I went through the Pitchfork 500 quickly and here are the songs from this decade that were not in the 500-21
Daft Punk – One More Time
Radiohead – Idioteque
Outkast – B.O.B.
Missy Elliott – Get Ur Freak On
Osymyso – Intro-Inspection
The Knife – Heartbeats
LCD Soundystem – Lossing My Edge
The Rapture – House of Jealous Lovers
My Morning Jacket – The Way That He Sings
Lightning Bolt – Ride the Sky
The Decemberists – Here I Dreamt I Was an Architect
Radiohead – Life in a Glasshouse
Deerhoof – This Magnificent Bird Will Rise
Outkast – Hey Ya
Kanye West – Through The Wire
R. Kelly – Ignition (Remix)
Beyonce – Crazy In Love
Gnarls Barkley – Crazy
Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Maps
The Walkmen – The Rat
M83 – Don’t Save Us from the Flames
Annie – Heartbeat
Boris – Farewell
The Go! Team – The Power Is On
Arcade Fire – Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)
Love Is All – Busy Doing Nothing
Black Dice – Cone Toaster


And the top songs from the 2000-2004 singles list that are not included
1. Outkast- B.O.B.
2. Outkast- Hey Ya!
3. LCD Soundsystem – Losing my Edge
4. Missy Elliott – Get Ur Freak On
6. Annie – Heartbeat
7. Beyonce – Crazy in Love
9. The Rapture – House of Jealous Lovers
10. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Maps
12. R. Kelly – Ignition (remix)


From 2005-2008 singles/ songs lists the only top 5 singles that are not included yet are
2007
1. LCD Soundsystem – All my Friends
4. M.I.A. - Paper Planes (remix)

2008
01: Hercules and Love Affair- Blind
05: M83- Kim & Jessie

"Kim & Jessie" is already on the list, isn't it? It's #256.

My prediction, jus for fun:

1. OutKast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)
2. LCD Soundsystem - All My Friends
3. M.I.A. - Paper Planes
4. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
5. Hercules and Love Affair - Blind
6. Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On
7. Beyonce - Crazy in Love
8. Annie - Heartbeat
9. Radiohead - Idioteque
10. LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
11. Johnny Cash - Hurt
12. Arcade Fire – Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)
13. OutKast - Hey Ya!
14. The Knife - Heartbeats
15. MGMT - Kids
16. Animal Collective - My Girls
17. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps
18. Eminem feat. Dido - Stan
19. R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix)
20. The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers

"Hurt" may well not make it, this is purely a gut instinct. Same deal with "Stan", though it not making it while "Without Me" makes it is just, well, odd.

If I'm right, the most shocking omissions would be:

The Walkmen - The Rat (Still think this might come in #20 and knock out The Rapture)

Joanna Newsom - Emily (2 from Milk-Eyed and 0 from Ys? Shocking)

Jay-Z - 99 Problems (with 3 songs in the Top 100, I guess that would be considered enough)

LCD Soundsystem - Yeah! (again, 3 in the Top 100)

Wilco - I Am Trying to Break Your Heart (only 2 from YHF, I'm thinking. I think they got the right 2, though this is often name-checked)

The Strokes – Last Nite and Hard to Explain (I think Is This It only lands 2 on, though either of these appearing would not surprise me)

Amy Winehouse - Rehab (don't think she's a P-fork favorite)

Daft Punk - One More Time (eclipsed by the far superior Digital Love)

1. LCD Soundsystem - All My Friends
2. OutKast - B.O.B
3. OutKast - Hey Ya!
4. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
5. Hercules and Love Affair - Blind
6. M.I.A - Paper Planes
7. Beyonce - Crazy in Love
8. Annie - Heartbeat
9. LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
10. Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On
11. Animal Collective - My Girls
12. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps
13. Radiohead - Idioteque
14. Jay Z - 99 Problems
15. MGMT - Kids
16. The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers
17. Eminem - Stan
18. LCD Soundsystem - Yeah!
19. R. Kelley - Ignition (Remix)
20. Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #1

This is my final prediction, with just under 2 hours untill unveiling. I'm going to call that LCDSS and Jigga do indeed put 4 songs into the T100. Pitchfork clearly loves both artists. Also, sonofsamiam, I think calling Hey Ya for anything other than T10 is a losing proposition.

The Strokes will NOT make the top 20. Pitchfork already said that Someday was the highest ranking Strokes song.

I was disappointed to see Bro's so low. I really thought that would be in the top 10.

I still stand my pick of All My Friends for number one, though.

Ya you're right it is on the list.
I just did the list fast.

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It's up

I'd be thrilled if Annie's "Heartbeat" landed at number 8, as both of you predict. I'm happy enough that it's in the top 20, but a top 10 place would be excellent.

1. OutKast -B.O.B.
2. LCD Soundsystem - All My Friends
3. M.I.A. [ft. Bun B and Rich Boy] - Paper Planes (Diplo Remix)
4. Beyoncé [ft. Jay-Z] - Crazy in Love
5. Daft Punk - One More Time
6. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps
7.Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On
8. Radiohead - Idioteque
9. Animal Collective - My Girls
10. Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)
11. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
12. OutKast - Hey Ya!
13. LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
14. Jay-Z - 99 Problems
15. The Knife - Heartbeats
16. The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers
17. Annie - Heartbeat
18. Hercules and Love Affair - Blind
19. R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix)
20. The Walkmen - The Rat

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Other than the semi-high placement of Beyonce and low placement of Hey Ya! it is not that suprising.

i'm pretty surprised by beyonce, but hey... great list

So my friend and I had a bet, me on All My Friends, him on Hey Ya. Got there! As said other than Beyonce's high placing and Hey Ya not making T10, the list isn't shocking, and I feel as though the T3 is excellent.

When I saw Neighborhood #1 at 10, I jumped out of my seat and announced "All hail Funeral! Greatest record of the 00s!". Then when I scrolled down to 8th pitchfork sent me back to reality. How lame would it be if they ddi B.O.B/Kid A again? Although I do have to say, BOB is a worthy champion. Anyway, after seeing the results of this list, NEW PREDICTION

1. Radiohead - Kid A
2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
3. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion
4. Jay Z - The Blueprint
5. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
6. The Knife - Silet Shout
7. OutKast - Stankonia
8. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
9. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
10. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights

Does anyone else think Idioteque is too high? It's a solid song, but I'm not sure that I would put it in my top 10 for the year let alone the decade.

i just realized "Stan" wasn't on the list.... and this makes me sad.

also, i agree with ^^^ i love idiotesque, definitely up there, maybe even top 20... but i like the national anthem better

i have the oddest feeling like this will pretty much be exactly it. though personally, i like return to cookie mountain better than silent shout and YHF better than turn on the bright lights, but w/e

Hell, I don't thing it's the best song off Kid A.

I thought the exact same thing well without the jumping.

For me Idioteque is the best song Radiohead did in the 00s (and depending on which day you ask, maybe the best Radiohead song ever)

Top50 song ever for me (as are B.O.B. and All My Friends)

I would not pick Neighborhood 1 and Rebellions Lies as the 2 best song from Funeral but it is great to see the band so high anyway (but Walk Up is the best song from the album and should be there instead)

I am disappointed in a number of songs that didn't make the list or where I felt the placement was too low. With those that didn't make the list, some I felt were excluded because they didn't wan to put too many songs by the same artist on the list - which I think partly misses the point, because aren't they after all evaluating simply the best songs of the decade, period, regardless of politics? Some just didn't make the list because it's pitchfork, so no matter how much I think some U2 or "Viva La Vida" or something unhip should at least be in the top FIVE HUNDRED songs of the decade, I understand the source and had a feeling they wouldn't be there at all.

But....

That being said, I feel like the the top 10 is pretty solid. Even the ranking was well done (I didn't think the ranking was well done everywhere, that's for sure..."Two Weeks" was too low, for one)....the one thing I maybe would have changed - "Crazy In Love" should be switched with "Hey Ya" as the decade's best pop single, or maybe Gnarls Barkley "Crazy" (I could live with either of those replacing "Get Your Freak On" too but I understand the power that song has over critics....) Besides that though, solid top 10. Glad to see "Neighborhoods #1."

My two cents...

#19. "Ignition (Remix)"
Remember when R. Kelly was facing all those child molestation charges, and he responds by coming out with an album called "Chocolate Factory" and the big single off that is this one? Balls, man. Big brass ones. I don't know why I love this song as much as I do, but I'm very happy to see it as high as it is.

#16. "House of Jealous Lovers"
The critics seem to love this song, and my feelings toward it ebb and flow. Literally two days ago, I was cranking it up and singing along in my car. Today I can't stand to think I was doing that. At 16, it's too high, but it's not TOO high.

#12. "Hey Ya!"
At 12, it's WAY too low. This should definitely be top ten, maybe even top five.

#11. "Crazy"
See my comments for "Hey Ya!"

#10. "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)"
I'm convinced that "Rebellion (Lies)" is the better track, but I'm not going to complain with a track from Funeral getting to the #10 spot. Besides, even though it's not my favorite track off the album, it still kicks ass.

#8. "Idioteque"
GOD DAMN IT! I just cannot understand why this fucking song gets so much love. Or even why Kid A gets so much love. I've listened to that album so many times, and there is nothing worth listening to after "Optimistic." Pitchfork even falls all over itself calling the album "miraculous." Jesus Christ, get off your knees and take Radiohead's... (the rest of this comment contains offensive language, incitements to violence, and rubber novelty poop and has therefore been deleted)

#4. "Crazy in Love"
Pretty good pop song, granted. But the fourth best of the decade? This just confirms my belief that this has been a REALLY weak decade.

#3. "Paper Planes (Diplo Remix)"
For my own sake, can I just say that it's the album version of this song and not some remix? If so, then I'll agree with it. Brilliant track.

#1. "B.O.B."
I remember when "Ms. Jackson" was blowing up the airwaves thinking, "Yeah, it's good, but why the hell isn't 'B.O.B.' getting this kind of love?" I'm a little surprised to see it at #1, but I'm certainly not disappointed.

yes.

Strange, I can't see the results yet on my computer. I've tried deleting cookies, and still nothing!

I was hoping Annie could crack the top 10, but what the heck. I'm happy that "Maps" did, and "All My Friends" at number 2 is certainly a lofty position!

I simply cannot fathom the love for Beyonce or R. Kelly, though. I hated those songs the first time I heard them, and I hate them just as much now. In fact, "Crazy in Love" pollutes my bottom 100 songs list.

"Rebellion (Lies)" is my favorite, but I agree on "Wake Up" and I also love "Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)." That song just ebbs and flows, and builds and builds and BUILDS, in such an anthemic way, until it ends with that final crashing chord ... then a few seconds of sustain ... then ANOTHER crash. FUNERAL was playing while I was in a Borders the other night, and even though I had finished my business and was actually in kind of a rush to get home, when "Power Out" came on I simply couldn't leave until it was over. It would have felt ... disrespectful.

By the way, has everyone seen the amazing trailer for Spike Jonze's adaptation of WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE that uses "Wake Up" as its backing music? Oh, man.

So, I was wrong about:

"Hurt" -- I find it strange "The Man Comes Around" made it and this didn't. Maybe it'll top the videos list to make up for it?

"Stan" -- How "The Real Slim Shady" and "Without Me" made it and this did not is baffling. Dated self-mythology trumps storytelling and honest emotion, I suppose.

"Kids" -- just shocked about this, guess they're just not MGMT fans. (Neither am I, so I'm not that sad about it.)

Glad "99 Problems" made it so high. "One More Time" at #5 is shocking, though I do love Daft Punk. That high is still a surprise though. I don't think I get the amount of acclaim "The Rat" gets -- good song, but #20 of the decade?

And I go for "The National Anthem" over "Idioteque" any day of the week, but that's just a taste thing.



Still, gonna give myself slight props for picking the Top 3.

Calling the top 3 was really sick. The only prediction I saw that was better was one on metacritic where they got 19 songs, missing only Neighborhood #1 for Emily.

Biggest surprise for me was loading the page and seeing Walkmen at 20th instead of Stan. In hindsight, Kids was a bad call. Pitchfork has expressed their dislike for MGMT in the past.

Maybe the fork is with me on Eminem. I think his serious stuff is only acclaimed because it's him... nobody thought he had it in him even if it isn't all that great. His forte is being obnoxious, having fun and creating club anthems... and they're pretty good songs.

I feel there are very few covers in the list which might explain the omission of "Hurt". "The Man Comes Around" might also be seen as his "swan song". And my neck hair did stand up once I listened to it...

"The Rat" is a "Fred" song, it's all about the same old "tension" - "release tension" thing. They are in the business of tension delivery, The Walkmen. And sometimes such a song "smokes".

It's hard for me to think of Stan as a 'serious' song. I take it as "I'm SO awesome that this guy murder-suicides his girlfriend just cause I snubbed him!" Not only that, he gets to be the good guy in the song by actually writing back at the end. Stan is quite possibly the most narcissistic song I've ever heard, and one of the most blatant examples of marketing by shock value. Not only that he gets associative credit for throwing in a verse from a one hit wonder's one hit.

Maybe I should just save the rant for bracketology.

I would probably put Idioteque decently high on my own list, but I'd put Everything In It's Right Place higher. I think Idioteque gets a little bit overrated because it was the first song a lot of people heard on it, and thus the one that caused people to either get on or off the experimental Radiohead bandwagon.

It's definitely way too early to judge the 00's as a strong or weak decade. The music hasn't had nearly enough time to sit with us yet. I'd probably put it above the 90's overall. The 00's might be the worst mainstream decade, but way too much of the big 90's indie stuff is just buzzy mumbling lo-fi.

No Machine Gun?

Well, because of that discussion on Rebellion Lies I have tried to find "the song I like the most among all the songs i consider the less good in an album".
And Rebellion Lies is definitely one of my favourite, proving that Funeral is a no filler album to me.

However I think I prefer Amity from XO, Na na na from Silent Shout, It could be Sweet from Dummy, Time to Get Away from Sound of Silver.
And it is a tie with Hang On To Yourself from Ziggy Stardust (and very close call with The Righteous and the Wicked on Blood Sugar Sex Magik).

Strangely enough all those song beats those from my top 2 albums !

Dark horse for best album from the 'Fork: Silent Shout. They drool all over it whenever they get the chance, and I think they'll go a little outside the box with albums after going (basically) chalk with B.O.B. and All My Friends.

I maybe alone in this but I think Funeral has a ton of filler compared to some of the better albums of this decade. It has some of the greatest songs of the decade, but beyond the top 4 or so, it kind of pales in comparison to a few other albums. Just my opinion.

As for the pitchfork top 10 albums:

01. Radiohead- Kid A
02. Animal Collective- Merriweather Post Pavillion
03. Jay-Z- The Blueprint
04. Interpol- Turn on the Bright Lights
05. LCD Soundsystem- Sound of Silver
06. OutKast- StanKonia
07. Sigur Ros- Agaetis Byrjun
08. Sufjan Stevens- Illinios
09. The Knife- The Silent Shout
10. Fleet Foxes- Fleet Foxes

Even if you dont think as highly of funeral as others, you cant deny the fact that it will be in the top 10, if not top 5, if not #1. Funeral was a huge album not just for Arcade Fire, but for Pitchfork as well Pitchfork started showing there muscle as a music pusher when funeral was released. Im sure they played an important part in funerals success. Pitchfork is one of the few music sites that actually have some weight, a good pitchfork review oftens means alot of extra money in sales. They wont deny their love for it when the time comes.

1)Radiohead - Kid A
2)Arcade Fire - Funeral
3)Panda Bear - Person Pitch
4)TV on The Radio - Return To Cookie Mountain
5)LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
6)Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion
7)Sufjan Stevens - Illinios
8)Radiohead - Amnesiac
9)Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
10)Outkast - Stankonia

I really havent the slightest clue. But I'm sure my top 3 picks will reign high on pitchforks list.

I don't think it's a BAD album. It's probably in my top 20 of the decade, just not my top 20 of all time like some people.

Pitchfork ranked it #45 on it's top albums of the first half of the 00s. That leads me to believe it'll be more in the 70-75 range.

It'll definitely make a lot of top 10 lists, but I don't think Pitchfork's will be one of them.

Funeral was what, 3 months old when that first list came out? They've gone back and declared it a masterpiece many times over. The album will T5. I actually think that pitchfork is going to spice things up a bit with albums. They're big on sensationalism, and what would be more sensational than Kid A, "the last great album", being dethroned from its roost? Following the pitchformula I think we might be working with something like

1. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
3. Radiohead - Kid A

Of course the spots are volatile, but I have a feeling SOS is getting it's due.

SR

There were many albums from 2004 that were ranked higher than Funeral on the top of 00-04. Among them

Animal Collective- Sung Tongs
Madvillain- Madvillainy
Dvendra Banhardt- Rejoicing in the Hands
Fiery Furnaces- Blueberry Boat

Pitchfork is probably going to want to buck many mainstream indie stereotypes. Going down the top 5 from acclaimedmusic's 00s list...


01. The Strokes- Is This It- Will probably be about 25-30. They've always liked this guardedly.
02. The White Stripes- Elephant- Won't be listed. They've never liked this album.
03. Franz Ferdinand- S/T- Probably about 130-140. Pitchfork has always been very modest about this album.
04. Arcade Fire- Funeral- 40 at the highest, 80 at the lowest. I don't expect this to tear up the list.
05. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot- In the top 20, but no higher than 10.


so the 1,2,3,4, and 5, will probably be 25, not listed, 100-something, 50-60, and 15-20. That's the way Pitchfork does things.

Check the dates. The 04 eoy list (wich funeral topped) came after the 00-04 list. It served as the correction.

I agree about Is This It and YHF though. They'll get props, but neither can probably T10.

Edit: If they weren't big fans of Funeral, than I highly doubt Neibhrohood #1 (Tunnels) would have made T10 of their songs list.

Funeral was by far the youngest album on the 00-04 lists. In fact many publications hadnt heard the album until the following year. PItchfork employees had barely digested funeral when they made that list. Its inclusion on the list, to me, speaks very highly of its merit. They new it was special and they forced it into a list that perhaps they shouldnt have made so early.

Pitchfork should have waited longer for this eod list. Albums like Embryonic could be amazing and deserve high praise.

No, the decade list was the correction.


http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5934-top-50-albums-of-2004/ posted December 31, 2004.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5956-the-top-100-albums-of-2000-04-part-one/ posted February 7th, 2005.

Who knows, maybe they've changed their tune, but Funeral definitely dropped percipitously in just 2 months.


I've learned not to get my hopes up with pitchfork. If something is too classic, they'll cut it down to size a bit on their decade end list. Nevermind at #6 of the 90s, Sign o The Times in the 40s of the 80s, and Exile on Main Street at #11 of the 70s, are all signs of pitchfork's taste making.

Quite frankly, the only album currently in AM's top 10 that will make PF's top 10 is Kid A. That said, I don't even think Elephant (which won't make the list) will be really negatively impacted by it, much less albums like YHF and Funeral (which will make the list, just not in top 10 spots.)