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Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Wow, I didn't realize P&J was coming out tomorrow (Tue 1/31) already. That's earlier than usual. I thought I'd start a thread by offering my prediction for the poll's top twenty albums:

1. Kanye West, LATE REGISTRATION
2. Sufjan Stevens, ILLINOIS
3. The New Pornographers, TWIN CINEMA
4. M.I.A., ARULAR
5. Sleater-Kinney, THE WOODS
6. Antony and the Johnsons, I AM A BIRD NOW
7. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
8. Bright Eyes, I'M WIDE AWAKE IT'S MORNING
9. My Morning Jacket, Z
10. The White Stripes, GET BEHIND ME SATAN
11. Fiona Apple, EXTRAORDINARY MACHINE
12. Animal Collective, FEELS
13. Bloc Party, SILENT ALARM
14. Common, BE
15. CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY YEAH
16. Spoon, GIMME FICTION
17. Gorillaz, DEMON DAYS
18. Wolf Parade, APOLOGIES TO THE QUEEN MARY
19. Art Brut, BANG BANG ROCK & ROLL
20. The Hold Steady, SEPARATION SUNDAY

Oooohhh...

I also didn't think it would be released this early. Much excite. :)

How about predicting the top 20 singles/tracks, HW? :)

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Hmm,... a few comments:
-Gorillaz fared well (20th) in 2001 with their debut, despite vanilla acclaim upon release. I expect Demon Days will be in the top 5 or at least 10.
-You're probably right about Kanye, even though it's absurd that he'd beat Sufjan. But if he got #1 last year it'd make sense that LR would get #1 also.
-I think Feels will be way lower. I just don't think it's accessible enough for these guys. Besides, Sung Tongs was 21st on last years'.
-Is it possible for Arcade Fire to show up again? I've seen this happen with the voice for albums that are released in december or something, but I don't know if the overseas thing has any impact.
-In the same vein, seems the Go! Team would place at some point.
-Wolf Parade's an interesting question. They're the most "indie" indie album that was acclaimed this year, and their placement on lists has varied wildly. I get the feeling it'll place, but these guys are too mainstream to place it that high.
-I imagine Bloc Party will at least break the top 10.
-Finally... drumroll please... the geezer albums! Albums that weren't actually that good but are included for nostalgia's sake. Don't forget Liz Phair pulled 38th place with a 36 on metacritic in 2003!
Thus, I nominate: Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang, I suggest Get Behind Me Satan will be higher though probably not top 5, Kraftwerk's Live Album, almost certainly BECK, maybe even Coldplay and Death Cab. And good lord I just realized you've forgotten Franz, not that that's a fogie album.

Anyway, I'm not assertive enough to create my own list, just unravel yours. It looks pretty accurate overall though.

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Since this is generally more mainstream, I doubt Sufjan will peak at the top. He'll definitely be in the top 20 though, where he belongs in the first place.

When WIll This Be Online?

2004's is still up. Does it usually appear right away online, or does someone usually post the uinfo from the publication or somethin'? Thanks. :)

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

It should be up in about three hours or so (around 12 noon New York time). Someone usually posts it here fairly soon after its release.

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No word yet?

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I'm beginning to think that someone was the recipient of bad information, unless it's merely the case that the posting of the list has been delayed. It's entirely possible that P&J isn't actually coming out until next week. We'll know soon enough.

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop05/winners.php?type=album

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Here's the album list:
1. Kanye West, LATE REGISTRATION
2. M.I.A., ARULAR
3. Sufjan Stevens, ILLINOIS
4. Sleater-Kinney, THE WOODS
5. Fiona Apple, EXTRAORDINARY MACHINE
6. The White Stripes, GET BEHIND ME SATAN
7. Antony and the Johnsons, I AM A BIRD NOW
8. The Hold Steady, SEPARATION SUNDAY
9. The New Pornographers, TWIN CINEMA
10. My Morning Jacket, Z
11. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
12. THELONIUS MONK QUARTET WITH JOHN COLTRANE AT CARNEGIE HALL
13. Amadou and Miriam, DIMANCHE A BAMAKO
14. Spoon, GIMME FICTION
15. Common, BE
16. Bright Eyes, I’M WIDE AWAKE IT’S MORNING
17. Beck, GUERO
18. Bloc Party, SILENT ALARM
19. The Go! Team, THUNDER, LIGHTNING, STRIKE
20. Bettye LaVette, I’VE GOT MY OWN HELL TO RAISE
21. Gorillaz, DEMON DAYS
22. Animal Collective, FEELS
23. Art Brut, BANG BANG ROCK & ROLL
24. Konono No. 1, CONGOTRONICS
25. Kate Bush, AERIAL
26. Franz Ferdinand, YOU COULD HAVE IT SO MUCH BETTER
27. John Legend, GET LIFTED
28. Wolf Parade, APOLOGIES TO THE QUEEN MARY
29. The Mountain Goats, THE SUNSET TREE
30. System of a Down, MEZMERIZE
31. Dungen, TA DET LUNGT
32. Coldplay, X & Y
33. The Decemberists, PICARESQUE
34. Danger Doom, THE MOUSE AND THE MASK
35. CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY YEAH
36. Deerhoof, THE RUNNERS FOUR
37. Stars, SET YOURSELF ON FIRE
38. The National, ALLIGATOR
39. Young Jeezy, LET’S GET IT: THUG MOTIVATION 101
40. Bruce Springsteen, DEVILS AND DUST

OK, Henrik. You know what to do next. ;-)

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Hated it! Nowhere near as good as ours! No Sigur Ros! I'm gonna cry!

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

I don't have a problem with it, it's as expected pretty much. Two of my top five are below the 300 mark and another couple of my top ten are outside the top 100.

I thought the singles list was awful.

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I can't believe Kanye topped both lists; I thought "SUBG" was a shoo-in for #1. "Gold Digger" was catchy and all, but it was basically a novelty song.

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Yeah, you would think "Since U Been Gone" would have topped the chart. But "Gold Digger" was EVERYWHERE and was released at the right time while the former came out way early in the year. Either way, it's remarkable that Kanye topped both last year's and this year's poll!

As Expected...

"Hung Up" fares notably better than Confessions on a Dance Floor. No denying that track's near-pop perfection (esp. in its album/video version).

Twenty-six citations for the album isn't so bad. The critical pool is its largest yet, so the percentage of critics citing it is down compared to albums like Ray of Light and Music.

No surprise to see Kanye top both lists.

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

What a rubbish list.

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How many albums and singles does Henrik include in the AM list?

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Has the singles list always been based on mentions with the albums list being based on points?

Yep...

the singles list has just listed the # of mentions as far back as at leat the 80s (and probably before).

I think Henrik looks at just the top 50 for the P&J poll (though who knows if that would change). It's only in recent years that albums/singles beyond the top 40 were published online- and even in general, I think, as the publication ony had listed the top 40 through the 90s).

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Yes, I include the top 50 for my calculations. I'll try to make the next update in the coming weekend (but no promise).

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For completeness' sake, here are the P&J rankings of the other albums which currently appear on the Acclaimed Music top 2500:

41. Isolee, WE ARE MONSTER
42. Feist, LET IT DIE (2004 album)
49. ANDREW BIRD AND THE MYSTERIOUS PRODUCTION OF EGGS
50. Sigur Ros, TAKK...
58. Okkervil River, BLACK SHEEP BOY
66. The Kaiser Chiefs, EMPLOYMENT
71. Maximo Park, A CERTAIN TRIGGER
72. BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE
90. Devendra Banhart, CRIPPLE CROW
119. THE MAGIC NUMBERS

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I could understand the singles list being aweful because the singles this year reeked!!!!!!!!

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Is this weighted more than other sources since it utilized SO many sources?

Re: Village Voice Pazz and Jop Top 20 predictions

Yes it is.