Vote for the winners, results posted tomorrow:
#1 The Beatles vs. #2 Johnny Cash
#1 The Velvet Underground vs. #2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin vs. #2 Bob Marley
#1 David Bowie vs. #2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones vs. #2 Marvin Gaye
#1 Jimi Hendrix vs. #3 The Kinks vs. #2 Elvis Presley
#1 Stevie Wonder vs. #2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan vs. #2 James Brown
#2 Johnny Cash: No chance he wins, but whatevs.
#1 The Velvet Underground: Beatles vs. Who in the next round would be a nightmare scenario for me.
#2 Bob Marley: Yuck.
#1 David Bowie: The shining beacon of this quarter of the bracket.
#2 Marvin Gaye: He's no Otis Redding, but I like Marvin ok.
#3 The Kinks: Tough call between these guys and Jimi.
#1 Stevie Wonder: The shining beacon of the bottom half here.
#2 James Brown: We want the funk.
#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground - Hardest call of the day.
#1 Led Zeppelin - I am on a major Houses of the Holy kick right now. I don't know why, but it's hitting my pleasure center hard.
#1 David Bowie - Closer call for me than in years past, with my love for Young growing. But Bowie has a greater ability to surprise.
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#1 Stevie Wonder - Blow out of the day.
#1 Bob Dylan - It hurts to vote against Brown... but Dylan is greater.
#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who : only match-up were I hesitate
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan : no, I don't hate Dylan, I really enjoy most of Highway 61 Revisited and many other songs. I'm just bored by some that I find musically empty and overlong, Tangled Up In Blue being the first that would come to mind but Desolation Row and Visions of Johanna are other examples. Still, the songs I love (I want You, Highway 61, Subterrean Homesick Blues, The Times They are a-changin', Hurricane (ok, this one is overlong too, but sounds great) are enough to top James.
#2 Johnny Cash (from this point on The Beatles are probably my least favorite act in this whole section)
#2 The Who (and I'm not sure if I like this division by decade. I'm having to vote off one of my top 10 act here and then chose between Madonna and Run-D.M.C. in another round, two artists not even in my top 100)
#2 Bob Marley
#2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks (Here's to hoping Jimi and Elvis split the email vote enough for the band with easily the best songwriting to win)
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan
When I first saw all these #1 and #2 seeds for the 50s/60s region, I figured it’s because enough time has passed that consensus was pretty solid for that era.
However, then I looked at the other regions…
50s/60s: Average seed 1.59. All #1 and #2 seeds made it, plus one #3 (Kinks).
70s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (Al Green over Joy Division).
80s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (RHCP over Pet Shop Boys).
90s/00s: Average seed 1.88. Three #3 seeds (PJ Harvey, Portishead, and Kanye West) and one #4 (Gorillaz) made it.
Of the 32 #1 seeds, 31 have advanced. The only exception is Björk.
And guess what? I’m voting for seven of today’s eight #1 seeds.
THE BEATLES. Johnny Cash is an absolute titan, and if I ranked today’s 17 artists, he’d be in the top 8. But he got a brutal draw. The Beatles are the Beatles.
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND. The Who have gone way, way up in my estimation in the last couple of years. But the Velvet Underground is the wellspring of almost all the music that resonates deeply with me. Reluctantly, I must show Mr. Townshend the door.
LED ZEPPELIN. Yeah, I’m surprised I’m voting for them again too.
DAVID BOWIE. My feelings about this one are similar to the VU/Who matchup. It’s truly too bad that Neil’s run has to end here. But it does – for me, Bowie is close to being the only artist who really matters between Hunky Dory and Low.
THE ROLLING STONES. As with last round’s Stones/Buddy Holly matchup, this is another nailbiter. Mick & Keef squeak past Marvin on the basis of body of work.
THE KINKS. I could go around and around with these three artists, but I’ll eliminate Elvis since I voted against him last round. And right now, I’m just digging the Kinks a lot more than Jimi.
STEVIE WONDER. Still surprised the Beach Boys weren’t a #1 seed, but I happen to think the UMT seedings have these two artists in the right order.
From this round I plan to present my winner like Stephan does in moderately, unless it complicates the counting for you Slick.
#1 The Beatles #2 Bob Marley #1 David Bowie #1 Stevie Wonder #2 Marvin Gaye
#1 The Rolling Stones
#2 Neil Young #1 Bob Dylan
#2 James Brown
#2 The Beach Boys #1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 Johnny Cash #1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 Elvis Presley
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Who
When I first saw all these #1 and #2 seeds for the 50s/60s region, I figured it’s because enough time has passed that consensus was pretty solid for that era.
However, then I looked at the other regions…
50s/60s: Average seed 1.59. All #1 and #2 seeds made it, plus one #3 (Kinks).
70s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (Al Green over Joy Division).
80s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (RHCP over Pet Shop Boys).
90s/00s: Average seed 1.88. Three #3 seeds (PJ Harvey, Portishead, and Kanye West) and one #4 (Gorillaz) made it.
Of the 32 #1 seeds, 31 have advanced. The only exception is Björk.
And guess what? I’m voting for seven of today’s eight #1 seeds.
I was noticing that too. What it tells me is the formula used to seed these artists were fairly accurate. (Last Years UMT results, AM Ranking & top 100 artist lists).
From this round I plan to present my winner like Stephan does in moderately, unless it complicates the counting for you Slick.
#1 The Beatles #2 Bob Marley #1 David Bowie #1 Stevie Wonder #2 Marvin Gaye
#1 The Rolling Stones
#2 Neil Young #1 Bob Dylan
#2 James Brown
#2 The Beach Boys #1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 Johnny Cash #1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 Elvis Presley
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Who
#2 The Who (and I'm not sure if I like this division by decade. I'm having to vote off one of my top 10 act here and then chose between Madonna and Run-D.M.C. in another round, two artists not even in my top 100)
The 2012 version will be completely different than the division by decade.
#1 The Beatles The most easy choice of the day.
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie The second easy choice of the day
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder The third.
#2 James Brown And the fourth.
P.S. : I tried to listen Dylan all the night, and I was able to love two songs : Lay Lady Lay and Hurricane.
But apparently, it's not songs with a huge love here.
Hurricane is definitely one of my favorites. The whole album I think is slightly underrated. Not quite as good as Blood on the Tracks, but very good nonetheless.
#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#2 Marvin Gaye
#3 The Kinks
#1 Stevie Wonder (agonizing choice 1)
#1 Bob Dylan (agonizing choice 2)
Hurricane is definitely one of my favorites. The whole album I think is slightly underrated. Not quite as good as Blood on the Tracks, but very good nonetheless.
I think Blood on the Tracks was likely Dylan's most consistently excellent effort.
I wonder why Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts is overlooked by so many listeners. It's my favorite on the Album.
Hurricane and Lay Lady Lay are exeptional in that Dylan's voice isn't nearly as gravelly on these songs as it usually is.
#1 The Beatles #1 Bob Dylan #1 Led Zeppelin #2 The Who #2 Marvin Gaye
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 The Velvet Underground #1 David Bowie
#2 Neil Young #2 The Beach Boys #3 The Kinks
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 Elvis Presley
#1 Stevie Wonder
#2 Bob Marley
#2 Johnny Cash
#2 James Brown
And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.
Really? The hatred goes so deep that you would rank The Who below Nickelback and the dozens of similar bands despite the obvious instrumental prowess of, say, Keith Moon, one of the all-time great drummers?
And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.
Really? The hatred goes so deep that you would rank The Who below Nickelback and the dozens of similar bands despite the obvious instrumental prowess of, say, Keith Moon, one of the all-time great drummers?
Not to mention their innovative use of one of Moonbeam's favourite instruments,the Synthesizer...
And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.
Really? The hatred goes so deep that you would rank The Who below Nickelback and the dozens of similar bands despite the obvious instrumental prowess of, say, Keith Moon, one of the all-time great drummers?
Not to mention their innovative use of one of Moonbeam's favourite instruments,the Synthesizer...
It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious
It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious
Disdain is fine, he simply doesn't like the sound. But to put them among the bottom 25 seems a little overboard.
Don't take this as a personal attack Moonbeam, I'm just curious if you actually think they're among the bottom 25 artists of all-time or that it's more of a backlash against their popularity.
It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious
Disdain is fine, he simply doesn't like the sound. But to put them among the bottom 25 seems a little overboard.
Don't take this as a personal attack Moonbeam, I'm just curious if you actually think they're among the bottom 25 artists of all-time or that it's more of a backlash against their popularity.
I'm not saying they're among the 25 worst artists ever, just among my top 25 least favorite artists ever. And that synth shit in "Baba O'Riley" drives me up the wall.
#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Beach Boys (Nicolas says I like the Beach Boys but they probably fall out of my top 10 and narrowly beat Stevie.)
#1 Bob Dylan
RESULTS:
The Beatles 71.1% / Johnny Cash 28.9%
The Who 65.8% / The Velvet Underground 34.2%
Led Zeppelin 65.8% / Bob Marley 34.2%
David Bowie 70.3% / Neil Young 29.7%
The Rolling Stones 78.4% / Marvin Gaye 21.6%
Jimi Hendrix 51.4% / The Kinks 35.1% / Elvis Presley 13.5%
Stevie Wonder 63.2% / The Beach Boys 36.8%
Bob Dylan 81.1% / James Brown 18.9%
I LOVE all of these artists. They are la creme de la creme.
The Beatles Neil Young Bob Dylan
Johnny Cash Stevie Wonder The Rolling Stones The Who Led Zeppelin
David Bowie
Bob Marley Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley
The Velvet Underground
The Beach Boys
Marvin Gaye
James Brown