is here.

Shockingly, The Beatles are still the #1 artist.

Very Excited for the Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

(Crazy in Love appears twice in the 2000s decade list)

All hail Henrik, king of Acclaimed Music!!!

And many thanks to anyone who's helped him out. I'm very happy with the 00s list, although before I say more I'm going to want to comb through every detail of the site.

Good job Henrik!

Wow... Radiohead in the top 5 artists of all time for albums now!


Wilco took a huge hit I'm sad to say. They're down to one album in the top 500.

Jaw, meet floor. Awesome.

Oh, no! I saw this error and found what I thought was the reason. I was so sure I had fixed it so I didn't check that it was solved before I created all the webpages.

Well, I will look into it again. All the pages (basically every page for artists with songs on AM) should be corrected within a couple of days.

A few things:

Franz will continue to take a tumble I reckon.

Was Elephant in the top 100 overall before? What made it fall out?

I feel that in the wake of the decade round-up, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is getting unfairly sidelined for Stankonia by lists that focus primarily on one album per (non-Radiohead) artist. Shame, that, it's brilliant.

I'm surprised Flaming Lips are still above Interpol for 2002.

I'm scanning for stuff in moderate that's no longer eligable for moderate.

Shockingly, Aeroplane still qualifies at #512.

#473 Elliot Smith - Either/Or
#471 The National - Boxer
#456 Depeche Mode - Violator
#444 The Knife - Silent Shout

Also:

Bridgitte Fontaine - Comme A La Radio moves all the way up to #1549 from the 2900s.
Flaming Lips - Transmissions From The Satellite Heart falls off.
They Might Be Giants - Flood falls off.

I'm curious to see how this update sets Harold back.

I'm very happy to see Fiona Apple - When The Pawn jump into the top 3000, and I'm surprised to see Tidal jump even higher.

<3 thank you henrik!!!

The ones that have moved up:
#309 Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire de Melody Nelson
#370 Primal Scream - Xtrmntr
#392 Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters
#414 Panda Bear - Person Pitch
#421 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
#428 Madonna - Ray of Light
#429 Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
#444 The Knife - Silent Shout
#454 The Avalanches - Since I Left You
#455 Kraftwerk - Computerwelt
#456 Depeche Mode - Violator
#457 Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
#458 The Clash - Sandinista!
#464 The Congos - Heart of the Congos
#471 The National - Boxer
#473 Elliott Smith - Either/Or
#474 The Cure - Pornography
#476 Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die
#479 Burial - Untrue
#494 Neu! - Neu!
#497 Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
#498 Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
#500 TLC - CrazySexyCool

The ones that have fallen off are too many to mention...

Hooray!
Kid A in top 3 of the decade and Funeral beats Is This It. Wow.
Grace by Jeff Buckley is also now in top 10 of its decade and DJ Shadow too. Very very interesting lists...

So, which ones have moved down to the 501-3000 group?

#504 Radiohead - Amnesiac
#510 Kanye West - Late Registration
#511 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
#515 Basement Jaxx - Remedy
#516 Björk - Vespertine
#519 The La's - The La's
#520 The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
#521 The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
#522 Radiohead - Hail to the Thief
#523 Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
#525 Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Boulevard
#526 Neil Young and Crazy Horse - Ragged Glory
#535 Coldplay - Parachutes
#536 Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
#537 Ornette Coleman - Free Jazz
#542 Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers - Damn the Torpedoes
#546 Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
#553 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus
#554 Little Feat - Sailin' Shoes
#560 Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby
#561 Roni Size / Reprazent - New Forms
#566 Bob Dylan - Modern Times
#585 The Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free
#592 The Quintet - Jazz at Massey Hall/The Greatest Jazz Concert Ever
#593 Wilco - Summerteeth
#599 Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
#600 Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere
#604 Traffic - Mr. Fantasy

That seems strange- it's doing pretty well in the decade lists so far!

:'(

Such an underappreciated album. Suffers from coming out being Wilco became a hype machine with YHF, but it's every bit as good as that album.

Well, it only went down from 497 to 516 and there are a lot of non-EOD lists that have been added as well. I suppose Vespertine didn't appear in too many of them.

Wow, wow, wow. This is far too much excitment for a Sunday night, some of us have work in the morning

I hope there aren't to many fans of 10cc The Original Soundtrack out there. Its fall from 1930 to oblivion is the most spectacular I,ve seen so far.

Henrik, thank you so much for this update. Your dedication to this wonderful site is nothing short of amazing.

Just checking to confirm that no mistake was made in listing Bon Iver & MGMT as 2007 instead of 2008.

Both were released in late 2007. MGMT's album was released online in late December 2007 if my memory serves me.

Seeing Blur go down a little bit made me sad. On the other hand, having them slide right in between Sonic Youth and Joy Division for the overall artist rankings is flattering.

First of all great update Henrik!
Now here for the one error I spotted....

artist number 244 is The Original Soundtrack, my question is- should this really be considered as its own "artist" worthy of a placement on the artists lists?

As you might have guessed, I've been offline for a little while. Allow me to join in the great chorus of YYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

You know, I had a feeling from Henrik's somewhat dispassionate "I have nothing to add..." the other day that he had something up his sleeve. Very, very glad my instincts were correct.

I do not have time right now to start plowing through the update, but rest assured I will post a "Project 3000" revision soon.

Thanks, Henrik!

Thank you very much, Henrik

I do not understand:

the rise of Grace by Jeff Buckley. I hate that album and as Mr. Buckley sings

declining Screamadelica and Surfer Rosa: two of the most influential albums of the past 20 years

The fall of Elvis Costello with multiple discs, not only i don't understand but I'm going to bed very worried and about to criyng

OK Computer that has overtaken Astral Weeks: it's a sin. OK Comuter overcoming ziggy stardust: its's two sins

So. Can we get a list of those that have moved into the Top 3000 and those that have fallen out? I'm sure that's what many of us are concerned with!

Was this just an albums updates? Some songs have changed position, but no new song lists were added as far as I can tell.

Funeral is way too high...

I know it's the big hyped album of the 00s...but Higher than Daydream Nation? Higher than any Elvis Costello album?

same argument... except for Is this it?

Is This It is too high too! I really don't think either is a double digit album. Both should be 100-150 imo.

Yes.

Is there a smiley for head exploding? This is too much to take with the albums and 70s polls going on. Thanks Henrik!

OK. Here are the new albums in the top 3000.

#1010 Noir Désir - Tostaky
#1063 Derrick May - Innovator: Soundtrack for the Tenth Planet / Innovator [1997]
#1197 João Gilberto - Chega De Saudade
#1247 Muse - Origin of Symmetry
#1380 Nina Hagen Band - Nina Hagen Band
#1459 Gil Scott-Heron - Pieces of a Man
#1464 Various Artists - Tropicália ou Panis et Circencis
#1490 Veneno - Veneno
#1555 Os Novos Baianos - Acabou Chorare
#1563 Jorge Ben - Samba Esquema Novo
#1569 Serge Gainsbourg - L'homme à tête de chou
#1572 Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
#1623 Danger Mouse - The Grey Album
#1638 Tom Zé - Estudando O Samba
#1639 Alain Bashung - Fantaisie Militaire
#1715 Secos & Molhados - Secos & Molhados
#1738 Shuggie Otis - Inspiration Information
#1748 Joan Manuel Serrat - Mediterráneo
#1765 Alain Bashung - Play Blessures
#1779 Camarón - La leyenda del tiempo
#1787 Pata Negra - Blues de la frontera
#1794 Caetano Veloso - Transa
#1819 Billie Holiday - Lady Sings the Blues
#1831 Pierre Henry & Michel Colombier - Messe Pour Le Temps Present
#1859 Suzanne Vega - Solitude Standing
#1860 J.J. Cale - Naturally
#1896 Serge Gainsbourg - Aux armes et caetera
#1949 The Flatlanders - More a Legend Than a Band
#1953 Elis Regina & Antonio Carlos Jobim - Elis & Tom
#1965 Serge Gainsbourg - Initials B. B.
#1981 Orchestra Baobab - Specialist in All Styles
#2005 Mahmoud Ahmed - Eré Méla Méla/Ethiopiques 7
#2038 Gal Costa - Fa-Tal - Gal a Todo Vapor
#2041 Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report
#2049 Salif Keita - Moffou
#2084 Jorge Ben - A Tábua de Esmeralda
#2092 Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun
#2105 Pearl Jam - Yield
#2110 Konono No. 1 - Congotronics
#2116 Vainica Doble - Heliotropo
#2170 Air - Air Lore
#2173 Jeff Buckley - Sketches for My Sweetheart the Drunk
#2177 Karen Dalton - It's So Hard to Tell You Who's Going to Love You the Best
#2184 Moacir Santos - Coisas
#2191 The Stranglers - The Raven
#2204 Max Romeo & The Upsetters - War ina Babylon
#2208 Noir Désir - Des Visages des Figures
#2215 Fiona Apple - Tidal
#2236 PFM - Storia di un Minuto
#2237 Steppenwolf - Steppenwolf
#2250 RJD2 - Deadringer
#2275 The Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle
#2276 Billie Holiday - Songs for Distingué Lovers
#2284 Téléphone - Un autre monde
#2307 Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
#2309 Blink-182 - Enema of the State
#2315 Chico Science & Nacao Zumbi - Afrociberdelia
#2317 The Guess Who - American Woman
#2323 Moondog - Moondog
#2328 Garbage - Version 2.0
#2332 J.J. Cale - Troubadour
#2336 Area - Arbeit macht frei
#2344 Gabinete Caligari - Cuatro rosas
#2350 Violent Femmes - Hallowed Ground
#2373 Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
#2374 Café Tacuba - Cuatro Caminos
#2382 Kelis - Kaleidoscope
#2388 Scorpions - Lovedrive
#2406 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Wave
#2411 Donny Hathaway - Everything Is Everything
#2426 Black Star - Mos Def & Talib Kweli Are Black Star
#2431 Alaska y Los Pegamoides - Grandes éxitos
#2434 Alaska y Dinarama - Deseo carnal
#2436 Tim Buckley - Dream Letter: Live in London 1968
#2439 Sandy Denny - Sandy
#2440 Tubeway Army - Replicas
#2444 Marquis de Sade - Rue De Siam
#2448 Ali Farka Touré - The River
#2468 The Tragically Hip - Up to Here
#2470 The House of Love - The House of Love
#2474 Rheostatics - Whale Music
#2476 Mastodon - Leviathan
#2477 Queen - A Day at the Races
#2480 Vitalic - OK Cowboy
#2483 A.R.Kane - 69
#2491 Spank Rock - YOYOYOYOYO
#2495 Os Mutantes - Mutantes
#2498 Herman Brood & His Wild Romance - Shpritsz
#2518 Sloan - Twice Removed
#2525 Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing
#2530 Robyn - Robyn
#2531 Elvis Costello - Spike
#2535 Blue Rodeo - Five Days in July
#2544 Stars Of The Lid - And Their Refinement Of The Decline
#2550 Fiona Apple - When the Pawn...
#2551 João Gilberto - João Gilberto
#2555 Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination
#2556 Ben Webster - Ben Webster and Associates
#2560 The Pretty Things - Get the Picture?
#2563 Wipers - Youth of America
#2566 Squarepusher - Feed Me Weird Things
#2583 Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
#2588 Dixie Chicks - Wide Open Spaces
#2591 Bérurier Noir - Concerto pour detraques
#2593 Ani DiFranco - Dilate
#2601 The Beach Boys - Surfin' USA
#2606 Geoffrey Oryema - Exile
#2611 Radio Futura - La canción de Juan Perro
#2612 Art Blakey - The Jazz Messengers
#2616 Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
#2621 Herb Alpert - Whipped Cream and Other Delights
#2625 Gotan Project - La revancha del tango
#2635 Angelo Badalamenti - Twin Peaks Soundtrack
#2637 Francoise Hardy - Comment te dire adieu?
#2641 The Undertones - Positive Touch
#2643 New Bomb Turks - !!Destroy-Oh-Boy!!
#2648 Slipknot - Iowa
#2654 Francesco Guccini - Radici
#2655 Oasis - Be Here Now
#2658 Michael Jackson - Dangerous
#2661 Ben Harper - Welcome to the Cruel World
#2665 Noir Désir - Veuillez rendre l'ame (a qui elle appartient)
#2666 Chico Science & Nacao Zumbi - Da Lama ao caos
#2670 Bob Marley and The Wailers - Babylon by Bus
#2671 Marvin Gaye - Trouble Man
#2675 Prince & The New Power Generation - Diamonds and Pearls
#2676 Gilberto Gil / Jorge Ben - Ogum Xangô/Gil & Jorge
#2679 En Vogue - Funky Divas
#2687 Fatboy Slim - Better Living Through Chemistry
#2688 Toumani Diabate with Ballake Sissoko - New Ancient Strings
#2690 Leo Kottke - 6 & 12 String Guitar
#2699 Madonna - Confessions on a Dance Floor
#2707 Bee Gees - Odessa
#2714 The Tragically Hip - Road Apples
#2715 The Blood Brothers - ...Burn, Piano Island, Burn
#2730 Bob Dylan - Slow Train Coming
#2747 James - Stutter
#2750 The Associates - Fourth Drawer Down
#2751 Siouxsie and The Banshees - A Kiss in the Dreamhouse
#2754 Scorpions - Blackout
#2757 Ten Years After - Ssssh
#2758 Sisa - Qualsevol nit pot sortir el sol
#2760 Junior Murvin - Police & Thieves
#2761 Air - The Virgin Suicides
#2766 Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
#2770 Brygada Kryzys - Brygada Kryzys
#2775 Billy Joel - 52nd Street
#2776 Fela Ransome Kuti & Africa 70 - Expensive Shit
#2779 Public Image Ltd. - Flowers of Romance
#2781 Radio Futura - La ley del desierto, La ley del mar
#2783 Kula Shaker - K
#2784 Lucio Dalla - Lucio Dalla
#2785 The Bangles - Different Light
#2788 Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Architecture & Morality
#2789 Broadcast - The Noise Made by People
#2791 Liars - Liars
#2797 Sting - Ten Summoner's Tales
#2801 Duane Eddy - Have 'Twangy' Guitar Will Travel
#2802 Fela - Original Sufferhead
#2810 Art Ensemble of Chicago - Nice Guys
#2815 Godflesh - Streetcleaner
#2819 Randy Newman - Randy Newman
#2820 dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
#2828 Julie Driscoll with Brian Auger & The Trinity - Streetnoise
#2831 Blondie - Plastic Letters
#2833 Taj Mahal - The Natch'l Blues
#2834 Luciano - Where There Is Life
#2838 The Walkmen - Bows + Arrows
#2841 Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - En Concert à Paris
#2842 Air - 10,000 Hz Legend
#2845 Eric's Trip - Love Tara
#2850 John Lee Hooker - Mr. Lucky
#2853 Robert Palmer - Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley
#2855 The Fall - Extricate
#2857 Deep Purple - Fireball
#2859 Franco Battiato - La voce del padrone
#2862 Cream - Goodbye
#2864 The Future Sound of London - Accelerator
#2866 Burning Spear - Garvey's Ghost
#2868 Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa
#2872 Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning
#2873 Chris Isaak - Silvertone
#2875 Bad Religion - Against the Grain
#2877 Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
#2880 The Four Freshmen - Four Freshmen and 5 Trombones
#2888 Beyoncé - Dangerously in Love
#2890 Bill Fay - Bill Fay
#2899 Paul Simon - The Rhythm of the Saints
#2904 Ghostface Killah - Ironman
#2906 Girl Talk - Night Ripper
#2908 The Byrds - (Untitled)
#2909 Ray Charles - Ray Charles/Hallelujah, I Love Her So
#2910 The Game - The Documentary
#2914 Culture Club - Kissing to Be Clever
#2915 Johnny Cash - Johnny Cash with His Hot and Blue Guitar!
#2916 B.B. King - Indianola Mississippi Seeds
#2918 Procol Harum - Shine On Brightly
#2924 Charly Garcia - Clics Modernos
#2925 Van Halen - Van Halen II
#2934 Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
#2935 Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising
#2937 Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Not Fragile
#2938 Horace Andy - In the Light
#2939 Mano Negra - Patchanka
#2951 Jamiroquai - Emergency on Planet Earth
#2956 Eels - Electro-Shock Blues
#2959 Green on Red - Here Come the Snakes
#2963 Silver Apples - Silver Apples
#2968 Jaco Pastorius - Jaco Pastorius
#2971 Van Morrison - Hymns to the Silence
#2972 Bebel Gilberto - Tanto Tempo
#2973 Charles Mingus - Changes One
#2979 Nilsson - Aerial Ballet
#2981 John Cougar Mellencamp - Uh-Huh
#2984 Henry Mancini - Breakfast at Tiffany's
#2985 No Doubt - Rock Steady
#2986 Iron Maiden - Killers
#2987 Graham Parker - The Mona Lisa's Sister
#2989 Cabaret Voltaire - Red Mecca
#2992 B.B. King - The Blues
#2994 UFO - Strangers in the Night
#2996 Sir Douglas Quintet - Mendocino
+Bon Iver, MGMT and all albums from 2008

No longer in the top 3000
10cc - The Original Soundtrack
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Albert Ayler - Nuits de la Fondation Maeght Vol. 1
Ali Akbar Khan - Legacy
Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness
Andrew Bird - Armchair Apocrypha
Ani DiFranco - Living in Clip
Annie Lennox - Diva
Arab Strap - Philophobia
Archie Shepp - The Magic of Ju-Ju
Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die
Aretha Franklin - Soul '69
Arlo Guthrie - Alice's Restaurant
Art Blakey - Mosaic
Art Blakey - Ugetsu/Thermo
Baaba Maal - Lam Toro
Barbra Streisand - Guilty
Bark Psychosis - Hex
Beck - Guero
Ben Webster - Ben Webster Meets Oscar Peterson
Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different
Bill Evans - Conversations with Myself
Björk - Volta
Black Box Recorder - The Facts of Life
Bloc Party - A Weekend in the City
Blue Mitchell - The Thing to Do
Bob Marley and The Wailers - Soul Rebels
Bob Newhart - The Button-Down Mind of Bob Newhart
Bobbie Gentry - Ode to Billie Joe
Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel
Bonzo Dog Band - The Doughnut in Granny's Greenhouse
Booker Ervin - The Freedom Book
Boredoms - Super AE
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs in Static Couture
Bread - Baby I'm-A Want You
Buck Owens and His Buckaroos - Carnegie Hall Concert
Buffy Sainte-Marie - Illuminations
Bukka White - The Legacy of the Blues
Café Tacvba - Revés/Yosoy
Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out Of This Country
Cannonball Adderley - In San Francisco
Cardinal - Cardinal
Carmen McRae - The Great American Songbook
Cat Stevens - Catch Bull at Four
Cecil Taylor - The World of Cecil Taylor/Air
Cee-Lo - Cee-Lo Green Is the Soul Machine
Charles Mingus - The Clown
Charlie Musselwhite - Stand Back! Here Comes Charlie Musselwhite's South Side Band
Charlie Rich - The Fabulous Charlie Rich
Chick Corea - Piano Improvisations, Vol. 2
Cibo Matto - Viva! La Woman
Clint Black - Killin' Time
Cocteau Twins - Head Over Heels
Codeine - Frigid Stars LP
Coldplay - X&Y
Comus - First Utterance
Constance Demby - Novus Magnificat: Through the Stargate
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Pendulum
Crowded House - Temple of Low Men
Danzig - Danzig
Daryl Hall and John Oates - Private Eyes
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Jazz Goes to College
Dave Edmunds - Tracks on Wax 4
Dead Can Dance - Aion
Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal
Death Cab for Cutie - Plans
DeLillos - Suser Avgårde
Dick Gaughan - Handful of Earth
Digable Planets - Reachin' (A New Refutation of Time and Space)
Don Byron - Tuskegee Experiments
Donna Summer - The Wanderer
Duke Ellington - New Orleans Suite
Duke Ellington - Newport 1958
DumDum Boys - Splitter Pine
Dusty Springfield - A Girl Called Dusty/Stay Awhile - I Only Want to Be with You
Dwight Yoakam - If There Was a Way
Earl Hines - Earl Hines Plays Duke Ellington
Earth, Wind & Fire - Gratitude
Eels - Blinking Lights and Other Revelations
Elbow - Cast of Thousands
Ella Fitzgerald - Ella Fitzgerald Sings the Harold Arlen Songbook
Ella Fitzgerald - Ella in Rome: The Birthday Concert
Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong - Ella and Louis Again
Elvis Costello & The Imposters - The Delivery Man
Emmylou Harris - Roses in the Snow
Evan Parker - Monoceros
Fairport Convention - What We Did On Our Holidays
Faith No More - King for a Day - Fool for a Lifetime
Fela Anikulapo Kuti - Shuffering & Shmiling
Frank Sinatra - No One Cares
Fred Astaire - The Astaire Story
Fred Neil - Bleecker & MacDougal
Freddie Hubbard - Breaking Point!
Freddie Hubbard - Goin' Up
Freddie Hubbard - Ready for Freddie
Gastr del Sol - Camoufleur
George Russell - Jazz in the Space Age
Gil Evans - Plays the Music of Jimi Hendrix
Grand Funk Railroad - We're an American Band
Grant Lee Buffalo - Mighty Joe Moon
Håkan Hellström - Känn ingen sorg för mig Göteborg
Harold Land - The Fox
Helen Humes - Songs I Like to Sing!
Herbert - Around the House
Hothouse Flowers - People
Hound Dog Taylor & The Houserockers - Beware of the Dog!
Hugh Hopper - 1984
Ike Quebec - Blue and Sentimental
I-Roy - Presenting I-Roy
Jackie McLean - Destination... Out!
James Cleveland and The Angelic Choir - Peace Be Still
James Talley - Got No Bread, No Milk, No Money, But We Sure Got a Lot of Love
Jellyfish - Bellybutton
Jill Scott - Beautifully Human: Words and Sounds Vol. 2
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - After Awhile
Jimmy Smith and Wes Mongomery - Jimmy & Wes: The Dynamic Duo
João Gilberto - Brazil's Brilliant/Gilberto and Jobim
Joe Jackson - I'm the Man
Joe Lovano - From the Soul
Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros - Streetcore
John Cale - Hobosapiens
John Coltrane - Live at the Village Vanguard Again!
John Coltrane and Paul Quinichette - Cattin' with Coltrane and Quinichette
John Fahey - Blind Joe Death
John Handy - Recorded Live at the Monterey Jazz Festival
John Handy & Ali Akbar Khan - Karuna Supreme
John Stewart - California Bloodlines
John Zorn - Spy Vs. Spy
Johnny Smith - Moonlight in Vermont
Julius Hemphill - Dogon A.D.
Justin Hinds & The Dominoes - Jezebel
Kaleidoscope (UK) - Tangerine Dream
Kenny Burrell - Ellington Is Forever, Vol. 1
Kid Rock - Devil Without a Cause
Kings of Convenience - Quiet Is the New Loud
Kings of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
LaVern Baker - Sings Bessie Smith
Lionel Hampton & Stan Getz - Hamp & Getz
Lonnie Mack - The Wham of that Memphis Man!
LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression
Lyle Lovett - Lyle Lovett
Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear
Max Roach - Max Roach + 4
Meat Beat Manifesto - Storm the Studio
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Memphis Slim - At the Gate of Horn
Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro
Miles Davis - Miles Davis All Star Sextet/Walkin'
Miles Davis - Pangaea
Miranda Lambert - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Mogwai - Mr. Beast
Monster Magnet - Powertrip
Monster Magnet - Spine of God
Morphine - Yes
Motorpsycho - Demon Box
Mott the Hoople - The Hoople
Mylo - Destroy Rock & Roll
Nanci Griffith - Other Voices, Other Rooms
Nanci Griffith - The Last of the True Believers
Natalie Cole - Inseparable
Neil Young - Comes a Time
Neil Young - Time Fades Away
Nelly - Country Grammar
Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood
Nic Jones - Penguin Eggs
Nina Simone - Wild Is the Wind
Nitin Sawhney - Beyond Skin
Ocean Colour Scene - Moseley Shoals
Ornette Coleman - The Art of the Improvisers
Oscar Peterson - Plays Count Basie
Otis Redding - Pain in My Heart
Oval - 94 Diskont
Pat Metheny - Offramp
Patrick Wolf - The Magic Position
Phil Ochs - Pleasures of the Harbor
Phil Woods - Musique du Bois
Plastikman - Musik
Prince - Controversy
Prince Paul - A Prince Among Thieves
R. Kelly - 12 Play
R.L. Burnside - A Ass Pocket of Whiskey
Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Bright Moments
Randy Newman - Trouble in Paradise
Raspberries - Starting Over
Reverend Gary Davis - Pure Religion & Bad Company
Robyn Hitchcock and The Egyptians - Fegmania!
Rod Stewart - A Night on the Town
Rollins Band - The End of Silence
Rosanne Cash - Interiors
Roy Eldridge - Little Jazz
Sam Rivers - Streams
Sarah Vaughan - After Hours
Sarah Vaughan - Duke Ellington Song Book One
Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel - Nail
Secret Machines - Now Here Is Nowhere
Sheila Jordan - Portrait of Sheila
Shelly Manne - The West Coast Sound
Shelly Manne and His Men - At the Manne-Hole, Vol. 1
Slade - Slade Alive!
Slade - Slayed?
Smog - Dongs of Sevotion
Smog - Julius Caesar
Smog - Wild Love
Sonny Rollins - Work Time
Spoon - Girls Can Tell
Stan Getz and J.J. Johnson - Stan Getz and J.J. Johnson at the Opera House
Starsailor - Love Is Here
Steve Earle - The Mountain
Sun Ra - Other Planes of There
Sun Ra and The Arkestra - Sound of Joy
Sun Ra Arkestra - Sunrise in Different Dimensions
Supergrass - Supergrass
Supertramp - Even in the Quietest Moments…
T-Bone Burnett - Proof Through the Night
Teenage Fanclub - Songs from Northern Britain
Television Personalities - …And Don't the Kids Just Love It
The Allman Brothers Band - Idlewild South
The Books - The Lemon of Pink
The Books - Thought for Food
The Cables - What Kind of World
The Cars - Candy-O
The Chameleons - Strange Times
The Chills - Kaleidoscope World
The Coral - Magic & Medicine
The Decemberists - Her Majesty
The Delgados - The Great Eastern
The Doobie Brothers - The Captain and Me
The Flaming Lips - Transmissions from the Satellite Heart
The Fugs - Tenderness Junction
The Fugs - The Fugs
The Golden Palominos - Visions of Excess
The Hives - Tyrannosaurus Hives
The Impressions - Keep On Pushing
The Jacksons - Destiny
The Jam - The Gift
The Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
The Marshall Tucker Band - Searchin' for a Rainbow
The Maytals - Monkey Man
The Modern Jazz Quartet - The Last Concert
The Nits - Ting
The Original Motion Picture Cast - The Wizard of Oz
The Pastels - Up for a Bit with The Pastels
The Posies - Frosting on the Beater
The Ramsey Lewis Trio - The In Crowd
The Robert Cray Band - Bad Influence
The Shamen - En-Tact
The Stylistics - The Stylistics
The Temptations - Meet The Temptations
The Third Eye Foundation - You Guys Kill Me
The Thrills - So Much for the City
The Time - What Time Is It?
The Verve - A Storm in Heaven
The Waterboys - A Pagan Place
They Might Be Giants - Flood
This Mortal Coil - Filigree and Shadow
Tina Brooks - True Blue
Tindersticks - Curtains
Tom Petty - Wildflowers
Tom Waits - Blood Money
Tony Toni Toné - Sons of Soul
Travis - The Invisible Band
Trouble Funk - Drop the Bomb
Tuxedomoon - Half Mute
Vince Guaraldi - A Charlie Brown Christmas
Was (Not Was) - What Up, Dog?
Wayne Shorter - Super Nova
Whiskeytown - Stranger's Almanac
White Zombie - Astro-Creep: 2000 - Songs of Love, Destruction and Other Synthetic Delusions of the Electric Head
Woody Shaw - Moontrane
Wynton Marsalis - Citi Movement
Wynton Marsalis - Live at Blues Alley

Henrik,
Just curious...why do the update now rather than wait for EOD and EOY lists that might come out after the end of the year?

HOLY FUCK AN UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome!!!!!!!

Whew. Now that I've calmed down:

FUNERAL IS 55!!!! AND #1 OF THE DECADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK COMPUTER IS UP TO 13!!!!
WHAT'S GOING ON: UP TO 6!!!!
BORN TO RUN IS UP TO 18!!!!
KID A IS TOP 100!!!!
RADIOHEAD IS TOP 10!!!! (!)

AND

HENRIK FRANZON IS KING OF THE MUSIC UNIVERSE!!!!

I'm taking the current 2000s rankings with a huge grain of salt because, in the near future, you will have 1) 2009 albums added, and 2) EOD lists entered in. The 2000s will look so different in the next update, just imagine.

Great job, and thanks again, Henrik!! And whoever helped!

Sean, judging by the way the lists are going I'd say the top 4 will stay EXACTLY the same. Elephant will tumble some more I imagine.

I'm more an indie rock guy than a rap guy, but I'd love to see Stankonia break top 5; it just seems unbalanced to not have a single rap album in the top 5 of a decade that was commercially defined by rap.

Any idea when the song list is gonna change?

Few things:
For me at least, the link to the best of the 2000s is not showing up with the new list.
And the 2008 album list doesn't have a link.

All I can say is that I am so grateful for this website. The jolt provided by this update is indeed great! I'll be sure to get the RYM links to you soon, Henrik.

Many many thanks to Henrik !

From now on I'll use the new top 3000 for comparisons in my AMF top 200 albums countdown !

Yeah, the 2000s' very top albums will be steady, but I can't wait for the huge jumps and drops in the 30-100 range. There will be many, I'm hoping, and expecting.

As for the new all-time rankings, I'm so glad Oasis is dropping. This trend will no doubt continue with future updates. The world is slowly righting itself. The economy will be fixed, and Oasis' albums will be out of the top 200.

Thanks a lot Henrik,

Seems like there had been a lot of French lists in the new update to help that many French albums reach the top 3000. I'm stunned that Tostaky is the highest entry, but really it is probably the most important French rock album of the past 30 years.

Glad to see some of my top 100 albums in the entry list (Yoyoyoyo, OK Cowboy and the Shape of Punk to Come deserved more acclaimed) but at the same time one of my top10 is out (In Case We die).

And of course, glad to see Either/Or reach at last the top 500 (and Elliott Smith the top 200), even though I was expected is self titled album to crack the AM3000.

Veneno, Joan Manule Serrat, Pata Negra, Camarón, Vainica Doble, Gabinet Caligari, Alaska y los Pegamoides, Alaska y Dinarama, Sisa, Radio Futura.


Spain has never managed to export their rock music. These great records have come into AM through lists of Spanish music magazines. It is a selection that reflects well the best thing that has made the Spanish pop-rock for the past 40 years.

Until recently, the only representation of Spanish music was Macarena: it's a horrible song.

Now everything is fine.

Thanks to Henrik: your idea to accept national music charts, entering among the best, these fantastic records.

Henrik, you’re awesome!

Obviously, it’s of major interest how releases of the last decade or so are doing. Some stuff happening with old favourites too, though:

Good to finally see what is easily Bob Dylan’s best album between 1976 and 1989 (possibly between 1976 and 1997!) enter the list.
And Graham Parker’s “Mona Lisa’s Sister” deserves to be there. Green on Red’s “Snakes” too.

And good old Lonnie Mack enters AM (for the first time?) ... ! Whooee!

Sad to say goodbye to two fine Neil Young albums, though. – And Grant Lee Buffalo’s “Mighty Joe Moon” leves too ... what the ...???

And T-Bone Burnett and Slade are now bubbling-under only, abum-wise. I’ll keep my copy of "Proof Through the Night", though ...

Fantastic work, Henrik. I hope somebody’s really paying you well for your day job!

Mostly because I don't know how possible it will be for me to update the site again next year, as we will have our second baby in the beginning of January. But also because you (and I, not least) have been waiting so long.

Note that the EOD lists that have been added to the spreadsheet so far are also included in the site update. But surely a lot will happen in the next update too.

Absolutely brilliant web site and amazing work from you guys for putting it all together. Still can't quite get my head round the fact that Steely Dan are not much higher in the all time ranking though ! Late 60's will never do justice for them, especially when artists such as The Police and The Ramones ( and many others ) not fit to lace the boots of the genius of Becker and Fagen, are ranked higher. How can the Sex Pistols be ranked higher than The Dan ? !! Unbelievable. Surely instead of rankings of individual albums it would be better just to ask music critics, musicians ( not the public in general who would put Leona Lewis and JLS at number one )those who actually know music and the industry inside out, who were their all time favourite artists ? Surely then there would be justice for the Dan who were consistently brilliant throughout their career ! The Sex Pistols made one album of any note ( the most overrated album of all time in my opinion ) and yet are ranked way up there. A complete joke.

Just noticed there is a double entry for 'The Basement Tapes' under 'The Band' artist page.

I noticed some year changes for several albums in the older "year" lists- for example, Getz/Gilberto moved from 1963 to 1964; Horace Silver's "Songs For My Father", Shorter's "Speak No Evil" and Andrew Hill's "Point of Departure" all shifted from 1964 to 1965. I'm curious as to whether these are corrections to the last list or if something else had changed.

These are corrections from a thorough comparison with RYM. I have a lot to thank Andre for this.

I'm so excited...this is the first update of AM I've been around for! Thanks so much to Henrik and everyone else who worked on making this possible.

As for the new list, I tend to agree with most of the changes. Funeral is now rightfully the number 1 record of the decade and should crack top 50 next update, and I'm really happy to see London Calling pass Never Mind the Bullocks to move into the top 10.

I have two questions, though: Does anybody have the artist rankings pre-update? I can't really tell what's changed except for Radiohead moving into the top ten. And will the song list be updated too in the near future?

It was reported as an error that there was no entry for this album under The Band. I guess I corrected it twice...

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1948-09art.htm

Just a note on the list of albums that have fallen out of the top 3000: as I noted in a previous thread prior to the update, Sonny Rollins' NIGHT AT THE VILLAGE VANGUARD, VOL. 2 has been removed from the database entirely, almost certainly because the two volumes are never considered separately anymore (particularly since the combined CD reissue).

Well, you can check out the album artists list which has the Pistols exactly twice as far from the top as Steely Dan:
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1948-09arta.htm

Personally, I'm happy that the site is primarily about actual music on actual albums or songs.

I was offline this weekend, so let me add to the chorus of thanks, Henrik.

Random impressions upon a very fast scan of the new lists (and this thread)…

Good news: PIL and Blondie each got a new album in the top 3000. Radiohead’s now in the top ten artists. Funeral is a very deserving #1 album for the oh-oh’s. And Pete Evans is still testifying on behalf of the Dan!

Bad news: Lyle Lovett s/t falls out of the top 3000. FAIL.

Mixed news: Like Sean Pak, I do think Oasis was too highly ranked before…however, the wrong album is dropping for them.

***

Finally, I want to commemorate the loss of the most bizarre and out-of-place album in the previous list—we have lost Bob Newhart’s Best of the Button-Down Mind. It never really should have been there, but I’m fond of quirks that result from the system.

I LOVE Bob Newhart’s deadpan standup—my favorite bit is his version of the Kruschev/Eisenhower summit (yes). But it was so strange that he had the lone comedy album. I can think of several more likely candidates—Cosby, Python, Carlin, Bruce, Pryor.

So long, Bob.

I figured as much after I wrote that. Thanks for the site and for all your work Henrik and congrats on the baby!

Thanks for the update Henrik !!!

I'm glad that Kid A is a top 100 now !!
And Funeral is #55 !!! Well deserved in my opinion. Just 6 months ago it has climbed my personal list form #27 to #18.

Me too. I couldn't get that album, maybe i'll try again in a couple of months.

I totally agree .

Thanks for your quick response- makes total sense. Not to nitpick, but I'm pretty sure Mingus' "Tijuana Moods" came out in 1962 (on RYM as well), not 1964. It definitely preceded "Black Saint..."

Thanks again... awesome job!

Must have slipped... Thanks Brad!

I agree. The British press likes to sabotage their own heroes by overhyping them. "OASIS IS THE NEW BEATLES!" (They immediately stop producing hits). It's the same thing they did to Tim Henman. And The Strokes, and Coldplay.

The album I'm saddest to see vanish from the top 3000 is Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Critics ignore it cause it's country, especially outside the US. The only site I've ever seen give it props is Popmatters.

Has anyone gone through and looked for greatest gainers? I know Comme a la Radio went up like 1500 points.

Sorry if you know this already, but to "go through and look" for these things all you need to do is to re-sort the spreadsheet that is available from the AM home page. The top 20 climbers:

Miossec - Boire (climbed 1493 places - from 2811 to 1318)
Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago - Comme à la Radio (climbed 1353 places - from 2902 to 1549)
Kraftwerk - Radio-aktivität (climbed 1270 places - from 2450 to 1180)
Milton Nascimento & Lo Borges - Clube da esquina (climbed 1247 places - from 2392 to 1145)
Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (climbed 1221 places - from 2199 to 978)
Mano Negra - Puta's Fever (climbed 1205 places - from 2388 to 1183)
Chico Buarque - Construcao (climbed 1180 places - from 2693 to 1513)
J Dilla aka Jay Dee - Donuts (climbed 1171 places - from 2183 to 1012)
Rufus Wainwright - Want One (climbed 1152 places - from 2233 to 1081)
Diana Ross - Diana (climbed 1037 places - from 2195 to 1158)
Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps (climbed 1018 places - from 2177 to 1159)
The National - Alligator (climbed 1018 places - from 2296 to 1278)
Propellerheads - Decksandrumsandrockandroll (climbed 953 places - from 2843 to 1890)
Kevin Ayers - Joy of a Toy (climbed 919 places - from 2554 to 1635)
Elton John - Elton John (climbed 917 places - from 2981 to 2064)
The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - ACME (climbed 909 places - from 2883 to 1974)
Mogwai - Rock Action (climbed 898 places - from 2441 to 1543)
2 Many DJs - As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2 (climbed 896 places - from 2739 to 1843)
Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism (climbed 856 places - from 1821 to 965)
Le Tigre - Le Tigre (climbed 849 places - from 2617 to 1768)

Other results I'm very happy about (Stuff I put in my top 200):

Tool - Aenima 1235-782
Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes 1095-799

And, the highest percentage gain:
Daft Punk - Discovery 1327-547 (58.8%)

Also in terms of percentage gain, Silent Shout comes in fourth behind Moissec and J Dilla.

The big winners seem to be France and Spain, judging by your gainer list, and the fact that Serge Gainsbourg was the highest entry into the top 500.

"As for the new all-time rankings, I'm so glad Oasis is dropping. This trend will no doubt continue with future updates. The world is slowly righting itself. The economy will be fixed, and Oasis' albums will be out of the top 200".[/quote]

The world is doing a half-arsed job of righting itself if Be Here Now has forced its flabby, cocaine addled carcass into the top 3000 albums.

The rise of Alligator has put a big smile on my face

Just wondering, Henrik, if you have a list of all the albums that have had their year modified in the AM database, such as these.

BTW, great job! Keep up the good work!

Aw sweet, an update! I wasn't expecting one of these any time soon, this is great! Thank you so much, Henrik!

-brian

the update is much appreciated- satill taking it in. :)

Question: Were the Iguana albums lists removed from the site? I was just adding the new info for Madge in my records, and noticed the Iguana citations are not on the site for Ray of Light (No. 46), Music (No. 78) and Confessions on a Dance Floor (No. 67). Thanks, bud. :)

thanks to all others for their work.

There were some lists I wasn't even aware of, and i try to keep track of these. hehe (like some newly added ones from France, like the FNAC one)

1. RE lists that didn't have an order- why are some credited with a "1" ranking, whereas others have the regular "No Order" credit?

2. RE Le Guide du CD (France)- I take it that select albums from an act were included in this feature, and not an act's entire discography?

Thanks. :)

I discovered that the Iguana lists are from one person only, and I don't include any EOY lists from single critics.

They should have "No Order". Which ones have a "1"?

Le Guide has incomplete discographys. I don't know why.

Snusmumrik. Good point re the albums list. On that point alone how can The Dan only be late 60's when albums alone should be the source of lists of artists. Obviously other factors are coming into play, e.g. singles but Icant understand why. Singles are only tracks off an album and at very least the top 200 album list by albums is a slightly fairer reflection of the artists list. However, I have never seen a poll of critics and musicians who are asked who their favourite artists were/are. I feel this would be a fairer reflection of who the all time great artists are but i have never seen one other than individuals posting their own lists. Just look at the 1970's list. Steely Dan only the 21st best act of the 70's ?? No way in a million years. The Dan were the best band of the 70's by a country mile yet are below even the likes of Lou Reed, Roxy Music and Kraftwerk for gawds sake !

We have had this discussion before. I do not have time to include best of artists lists, but if someone else compiles best-artists lists into a spreadsheet (maybe using the EOD/EOY albums/songs template) I will definitely publish it as a part of AM. There are a few best-artists lists at rocklist.co.uk to start with. These lists from SPIN and NME are the ones I remember right now (although I'm afraid they include Sex Pistols but not Steely Dan). If my memory has not failed me, JR also collected a few other artist lists a while ago.

so, the Igauna singles lists are compiled from multiple people, and the albums list by one?

A few citations I've seen that have the "1" rather than "No Order":

Rock&Folk (France) - The 300 Best Albums from 1965-1995 (1995)
Rock&Folk (France) - The 250 Best Albums from 1966-1991 (1991) 1
Vibe (USA) - 150 Albums That Define the Vibe Era (1992-2007) 1

RE best artists lists- a good example of a recent one would be Rolling Stone's 100 Immortals; others that have done similar lists include VH1, Life, Entertainment Weekly (Greatest Entertainers), Blender, Q and others. But I garee that that should be somethign separate from a compilation of albums and songs/tracks.

I went to the rocklist site- are you concluding that it'sa one-person list because of that e-mail contact that's shown for some of the lists? I wouldn't know, why I'm inquiring.

And I figured out that you didn't remove the Iguana songs citations because songs weren't updated at this moment (which I already knew, but didn't put two-and-two together. ha)

I got the information from another website.

Exactly.

Qouting Blur: Whoah!

What a feast!!! and feat!!! Simply superb!!! Thanx Henrik!!!

I, like a few others, am very, very glad that many of the new additions have been foreign music. It adds so much flavor to AM. The way I see it, on most movie lists and list aggregation sites like TSP, foreign films are a normal occurence among the top 200 and above. But with music, this has been sorely (though understandably, since it's hard to have "subtitles" for albums) lacking. Man I love this site.

Henrik, do you still include his ratings for albums? I.e., he gave Confessions on a Dance Floor a B+, but it's not included with the album's information. (probably are other acts' albums, as well, that he rated).

As they should be.

Sorry Henrik for not replying earlier (problems with my internet connection plus lack of time) but let me add my congratulations for the update. I wish you could have seen the smile on my face when I read so many French, Brazilian, Spanish, German and African albums on the Top 3000. Finally justice was made. The main bias of this site (and of any list) was the language and thanks to the new lists this has been fully corrected (maybe Asia is still the unknown continent but we'll see).
Now I'm happy. Henrik, thanks a lot. And many thanks to the Magnificent Seven (because there were seven collaborators, isn't it?).
Hopefully tomorrow my connection will be fixed.

I have been a big Steely Dan fan since 1971. In terms of composition, lyrics, fusion, and instrumental achievement, Steely Dan is fantastic. Some of their more recent albums have not been as impressive for me. But, their work in the 70's was consistently excellent (with the possible exception of some tracks on the Royal Scam album - IMO)

But, there are at least two factors (IMO) that limit the breadth of Steely Dan's acclaim:

1) Fagan's (somewhat nasally) vocals are off-putting to many listeners,
2) the percussion on most Steely Dan songs is nothing special.

I can surely imagine your smile when you saw the Spanish albums entering the top 3000! And I couldn't agree more with you about the corrected bias.

It might seem like the non-English language albums are too high if you look at the number of critics lists appearances. This is because these critics lists are weighted highly compared to critics lists from other countries, where the critics might not be familiar with the language. Note however that for example Dungen's "Ta det lugnt" is probably less acclaimed outside Sweden than in other countries, so this weight distribution is not always to the advantage for non-English language albums.

Really? I'm not an expert on this, as I don't play any instrument myself so I mostly enjoy music without thinking very much about what instruments I hear. However, at least Aja (the album) oozes of superb laidback (but complex) rhythms and Aja (the song) has one of my favorite drum solos ever.

Thanks for politely calling me out and pointing out where my criticism missed the point. I am confident that there are at least another 6 exceptions to the percussion critique. But, compared to the guitar and horn riffs on some of Steely Dan's songs, I generally find the percussion relatively tame.

Do you find their more recent work as interesting as what they were doing in the 1970's?

Henrik, not sure if you saw my inquiry RE Robert Christgau's ratings, a few posts up. Just mentioning it again in case you did. :)

Moonbeam, there's no accounting for taste. You've either got it or you haven't ! Steely Dan are the connoisseurs band, the public probably including you, just don't wanna hear anything that aint straightforward rock n roll. Many critics also have it in for the Dan because they are too clever for them and they simply blow everyone else away musically and lyrically. The public generally have no taste whatsoever, hence crap like the X Factor. A classic example of this is that 10 years ago every critic and most of the public were acclaiming Oasis as one of the all time greats. Finally, 10 years later the public tumble to what anyone who knew at the time could have told them. They are overblown and its all about image and self promotion, as with most of the bands towards the top end of the Acclaimed Music top 100 list. Thats why you end up with results like this. The Police better than Steely Dan, dream on !!

If relative is the key word in your sentence then we agree. I don't think their new material is as good as their '70s output. However, if it was on the same level that would be astonishing.

The problem is not that people don't want to listen to Steely Dan, but that you don't want to listen to anything else.

Thanks for reminding me. All his ratings should be included, so I will look over it before the next update.

If you knew anything about my taste, you'd see how funny your rant is!

I've never claimed that my taste was superior to anyone else's. I know it suits me just fine, though! I've got no qualms with Steely Dan, but I quite like those 3 artists you scoffed for placing higher better- a lot better. Roxy Music, Lou Reed and Kraftwerk are all among my top 30 artists.

Since when are Lou Reed, Roxy Music, and Kraftwerk straight-forward rock and roll?

It's a little obnoxious that you consider yoursef a "connoisseur" and berate the members of this forum. There are some people here who have listened to thousands of acclaimed music albums.

Music is not a math test. There is no right or wrong answer. Therefore it makes no sense to complain that music critics generally like Lou Reed/Roxy Music better than Steely Dan.

If I might venture a guess as to why Steely Dan is not more acclaimed, I would think it's because technical proficiency and thoughtful lyrics are not everyone's cuppa tea. Some of us like our music messier.

I agree with you - it serves little purpose to complain about critics and others who have different tastes than our own. What could be of use is to expand our understanding by striving to understand the bases for tastes that differ from our own. Your explanation may help accomplish that. Thanks.

Pete Evans: You speak to moonbeam as if he has an inferior taste than yours and that he is wrong in his music tastes and you are right. This is unfair. You seem to be accusing moonbeam (more this website on a whole) of being wrong because it does not represent your tastes. There is no correct taste in music that one must conform to and I doubt that anyone on this forum feels that way. It would take any entertainment out of listening to or disscussing music if everyone's tastes in music could be deemed as simply good or bad. I do not believe this website is meant to say that this is what the critics say is good, it is right this band is superior to this band and anyone who disagrees is wrong. No this website is meant to provide a general guide to what music critics on average feel to be the best, for better or for worst. One of my favourite bands Joe Strummer & the mescalaroes is barely represented on the top 3000 (their only represented album is bubbling under). If critics or someone does not agree with me that does not have a better or worse taste, it is simply different. if you disagree with the list dont become angry at the website, write some angry letters about steeley dan towards magazines and websites who make the lists incorporated into this website (spin pitchfork rolling stone NME). the only great crime is not being open to or willing to try new music that differs from ones own tastes.

Is there any chance that you are just yanking our collective chain?

this.

He had me up until this quote. How could this not be a joke, or at the very least an exaggeration?

oh...oops, when I wrote that neither of the 2 previous posts had apeared as far as I can remember, if I had seen them I would not have left my babbling paragraph...oh well

Steely Dan is amazing. Probably in my top 40 artists of all time. Definitely like them more than the Police (Who I find massively overrated)...but not sure about Roxy Music and Kraftwerk.