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May 24, 2011 - 12:57PM

UMT2: Round of 64 / #1

Vote for the winners, results posted tomorrow:
#1 The Beatles vs. #2 Johnny Cash
#1 The Velvet Underground vs. #2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin vs. #2 Bob Marley
#1 David Bowie vs. #2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones vs. #2 Marvin Gaye
#1 Jimi Hendrix vs. #3 The Kinks vs. #2 Elvis Presley
#1 Stevie Wonder vs. #2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan vs. #2 James Brown

Slick

May 24, 2011 - 1:05PM

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Cash
Who
Zepp
Bowie
Stones
Jimi
Stevie
Dylan

With all these legends in one region I thought it was going to be tough, surprisingly it was really easy.

Otisredding

May 24, 2011 - 1:27PM

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#2 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

Nick

May 24, 2011 - 1:33PM

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The Beatles
The Who
Led Zeppelin
David Bowie
The Rolling Stones
Jimi Hendrix
The Beach Boys
Bob Dylan

Moonbeam

May 24, 2011 - 2:30PM

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#2 Johnny Cash: No chance he wins, but whatevs.
#1 The Velvet Underground: Beatles vs. Who in the next round would be a nightmare scenario for me.
#2 Bob Marley: Yuck.
#1 David Bowie: The shining beacon of this quarter of the bracket.
#2 Marvin Gaye: He's no Otis Redding, but I like Marvin ok.
#3 The Kinks: Tough call between these guys and Jimi.
#1 Stevie Wonder: The shining beacon of the bottom half here.
#2 James Brown: We want the funk.

Schwah

May 24, 2011 - 2:31PM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground - Hardest call of the day.
#1 Led Zeppelin - I am on a major Houses of the Holy kick right now. I don't know why, but it's hitting my pleasure center hard.
#1 David Bowie - Closer call for me than in years past, with my love for Young growing. But Bowie has a greater ability to surprise.
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#1 Stevie Wonder - Blow out of the day.
#1 Bob Dylan - It hurts to vote against Brown... but Dylan is greater.

Nassim

May 24, 2011 - 2:49PM

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#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who : only match-up were I hesitate
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan : no, I don't hate Dylan, I really enjoy most of Highway 61 Revisited and many other songs. I'm just bored by some that I find musically empty and overlong, Tangled Up In Blue being the first that would come to mind but Desolation Row and Visions of Johanna are other examples. Still, the songs I love (I want You, Highway 61, Subterrean Homesick Blues, The Times They are a-changin', Hurricane (ok, this one is overlong too, but sounds great) are enough to top James.

May 24th, 2011 - 2:49 PM

Stephan

May 24, 2011 - 3:30PM

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#2 Johnny Cash (from this point on The Beatles are probably my least favorite act in this whole section)
#2 The Who (and I'm not sure if I like this division by decade. I'm having to vote off one of my top 10 act here and then chose between Madonna and Run-D.M.C. in another round, two artists not even in my top 100)
#2 Bob Marley
#2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks (Here's to hoping Jimi and Elvis split the email vote enough for the band with easily the best songwriting to win)
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan

schleuse

May 24, 2011 - 3:33PM

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When I first saw all these #1 and #2 seeds for the 50s/60s region, I figured it’s because enough time has passed that consensus was pretty solid for that era.

However, then I looked at the other regions…

50s/60s: Average seed 1.59. All #1 and #2 seeds made it, plus one #3 (Kinks).
70s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (Al Green over Joy Division).
80s: Average seed 1.56. One #3 upset a #2 (RHCP over Pet Shop Boys).
90s/00s: Average seed 1.88. Three #3 seeds (PJ Harvey, Portishead, and Kanye West) and one #4 (Gorillaz) made it.

Of the 32 #1 seeds, 31 have advanced. The only exception is Björk.

And guess what? I’m voting for seven of today’s eight #1 seeds.

THE BEATLES. Johnny Cash is an absolute titan, and if I ranked today’s 17 artists, he’d be in the top 8. But he got a brutal draw. The Beatles are the Beatles.

THE VELVET UNDERGROUND. The Who have gone way, way up in my estimation in the last couple of years. But the Velvet Underground is the wellspring of almost all the music that resonates deeply with me. Reluctantly, I must show Mr. Townshend the door.

LED ZEPPELIN. Yeah, I’m surprised I’m voting for them again too.

DAVID BOWIE. My feelings about this one are similar to the VU/Who matchup. It’s truly too bad that Neil’s run has to end here. But it does – for me, Bowie is close to being the only artist who really matters between Hunky Dory and Low.

THE ROLLING STONES. As with last round’s Stones/Buddy Holly matchup, this is another nailbiter. Mick & Keef squeak past Marvin on the basis of body of work.

THE KINKS. I could go around and around with these three artists, but I’ll eliminate Elvis since I voted against him last round. And right now, I’m just digging the Kinks a lot more than Jimi.

STEVIE WONDER. Still surprised the Beach Boys weren’t a #1 seed, but I happen to think the UMT seedings have these two artists in the right order.

BOB DYLAN

Henrik

May 24, 2011 - 3:39PM

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From this round I plan to present my winner like Stephan does in moderately, unless it complicates the counting for you Slick.

#1 The Beatles
#2 Bob Marley
#1 David Bowie
#1 Stevie Wonder
#2 Marvin Gaye
#1 The Rolling Stones
#2 Neil Young
#1 Bob Dylan
#2 James Brown
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 Johnny Cash
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 Elvis Presley
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Who

Slick

May 24, 2011 - 3:44PM

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schleuse

I was noticing that too. What it tells me is the formula used to seed these artists were fairly accurate. (Last Years UMT results, AM Ranking & top 100 artist lists).

Slick

May 24, 2011 - 3:45PM

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Henrik

Not at all.

Slick

May 24, 2011 - 3:47PM

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Stephan

#2 The Who (and I'm not sure if I like this division by decade. I'm having to vote off one of my top 10 act here and then chose between Madonna and Run-D.M.C. in another round, two artists not even in my top 100)

The 2012 version will be completely different than the division by decade.

Henry

May 24, 2011 - 4:03PM

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#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

May 24th, 2011 - 4:03 PM

Brad

May 24, 2011 - 4:17PM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan

Thanks!

Dan M

May 24, 2011 - 4:44PM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground
#2 Bob Marley
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#2 Elvis Presley
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

Romain

May 24, 2011 - 4:51PM

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#1 The Beatles The most easy choice of the day.
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie The second easy choice of the day
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder The third.
#2 James Brown And the fourth.

P.S. : I tried to listen Dylan all the night, and I was able to love two songs : Lay Lady Lay and Hurricane.
But apparently, it's not songs with a huge love here.

Stephan

May 24, 2011 - 5:00PM

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Hurricane is definitely one of my favorites. The whole album I think is slightly underrated. Not quite as good as Blood on the Tracks, but very good nonetheless.

Greg

May 24, 2011 - 5:10PM

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Johnny Cash
The Who
Led Zeppelin
Neil Young
The Rolling Stones
Elvis Presley
The Beach Boys
Bob Dylan

sonofsamiam

May 24, 2011 - 5:24PM

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#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#2 Marvin Gaye
#3 The Kinks
#1 Stevie Wonder (agonizing choice 1)
#1 Bob Dylan (agonizing choice 2)

Alex D

May 24, 2011 - 6:19PM

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#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

BillAdama

May 24, 2011 - 7:15PM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

At least I have one non-#1 seed to vote for.

Henry

May 24, 2011 - 8:57PM

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Stephan

Hurricane is definitely one of my favorites. The whole album I think is slightly underrated. Not quite as good as Blood on the Tracks, but very good nonetheless.

I think Blood on the Tracks was likely Dylan's most consistently excellent effort.

I wonder why Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts is overlooked by so many listeners. It's my favorite on the Album.

Hurricane and Lay Lady Lay are exeptional in that Dylan's voice isn't nearly as gravelly on these songs as it usually is.

drewcannon3

May 24, 2011 - 9:42PM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 Bob Dylan
#1 Led Zeppelin
#2 The Who
#2 Marvin Gaye
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 David Bowie
#2 Neil Young
#2 The Beach Boys
#3 The Kinks
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 Elvis Presley
#1 Stevie Wonder
#2 Bob Marley
#2 Johnny Cash
#2 James Brown

Listyguy

May 24, 2011 - 10:20PM

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Beatles
Who
Zep
Bowie (Interesting matchup)
Stones
Jimi
Stevie
Dylan (Happy Birthday!)

Rocky Raccoon

May 24, 2011 - 10:22PM

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Moonbeam

Beatles vs. Who in the next round would be a nightmare scenario for me.

Let's make it happen.

#1 The Beatles
#2 The Who
#2 Bob Marley (Closest matchup for me)
#2 Neil Young
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#1 Stevie Wonder
#1 Bob Dylan

Henry

May 24, 2011 - 11:09PM

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Rocky Raccoon

Moonbeam

Beatles vs. Who in the next round would be a nightmare scenario for me.

Let's make it happen.

Does Moonbeam like the relevant song by Alice Cooper?
Or is there a different song about nightmares that he prefers?

Midaso

May 25, 2011 - 12:15AM

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#2 Johnny Cash
#2 The Who
#2 Bob Marley
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan

Moonbeam

May 25, 2011 - 1:52AM

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Henry

Rocky Raccoon

Moonbeam

Beatles vs. Who in the next round would be a nightmare scenario for me.

Let's make it happen.

Does Moonbeam like the relevant song by Alice Cooper?
Or is there a different song about nightmares that he prefers?

I'd prefer the song "Nightmares" by A Flock of Seagulls.

And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.

Stephan

May 25, 2011 - 1:58AM

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Moonbeam

And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.

Really? The hatred goes so deep that you would rank The Who below Nickelback and the dozens of similar bands despite the obvious instrumental prowess of, say, Keith Moon, one of the all-time great drummers?

Midaso

May 25, 2011 - 2:02AM

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Stephan

Moonbeam

And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.

Not to mention their innovative use of one of Moonbeam's favourite instruments,the Synthesizer...

Henry

May 25, 2011 - 2:06AM

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Midaso

Stephan

Moonbeam

And yeah, Beatles vs. Who would feature 2 artists in my all-time bottom 25.

Not to mention their innovative use of one of Moonbeam's favourite instruments,the Synthesizer...

It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious

May 25th, 2011 - 2:06 AM

Stephan

May 25, 2011 - 2:11AM

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Henry

It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious

Disdain is fine, he simply doesn't like the sound. But to put them among the bottom 25 seems a little overboard.

Don't take this as a personal attack Moonbeam, I'm just curious if you actually think they're among the bottom 25 artists of all-time or that it's more of a backlash against their popularity.

May 25, 2011 - 2:29AM

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Beatles
Velvet Underground
Led Zep
David Bowie
Rolling Stones
Jimi Hendrix
Stevie Wonder
James Brown

Moonbeam

May 25, 2011 - 2:37AM

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Stephan

Henry

It makes one wonder if the objection is based on something of a non-musical nature. Similar thoughts occur with regard to Moonbeam's disdain for Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's a bit mysterious

I'm not saying they're among the 25 worst artists ever, just among my top 25 least favorite artists ever. And that synth shit in "Baba O'Riley" drives me up the wall.

John

May 25, 2011 - 5:34AM

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#1 The Beatles
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#3 The Kinks
#2 The Beach Boys (Nicolas says I like the Beach Boys but they probably fall out of my top 10 and narrowly beat Stevie.)
#1 Bob Dylan

Slick

May 25, 2011 - 12:47PM

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RESULTS:
The Beatles 71.1% / Johnny Cash 28.9%
The Who 65.8% / The Velvet Underground 34.2%
Led Zeppelin 65.8% / Bob Marley 34.2%
David Bowie 70.3% / Neil Young 29.7%
The Rolling Stones 78.4% / Marvin Gaye 21.6%
Jimi Hendrix 51.4% / The Kinks 35.1% / Elvis Presley 13.5%
Stevie Wonder 63.2% / The Beach Boys 36.8%
Bob Dylan 81.1% / James Brown 18.9%

All 8 winners were the same via AM & e-mail...

Gillingham

May 25, 2011 - 12:49PM

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#2 Johnny Cash
#1 The Velvet Underground
#1 Led Zeppelin
#1 David Bowie
#1 The Rolling Stones
#1 Jimi Hendrix
#2 The Beach Boys
#1 Bob Dylan

Not so hard, considering the high quality if these artists. Onle th fourth duel was really hard for me.

nicolas

May 25, 2011 - 4:41PM

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in Stephan format

I LOVE all of these artists. They are la creme de la creme.

The Beatles
Neil Young
Bob Dylan
Johnny Cash
Stevie Wonder
The Rolling Stones
The Who
Led Zeppelin
David Bowie
Bob Marley
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley
The Velvet Underground
The Beach Boys
Marvin Gaye
James Brown

BillAdama

May 26, 2011 - 12:33AM

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OOC Moonbeam, is it the Britpop era of The Who you hate more, or the hard rock area? Or do you hate both equally?

Moonbeam

May 26, 2011 - 1:06AM

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BillAdama

OOC Moonbeam, is it the Britpop era of The Who you hate more, or the hard rock area? Or do you hate both equally?

As far as I know, equally.