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2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Here we go! Counting down our favorite albums from 500 to 1, with an increasingly detailed presentation as we go along.

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[500] Eels | Electro-Shock Blues | 1998
Points: 310 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 2712

[499] Public Enemy | Apocalypse '91 - The Enemy Strikes Black | 1991
Points: 311 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1124

[498] Amy Winehouse | Back to Black | 2006
Points: 312 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 179

[497] The Flying Burrito Bros | The Gilded Palace of Sin | 1969
Points: 312 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 161

[496] X | Los Angeles | 1980
Points: 312 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 428

[495] The Replacements | Tim | 1985
Points: 312 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 507

[494] The Shins | Wincing the Night Away | 2007
Points: 313 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 2086

[493] Spoon | Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga | 2007
Points: 313 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 777

[492] Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin III | 1970
Points: 313 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 392

[491] Hüsker Dü | New Day Rising | 1985
Points: 314 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 426

[490] Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | 1975
Points: 315 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 783

[489] The Smiths | Meat Is Murder | 1985
Points: 315 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 593

[488] Elvis Costello and The Attractions | Get Happy!! | 1980
Points: 316 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 377

[487] This Heat | Deceit | 1981
Points: 317 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1579

[486] Camera Obscura | Let's Get Out Of This Country | 2006
Points: 317 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1925

[485] Creedence Clearwater Revival | Green River | 1969
Points: 317 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 268

[484] Paul and Linda McCartney | Ram | 1971
Points: 317 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1221

[483] Neu! | Neu! | 1972
Points: 318 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 533

[482] Kraftwerk | Autobahn | 1974
Points: 318 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 273

[481] Metallica | Master of Puppets | 1986
Points: 319 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 157

[480] The Streets | A Grand Don't Come for Free | 2004
Points: 319 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 549

[479] Yes | Close to the Edge | 1972
Points: 319 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 614

[478] Pere Ubu | Dub Housing | 1978
Points: 320 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 757

[477] Bloc Party | Silent Alarm | 2005
Points: 321 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 423

[476] Cream | Disraeli Gears | 1967
Points: 321 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 166

[475] Pretenders | Pretenders | 1980
Points: 323 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 163

[474] Gene Clark | No Other | 1974
Points: 323 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1020

[473] The Boo Radleys | Giant Steps | 1993
Points: 324 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 795

[472] White Noise | An Electric Storm | 1968
Points: 325 | Votes: 3 AM Rank:

[471] Frank Zappa | Hot Rats | 1969
Points: 325 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 209

[470] Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band | Safe as Milk | 1967
Points: 327 | Votes: 4 AM Rank:
442

[469] Stan Getz and João Gilberto | Getz/Gilberto | 1964
Points: 328 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 366

[468] Nine Inch Nails | Pretty Hate Machine | 1989
Points: 328 | Votes: 2 AM Rank: 535

[467] Parliament | Mothership Connection | 1975
Points: 328 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 287

[466] The Crickets | The "Chirping" Crickets | 1957
Points: 329 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 363

[465] Bob Dylan | John Wesley
Harding
| 1967
Points: 330 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 417

[464] Animal Collective | Feels | 2005
Points: 330 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 939

[463] The Chemical Brothers | Dig Your Own Hole | 1997
Points: 330 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 263

[462] Joanna Newsom | Have One on Me | 2010
Points: 331 | Votes: 3 AM Rank:

[461] Miles Davis | Sketches of Spain | 1960
Points: 331 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 393

[460] Jorge Ben | A Tábua de Esmeralda | 1974
Points: 332 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 2226

[459] Kurt Vile | Smoke Ring For My Halo | 2011
Points: 332 | Votes: 3 AM Rank:

[458] The Pains of Being Pure at Heart | The Pains of Being Pure at Heart | 2009
Points: 333 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1085

[457] Pavement | Brighten the Corners | 1997
Points: 334 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1428

[456] The Byrds | Younger Than Yesterday | 1967
Points: 335 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 229

[455] OutKast | Aquemini | 1998
Points: 337 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 640

[454] The Byrds | Mr. Tambourine Man | 1965
Points: 337 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 239

[453] Dexys Midnight Runners | Searching for the Young Soul Rebels | 1980
Points: 338 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 296

[452] Tortoise | Millions Now Living Will Never Die | 1996
Points: 339 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 372

[451] Michael Jackson | Bad | 1987
Points: 340 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 1564

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Some great albums in the 500-451 chunk. I'm happy to see both Deceit and Dub Housing.

Also a few (Led Zeppelin III, Pretty Hate Machine, Los Angeles) I'm surprised weren't higher.

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Jackson
[490] Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | 1975
Points: 315.356704426002 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 783

[474] Gene Clark | No Other | 1974
Points: 323.974167322318 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1020

[460] Jorge Ben | A Tábua de Esmeralda | 1974
Points: 332.500668389627 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 2226
All lower than Kurt Vile and Michael Jackson.. what a world!

Great to see the results ready so soon though Jackson, great job!

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Oh man ! Here it comes ! Thanks Jackson for being so quick. I know it's a tough job.

As I didn't give any comments, I will try to comment albums that are dear to me as they come up

So far, 2 albums that made my list, 2 jazz greats

Getz-Gilberto and Sketches of Spain

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Yeah baby!

Umm...only two others who voted for "Master of Puppets"?

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Hooray Jackson! Awesome job tabulating everything so quickly.

I thought there would be more love for Mothership Connection.

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How many voters did we end up with?

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Looks like my whole top 9 made the top 500 !

I'm surprised by the high ranking of Kurt Vile, I though PJ would be the only one who had a chance of putting a 2011 album in the top 500.

And I have never heard of "An Electric Storm" by White Noise, the only non 2010/2011 unranked album so far.

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Green River and the Chirping Crickets are too low!

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I guess umm I umm am responsible for Kurt Vile's high positioning


But anyway, great! So excited! Weird seeing Joanna so low.

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Not much love for Amy Winehouse among the voters.

Pleasantly surprised to see Close to the Edge do so well.

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only 50 albums in and already better than the Rolling Stone 500..

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nj
only 50 albums in and already better than the Rolling Stone 500..


All you need for that though is to acknowledge music continued to be recorded after 1991.

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[450] Bonnie "Prince" Billy | I See a Darkness | 1999
Points: 342 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 349

[449] Joanna Newsom | The Milk-Eyed Mender | 2004
Points: 342 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1234

[448] Van Halen | Van Halen | 1978
Points: 343 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 255

[447] John Coltrane | My Favorite Things | 1961
Points: 344 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 539

[446] Patti Smith Group | Easter | 1978
Points: 344 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 883



[445] Pink Floyd | Meddle | 1971
Points: 345 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1385

[444] Gram Parsons | Grievous Angel | 1974
Points: 345 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 122

[443] The Tallest Man on Earth | Shallow Grave | 2008
Points: 346 | Votes: 4 AM Rank:

[442] Boston | Boston | 1976
Points: 346 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 616

[441] Spoon | Kill the Moonlight | 2002
Points: 347 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 621

[440] Tindersticks | Tindersticks (II) | 1995
Points: 347 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1262

[439] Radiohead | The King of Limbs | 2011
Points: 348 | Votes: 5 AM Rank:

[438] Red Hot Chili Peppers | Blood Sugar Sex Magik | 1991
Points: 348 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 200

[437] Bob Marley and The Wailers | Live! | 1975
Points: 348 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 283

[436] PJ Harvey | White Chalk | 2007
Points: 350 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1178

[435] Prefab Sprout | Jordan: The Comeback | 1990
Points: 352 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1408

[434] Fairport Convention | Liege and Lief | 1969
Points: 353 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 398

[433] Wire | 154 | 1979
Points: 356 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 747



[432] Portishead | Portishead | 1997
Points: 358 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 713

[431] Van Dyke Parks | Song Cycle | 1968
Points: 358 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 943

[430] Roxy Music | Avalon | 1982
Points: 359 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 451

[429] Supergrass | I Should Coco | 1995
Points: 359 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 806

[428] The Shins | Oh, Inverted World | 2001
Points: 360 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1342



[427] Madvillain | Madvillainy | 2004
Points: 361 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 399

[426] Godspeed You Black Emperor! | Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven | 2000
Points: 361 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 515

[425] The Who | Quadrophenia | 1973
Points: 362 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 433

[424] The B-52's | The B-52's | 1979
Points: 364 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 502

[423] Lauryn Hill | The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill | 1998
Points: 364 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 146

[422] Elvis Presley | Elvis Presley | 1956
Points: 365 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 106

[421] Randy Newman | Sail Away | 1972
Points: 365 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 374

[420] Stereolab | Emperor Tomato Ketchup | 1996
Points: 366 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 652

[419] Johnny Cash | American III: Solitary Man | 2000
Points: 367 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 688

[418] Deerhunter | Microcastle / Weird Era Cont. | 2008
Points: 367 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 644

[417] Wilco | Being There | 1996
Points: 367 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 580

[416] The Police | Synchronicity | 1983
Points: 368 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 235

[415] Leonard Cohen | Songs from a Room | 1969
Points: 369 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 890

[414] Tracy Chapman | Tracy Chapman | 1988
Points: 370 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 402

[413] Stevie Wonder | Fulfillingness' First Finale | 1974
Points: 371 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 932



[412] Boards of Canada | Geogaddi | 2002
Points: 371 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 633

[411] The Divine Comedy | Promenade | 1994
Points: 373 | Votes: 3 AM Rank:

[410] Built to Spill | Perfect from Now On | 1997
Points: 374 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1137

[409] The Beatles | Please Please Me | 1963
Points: 377 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 489

[408] The Tallest Man on Earth | The Wild Hunt | 2010
Points: 379 | Votes: 3 AM Rank:

[407] Metallica | Ride the Lightning | 1984
Points: 379 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1193

[406] Chet Baker | Chet Baker Sings | 1954
Points: 382 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 2335

[405] Coldplay | Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends | 2008
Points: 384 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 2011

[404] The Cars | The Cars | 1978
Points: 386 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 840



[403] John Coltrane | Ascension | 1966
Points: 386 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1078

[402] Laura Nyro | New York Tendaberry | 1969
Points: 386 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1410

[401] Sinéad O'Connor | I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got | 1990
Points: 387 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 384

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Great Jackson! I will follow the presentation eagerly.
Some great records in the list already.

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Ooh, not one, but two Tallest Man On Earth albums made it in.

King Of Limbs has me wondering if there are going to be a lot of 2011 albums appearing in the 101-400 region of the list.

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BillAdama
Ooh, not one, but two Tallest Man On Earth albums made it in.

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[400] Ramones | Rocket to Russia | 1977
Points: 387 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 315

[399] Wilco | Sky Blue Sky | 2007
Points: 389 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1153

[398] Burial | Untrue | 2007
Points: 389 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 261

[397] Bob Marley and The Wailers | Natty Dread | 1974
Points: 390 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 117

[396] Joe Jackson | Look Sharp! | 1979
Points: 390 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 1210

[395] Eminem | The Marshall Mathers LP | 2000
Points: 391 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 189

[394] N.W.A | Straight Outta Compton | 1988
Points: 392 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 109



[393] My Bloody Valentine | Isn't Anything | 1988
Points: 393 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 570

[392] Howlin' Wolf | Moanin' in the Moonlight | 1959
Points: 394 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 571

[391] Animal Collective | Sung Tongs | 2004
Points: 398 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 935

[390] The Allman Brothers Band | At Fillmore East | 1971
Points: 398 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 120

[389] Pharoah Sanders | Karma | 1969
Points: 398 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1880

[388] New Order | Power, Corruption & Lies | 1983
Points: 399 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 477

[387] Madonna | Ray of Light | 1998
Points: 400 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 427

[386] Brian Wilson | SMiLE | 2004
Points: 400 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 458

[385] Morrissey | You Are the Quarry | 2004
Points: 401 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 848



[384] Cannibal Ox | The Cold Vein | 2001
Points: 403 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 946

[383] Can | Ege Bamyasi | 1972
Points: 403 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 759

[382] The Doors | L.A. Woman | 1971
Points: 408 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 216

[381] Al Green | Call Me | 1973
Points: 408 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 290

[380] Tom Waits | Closing Time | 1973
Points: 409 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1414

[379] Dire Straits | Brothers in Arms | 1985
Points: 410 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 575

[378] Lou Reed | New York | 1989
Points: 410 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 400

[377] The Original Soundtrack | Saturday Night Fever | 1977
Points: 411 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 129



[376] Big Boi | Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty | 2010
Points: 414 | Votes: 5 AM Rank:


[375] Brian Eno | Here Come the Warm Jets | 1973
Points: 417 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 424

[374] Beach House | Teen Dream | 2010
Points: 418 | Votes: 6 AM Rank:

[373] The Original Soundtrack | The Harder They Come | 1972
Points: 419 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 213

[372] Paul Simon | There Goes Rhymin' Simon | 1973
Points: 421 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 913

[371] The Feelies | Crazy Rhythms | 1980
Points: 422 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 499

[370] Dinosaur Jr. | You're Living All Over Me | 1987
Points: 423 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 574

[369] Jacques Brel | Ces gens-la | 1966
Points: 424 | Votes: 5 AM Rank:

[368] R.E.M. | Out of Time | 1991
Points: 429 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 252

[367] Sonic Youth | Sister | 1987
Points: 430 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 305



[366] Wire | Chairs Missing | 1978
Points: 431 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 511

[365] The Beatles | With the Beatles/Meet the Beatles! | 1963
Points: 434 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 286

[364] Genius/GZA | Liquid Swords | 1995
Points: 436 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 1255

[363] Roxy Music | Roxy Music | 1972
Points: 438 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 203

[362] Richard and Linda Thompson | Shoot Out the Lights | 1982
Points: 442 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 347

[361] Vampire Weekend | Contra | 2010
Points: 449 | Votes: 6 AM Rank:

[360] Modest Mouse | The Lonesome Crowded West | 1997
Points: 451 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1263

[359] Fleet Foxes | Helplessness Blues | 2011
Points: 455 | Votes: 7 AM Rank:



[358] Sigur Rós | ( ) | 2002
Points: 457 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 536

[357] John Cale | Paris 1919 | 1973
Points: 458 | Votes: 8 AM Rank: 348

[356] David Bowie | Scary Monsters | 1980
Points: 464 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 491

[355] The Byrds | Sweetheart of the Rodeo | 1968
Points: 466 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 174

[354] Nirvana | MTV Unplugged in New York | 1994
Points: 466 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 309

[353] Sleater-Kinney | One Beat | 2002
Points: 474 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 1044

[352] Johnny Cash | At Folsom Prison | 1968
Points: 475 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 169

[351] Animal Collective | Strawberry Jam | 2007
Points: 476 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 683


Eminem was the first axe to fall from 2009's top 200 list (Marshall Mathers finished 198 last time around). Some really fantastic records in this section, but some really puzzling ones too (the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack? Contra and Helplessness Blues?).

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Nice list so far. Wondering what scheme did we use for points this time?

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Jackson

[369] Jacques Brel | Ces gens-la | 1966


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Great list so far, keep them coming, Jackson!

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Sky Blue Sky makes the top 500? That's embarassing. That album doesn't belong in the top 3000.

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Why is Saturday Night Fever puzzling?

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Yes, the results!

It's been a good list so far, with some surprising falls comparing to last poll. Glad specially with some from my top 30 that have appeared:
30) Jorge Ben - A Tábua de Esmeralda (460)
29) Wilco - Being There (417)
26) The Police - Synchronicity (416)
22) Coldplay - Viva La Vida or Death and All of His Friends (405)

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Jonathon
Sky Blue Sky makes the top 500? That's embarassing. That album doesn't belong in the top 3000.
Can we give this discussion a rest, please.

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I'm surprised Marshal Mathers LP is so low. It should at least be higher than a certain other self-hyping self-referential rapper, cause Eminem's way better at ego flaunting with wordplay.

Weird how many people are just putting the thing they're listening to right this very moment on an all time list. Already three 2011 albums, maybe more if I skipped over one.

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The only thing that surprises me about The Marshall Mathers LP is that it was so high in the first place. Eminem's a great rapper, one of the best lyrically and rhythmically, but he makes inconsistent albums. It's as simple as that. He's best served when showing off his rapping ability, like on his verse in Renegade or in Lose Yourself, which works better in just one song than it does throughout an entire album.

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Henrik
Jonathon
Sky Blue Sky makes the top 500? That's embarassing. That album doesn't belong in the top 3000.
Can we give this discussion a rest, please.


Yes, Lordship. *sneaks off to the wilco thread to argue more.*

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BillAdama
I'm surprised Marshal Mathers LP is so low. It should at least be higher than a certain other self-hyping self-referential rapper, cause Eminem's way better at ego flaunting with wordplay.


Eminem is a better songwriter than Kanye, but Kanye is a much better producer, hence why I like him more. I guess it all depends on what you value more though.

Also, 2011 albums listed so far-

Kurt Vile- Smoke Ring for My Halo- 459
Radiohead- The King of Limbs- 439
Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues- 359

And I guess while I'm at it, 2010 albums listed so far-

Joanna Newsom- Have One On Me- 462
The Tallest Man on Earth- The Wild Hunt- 408
Big Boi- Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty- 376
Beach House- Teen Dream- 374
Vampire Weekend- Contra- 361

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Georgie
Why is Saturday Night Fever puzzling?


It's not that I necessarily hate the album or anything, but I am really surprised it was a consensus top 400 pick here.

I don't necessarily mind that a good amount of 2011 and 2010 placed. However, I do take issue with many of the specific albums that placed. Especially considering that they're amongst genuine (at least IMO) classics like Roxy Music's s/t, Here Come the Warm Jets, You're Living All Over Me, etc.

Eminem's low placement is one of my favorite results of the poll. I completely agree that he works better for individual songs than for a whole album, where he comes off as obnoxious and grating.

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Amazing to see that, as this forum ages, genetations gaps start to appear

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That said

[411] The Divine Comedy | Promenade | 1994

Who else voted for this underrated masterpiece ?

ALso : grieved by Elvis' low placement 'generation thing ? I understand that the fifties are very long ago)

[399] Wilco | Sky Blue Sky | 2007
No no I was kidding

369] Jacques Brel : great

[359] Fleet Foxes | Helplessness Blues | 2011 : pleasant surprise

Also happy to see Johnny Cash, Supergrass, My Favorite Things, Bob Marley's live, Randy Newman, The Tallest Man On Earth, NWA, New York, Out Of Time (one of my favorite REM albums), and John Cale (even if it didn't make my list)

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Boston and Van Halen's debuts only received two or three other votes! That's sad.

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spotting "Ascension" in the t500 is a remarkable. or a milestone. maybe even both.
we (finally/right now) seem to have a decent amount of jazz connoisseurs on AMF... that's another thumb up on my behalf..

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nicolas
That said

[411] The Divine Comedy | Promenade | 1994

Who else voted for this underrated masterpiece ?



I put it 55th, having seen it on your list. It's only going to go higher though. Really great collection of songs.

I'm probably one of the main culprits of the high number of 2010/2011 albums, though I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It's an accurate reflection on what I feel at the moment. I haven't put any particularly high though.

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Jackson
Georgie
Why is Saturday Night Fever puzzling?


It's not that I necessarily hate the album or anything, but I am really surprised it was a consensus top 400 pick here.

I don't necessarily mind that a good amount of 2011 and 2010 placed. However, I do take issue with many of the specific albums that placed. Especially considering that they're amongst genuine (at least IMO) classics like Roxy Music's s/t, Here Come the Warm Jets, You're Living All Over Me, etc.

Eminem's low placement is one of my favorite results of the poll. I completely agree that he works better for individual songs than for a whole album, where he comes off as obnoxious and grating.


That may just come from there not being a large enough sample size. I'm guessing that the 30 or so ballots may not give an accurate representation with the points scheme. You can also go back to the 2009 voting and see many recent albums stuck in the top 500. Its just comes from memory bias.

Just as a test, I went and looked at Vampire Weekend's Contra, an album that I put on my list. It had 5 votes, with 1 vote in someone's top 50, and 4 others all around the 100-range. It was not like there was a consensus on this album being an all-time classic. It just shows how getting peppered on multiple ballots really effects the rankings. Wait for the top 200 where you will probably need to get on 10+ ballots to show up, the list will feel more "realistic" then.

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Vanillafire1000
Jackson
Georgie
Why is Saturday Night Fever puzzling?


It's not that I necessarily hate the album or anything, but I am really surprised it was a consensus top 400 pick here.

I don't necessarily mind that a good amount of 2011 and 2010 placed. However, I do take issue with many of the specific albums that placed. Especially considering that they're amongst genuine (at least IMO) classics like Roxy Music's s/t, Here Come the Warm Jets, You're Living All Over Me, etc.

Eminem's low placement is one of my favorite results of the poll. I completely agree that he works better for individual songs than for a whole album, where he comes off as obnoxious and grating.


That may just come from there not being a large enough sample size. I'm guessing that the 30 or so ballots may not give an accurate representation with the points scheme. You can also go back to the 2009 voting and see many recent albums stuck in the top 500. Its just comes from memory bias.

Just as a test, I went and looked at Vampire Weekend's Contra, an album that I put on my list. It had 5 votes, with 1 vote in someone's top 50, and 4 others all around the 100-range. It was not like there was a consensus on this album being an all-time classic. It just shows how getting peppered on multiple ballots really effects the rankings. Wait for the top 200 where you will probably need to get on 10+ ballots to show up, the list will feel more "realistic" then.


The Top 50 vote for "Contra" was me (I think). I really do enjoy it -- probably not an all-time classic, but one of my favorite albums despite its flaws, so it's in for me.

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By the way, there were 52 voters in the poll. Should have mentioned that in the OP. Nj, the 4 voters for Ascension were you, me, sonofsamiam, and Kevin. There were definitely some jazz-centric voters, but we're still too Kind of Blue-dependent as a forum.

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[350] XTC | Skylarking | 1986
Points: 480 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 476

[349] Leonard Cohen | I'm Your Man | 1988
Points: 480 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 605

[348] Belle and Sebastian | The Life Pursuit | 2006
Points: 480 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 961

[347] Sigur Rós | Takk... | 2005
Points: 483 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 814



[346] Tricky | Maxinquaye | 1995
Points: 485 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 149

[345] The Beach Boys | The Beach Boys Today! | 1965
Points: 485 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 774

[344] PJ Harvey | Rid of Me | 1993
Points: 487 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 336

[343] The La's | The La's | 1990
Points: 490 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 509

[342] The Band | Music from Big Pink | 1968
Points: 490 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 80
2009 Rank: 129

[341] AC/DC | Back in Black | 1980
Points: 493 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 95
2009 Rank: 200



[340] Eric Dolphy | Out to Lunch! | 1964
Points: 495 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 328

[339] Pavement | Wowee Zowee | 1995
Points: 496 | Votes: 3 AM Rank: 1175

[338] Sufjan Stevens | Michigan | 2003
Points: 500 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 1164

[337] Billy Joel | The Stranger | 1977
Points: 500 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 618

[336] New York Dolls | New York Dolls | 1973
Points: 502 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 136

[335] Elvis Costello and The Attractions | Imperial Bedroom | 1982
Points: 505 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 240

[334] Sleater-Kinney | The Woods | 2005
Points: 506 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 746



[333] Os Mutantes | Os Mutantes | 1968
Points: 506 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 804

[332] The Antlers | Hospice | 2009
Points: 506 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 1074

[331] Prince | Dirty Mind | 1980
Points: 508 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 473

[330] Arctic Monkeys | Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not | 2006
Points: 509 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 165
2009 Rank: 194

[329] Bob Marley | Catch a Fire | 1973
Points: 510 | Votes: 8 AM Rank: 144

[328] Talking Heads | More Songs About Buildings and Food | 1978
Points: 510 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 367

[327] Big Star | Third/Sister Lovers | 1978
Points: 510 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 317

[326] Gorillaz | Demon Days | 2005
Points: 510 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 638

[325] Damien Rice | O | 2002
Points: 512 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 901

[324] Belle and Sebastian | Tigermilk | 1996
Points: 512 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 1146



[323] Minutemen | Double Nickels on the Dime | 1984
Points: 512 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 297

[322] Elton John | Goodbye Yellow Brick Road | 1973
Points: 513 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 132

[321] The Modern Lovers | The Modern Lovers | 1976
Points: 513 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 193

[320] Primal Scream | XTRMNTR | 2000
Points: 514 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 438

[319] Black Sabbath | Paranoid | 1970
Points: 514 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 135



[318] Talk Talk | Spirit of Eden | 1988
Points: 517 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 416

[317] Paul McCartney and Wings | Band on the Run | 1973
Points: 517 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 448

[316] Simon and Garfunkel | Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme | 1966
Points: 518 | Votes: 8 AM Rank: 752

[315] Radiohead | Hail to the Thief | 2003
Points: 518 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 474

[314] Modest Mouse | The Moon & Antarctica | 2000
Points: 518 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 421

[313] Simon and Garfunkel | Bookends | 1968
Points: 520 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 319

[312] Grateful Dead | American Beauty | 1970
Points: 520 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 337

[311] Yo La Tengo | I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One | 1997
Points: 521 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 592

[310] Cat Stevens | Tea for the Tillerman | 1970
Points: 528 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 632



[309] David Bowie | "Heroes" | 1977
Points: 529 | Votes: 8 AM Rank: 224

[308] Queen | A Night at the Opera | 1975
Points: 530 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 134

[307] Coldplay | Parachutes | 2000
Points: 535 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 554

[306] Super Furry Animals | Rings Around the World | 2001
Points: 537 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 1114

[305] Peter Gabriel | So | 1986
Points: 538 | Votes: 7 AM Rank: 214

[304] Steely Dan | Pretzel Logic | 1974
Points: 541 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 292



[303] Miles Davis | In a Silent Way | 1969
Points: 542 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 385

[302] The Smashing Pumpkins | Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness | 1995
Points: 545 | Votes: 5 AM Rank: 264
2009 Rank: 138

[301] Van Morrison | Veedon Fleece
| 1974
Points: 545 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 808
2009 Rank: 186

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Great presentation! The results seem very intriguing, though I'm disappointed from the low positions of Elton John's magnus opus and, especially, " Straight Outta Compton" ( the quintessential masterpiece of the misunderstood music genre it represents, of course along with " It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back"). I'm also surprised from the low ranking of "Master Of Puppets" despite its popularity ( not a great fan of it though). Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the list! Keep up doing so well!

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Sorry for stating the obvious but (just like everybody else) I’m simultaneoulsy happy and sad. Happy because the albums on my list (so far # 469, 456, 447, 445, 444, 440, 423, 422, 419, 406, 400, 395, 388, 386, 385, 378, 369, 357, 356, 350, 329, 318, 313, 306, 304) could get to the final list and sad because I feel that they deserved a higher position.
But obviously my comment could apply to any other voter.
Great presentation, Jackson!

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Vanillafire1000

I'm guessing that the 30 or so ballots may not give an accurate representation with the points scheme.

Wait for the top 200 where you will probably need to get on 10+ ballots to show up, the list will feel more "realistic" then.


"accurate", "realistic" ? I don't really understand.
What is your reference ? The AM top 3000 ?

What's the point to this poll if the results are the same as what we expected ?

No what I find intersting, especially in this area of the list, is that it's got personality. It reflects the tastes of the people here.
70s soft rock, gangsta rap and metal are not favorite genres here (and I regret this), that explains the low rankings outlined by Particle Analyst.
But we also see lesser acclaimed albums that are shared by voters, which means that this forum is useful in its main goal : recommending the music you like to other people

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

nicolas
Vanillafire1000

I'm guessing that the 30 or so ballots may not give an accurate representation with the points scheme.

Wait for the top 200 where you will probably need to get on 10+ ballots to show up, the list will feel more "realistic" then.


"accurate", "realistic" ? I don't really understand.
What is your reference ? The AM top 3000 ?

What's the point to this poll if the results are the same as what we expected ?


I think by "accurate" he means something more like "statistically significant." Most of the albums listed so far are separated by a small amount of points and votes. Most of them wouldn't have made top 500 if they lost their top voter, while the albums in the top 200 are more entrenched and would rank highly again if the sample of voters was slightly different.

That being said, I find the portion of the list presented so far a whole lot more interesting than the upper part of the list.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Evan
The only thing that surprises me about The Marshall Mathers LP is that it was so high in the first place. Eminem's a great rapper, one of the best lyrically and rhythmically, but he makes inconsistent albums. It's as simple as that. He's best served when showing off his rapping ability, like on his verse in Renegade or in Lose Yourself, which works better in just one song than it does throughout an entire album.


That is true, every time I listen to the Marshal Mathers LP I find myself wishing it ended about halfway through. But, I would say the same thing about Archandroid and Illinois, both of which are among my personal faves.

I just hate to see a more talented rapper doing the same thing better lose out to him whose name I will not mention at this time.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Jackson
nicolas
Vanillafire1000

I'm guessing that the 30 or so ballots may not give an accurate representation with the points scheme.

Wait for the top 200 where you will probably need to get on 10+ ballots to show up, the list will feel more "realistic" then.


"accurate", "realistic" ? I don't really understand.
What is your reference ? The AM top 3000 ?

What's the point to this poll if the results are the same as what we expected ?


I think by "accurate" he means something more like "statistically significant." Most of the albums listed so far are separated by a small amount of points and votes. Most of them wouldn't have made top 500 if they lost their top voter, while the albums in the top 200 are more entrenched and would rank highly again if the sample of voters was slightly different.

That being said, I find the portion of the list presented so far a whole lot more interesting than the upper part of the list.


That is what I mean. There were 52 lists for this poll compared to 68 in 2009. With the small sample size, and people putting up different sized lists (most did 200, but some do 50 or 100) it makes it so a small percentage of the voting populace can greatly effect the ranking of any album. Showing up as 200 (the booby prize) on an extra person's list for any of these albums would move it up 50 more spots. Which is partially why there are less hip-hop, jazz, and country albums on the list.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

BillAdama
Evan
The only thing that surprises me about The Marshall Mathers LP is that it was so high in the first place. Eminem's a great rapper, one of the best lyrically and rhythmically, but he makes inconsistent albums. It's as simple as that. He's best served when showing off his rapping ability, like on his verse in Renegade or in Lose Yourself, which works better in just one song than it does throughout an entire album.


That is true, every time I listen to the Marshal Mathers LP I find myself wishing it ended about halfway through. But, I would say the same thing about Archandroid and Illinois, both of which are among my personal faves.

I just hate to see a more talented rapper doing the same thing better lose out to him whose name I will not mention at this time.


You're going to freak when MBDTF breaks into the T100 aren't you?

Great list so far! I like that there are less lists in it this time. There's still enough for concensus, but there will be less uniformity in the results.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Nah, I expect it. I'll just make a snide comment or two.

Hey, he's right, better to be overrated than underpaid. He's better than anyone else at using the internet for mass hypnotism. He got every critic to declare it a masterpiece before hearing it. Critics still can't review the album without talking about his PR stunts and barely referencing the actual music.

Most artists create albums that are good because they sound good. Kanye made one that is good just because it is good.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

In this stretch, 2 albums that were in the low regions of my list : Parsley, Sage... (my number 200) and Michigan at a surprisingly low spot.

I hope Highway To Hell will score better than Back In Black but given the lack of love for AC/DC here, have few illusions.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Jackson[336
New York Dolls | New York Dolls | 1973
Points: 502 | Votes: 4 AM Rank: 136

[304] Steely Dan | Pretzel Logic | 1974
Points: 541 | Votes: 6 AM Rank: 292


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[300] Elliott Smith | From a Basement on the Hill | 2004
Points: 546 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 963



[299] Suicide | Suicide | 1977
Points: 546 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 184


[298] Dusty Springfield | Dusty in Memphis | 1969
Points: 547 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 103
2009 Rank: 123

[297] Bob Dylan | Desire | 1976
Points: 548 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 431
2009 Rank: 169

[296] Liz Phair | Exile in Guyville | 1993
Points: 549 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 253

[295] Tindersticks | Tindersticks | 1993
Points: 550 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 919


[294] Pere Ubu | The Modern Dance | 1978
Points: 554 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 226

[293] Kanye West | Late Registration | 2005
Points: 560 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 419



[292] The Beach Boys | Sunflower | 1970
Points: 567 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 1109

[291] Talking Heads | Talking Heads: 77 | 1977
Points: 570 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 331

[290] Curtis Mayfield | Curtis | 1970
Points: 571 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 471

[289] Deerhunter | Halcyon Digest | 2010
Points: 571 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank:



[288] Tim Buckley | Starsailor | 1970
Points: 572 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 604

[287] The Go-Betweens | 16 Lovers Lane | 1988
Points: 575 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 829

[286] Rod Stewart | Every Picture Tells a Story | 1971
Points: 576 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 159

[285] Prefab Sprout | Steve McQueen/Two Wheels Good | 1985
Points: 581 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 228

[284] Bill Evans | Sunday at the Village Vanguard | 1961
Points: 587 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 496

[283] James Brown | 'Live' at the Apollo | 1963
Points: 590 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 40



[282] T. Rex | Electric Warrior | 1971
Points: 594 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 154

[281] Nas | Illmatic | 1994
Points: 596 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 275
2009 Rank: 189

[280] Elvis Costello | Armed Forces | 1979
Points: 596 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 350
2009 Rank: 190

[279] The Wrens | The Meadowlands | 2003
Points: 598 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 842

[278] Moby | Play | 1999
Points: 598 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 333



[277] Todd Rundgren | Something/Anything? | 1972
Points: 599 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 267

[276] The Cure | The Head on the Door | 1985
Points: 600 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 530

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[299] Suicide | Suicide | 1977
Points: 546 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 184

It was just out of my top 200 (222) but it's a great album in an era (punk) that I generally dislike.


[290] Curtis Mayfield | Curtis | 1970
Points: 571 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 471

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Jackson
we're still too Kind of Blue-dependent as a forum.


yup. there goes my recent citalopram induced enthusiasm...

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

nicolas
[299] Suicide | Suicide | 1977
Points: 546 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 184

[290] Curtis Mayfield | Curtis | 1970
Points: 571 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 471


that's a very serious case of nj comment copyright infringement, mon ami

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I've found the poll lists really helpful and very interesting to read, so thank you for arranging all this Jackson and to everyone who participated. I've found a lot of new material thanks to the diverse taste of members in these forums.

It'll be interesting to see where my favourite artists are represented on this overall list.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

[275] Prince and The Revolution | Parade | 1986
Points: 602 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 607

[274] Joni Mitchell | Hejira | 1976
Points: 604 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 506



[273] Can | Tago Mago | 1971
Points: 605 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 220

[272] The Beatles | Beatles for Sale | 1964
Points: 607 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 972

[271] Madonna | Like a Prayer | 1989
Points: 608 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 364

[270] New Order | Technique | 1989
Points: 610 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 318

[269] Public Enemy | Fear of a Black Planet | 1990
Points: 612 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 143

[268] Eagles | Hotel California | 1976
Points: 613 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 102

[267] The Streets | Original Pirate Material | 2002
Points: 618 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 215



[266] Bruce Springsteen | The River | 1980
Points: 619 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 289

[265] Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band | Trout Mask Replica | 1969
Points: 622 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 54
2009 Poll Rank: 150

[264] Jay-Z | The Blueprint | 2001
Points: 622 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 183



[263] Queens of the Stone Age | Songs for the Deaf | 2002
Points: 622 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 250
2009 Poll Rank: 170

[262] Richard and Linda Thompson | I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight | 1974
Points: 623 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 352
2009 Poll Rank: 184

[261] OutKast | Speakerboxxx/The Love Below | 2003
Points: 624 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 237

[260] LCD Soundsystem | LCD Soundsystem | 2005
Points: 624 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 388



[259] The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Axis: Bold as Love | 1967
Points: 628 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 141

[258] Leonard Cohen | Songs of Love and Hate | 1971
Points: 630 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 415

[257] Scott Walker | Scott 3 | 1969
Points: 631 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 1297



[256] The Mothers of Invention | We're Only in It for the Money | 1968
Points: 633 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 205

[255] Beck | Mutations | 1998
Points: 634 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 755

[254] Guided by Voices | Bee Thousand | 1994
Points: 635 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 590

[253] Aretha Franklin | I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You | 1967
Points: 638 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 81

[252] Gang of Four | Entertainment! | 1979
Points: 652 | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 148



[251] The Who | The Who Sell Out | 1967
Points: 657 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 269

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread



Looks like we've got our "?" covered in this last section.

Also, can anyone explain why Axis: Bold as Love is so much lower than Hendrix's other two big albums? I've always preferred Axis, and I don't see any difference in quality or popularity that would account for a 200+ difference in ranking.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

"Are You Experienced?" is the the studio album that sounds like a greatest hits album, and "Electric Ladyland" is the sprawling artistic monument. "Axis: Bold As Love" is just the odd man out.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I'm very surprised that only 7 people voted for Illmatic. Have people simply just not heard it? When ever I have it playing even casual hip-hop fans comment on how incredible it is.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

SR
I'm very surprised that only 7 people voted for Illmatic. Have people simply just not heard it? When ever I have it playing even casual hip-hop fans comment on how incredible it is.


As perhaps the eldest of the voters, my affection for hip-hop is extremely limited. Nas is not even one of my favorite hip-hop artists. I found most of the songs on Illmatic unappealing. The least objectionable to my ears were: Life's A Bitch and N.Y State of Mind. In the middle ground there was: One Time 4 Your Mind, It Ain't Hard to Tell, and Memory Lane. I am somewhat interested in understanding the aspects of the songs on this album that you and others find appealing. Then, I might be tempted to give these songs more than one half listen every 3 years.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I'll attempt to explain my love for "Illmatic".

1. The album perfectly captures the zeitgeist of early 90's east coast hip-hop.

2. The album's production is really minimalist and uses a variety of different instrumentation successfully (a piano on "NY State of Mind", the saxophone on "Life's a Bitch", the xylophone on "One Love", etc.)

3. The album's minimalist production leaves the album uncrowded and gives Nas's rapping a lot of room to breathe. Nas not only has a great flow, but he's a great lyricist, and above all, a great storyteller.

Case in point-

"I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever niggaz talk shit
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggaz be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin niggaz one ran, I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze heard it click yo, my shit is stuck
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
and it was filled with children probably couldn't see as high as I be."

- "NY State of Mind"

4. The album capture's the bleakness of living in the projects, but instead of celebrating the so called "gangsta" lifestyle, Nas remains rather optimistic throughout the album, even when he's being totally realistic about the world around him.

5. It's incredibly concise. Not a second is wasted.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

No love for Aretha Franklin either? LCD Soundsystem's and '00s' finest hour out of the top 200?

Anyway, happy to see some appreciation for the somewhat underrated "Parade" and " Trout Mask Replica" not in a Top 100, in contrast with most of the critics' lists out there.

I wonder what's gonna be the first Rolling Stones record we are going to see in this countdown.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Very cool list so far! Lots of quirky picks and unexpected results. The only thing that disappoints me so far is the high placement of Coldplay relative to their AM places, which is frankly quite disgusting.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Thanks Jackson !

to nj : yes indeed (i hadn't noticed)

more of my favorites in this section

Tago Mago : I didn't ranked it cause I haven't heard it for ages, but it's a great album

Hotel California (my #145) : not a bad ranking for a soft rock album here in this forum. It was my fav album when I was 13 and I still like this great collection of songs.

Original Pirate Material (158) : I love the Streets; a fantastic story teller that chose rap and garage electro. This music is typically british and very exotic to me (the UK is always very exotic for a Frenchman )

The River (75) : another of my teenage favorites. It's the first Bruce record I've heard. My older sister had bought it, and I remember being very impressed by the second side of the first record. I love those double albums where artists put all their songs; it's like a garage sell.

Songs For The Deaf (194): a very solid rock album from the 2000s. Diverse, powerful, playful.

Speakerboxx/The Love Below (9 : garage sell in Atlanta

Axis : Bold As Love (106) :all 3 Jimi albums are on my list, with Electric Ladyland at the highest position. I have to admit that Axis is the lowest, probably because, despite its great quality (and Little Wing), it doesn't feature such classics as Hey Joe, Foxy Lady, Purple Haze.

Mutations (82) :My favorite Beck album. His own "Sky Blue Sky". You know my love for direct, straightforward songwriting. Beck can make wonderful natural songs, without noise and bizarreness. Picasso was a great classic painter too.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Thanks Jackson !

to nj : yes indeed (i hadn't noticed)

more of my favorites in this section

Tago Mago : I didn't ranked it cause I haven't heard it for ages, but it's a great album

Hotel California (my #145) : not a bad ranking for a soft rock album here in this forum. It was my fav album when I was 13 and I still like this great collection of songs.

Original Pirate Material 158 : I love the Streets; a fantastic story teller that chose rap and garage electro. This music is typically british and very exotic to me (the UK is always very exotic for a Frenchman )

The River (75) : another of my teenage favorites. It's the first Bruce record I've heard. My older sister had bought it, and I remember being very impressed by the second side of the first record. I love those double albums where artists put all their songs; it's like a garage sell.

Songs For The Deaf (194): a very solid rock album from the 2000s. Diverse, powerful, playful.

Speakerboxx/The Love Below 98: garage sell in Atlanta

Axis : Bold As Love (106) :all 3 Jimi albums are on my list, with Electric Ladyland at the highest position. I have to admit that Axis is the lowest, probably because, despite its great quality (and Little Wing), it doesn't feature such classics as Hey Joe, Foxy Lady, Purple Haze.

Mutations (82) :My favorite Beck album. His own "Sky Blue Sky". You know my love for direct, straightforward songwriting. Beck can make wonderful natural songs, without noise and bizarreness. Picasso was a great classic painter too.

PS : I'm not very surprised by the relatively low ranking of those albums, and sometimes pleasantly surprised (especially for Mutations).

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

nicolas
Mutations (82) :My favorite Beck album. His own "Sky Blue Sky". You know my love for direct, straightforward songwriting. Beck can make wonderful natural songs, without noise and bizarreness. Picasso was a great classic painter too.
How about Sea Change?

By the way, I really would've expected Curtis to finish higher. People need to check out that album! Let's hope the incredible Superfly makes it a lot further.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I'm not very familiar with Sea change, must have heard it once or twice, but I gotta check it out again, there's a fantastic song in this album : "Lost Cause".
I bought mutations in 1998 when I was well into indie rock, and it became a companion. When Sea Change came out I bought it as well, but I was in my country/blues years and didn't pay much attention.
It's probably the same with you guys : many albums that are high on my list had a strong effect on my personal life. Some were there at the right place and time.
The order in which you listen to an artist's albums matters sometimes too : I really got into Beck after hearing Mutations; sometimes the first cut is the deepest.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I'm glad to see Starsailor show up at 288, but it would have been even more awesome if it cracked the top 200. (Of course, it was my #4, so without my vote it would have been much lower.)

Blueprint, another rap album that's surprisingly low.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Nick
I'll attempt to explain my love for "Illmatic".



I had Illmatic in my top 50, as the 2nd highest hip-hop album on my list. Its a wonderbul combination of the gangsta rap of the early 90s with the jazz-influenced stuff that popped up. Its in the dark, gritty style similar to the Wu-Tang, almost completely out of tune to the Sean Combs, Bad Boy stuff. It is THE album of underground hip-hop. ?uestlove did an interview with Pitchfork recently that mentioned it.

?uestlove
The ideology of what I considered "real" hip-hop died at the 1995 Source Awards. I was literally at its funeral-- I sat three rows behind Nas. In the audience, the Bad Boy camp was on the far right, all the West Coast and the Southern rappers were in the middle, and on the far left were all the New York underground rappers like Wu-Tang, Mobb Deep, Nas, Busta Rhymes, and us. That was the day when Suge called out Puffy, and there were fights in the audience. I felt like a bomb was going to detonate.

Nas' body language that day told the whole story of where we were about to go. The more he got ignored for Illmatic, I literally saw his body melt in his seat. Almost like he was ashamed. He just looked so defeated. I was like, "Yo, he's not gonna be the same after this shit." None of us were the same after that day. I feel like the true underground lost its oxygen that night.


Its the pinnacle of a genre and a movement that got swallowed up and spit out by the corporate music structure. Its an all-killer-no-filler album that just throws BOMBS at you. There is no skit bloat that plagues so many. Every track has a killer hook, every beats are insane. I still get chills from the intro to NY State of Mind. You cannot get any better.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Lots of great albums in that section! Choice pick being We're Only In It For The Money. Its weirdness may put some off, but I find it absolutely enthralling.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I will be pleasantly shocked if summerteeth made it.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

This part of the list is intersting because you can see some albums that were one or 2 guys' favorites, like Starsailor for BillAdama or Promenade for me. I really like Tim Buckley, but I've only heard the first 2 albums (the 1st one almost made my top 200). Jeff's vocal and physical resemblance with his father is striking. And they hardly ever met !

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

[250] Buena Vista Social Club | Buena Vista Social Club | 1997
Points: 659 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 404

[249] Pearl Jam | Ten | 1991
Points: 661 | Votes: 5 | AM Rank: 140
2009 Poll Rank: 142

[248] Fever Ray | Fever Ray | 2009
Points: 671 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 719



[247] The Millennium | Begin | 1968
Points: 672 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 1776

[246] R.E.M. | Life's Rich Pageant | 1986
Points: 680 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 703

[245] George Harrison | All Things Must Pass | 1970
Points: 681 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 324

[244] Pink Floyd | The Piper at the Gates of Dawn | 1967
Points: 687 | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 99
2009 Poll Rank: 168

[243] R.E.M. | Document | 1987
Points: 693 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 378



[242] Björk | Vespertine | 2001
Points: 693 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 401

[241] A Tribe Called Quest | The Low End Theory | 1991
Points: 694 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 245

[240] Bon Iver | For Emma, Forever Ago | 2007
Points: 696 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 308

[239] Violent Femmes | Violent Femmes | 1982
Points: 696 | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 332

[238] Kraftwerk | Computerwelt | 1981
Points: 707 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 467

[237] LCD Soundsystem | This Is Happening | 2010
Points: 717 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank:



[236] The XX | XX | 2009
Points: 718 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 437

[235] David Bowie | Station to Station | 1976
Points: 718 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 281
2009 Poll Rank: 139

[234] Charles Mingus | Mingus Ah Um | 1959
Points: 721 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 410



[233] Wire | Pink Flag | 1977
Points: 721 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 241
2009 Poll Rank: 180

[232] M.I.A. | Kala | 2007
Points: 725 | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 265

[231] Michael Jackson | Off the Wall | 1979
Points: 737 | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 104
2009 Poll Rank: 160

[230] Funkadelic | Maggot Brain | 1971
Points: 742 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 425



[229] Slint | Spiderland | 1991
Points: 750 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 294
2009 Poll Rank: 176

[228] Björk | Post | 1995
Points: 751 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 274

[227] Spiritualized | Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space | 1997
Points: 753 | Votes: 6 | AM Rank: 277
2009 Poll Rank: 185



[226] Iggy and The Stooges | Raw Power | 1973
Points: 759 | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 90

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Some absolutely fantastic albums in that last round. I'm mixed between excitement that many of these made top 250 and disappointment that some declined from their showing last time (particularly Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space and Spiderland, two of the 10 best albums of the 90s in my opinion).

I'm sure everyone will have something they like in that section. The Millennium followed up its surprise top 50 placement in the 60s poll with another great showing here. Also A Tribe Called Quest and Charles Mingus give great entries for hip-hop and jazz.

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Jackson

[242] Björk | Vespertine | 2001
Points: 693 | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 401

[228] Björk | Post | 1995
Points: 751 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 274


Aww, my favourite Björk album by a considerable margin was the first to show up on the overall list. Vespertine is such a coherent and beautifully personal record; in comparison to her previous records whereby the concept was more about a collection of diverse songs (Debut, Post).

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I love The XX's cover art. Just as minimalist and understated as the actual music.

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[250] Buena Vista Social Club | Buena Vista Social Club | 1997
Points: 659 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 404

My # 65 : I love this album, the songs are fabulous. My list featured 2 solo albums by Eliades Ochoa and Compay Segundo (that I knew before Buena Vista came out). It's good to have non English speaking records every now and then. Some great great music is also recorded and made out of the Anglo saxon world. Sometimes I wish these list reflected a little more the music from other countries.



[241] A Tribe Called Quest | The Low End Theory | 1991
Points: 694 | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 245

Good news ! I have voted for their 1990 album but I'm glad they're this high.


[234] Charles Mingus | Mingus Ah Um | 1959
Points: 721 | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 410

(my number 130)What a fabulous artist Mingus was. Adventurous but always close to his roots, and very passionate in everything he recorded.


[231] Michael Jackson | Off the Wall | 1979
Points: 737 | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 104
2009 Poll Rank: 160
(my nb 74)To me it beats Thriller in terms of music. But in terms of memory and importance Thriller is best.

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For me, I think Thriller has the best couple songs between the two, but Off The Wall is more even and consistent. Overall I'd put Off The Wall a bit higher.

Fever Ray is a surprise. Makes me think Silent Shout has a shot at cracking the top 100.

I wonder if The Knife will ever release another non-soundtrack album.

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That 250-226 section is fantastic.

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Glad I haven't spotted THE AGE OF ADZ yet. Crossing fingers for a strong finish. Great list so far. Lots of Suprises!

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I might as well respond to the "Axis: Bold as Love" question, given it was in my top 20.
Hendrix was a genius. That album would have been even better Jimi not left the original tapes in the back of a cab. It's a great album, definitely underaprreciated.
Also, Jackson, was there any album in AM's top 100 that did not make top 500 (the lowest I was, surprisingly, was Live at the Apollo, not TMR)?

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Listyguy
I might as well respond to the "Axis: Bold as Love" question, given it was in my top 20.
Hendrix was a genius. That album would have been even better Jimi not left the original tapes in the back of a cab. It's a great album, definitely underaprreciated.
Also, Jackson, was there any album in AM's top 100 that did not make top 500 (the lowest I was, surprisingly, was Live at the Apollo, not TMR)?


The highest ranked album outside of our top 500 was Dr. Dre's The Chronic, which (thankfully) only got two votes and didn't even make our top 1000.

And to me, Axis definitely has some of Jimi's standout songs. "Spanish Castle Magic," "Little Wing," and most of all "Bold As Love" are right up with there from the best of the other two albums. I definitely see why it might be ranked third of the three, I feel like it should be a close third.

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Jackson

[234] Charles Mingus | Mingus Ah Um | 1959


I only discovered jazz music from the 50s and 60s earlier this year and was pleasantly surprised to realize how much I liked it. Mingus Ah Um was the album that made an emotional connection with jazz click into place for me, and at #5 in my all-time list it is my favourite of the genre. 20 other jazz albums (whether instrumental or vocal) made my top 200, including The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. But in my personal musical landscape this 1959 gem from the great Charles Mingus is the definitive jazz album.

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[225] Hüsker Dü | Zen Arcade | 1984
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 204

[224] Neil Young | Tonight's the Night | 1975
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 142
2009 Poll Rank: 163

[223] Tom Waits | Bone Machine | 1992
Points: | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 557



[222] Scott Walker | Scott 4 | 1969
Points: | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 412

[221] Dave Brubeck Quartet | Time Out | 1959
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 313

[220] The Shins | Chutes Too Narrow | 2003
Points: | Votes: 12 | AM Rank: 403
2009 Poll Rank: 179

[219] Radiohead | Amnesiac | 2001
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 387

[218] Coldplay | A Rush of Blood to the Head | 2002
Points: | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 299
2009 Poll Rank: 199



[217] King Crimson | Red | 1974
Points: | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 666

[216] Weezer | Pinkerton | 1996
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 547



[215] Joanna Newsom | Ys | 2006
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 271

[214] Franz Ferdinand | Franz Ferdinand | 2004
Points: | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 206
2009 Poll Rank: 165

[213] Wu-Tang Clan | Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) | 1993
Points: | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 158
2009 Poll Rank: 174



[212] Joni Mitchell | The Hissing of Summer Lawns | 1975
Points: | Votes: 7 | AM Rank: 525

[211] DJ Shadow | Endtroducing... | 1996
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 91
2009 Poll Rank: 164

[210] Massive Attack | Blue Lines | 1991
Points: | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 32
2009 Poll Rank: 121

[209] Air | Moon Safari | 1998
Points: | Votes: 13 | AM Rank: 147

[208] The Beatles | A Hard Day's Night | 1964
Points: | Votes: 12 | AM Rank: 182
2009 Poll Rank: 182



[207] Miles Davis | Bitches Brew | 1970
Points: | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 88

[206] Big Star | Radio City | 1974
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 343



[205] Weezer | Weezer (The Blue Album) | 1994
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 457

[204] Bruce Springsteen | The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle | 1973
Points: | Votes: 8 | AM Rank: 826

[203] Derek and The Dominos | Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs | 1970
Points: | Votes: 9 | AM Rank: 75
2009 Poll Rank: 159

[202] Big Star | #1 Record | 1972
Points: | Votes: 10 | AM Rank: 465
2009 Poll Rank: 173



[201] Led Zeppelin | Houses of the Holy | 1973Points: | Votes: 11 | AM Rank: 520

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

So...for those keeping track, 30 of the top 200 albums from last time have fallen out, the highest-ranked being Blue Lines, which was #121 in '09.

It looks like 4 (maybe 5) of the 30 new entries will be 2010 albums. I'm wondering if any 2011 releases will show up in the top 200; I can think of two that might.

Great job so far, Jackson. Can't wait to see the rest.

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I wonder if Weezer's classics would be higher if they stopped making music after Pinkerton. Not that I'd want that since a lot of people still love their music, but if they were a two album band I bet one or both of those albums would be top 100.

I haven't chimed in yet- A lot of my top 100 has already been revealed. I can't complain if something hit the top 500 but here are a few I think should be a lot higher:

Paul Simon: There Goes Rhymin' Simon- The second best album Simon made after Bridge Over Troubled Water.

Beck: Mutations- Odelay holds a special place in my heart as well, but like Nicolas said, this is his best.

Paul McCartney: Ram- In many cases McCartney's solo work is justifiably overlooked and I think that's why not many people have given Ram a chance. But, it's a fantastic album, easily my favorite Beatles solo album.

There are a few more I could comment on, but I can understand why those can fall down to the 300-500 range. But, I definitely needed to speak my piece on the three above!

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

Vanillafire1000
Nick
I'll attempt to explain my love for "Illmatic".



I had Illmatic in my top 50, as the 2nd highest hip-hop album on my list. Its a wonderbul combination of the gangsta rap of the early 90s with the jazz-influenced stuff that popped up. Its in the dark, gritty style similar to the Wu-Tang, almost completely out of tune to the Sean Combs, Bad Boy stuff. It is THE album of underground hip-hop. ?uestlove did an interview with Pitchfork recently that mentioned it.

?uestlove
The ideology of what I considered "real" hip-hop died at the 1995 Source Awards. I was literally at its funeral-- I sat three rows behind Nas. In the audience, the Bad Boy camp was on the far right, all the West Coast and the Southern rappers were in the middle, and on the far left were all the New York underground rappers like Wu-Tang, Mobb Deep, Nas, Busta Rhymes, and us. That was the day when Suge called out Puffy, and there were fights in the audience. I felt like a bomb was going to detonate.

Nas' body language that day told the whole story of where we were about to go. The more he got ignored for Illmatic, I literally saw his body melt in his seat. Almost like he was ashamed. He just looked so defeated. I was like, "Yo, he's not gonna be the same after this shit." None of us were the same after that day. I feel like the true underground lost its oxygen that night.


Its the pinnacle of a genre and a movement that got swallowed up and spit out by the corporate music structure. Its an all-killer-no-filler album that just throws BOMBS at you. There is no skit bloat that plagues so many. Every track has a killer hook, every beats are insane. I still get chills from the intro to NY State of Mind. You cannot get any better.


Illmatic is an album that engenders respect, but no love from me. And I think it's that gritty style that I find so relentless, for both good and bad, about this album. I know there's play in the words and the rhymes, but hell if you'd know it from his delivery, which is relentlessly rat-a-tat. Any sense of play is missing from the MUSIC. (I am woefully unknowledgable about Wu Tang Clan, but my sense of them from what I have heard is they have slightly more play to their delivery... probably helped by the fact that you have many different rappers' styles butting against one another in every track.)

Compare this to my favorite rap album that is outside of the top 200 (and, aside from Spoon's Gimme Fiction, my highest ranked album that is likely to be outside the top-200): The Low End Theory. (Which, by the way, was released the same day as Nevermind, and is far more deserving of having its 20th anniversary celebrated.) I've said before how fun is an entirely underrated virtue in music. Some critics get it.... more pay it lip service, and then gravitate to [use portentious voice] "very serious albums" when it comes time to laud masterpieces or draw up their lists. Well, Low End Theory is fun... lyrically and musically. The interplay between Phife and Tip, the beautiful jazzy groove of the beats, Busta Rhymes roaring like a "dungeon dragon" on that fantastic posse track closer. It's musical as hell and entertaining as hell.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

I'm surprised Tonight's The Night didn't do better. I think Neil Young's depressive phase is his best.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

BillAdama
I'm surprised Tonight's The Night didn't do better. I think Neil Young's depressive phase is his best.


I voted for Tonight's the Night as my 12th favourite album. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it's outside the top 200.

What I find just as perplexing is how low Joni Mitchell's albums are (despite the improvement from their AM scores). Joni Mitchell is a genius and strictly speaking one of the few true originators of our time. Formally self-described as a composer (or painter), I'd feel more comfortable placing Joni side-by-side to famous classical composers than works by Joanna Newsom! If "Blue" (my number #1 album) doesn't even make the Top 100, I'll be geniunely quite disappointed.

Re: 2011 AMF All-Time Albums Poll Results Thread

On The Beach was my top Neil Young album, but Tonight's the Night is a beast as well. Those two are head and shoulders above Harvest and quite a bit better than After the Gold Rush.

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I'd bet you'd dislike Harvest. It's a great album, though. Superb songs and arrangements. But way uncool for 21st centrury hipsters. Not dark enough ? Dad's music ? Lol

There were 6 NY albums in my top 200

1. After The Goldrush
2. Harvest
3. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
4. Zuma
5. Tonight's The Night
6. Rust Never Sleeps

On the Beach has a cool cover, but it's a minor album IMO. On The Beach is a lesser known album so it's cool to say you like it ?
I'm kidding guys.

PS : I could have put Tonight's The Night above Zuma (they were #111 and #115).

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On The Beach is my favorite Neil Young, followed by Tonight's The Night. After The Gold Rush is pretty close to those two, though.

It's not that I dislike Harvest, so much as whereas all of Young's other critically acclaimed albums really stand out, Harvest is just kind of good craftsmanship with riskless songwriting. Hey, kind of like... (Not going there)

But no, I like Harvest. I'd put it in my top 1000. It's somewhere below Freedom and Ragged Glory, and just higher than his album from last year.

The only reason On The Beach isn't as acclaimed as other Neil Young albums is that it took the longest to be released on CD, which it did because Neil Young vetoed the CD release until he was happy with the mix.

Hrm, speaking of which, On The Beach is either outside the top 500 or in the top 200. It can't have gotten less than five votes, could it? I think I put it in my top 20.

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My Top 5 Young albums:
1. After the Gold Rush
2. Rust Never Sleeps
3. Tonight's the Night
4. Harvest
5. Comes a Time (an underated gem in my opinion that also can be filed under the "kind of good craftsmanship with riskless songwriting" section)

Only the first three are in my Top 200 but I've included instead 2 other albums with strong Young involvement: "Déjà vu" (even more uncool than "Harvest") and "Buffalo Springfield Again"

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I voted for "On the Beach" as #34, so it would be nice to see it made the list. The problem I had with "Harvest" in particular was the fact it didn't leave any lasting appeal (although it was the first Neil Young album to be introduced to me). It's an "okay" album with some nice songs but I just don't "feel" it like "After the Goldrush" or "Tonight's the Night". The latter left such a huge impact on me and it's very hard to ignore the exposed grief on that album.

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I find (sadly) surprising the fall on the appreciation of Massive Attack's "Blue Lines". From 121 to 210? Why, oh why?

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Honorio
I find (sadly) surprising the fall on the appreciation of Massive Attack's "Blue Lines". From 121 to 210? Why, oh why?


I don't think its production sounds as modern as Mezzanine's. Even though "Unfinished Sympathy" is in my top 50 songs, I've never cared much for Blue Lines. The rest of the album doesn't really stand up to that masterpiece. Mezzanine is more consistent.

I think On the Beach is definitely the best Neil Young album I've heard, though Rust Never Sleeps might have something to say about that. I love the sprawl of the title track and "Ambulance Blues," the latter of which is Young's "Desolation Row."

And Stephen, I definitely don't think you should be disappointed at how Joni Mitchell performed in this poll, trust me.

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nicolas
I'd bet you'd dislike Harvest. It's a great album, though. Superb songs and arrangements. But way uncool for 21st centrury hipsters. Not dark enough ? Dad's music ? Lol

There were 6 NY albums in my top 200

1. After The Goldrush
2. Harvest
3. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
4. Zuma
5. Tonight's The Night
6. Rust Never Sleeps

On the Beach has a cool cover, but it's a minor album IMO. On The Beach is a lesser known album so it's cool to say you like it ?
I'm kidding guys.

PS : I could have put Tonight's The Night above Zuma (they were #111 and #115).


Many now consider On the Beach Neil's masterwork, and not because it's "lesser known" and cool. Because it has great music that is stripped down and emotional.

It's one of his most cohesive works, every song is good, "Ambulance Blues" is possibly his best song ever.


Personally for me with Neil:

1. On The Beach
2. Tonight's the Night
3. Rust Never Sleeps
4. Everybody Knows This is Nowhere
5. After the Gold Rush
6. Zuma
7. Ragged Glory
8. Harvest


I think Harvest is pretty inconsistent. One song that I often see cited as a top Harvest song "A Man Needs a Maid", I consider one of Neil's worst outings; I find the lyric bone-headed, and the over the top arrangement underscores that fact.

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Jackson
Honorio
I find (sadly) surprising the fall on the appreciation of Massive Attack's "Blue Lines". From 121 to 210? Why, oh why?


I don't think its production sounds as modern as Mezzanine's. Even though "Unfinished Sympathy" is in my top 50 songs, I've never cared much for Blue Lines. The rest of the album doesn't really stand up to that masterpiece. Mezzanine is more consistent.



I know Blue Lines is a historically important album, but I think it's kind of inconsistent. "Unfinished Sympathy" is haunting, and "Hymn for the Big Wheel" and "Safe From Harm", but there's a lot of filler. Most of the lyrics also come across as kind of shallow and silly, but maybe I'm not supposed to care about Massive Attack's lyrics.

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Honorio

5. Comes a Time (an underated gem in my opinion that also can be filed under the "kind of good craftsmanship with riskless songwriting" section)


Tu quoque mi fili...
Craftmanship, riskless songwriting ? I don't get taht (though i see what you mean) But country music and blues are craftmanship, noble popular craftmanship, when people didn' care if they were taking risks or not. What a strange notion in popular music...
Harvest is a fantastic country album.
I've just heard some songs from On The Beach. Fucking great songs there too. "Turnstiles", "See The Sky...". I'll have to hear it again.
I love depressed Neil Young too, but I was first introduced to Goldrush and Harvest in the late eighties and it was such a shock, a positive shock to hear this in 1988 during the worst era of music
What I love in NY (and Wilco too) is that they can make simple, "riskless" (lol) albums AND darker, less accessible stuff, but they don't make any differnece or hierarchy between them.

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nicolas
Honorio

5. Comes a Time (an underated gem in my opinion that also can be filed under the "kind of good craftsmanship with riskless songwriting" section)


Tu quoque mi fili...
Craftmanship, riskless songwriting ? I don't get taht (though i see what you mean) But country music and blues are craftmanship, noble popular craftmanship, when people didn' care if they were taking risks or not. What a strange notion in popular music...
Harvest is a fantastic country album.
I've just heard some songs from On The Beach. Fucking great songs there too. "Turnstiles", "See The Sky...". I'll have to hear it again.
I love depressed Neil Young too, but I was first introduced to Goldrush and Harvest in the late eighties and it was such a shock, a positive shock to hear this in 1988 during the worst era of music
What I love in NY (and Wilco too) is that they can make simple, "riskless" (lol) albums AND darker, less accessible stuff, but they don't make any differnece or hierarchy between them.


To me it's not all about "risk". Harvest is spotty. I love certain songs on the album, but I don't think it is very coherent.

In the case of Sky Blue Sky, I just think it's one of Tweedy's poorest songwriting showings, with one or two great songs, a couple of half good ones, and a bunch of stinkers.

For the record, I love The Band, I love Gram Parsons, I love The Grateful Dead's early 70s albums, I love After the Gold Rush, I love Nick Drake, I love the Fairport Convention. The fact that I don't like certain "pure" albums, doesn't mean I hate it all.

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I'm a bit harsh on you guys because I remember this argument "Harvest vs. the rest of Neil Young" was still raging 25 years ago in musical mags. And I was already very upset because i really love that record : "Out On The Weekend", "Old Man", "Harvest", "Alabama", "THe Needle", Man Needs A Maid" . All classics. Fantastic songs

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