acting and what is truly original, then they compile list based on their pure knowledge plus they throw in some items they are told to do.
See it has not that much to do with Radiohead although omission of In Rainbows is the most blatant example of mentioned above.
Many thanks for your educated answer, I was not expecting it on the basis of your first post. Anyway I’m sorry but I’m going to (respectfully) disagree again:
- Of course it’s preferable to fully understand the lyrics (that’s the main reason because I really can’t go deeply into hip hop) but today it only takes a minimum level of curiosity and an Internet connection to be able to read any song lyric. But, even more important, you can connect with a song in a only pure musical level without understanding a single word, that’s the greatness of music and that’s why I consider it superior to other forms of art.
- And, what’s that thing about that you must talk the language to understand the context? So, I could not simply understand the situation in Palestine, for instance, unless I learn Arabic first? Should I not even try? Is it impossible for me to form my opinion? As you suggest, although I look for contrasted information, my opinion simply would not be allowed. Of course I’m not suggesting that every opinion is equally valuable but you are supposing that all “foreign” critics don’t have an informed opinion (well, that’s my polite translation of “moron” and “stupid”) because they don’t vote for your favourite album.
- So “local” critics should write only about “local” music. Really? Even in our global times where all kind of information are just a click away? Do you really think that a Spanish critic look to any kind of music through a flamenco lens?
- And finally, are you sure that only the non-English critics copy the others? Sadly all the lists finally are very similar at the end. A lot of styles are completely overlooked again and again (and I’m not talking about “local” styles) while everyone seems to like “some items they are told to do”. Are we all not being too benign with the (supposed) experimental side of Animal Collective while overlooking completely the real experimentalists?
Well that’s all for today. Now I’m going to do my Hindi compilation.
With love and affection from a (yours truly) Spanish moron.
No problem at all, tomas, it was not a question of winning. This forum is about discussing music and that’s OK. Every opinion has its place here. Thanks a lot for your comments.
Updated with fishpork, NME and Consequence of Sound. Thanks to Harold, Ned and otisredding.
Updated with NPR as well, Thanks to Snusmumrik and Harold.
Onion's A.V. Club & OOR included.
Seems like the real classics of the 00s are (at least according to critics):
Radiohead- Kid A (2000)
OutKast- Stankonia (2000)
The Strokes- Is This It (2001)
Jay-Z- The Blueprint (2001)
Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (2002)
Arcade Fire- Funeral (2004)
Sufjan Stevens- Illinois (2005)
LCD Soundsystem- Sound of Silver (2007)
Those are the only albums that make the top 25 for all 3 regional averages.
Interestingly enough, if Yankee Hotel Foxtrot hadn't been stalled due to record label problems, more than 50% of those albums would be from the first two years of the decade.
Harold has updated with Metromix Denver, Virgin Media and The Times, and deleted Fishpork (see the eligibility discussion).
Updated with eMusic, Laut and The Times (jazz & world top 10s). Thanks to Harold and whoever contributed.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand a new number one!
Absolutely dumbfounding. Is This It is great, but it doesn't quite have the high level of artistry that set Kid A and Funeral apart from the crowd. I can only hope we get some more indie-centric lists come in. The gap is small enough that some slight movement will alter the placements of the big three.
Oh how I hope Funeral maintains it's #1 position by the next update.
Kind of irritated how YHF can't break the top 3. In my eyes it's clearly superior to Is This It and Funeral, and just as good as Kid A.
Look at Franz Ferdinand creeping up the list. Number 14 now!
These are hectic days for Harold. Updated again with Dagsavisen and Intro.
Intro deleted since it was a readers' list.
Just to point out there's a typo in the spreadsheet, which is unevitable, considering all the work that's been put into it. Mariza's album is spelled "Fado Curvo", not "Fado Curva".
See it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fado_Curvo
And I'm Portuguese, so that's how I spotted it...
And it's a great job you guys have been doing!
Personally, I'm disappointed "Is This It" and to a lesser extent, "Funeral", are leading these lists. Not that they aren't good, but not good enough when compared to true masterpieces such as "Kid A" and "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot"; not to mention other masterworks such as "Ys", "Illinois", "Arular", "Person Pitch", "In Rainbows" and "Boy in da Corner" among others.
Music critics overall are still playing it too safe.
I agree completely affy18.
Is This It is a party album. There's nothing that unique or innovative about it. Funeral is deeply personal, but again, it's a little too "Been there done that" for me to be the #1 or #2 album of the decade.
I'm deeply disappointed that Ys isn't getting more acclaim. It's a masterpiece.
I don't want to knock "Is This It" for being a party album but if there are party albums that should be making more lists, I think it should be something like..."Since I Left You" or even "Discovery", both of which are arguably more challenging and just as enjoyable. Again, I don't want to put this and "Funeral" down; both are terrific records but I think that compared to other stuff that is arguably more forward-thinking and innovative, they come up considerably short.
And also, why is it that Amy Winehouse's "Back to Black" has become the de facto critically-acclaimed female album of the decade? Again, nothing wrong with it but is it really better than the output of Joanna Newsom's "Ys", PJ Harvey's "Stories from the City..." or "White Chalk", Björk's "Vespertine", Cat Power's "You are Free", Neko Case's "Fox Confessor Brings the Flood" and even Robyn's self-titled? I really don't get its dominance on these lists.
I'm just surprised and dismayed music critics in general have been so conventional and traditional with these lists. Hopefully the next few EOD lists bring a turnaround.
Update with Side 2-Nettavisen, the Guardian, and Q included. Thanks Harold!
so why wasnt this list included???? http://www.dailycal.org/article/107575/top_albums_of_the_decade
Isnt it eligible?? it seems find to me!
In case anyone's curious, the highest-ranked 2000s album on the new all-time top 3000 list that has yet to make a single appearance on an EOD is - by a considerably wide margin - #979, Franz Ferdinand's YOU COULD HAVE IT SO MUCH BETTER. Apparently EOD compilers are taking the album's title to heart.
Ugh. Stay in the top 10, Sound of Silver!
I'm impressed that Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is clinging onto the #4 spot so tightly. For a non-Radiohead, non-NME super hyped album, it's doing a-okay.
Updated with Daily Californian and Irish Times. Thanks Harold!
Harold has updated with FACT and State.
so are you guys gonna add entertainment weekly's best albums of the decade??
Entertainment Weekly, The Word and Rock's Back Pages have been added.
Thank you, great work again guys. Im now nitpicking, but shouldnt albums on RBP list sharing the same place take spot in the middle of the shared interval?
(i.e. all albums sharing position 101 - 135 get spot 118?) Just idea.
Spreadsheet updated with Rolling Stone and the RBP numbers. Thanks Harold!
Harold has also added Spinner.
Updated with NOW, Decibel, The Sunday Times and Sue, making the top 3 even closer! Thanks Harold!
Should these update thread be posted in the new critics' lists forum instead?
Is the VICE list being added, Harold?
Updated with The Boombox and Glide.
Is the date on the home page just not being updated?