Put a Pin on the Map View my Forum Guestmap
Free Guestmaps by Bravenet.com

The Old Acclaimed Music Forum

Go to the NEW FORUM

Music, music, music...
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Got it in the mail today. It's going to be on the net tomorrow, so I won't type up the whole list, but Kid A is the number 1 album and Crazy is the number 1 song. The album list is surprisingly good!

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

i just wanna know...is there any arctic monkeys, animal collective or panda bear on the list???

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

I hope Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was top 5.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Even though it doesn't have any merit to Acclaimed Music.net, here is Rolling Stone's Decade-End Readers' Poll:

SONGS
1. Green Day - Boulevard of Broken Dreams
2. Beyoncé - Single Ladies
3. U2 - Beautiful Day
4. Britney Spears - Toxic
5. Mariah Carey - We Belong Together
6. Kanye West - Stronger
7. My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade
8. Avril Lavigne - Complicated
9. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone
10. The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
11. Black Eyes Peas - I Gotta Feeling
12. Coldplay - Viva la Vida
13. Green Day - American Idiot
14. Christina Aguilera - Beautiful

ALBUMS
1. Green Day - American Idiot
2. Kanye West - Graduation
3. Radiohead - Kid A
4. Avril Lavigne - Let Go
5. Radiohead - In Rainbows
6. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
7. Britney Spears - Blackout
8. Kelly Clarkson - All I Ever Wanted
9. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
10. Lady Gaga - The Fame
11. Kelly Clarkson - Breakaway
12. Beyoncé - I Am...Sasha Fierce
13. Christina Aguilera - Stripped
14. My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
15. U2 - No Line on the Horizon
16. Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi
17. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
18. Coldplay - Viva la Vida
19. Bruce Springsteen - The Rising

ARTISTS
1. Green Day
2. Radiohead
3. U2
4. Coldplay
5. Black Eyed Peas
6. Justin Timberlake
7. Bruce Springsteen
8. Eminem
9. Jack White
10. Jay-Z
11. Kings of Leon
12. Fall Out Boy
13. Arcade Fire
14. M.I.A.
15. Wilco
16. Conor Oberst
17. Bob Dylan
18. Lil Wayne
19. My Morning Jacket
20. Beyoncé
21. Kelly Clarkson
22. My Chemical Romance
23. Kanye West

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Okay, top 10 albums:

1. Kid A
2. Is This It?
3. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
4. Blueprint
5. Elephant
6. Funeral
7. Marshall Mathers LP
8. Modern Times
9. Kala
10. College Dropout

Arctic Monkeys "Whatever...." was 41.

Lots of Springsteen and U2

No Animal Collective or Panda Bear. They have the best of 2009 in their too and MPP wasn't even in the top 10.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Any McCartney?

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Sound of Silver? Vespertine? Anniemal?

Sorry for sounding like a kid on Christmas Eve.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

joe
Okay, top 10 albums:

1. Kid A
2. Is This It?
3. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
4. Blueprint
5. Elephant
6. Funeral
7. Marshall Mathers LP
8. Modern Times
9. Kala
10. College Dropout

Arctic Monkeys "Whatever...." was 41.

Lots of Springsteen and U2

No Animal Collective or Panda Bear. They have the best of 2009 in their too and MPP wasn't even in the top 10.


oh my god, wtf!?! a surprisingly decent top 10? Kid A #1? Eminem/College Dropout in the top 10? Arctic Monkeys #41!?!?! high fives all-around, gentlemen. go rolling stone, who woulda thought? i'll just try to ignore the lack of animal collective and the abundance of springsteen/u2. that's to be expected.

I Gather...

that Her Madgesty didn't make the cut on either the albums or singles list. Phooey. Music and/or Confessions on a Dance Floor are worthy of more decade-end citations than what's been released thus far.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

I've gotta admit RS really brought it with that top 10. I doubt their readers will think the same way based on their picks...sheesh.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

My guess is that those were the only albums/songs they were allowed to vote for.

The Avril Lavene fan club is notorious for inflating votes, so that's probably why her album is so high in the readers poll.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Scott
I've gotta admit RS really brought it with that top 10. I doubt their readers will think the same way based on their picks...sheesh.


Yes, that's real life. The readers list is ridiculous, having this kind of readers it's understandable the usual lack of risk of the magazine, although their Top 10 this time is surprisingly good.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Chris
My guess is that those were the only albums/songs they were allowed to vote for.

The Avril Lavene fan club is notorious for inflating votes, so that's probably why her album is so high in the readers poll.


I remember back in 2003 when they did their best-ever reader's poll that the first 2 Weezer albums were ridiculously high.

Ohhh...

funny I said that about Madge- she has two songs appearing on the Songs list- fitting for her most acclaimed tracks of the decade. So, yay. :)


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248017/100_best_albums_of_the_decade/44

Albums of the Decade

1 | Radiohead: Kid A
2 | The Strokes: Is This It
3 | Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
4 | Jay-Z: The Blueprint
5 | The White Stripes: Elephant
6 | Arcade Fire: Funeral
7 | Eminem: The Marshal Mathers LP
8 | Bob Dylan: Modern Times9 | M.I.A.: Kala
10 | Kanye West: The College Dropout
11 | Bob Dylan: Love and Theft
12 | LCD Soundsystem: Sound of Silver
13 | U2: All That You Can't Leave Behind
14 | Jay-Z: The Black Album
15 | Bruce Springsteen: The Rising
16 | OutKast: Stankonia
17 | Beck: Sea Change
18 | MGMT: Oracular Spectacular
19 | Amy Winehouse: Back to Black
20 | The White Stripes: White Blood Cells
21 | Coldplay: A Rush of Blood to the Head
22 | Green Day: American Idiot
23 | D'Angelo: Voodoo
24 | Bruce Springsteen: Magic
25 | Radiohead: Amnesiac
26 | Cat Power: The Greatest
27 | The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
28 | Yeah Yeah Yeahs: Fever to Tell
29 | Sigur Rós: Ágaetis Byrjun
30 | Radiohead: In Rainbows
31 | My Morning Jacket: Z
32 | Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III
33 | Daft Punk: Discovery
34 | OutKast: Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
35 | PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
36 | U2: No Line on the Horizon
37 | 50 Cent: Get Rich or Die Tryin'
38 | Ryan Adams: Heartbreaker
39 | Kings of Leon: Aha Shake Heartbreak
40 | Kanye West: Late Registration
41 | Arctic Monkeys: Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
42 | Elliott Smith: Figure 8
43 | The Killers: Hot Fuss
44 | System of a Down: Toxicity
45 | Kanye West: Graduation
46 | Justin Timberlake: FutureSex/LoveSounds
47 | Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes
48 | TV on the Radio: Dear Science
49 | Fiona Apple: Extraordionary Machine
50 | Bright Eyes: I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
51 | Spoon: Kill the Moonlight
52 | M.I.A.: Arular
53 | Kings of Leon: Only By the Night
54 | Norah Jones: Come Away With Me
55 | Robert Plant and Alison Krauss: Raising Sand
56 | Vampire Weekend: Vampire Weekend
57 | Death Cab for Cutie: Transatlanticism
58 | Danger Mouse: The Grey Album
59 | Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights
60 | Phoenix: Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
61 | The Shins: Oh, Inverted World
62 | Johnny Cash: American III: Solitary Man
63 | Kanye West: 808s and Heartbreak
64 | Gillian Welch: Time the Revelator
65 | Manu Chao: Próxima Estación Esperanza
66 | Antony & the Johnsons: I Am a Bird Now
67 | Björk: Vespertine
68 | U2: How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
69 | Missy Elliott: Under Construction
70 | Sleater-Kinney: The Woods
71 | Bright Eyes: Lifted or the Story is in the Soil, Keep Your Eart to the Ground
72 | Franz Ferdinand: Franz Ferdinand
73 | Coldplay: Parachutes
74 | Red Hot Chili Peppers: Stadium Arcadium
75 | Arcade Fire: Neon Bible
76 | Sigur Rós: ()
77 | Yo La Tengo: And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out
78 | Sufjan Stevens: Come On, Feel The Illinoise
79 | The New Pornographers: Electric Version
80 | Kings of Leon: Youth and Young Manhood
81 | Ryan Adams: Gold
82 | Queens of the Stone Age: Rated R
83 | The Black Keys: Attack and Release
84 | Eminem: The Eminem Show
85 | Coldplay: Viva La Vida
86 | The Postal Service: Give Up
87 | Gnarls Barkley: St. Elsewhere
88 | Brian Wilson: Smile
89 | Radiohead: Hail to the Thief
90 | Amadou & Miriam: Dimanche a Bamako
91 | The Hives: Veni Vidi Vicious
92 | Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago
93 | Johnny Cash: Unearthed
94 | The Libertines: Up the Brackett
95 | Alicia Keys: Songs in A Minor
96 | The Streets: Original Pirate Material
97 | Wilco: Sky Blue Sky
98 | TV on the Radio: Return to Cookie Mountain
99 | The Hold Steady: Almost Killed Me
100 | Leonard Cohen: 10 New Songs

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248926/100_best_songs_of_the_decade/27

Singles of the Decade

1 | Gnarls Barkley — "Crazy"
2 | Jay-Z — "99 Problems"
3 | Beyoncé — "Crazy in Love"
4 | Outkast — "Hey Ya!"
5 | M.I.A. — "Paper Planes"
6 | The White Stripes — "Seven Nation Army"
7 | Yeah Yeah Yeahs — "Maps"
8 | Amy Winehouse — "Rehab"
9 | U2 — "Beautiful Day"
10 | Eminem — "Stan"
11 | MGMT — "Time to Pretend"
12 | Eminem — "Lose Yourself"
13 | 50 Cent — "In Da Club"
14 | Missy Elliott — "Get Ur Freak On"
15 | Johnny Cash — "Hurt"
16 | The Strokes — "Last Nite"
17 | Bob Dylan — "Mississippi"
18 | Kelly Clarkson — "Since U Been Gone"
19 | Kanye West — "Jesus Walks"
20 | Justin Timberlake — "Cry Me a River"
21 | OutKast — "B.O.B."
22 | Amerie — "1 Thing"
23 | Rihanna — "Umbrella"
24 | Radiohead — "Everything in Its Right Place"
25 | Missy Elliott — "Work It"
26 | Coldplay — "Clocks"
27 | The Postal Service — "Such Great Heights"
28 | Randy Newman — "A Few Words in Defense of Our Country"
29 | Kanye West — "Gold Digger"
30 | R. Kelly — "Ignition (Remix)"
31 | The Flaming Lips — "Do You Realize?"
32 | Franz Ferdinand — "Take Me Out"
33 | Daft Punk — "One More Time"
34 | Coldplay — "Yellow"
35 | Bruce Springsteen — "The Rising"
36 | U2 — "Moment of Surrender"
37 | LCD Soundsystem — "Losing My Edge"
38 | Gorillaz — "Clint Eastwood"
39 | Modest Mouse — "Float On"
40 | Kelis — "Milkshake"
41 | LCD Soundsystem — "All My Friends"
42 | Arcade Fire — "Wake Up"
43 | The Roots — "The Seed (2.0)"
44 | Britney Spears — "Toxic"
45 | Kylie Minogue — "Can't Get You Out of My Head"
46 | MGMT — "Kids"
47 | Green Day — "American Idiot"
48 | The Killers — "Mr. Brightside"
49 | The Walkmen — "The Rat"
50 | Beyoncé — "Single Ladies"
51 | D'Angelo — "Untitled (How Does It Feel)"
52 | Christina Aguilera — "Beautiful"
53 | The Rapture — "House of Jealous Lovers"
54 | Coldplay — "The Scientist"
55 | OutKast — "Ms. Jackson"
56 | Radiohead — "Idioteque"
57 | The Shins — "New Slang"
58 | The White Stripes — "Fell In Love With a Girl"
59 | The Strokes — "Hard to Explain"
60 | Beyoncé — "Irreplaceable"
61 | Jet — "Are You Gonna Be My Girl"
62 | Alicia Keys — "Fallin'"
63 | Lil Wayne — "A Milli"
64 | U2 — "Vertigo"
65 | Green Day — "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"
66 | Madonna — "Music"
67 | Wilco — "Jesus, Etc."
68 | Coldplay — "Viva La Vida"
69 | Santigold — "L.E.S. Artistes"
70 | Arctic Monkeys — "I Bet You Look Good on the Dance Floor"
71 | Justice — "D.A.N.C.E."
72 | Kings of Leon — "Use Somebody"
73 | Queens of the Stone Age — "No One Knows"
74 | TV on the Radio — "Wolf Like Me"
75 | Arcade Fire — "Rebellion (Lies)"
76 | Madonna — "Hung Up"
77 | Dixie Chicks — "Not Ready to Make Nice"
78 | LCD Soundsystem — "Daft Punk is Playing at My House"
79 | Robert Plant and Alison Krauss — "Gone Gone Gone"
80 | Phoenix — "1901"
81 | Pink — "Get The Party Started"
82 | Jay-Z — "Dirt Off Your Shoulder"
83 | The Gossip — "Standing in the Way of Control"
84 | The Clipse — "Grindin'"85 | The Dirty Projectors — "Stillness Is the Move"
86 | Aaliyah — "Try Again"
87 | The Knife — "Heartbeats"
88 | Jay-Z — "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)"
89 | Bright Eyes — "Lua"
90 | Midlake — "Roscoe"
91 | Bruce Springsteen — "My City of Ruins"
92 | Brad Paisley — "Alcohol"
93 | Snoop Dogg — "Drop It Like It's Hot"
94 | Radiohead — "Pyramid Song"
95 | Mary J. Blige — "Family Affair"
96 | Lady Gaga — "Poker Face"
97 | Fleet Foxes — "White Winter Hymnal"
98 | Amy Winehouse — "Back to Black"
99 | Gorillaz — "Feel Good Inc."
100 | Damian Marley — "Welcome to Jamrock"

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

On behalf of myself and Mr. Redding, JR, thank you for posting the lists. This is great. I'll have the album spreadsheet updated by the end of the day.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

It's nice to see that "Beautiful Day" is starting to get a little more recognition. Pleasantly surprised to see "Moment of Surrender" on the list. Not sure why No Line on the Horizon out-ranked How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb.

Also glad to see that "Stan" and "Lose Yourself" are also getting more attention.

I am disappointed that Amnesiac out-ranked In Rainbows, and that "Idioteque" and "Pyramid Song" yet again got some love over a more deserving "Reckoner."

Very surprised at how low Come On, Feel the Illinoise ranked on this list (#78!)

That's all I have to say for now.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Oh, one more thing.

2008 End of year list:
#1 - Beyonce - Single Ladies
#3 - MGMT - Time to Pretend

2000s End of Decade list:
#11 - MGMT - Time to Pretend
#50 - Beyonce - Single Ladies

Nice to see they got things in the right order this time.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

You know, Rolling Stone gets alot of hate on the internet in general because of its mainstreamyness. But these are some damn good lists. Maybe a little more Dylan and U2 than I would of liked, but whatever.

If anything...

RS has a nice mix of good mainstream (usually) and some lesser-known acts. I'm as much a music appreciater as the next guy, but I can't tell ya how many names I don't recognize on a lot of those indie lists and such.

Like it or not, Rolling Stone is one of the biggest and most influential music publications (like Q in the UK). Those are the two biggies on both sides of the pond.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

There are many great albums. And very nice to see Fiona Apple's Extraordinary Machine, so underrated, a truly "hidden" gem of this decade. It's a solid list with a nice mix of mainstream and indie, although some artists that are inside many other lists are missing, it's the best RS list i've seen in a long time.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

If someone would have told me that the only difference between the Rolling Stone and Pitchfork EOD lists would be Animal Collective, I might have laughed in their face.

Instead we get a pair of lists that are basically the pitchfork lists (a good thing) only without Animal Collective (a bad thing). Surprisingly good lists, much much better than the awful EOY lists Rolling Stone has been putting out this decade. I do have one problem though.....

Sufjan at #78 is a travesty.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

No quarrel from me about the exclusion of Animal Collective; I really like this list. No Boxer is a shame, but I knew it wasn't going to make it.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

VanillaFire1000
Chris
My guess is that those were the only albums/songs they were allowed to vote for.

The Avril Lavene fan club is notorious for inflating votes, so that's probably why her album is so high in the readers poll.


I remember back in 2003 when they did their best-ever reader's poll that the first 2 Weezer albums were ridiculously high.


The first two Weezer albums are ridiculously good. Especially Pinkerton :)

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Stephan
No quarrel from me about the exclusion of Animal Collective; I really like this list. No Boxer is a shame, but I knew it wasn't going to make it.


Yes, Boxer deserves to be there. Still need to pick up Alligator, though.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Modern Times, Magic, All That You Can't Leave Behind, those are some pretty decent records. I wouldn't call them the decade's finest, but the age of the artists who made them is no reason to leave them off.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

U2's output this decade has been dreadful. sure they manage to spit out a few half-decent, listenable songs now and again but those albums.......

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Michael
U2's output this decade has been dreadful. sure they manage to spit out a few half-decent, listenable songs now and again but those albums.......


I disagree. All That You Can't Leave Behind is an incredible album. I've not heard the other two, but to me, the Beatles produced great little pop songs. And I think that's exactly what ATYCLB is--an album where almost every song could be a single. That album has some of the best songs of the aughties.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

i have ATYCLB, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb and No line on the Horizon (my parents eat U2 up) and apart from the few actual singles i really can't listen to a single one of those albums.

But then again this is a complaint from someone who can hardly sit through Achtung Baby.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

ChrisF
Michael
U2's output this decade has been dreadful. sure they manage to spit out a few half-decent, listenable songs now and again but those albums.......


I disagree. All That You Can't Leave Behind is an incredible album. I've not heard the other two, but to me, the Beatles produced great little pop songs. And I think that's exactly what ATYCLB is--an album where almost every song could be a single. That album has some of the best songs of the aughties.

Mmm...I agree. I think ATYCLB is one of the best albums of the decade, and I'm kind of sad that it hasn't been getting more recognition from the end-of-decade lists. You are right though, it is filled with gems, any of which could have been singles--"Kite," "Peace on Earth," "In a Little While"--yet the ones that were released (er, most of them) rank among my favourite U2 tracks: "Beautiful Day," "Walk On," and "Stuck in a Moment." I can do without "Elevation" though.
4.5/5

No Line on the Horizon in my opinion is an album that is decent--a few good tunes on there (most notably, "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight," "Moment of Surrender," and the title track), an overall sound similar to their early '80s output, but also the sour Black Eyed Peas-worthy lyrics that end up ruining what could be a good song ("Get on Your Boots," "Unknown Caller"), reminisent of the Pop album. Chances are, with No Line on the Horizon (the album), you'll listen to it a few times, and never have much desire to listen to it again.
3/5

How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, like ATYCLB, is filled with songs, all of which could have worked as singles. However, after multiple repeat listenings of the album, I got a little sick of it, and sometimes the thought of listening to "Vertigo" makes me cringe. With that being said, there aren't many albums out there that you won't get sick of if you have them on constant rotation, and there must have been a good reason for me to want to listen to that album so much.
4/5

It seems as though everything about U2 is polarizing. Most people either love them or hate them. Just as common, if not more, are what I would call the ex-fans. Those who believe Achtung Baby was their last good album, and disregard everything that was released after that. I have also noticed that as much as they are passionate about The Joshua Tree, the ex-U2 fans are just as passionate about not listening to the new "garbage," so there's not much use in trying to convince them otherwise.

At least those of us who like U2's 2000s output can appreciate it.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

i love reading the comments on rolling stone's lists. it always makes for a good laugh.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Rolling Stone is fairly consistent. This list resembles the list you could excise from their 2003 list of the all-time 500 albums.

Of the albums that now appear in their EOD top ten, only one that had been recorded prior to that list being published - Yankee Foxtrot Hotel (2002) - was not included in the 2003 list.

There were only 13 albums (by my count) from the decade that made the 2003 RS500 list. Of those, the highest ranked album was The Marshall Mathers LP (7th in the EOD list) at 302. The lowest was Voodoo, 488th.

Two of the 13 albums, Rock Steady (No Doubt) and Music (Madonna), do not show up in the the RS EOD list. Of the other 11, only The Eminem Show is ranked lower than 23rd in the RS EOD list. So again, 6 years later, Rolling Stone is fairly consistent.

Their EOD ranking of Love and Theft, Sea Change, and Voodoo (all in the 2003 RS500), are probably too high, but not completely unreasonable.

You would have to think that Rolling Stone will issue a revision to their top 500 albums sometime soon time soon (2010 ?). As little as things seem to change at RS, it's doubtful that albums that fall below Voodoo in their EOD list will make the cut for their next all-time 500 list.

If that's true, the next RS all-time list would include only 23 albums from the 2000s. If that sounds absurd, consider that acclaimed music lists only 46 albums from the 2000s as having a rank of 500 or better.

In either case, it's not a particularly distinguished decade - musically speaking.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

oedixideo
In either case, it's not a particularly distinguished decade - musically speaking.

Even though I do think there was a lot of great music produced in the 2000s, I think it says quite a lot when the album that is being hailed as the best of the decade isn't even the best of the artist's catalog.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Daniel
oedixideo
In either case, it's not a particularly distinguished decade - musically speaking.

Even though I do think there was a lot of great music produced in the 2000s, I think it says quite a lot when the album that is being hailed as the best of the decade isn't even the best of the artist's catalog.

YOu think that Neon Bible is better than Funeral?

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

tomas
Daniel
oedixideo
In either case, it's not a particularly distinguished decade - musically speaking.

Even though I do think there was a lot of great music produced in the 2000s, I think it says quite a lot when the album that is being hailed as the best of the decade isn't even the best of the artist's catalog.

YOu think that Neon Bible is better than Funeral?

Hahha...actually, yes I do.
But I was referring to what Rolling Stone magazine is hailing as the album of the decade.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

I agree Amnesiac is better.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Henrik
I agree Amnesiac is better.

Amnesiac is actually my least favourite Radiohead album.
Hahha.

What I mean is that I think it's funny that Kid A is being considered the best album of the decade when OK Computer is generally considered to be their best album. That either says a lot about the greatness of Radiohead, or the lack of greatness of music in general from the 2000s.

For the record, my favourite Radiohead album is The Bends, followed by In Rainbows.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

I'm really pleasantly surprised by both lists. The singles list, especially, has virtually all of what I would consider 'essential' singles from this decade. Their love for LCD Soundsystem shocked me.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Fascinating. RS has the same top four (not in the same order) as Harold’s consensus list.

As everyone has said, this is, especially in the upper reaches, a very solid list. As expected, the farther down you go, the more bones are thrown, not just to the 60-year-old commodities brokers with four-month-old copies of the magazine aligned with the feng shui of their reception areas (Bruce, Dylan, U2, Plant & Krauss, Leonard Cohen), but to the skate-punks shoplifting their copies from the Gas-n-Sip in Passaic, New Jersey (Green Day, Kings of Leon, 50 Cent, the Killers).

By the way, with respect, I don’t buy your argument, Daniel (it’s a weak decade since the top album is only Radiohead’s second best). We are talking about Radiohead here…and I’m not at all convinced that Kid A’s not their best album. (BTW, I’m impressed that RS took Amnesiac ahead of In Rainbows…I don’t agree, but Amnesiac is seriously underrated.)

In any case, every decade, from the seventies on, has seemed weak until we’ve gained some distance from it.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

The songs list is really solid, better than the albums by a long shot IMO.

And I really should have done the RS odds, if only that I was going to pick The Blueprint for highest rap album (and it would've fallen in the Other category). Shoulda coulda woulda...

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

schleuse
In any case, every decade, from the seventies on, has seemed weak until we’ve gained some distance from it.


I wonder about that.

Over time, the critic base must be younger and younger relative to the music in an all-time list. To date, this has not caused a wholesale rewriting of the consensus all-time list.

If the next decade's music is derivative of the music of the 2000s (or any particular decade), should that elevate the status of the predecessor recordings? If it isn't?

I suppose I need to disagree with you about the music from the 70s being underacclaimed in its time. It's most of what I listened to from about 1970 forward, and still do. If anything, what followed (1980s) cemented in my mind that music was in decline. With all due respect to those of you who love the music from the last 3 decades, most of it queers my ear.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

oedixideo
Rolling Stone is fairly consistent. This list resembles the list you could excise from their 2003 list of the all-time 500 albums.

Of the albums that now appear in their EOD top ten, only one that had been recorded prior to that list being published - Yankee Foxtrot Hotel (2002) - was not included in the 2003 list.

There were only 13 albums (by my count) from the decade that made the 2003 RS500 list. Of those, the highest ranked album was The Marshall Mathers LP (7th in the EOD list) at 302. The lowest was Voodoo, 488th.

Two of the 13 albums, Rock Steady (No Doubt) and Music (Madonna), do not show up in the the RS EOD list. Of the other 11, only The Eminem Show is ranked lower than 23rd in the RS EOD list. So again, 6 years later, Rolling Stone is fairly consistent.

Their EOD ranking of Love and Theft, Sea Change, and Voodoo (all in the 2003 RS500), are probably too high, but not completely unreasonable.

You would have to think that Rolling Stone will issue a revision to their top 500 albums sometime soon time soon (2010 ?). As little as things seem to change at RS, it's doubtful that albums that fall below Voodoo in their EOD list will make the cut for their next all-time 500 list.

If that's true, the next RS all-time list would include only 23 albums from the 2000s. If that sounds absurd, consider that acclaimed music lists only 46 albums from the 2000s as having a rank of 500 or better.

In either case, it's not a particularly distinguished decade - musically speaking.


I think the 500 Greatest of All Time was voted on by artists and music industry people, so it's really not an apples to apples comparison to compare the two lists.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

In response to those talking about the RS 500, and lack of 2000's albums. And the lack of good music this decade(which I disagree about, although, obviously the 60's and 70's make this decade look pretty weak).


Music is changing. Rock And Roll is dying, naturally. Rock and roll was a short burst of energy, and was bound to die. The album as an art form is dying. Slowly but surely. Within the next 30 years I would be surprised if there are any bands comparable to the rock bands still around today. As in, guitar based. Culture changes. It's something undesirable to us, who love rock music and the album as an art form. But it just does. Look at classical music. No one listens to that shit anymore. It's still there. And a minority still listens to it. But it's more in historical context. Barring band nerds of course, who mostly prefer rock music( I was a band nerd, most my friends were band nerds, but still listen to classic compositions.

We're going to continue seeing a major shift in terms of musical culture. Mostly because of the major shift in the culture as a whole, with the advent of the internet.As already seen this decade with the rapid decline of the record companies and the rapid ascent of internet downloading. Singles are going to continue taking over. Even Radiohead has talked about the death of the album, and they're the best album band in the world currently.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

ChrisF


I think the 500 Greatest of All Time was voted on by artists and music industry people, so it's really not an apples to apples comparison to compare the two lists.


So was this list. They have some of the hand-written ballots on the site.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Bill
Look at classical music. No one listens to that shit anymore. It's still there. And a minority still listens to it. But it's more in historical context.


Ahem.

Voting...

the top 200 albums did include artists and industry people, but also RS staffers. And the same went for these lists- here's the link to see the voting methodology:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248926/100_best_songs_of_the_decade/26

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Bill


Music is changing. Rock And Roll is dying, naturally. Rock and roll was a short burst of energy, and was bound to die. The album as an art form is dying. Slowly but surely. Within the next 30 years I would be surprised if there are any bands comparable to the rock bands still around today. As in, guitar based. Culture changes. It's something undesirable to us, who love rock music and the album as an art form. But it just does. Look at classical music. No one listens to that shit anymore. It's still there. And a minority still listens to it. But it's more in historical context. Barring band nerds of course, who mostly prefer rock music( I was a band nerd, most my friends were band nerds, but still listen to classic compositions.

We're going to continue seeing a major shift in terms of musical culture. Mostly because of the major shift in the culture as a whole, with the advent of the internet.As already seen this decade with the rapid decline of the record companies and the rapid ascent of internet downloading. Singles are going to continue taking over. Even Radiohead has talked about the death of the album, and they're the best album band in the world currently.


Where's your evidence of this? It seems to be an opinion stated as a fact.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

VanillaFire1000
ChrisF


I think the 500 Greatest of All Time was voted on by artists and music industry people, so it's really not an apples to apples comparison to compare the two lists.


So was this list. They have some of the hand-written ballots on the site.


Oh, well then no wonder it's good!

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

The handwritten ballots are endlessly fascinating! Also, all four Kings of Leon voted. I wonder if that had anything to do with the results? I haven't gotten through all the individual lists yet, so I don't know if KOL lists are included.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

ChrisF
The handwritten ballots are endlessly fascinating! Also, all four Kings of Leon voted. I wonder if that had anything to do with the results? I haven't gotten through all the individual lists yet, so I don't know if KOL lists are included.


Who would have thought that Kirk Hammett is such a big fan of Kid A? Or that Tom Morello loves Neon Bible? More so than the music makers, I found The Rolling Stone staff's lists interesting; they seemed to break pretty hard for Kid A and in particular, Sound of Silver.

All four Kings of Leon voted, and coincidence or not, there were more Kings of Leon albums than White Stripes albums.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

In their website, RS mention having a 10 top albums and songs of 2009. Can anyone find this because I can't.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

SR
ChrisF
The handwritten ballots are endlessly fascinating! Also, all four Kings of Leon voted. I wonder if that had anything to do with the results? I haven't gotten through all the individual lists yet, so I don't know if KOL lists are included.


Who would have thought that Kirk Hammett is such a big fan of Kid A? Or that Tom Morello loves Neon Bible? More so than the music makers, I found The Rolling Stone staff's lists interesting; they seemed to break pretty hard for Kid A and in particular, Sound of Silver.

All four Kings of Leon voted, and coincidence or not, there were more Kings of Leon albums than White Stripes albums.


Really? I find the music makers' lists much more interesting. We know what the critics like already. Why wouldn't they include every single ballot? What would be their reason not to?

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Why are we calling them music makers? Can't we just call them musicians?

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

The magazine has top 10 albums and top 20 songs, and there's a refer that says online you can find their top 25 albums and 50 songs of the year, but the link seems to be missing.
I don't have the magazine in front of me right now, but going from memory the albums are:
1) U2
2) Springsteen
3) Phoenix
4) Dirty Projectors
5) Green Day
6) Jay-Z
7) Neko Case
8) The XX
9) The Dream
10) Sonic Youth

Don't quote me on this.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

Rocky Raccoon
Don't quote me on this.


Okay. We won't.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

If anyone has the complete Rolling Stone album list for 2009, I'd be very interested in seeing it. And while I don't personally care about the songs list, it will also be needed at some point to add to the database.

Thank you in advance to whoever posts it.

Re: Rolling Stone Top 50 albums and songs

I've only got the top 10. The full list is still nowhere to be found on the website.

10) Sonic Youth - The Eternal
09) The xx - xx
08) The Dream - Love vs Money
07) Neko Case - Middle Cyclone
06) Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca
05) Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown
04) Jay Z - The Blueprint 3
03) Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
02) Bruce Springsteen - Working on a Dream
01) U2 - No Line on the Horizon