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UMT: 2.3

Van Halen vs. The Pointer Sisters
Live vs. Three Dog Night
Manfred Mann vs. Blood, Sweat & Tears
The Specials vs. The Cars
The Everly Brothers vs. Justin Timberlake
2Pac vs. Patti Smith
Pretenders vs. B.B. King
Jimmy Buffet vs. Weezer
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1978 - 39. Van Halen -- You Really Got Me
1978 - 61. Van Halen -- Jamie’s Cryin’
1978 - 74. Van Halen -- Runnin’ With The Devil
1978 - 88. Van Halen -- Ain’t Talkin’ ‘Bout Love
1978 - 186. Van Halen -- Ice Cream Man
1978 - 202. Van Halen -- Eruption
1978 - 265. Van Halen -- Feel Your Love Tonight
1979 - 62. Van Halen -- Dance The Night Away
1979 - 116. Van Halen -- Beautiful Girls
1979 - 270. Van Halen -- Outta Love Again
1979 - 277. Van Halen -- Women In Love
1979 - 286. Van Halen -- D.O.A.
1980 - 49. Van Halen -- ...And The Cradle Will Rock
1980 - 72. Van Halen -- Everybody Wants Some
1981 - 64. Van Halen -- Unchained
1981 - 176. Van Halen -- Mean Street
1981 - 298. Van Halen -- So This Is Love
1981 - 373. Van Halen -- Push Comes To Shove
1982 - 56. Van Halen -- (Oh) Pretty Woman
1982 - 137. Van Halen -- Dancing in the Street
1982 - 212. Van Halen -- Little Guitars
1982 - 250. Van Halen -- Where Have All The Good Times Gone
1982 - 325. Van Halen -- Secrets
1982 - 334. Van Halen -- Happy Trails
1984 - 4. Van Halen -- Jump
1984 - 47. Van Halen -- Panama
1984 - 89. Van Halen -- I'll Wait
1984 - 115. Van Halen -- Hot For Teacher
1984 - 216. Van Halen -- Drop Dead Legs
1984 - 321. Van Halen -- House of Pain
1986 - 11. Van Halen -- Why Can't This Be Love
1986 - 25. Van Halen -- Dreams
1986 - 59. Van Halen -- Love Walks In
1986 - 157. Van Halen -- Summer Nights
1986 - 161. Van Halen -- Best Of Both Worlds
1986 - 295. Van Halen -- 5150
1986 - 320. Van Halen -- Good Enough
1986 - 388. Van Halen -- Get Up
1988 - 31. Van Halen -- When It’s Love
1988 - 87. Van Halen -- Finish What Ya Started
1988 - 143. Van Halen -- Black And Blue
1988 - 173. Van Halen -- Cabo Wabo
1988 - 251. Van Halen -- Mine All Mine
1988 - 400. Van Halen -- Sucker In A 3-Piece
1989 - 118. Van Halen -- Feels So Good
1991 - 49. Van Halen -- Right Now
1991 - 78. Van Halen -- Runaround
1991 - 94. Van Halen -- Poundcake
1991 - 115. Van Halen -- Top Of The World
1992 - 322. Van Halen -- The Dream Is Over
1993 - 384. Van Halen -- Won't Get Fooled Again
1995 - 57. Van Halen -- Can't Stop Loving You
1995 - 109. Van Halen -- Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
1995 - 251. Van Halen -- The Seventh Seal
1995 - 282. Van Halen -- Amsterdam
1996 - 172. Van Halen -- Human’s Being
1996 - 328. Van Halen -- Me Wise Magic
1998 - 153. Van Halen -- Without You
2004 - 169. Van Halen -- It’s About Time
2004 - 360. Van Halen -- Up For Breakfast

1978 - 123. The Pointer Sisters -- Fire
1980 - 75. The Pointer Sisters -- He's So Shy
1981 - 49. The Pointer Sisters -- Slow Hand
1981 - 396. The Pointer Sisters -- Should I Do It
1982 - 114. The Pointer Sisters -- I'm So Excited
1982 - 283. The Pointer Sisters -- American Music
1984 - 55. The Pointer Sisters -- Automatic
1984 - 70. The Pointer Sisters -- Jump (For My Love)
1984 - 126. The Pointer Sisters -- Neutron Dance
1985 - 387. The Pointer Sisters -- Dare Me

1992 - 126. Live -- Pain Lies On The Riverside
1992 - 159. Live -- Operation Spirit
1994 - 38. Live -- I Alone
1994 - 49. Live -- Selling The Drama
1994 - 280. Live -- Pillar Of Davidson
1994 - 340. Live -- The Dam At Otter Creek
1994 - 393. Live -- Iris
1995 - 7. Live -- Lightning Crashes
1995 - 75. Live -- All Over You
1995 - 173. Live -- White, Discussion
1997 - 52. Live -- Lakini's Juice
1997 - 112. Live -- Turn My Head
1997 - 130. Live -- Freaks
1997 - 182. Live -- Rattlesnake
1999 - 41. Live -- The Dolphins Cry
1999 - 358. Live -- The Distance
1999 - 381. Live -- Voodoo Lady
2000 - 128. Live -- Run To The Water
2000 - 159. Live -- They Stood Up For Love
2001 - 151. Live -- Simple Creed
2001 - 300. Live -- Overcome
2003 - 116. Live -- Heaven
2004 - 294. Live -- Run Away
2006 - 289. Live -- The River
2006 - 399. Live -- Mystery

1969 - 85. Three Dog Night -- Easy To Be Hard
1969 - 92. Three Dog Night -- Eli's Coming
1970 - 20. Three Dog Night -- Mama Told Me (Not To Come)
1970 - 199. Three Dog Night -- Out In The Country
1971 - 10. Three Dog Night -- Joy To The World
1971 - 73. Three Dog Night -- An Old Fashioned Love Song
1971 - 117. Three Dog Night -- Never Been To Spain
1971 - 132. Three Dog Night -- Liar
1972 - 73. Three Dog Night -- Black And White
1972 - 231. Three Dog Night -- The Family Of Man
1973 - 68. Three Dog Night -- Shambala
1973 - 266. Three Dog Night -- Let Me Serenade You
1974 - 227. Three Dog Night -- The Show Must Go On
1975 - 237. Three Dog Night -- Til The World Ends

1964 - 11. Manfred Mann -- Do Wah Diddy Diddy
1964 - 70. Manfred Mann -- Sha La La
1964 - 204. Manfred Mann -- 5-4-3-2-1
1965 - 135. Manfred Mann -- If You Gotta Go, Go Now
1965 - 201. Manfred Mann -- Come Tomorrow
1966 - 101. Manfred Mann -- Pretty Flamingo
1966 - 222. Manfred Mann -- Semi-Detached Suburban Mr. Jones
1967 - 202. Manfred Mann -- Ha Ha Said The Clown
1968 - 53. Manfred Mann -- Mighty Quinn
1968 - 190. Manfred Mann -- Fox On The Run
1976 - 17. Manfred Mann -- Blinded By The Light
1977 - 305. Manfred Mann -- Spirit In The Night
1981 - 284. Manfred Mann -- For You
1984 - 212. Manfred Mann -- Runner

1969 - 49. Blood, Sweat & Tears -- Spinning Wheel
1969 - 64. Blood, Sweat & Tears -- You've Made Me So Very Happy
1969 - 93. Blood, Sweat & Tears -- And When I Die
1970 - 172. Blood, Sweat & Tears -- Lucretia MacEvil
1970 - 212. Blood, Sweat & Tears -- Hi-De-Ho

1979 - 55. The Specials -- Gangsters
1979 - 80. The Specials -- A Message To You Rudy
1979 - 325. The Specials -- Too Much Too Young
1980 - 107. The Specials -- Rat Race
1980 - 204. The Specials -- Stereotype
1980 - 225. The Specials -- Do Nothing
1981 - 27. The Specials -- Ghost Town
1984 - 136. The Specials -- Free Nelson Mandela

1978 - 11. The Cars -- Just What I Needed
1978 - 26. The Cars -- My Best Friends Girl
1978 - 106. The Cars -- You’re All I’ve Got Tonight
1978 - 151. The Cars -- Let’s Go
1978 - 173. The Cars -- Bye Bye Love
1978 - 293. The Cars -- Don’t ‘Cha Stop
1979 - 50. The Cars -- Let's Go
1979 - 104. The Cars -- Good Times Roll
1979 - 120. The Cars -- Moving In Stereo
1979 - 138. The Cars -- It's All I Can Do
1979 - 295. The Cars -- Double Life
1980 - 139. The Cars -- Touch And Go
1980 - 309. The Cars -- Don't Tell Me No
1980 - 321. The Cars -- Up And Down
1980 - 376. The Cars -- Misfit Kids
1981 - 26. The Cars -- Shake It Up
1981 - 369. The Cars -- Cruise
1981 - 397. The Cars -- Gimme Some Slack
1982 - 127. The Cars -- Since Your Gone
1982 - 369. The Cars -- Victim Of Love
1984 - 21. The Cars -- Drive
1984 - 66. The Cars -- You Might Think
1984 - 137. The Cars -- Magic
1984 - 271. The Cars -- Hello Again
1984 - 356. The Cars -- It's Not Tonight
1985 - 103. The Cars -- Tonight She Comes
1985 - 253. The Cars -- Why Can't I Have You
1985 - 373. The Cars -- Breakaway
1987 - 121. The Cars -- You Are The Girl
1987 - 238. The Cars -- Strap Me In
1988 - 347. The Cars -- Coming Up You

1957 - 6. The Everly Brothers -- Wake Up Little Susie
1957 - 7. The Everly Brothers -- Bye Bye Love
1957 - 144. The Everly Brothers -- I Wonder If I Care As Much
1958 - 3. The Everly Brothers -- All I Have To Do Is Dream
1958 - 13. The Everly Brothers -- Bird Dog
1958 - 33. The Everly Brothers -- Problems
1958 - 51. The Everly Brothers -- Claudette
1958 - 59. The Everly Brothers -- Devoted To You
1958 - 131. The Everly Brothers -- Love Of My Life
1958 - 179. The Everly Brothers -- This Little Girl Of Mine
1959 - 24. The Everly Brothers -- (Till) I Kissed You
1959 - 89. The Everly Brothers -- Poor Jenny
1959 - 135. The Everly Brothers -- Take A Message To Mary
1960 - 5. The Everly Brothers -- Cathy's Clown
1960 - 23. The Everly Brothers -- When Will I Be Loved
1960 - 42. The Everly Brothers -- So Sad (To Watch Good Love Go So Bad)
1960 - 58. The Everly Brothers -- Let It Be Me
1960 - 75. The Everly Brothers -- Lucille
1960 - 86. The Everly Brothers -- Always It's You
1960 - 124. The Everly Brothers -- Like Strangers
1961 - 23. The Everly Brothers -- Ebony Eyes
1961 - 35. The Everly Brothers -- Walk Right Back
1961 - 44. The Everly Brothers -- Temptation
1961 - 75. The Everly Brothers -- Crying in the Rain
1961 - 149. The Everly Brothers -- Don't Blame Me
1961 - 181. The Everly Brothers -- Stick With My Baby
1962 - 41. The Everly Brothers -- Crying In The Rain
1962 - 99. The Everly Brothers -- That’s Old Fashioned (That’s The Way Love Should Be)
1965 - 229. The Everly Brothers -- The Price Of Love
1967 - 224. The Everly Brothers -- Bowling Green

2002 - 75. Justin Timberlake -- Like I Love You
2003 - 9. Justin Timberlake -- Rock Your Body
2003 - 16. Justin Timberlake -- Cry Me A River
2003 - 152. Justin Timberlake -- Senorita
2006 - 5. Justin Timberlake -- Sexyback
2006 - 16. Justin Timberlake -- My Love
2007 - 58. Justin Timberlake -- What Goes Around… Comes Around
2007 - 145. Justin Timberlake -- LoveStoned
2007 - 154. Justin Timberlake -- Summer Love

1991 - 172. 2Pac -- Brenda’s Got A Baby
1993 - 89. 2Pac -- Keep Ya Head Up
1993 - 125. 2Pac -- I Get Around
1994 - 313. 2Pac -- Papa'z Song
1995 - 46. 2Pac -- Dear Mama
1995 - 261. 2Pac -- Temptation
1995 - 284. 2Pac -- So Many Tears
1996 - 2. 2Pac -- California Love
1996 - 54. 2Pac -- How Do You Want It
1996 - 273. 2Pac -- I Ain’t Mad At ‘Cha
1996 - 393. 2Pac -- Life Goes On
1998 - 39. 2Pac -- Changes
1998 - 218. 2Pac -- Do For Love
2002 - 203. 2Pac -- Thugz Mansion

1975 - 33. Patti Smith -- Gloria
1975 - 178. Patti Smith -- Land : Horses/Land Of A 1,000 Dances
1975 - 299. Patti Smith -- Piss Factory
1976 - 217. Patti Smith -- Ask The Angels
1976 - 250. Patti Smith -- Pumping My Heart
1978 - 18. Patti Smith -- Because The Night
1979 - 130. Patti Smith -- Dancing Barefoot

1979 - 112. Pretenders -- Stop Your Sobbing
1979 - 161. Pretenders -- Kid
1980 - 7. Pretenders -- Brass In Pocket
1980 - 100. Pretenders -- Talk Of The Town
1980 - 153. Pretenders -- Wait
1980 - 274. Pretenders -- Precious
1980 - 358. Pretenders -- Mystery Achievement
1981 - 162. Pretenders -- Message Of Love
1981 - 300. Pretenders -- I Go To Sleep
1981 - 314. Pretenders -- The Adultress
1982 - 23. Pretenders -- Back on the Chain Gang
1982 - 273. Pretenders -- My City Was Gone
1983 - 89. Pretenders -- Middle of the Road
1983 - 263. Pretenders -- 2000 Miles
1984 - 143. Pretenders -- Show Me
1984 - 381. Pretenders -- Thin Line Between Love And Hate
1984 - 388. Pretenders -- Time The Avenger
1986 - 56. Pretenders -- Don't Get Me Wrong
1987 - 222. Pretenders -- My Baby
1990 - 360. Pretenders -- Never Do That
1994 - 93. Pretenders -- I'll Stand By You
1994 - 158. Pretenders -- Night In My Veins
1999 - 373. Pretenders -- Human
2002 - 359. Pretenders -- Complex Person
2008 - 286. Pretenders -- Boots Of Chinese Plastic

1955 - 81. B.B. King -- Everyday I Have The Blues
1956 - 80. B.B. King -- Sweet Little Angel
1968 - 297. B.B. King -- Paying The Cost To Be The Boss
1970 - 52. B.B. King -- The Thrill Is Gone
1970 - 253. B.B. King -- So Excited
1971 - 258. B.B. King -- Ain't Nobody
1971 - 288. B.B. King -- Ghetto Woman

1974 - 96. Jimmy Buffett -- Come Monday
1977 - 24. Jimmy Buffett -- Margaritaville
1977 - 178. Jimmy Buffett -- Changes In Latitude, Changes In Attitude
1978 - 121. Jimmy Buffett -- Cheeseburger In Paradise
1978 - 313. Jimmy Buffett -- Manana
1979 - 141. Jimmy Buffett -- Volcano
1979 - 226. Jimmy Buffett -- Fins
2003 - 247. Jimmy Buffett & Alan Jackson -- It's Five O' Clock Somewhere

1994 - 35. Weezer -- Undone (The Sweater Song)
1994 - 356. Weezer -- Only In Dreams
1994 - 395. Weezer -- The World Has Turned And Left Me
1995 - 3. Weezer -- Buddy Holly
1995 - 34. Weezer -- Say It Isn't So
1995 - 177. Weezer -- My Name Is Jonas
1995 - 223. Weezer -- Surf Wax America
1996 - 17. Weezer -- El Scorcho
1996 - 47. Weezer -- The Good Life
1996 - 203. Weezer -- Tired Of Sex
1996 - 263. Weezer -- Pink Triangle
1996 - 377. Weezer -- Across The Sea
1996 - 396. Weezer -- Suzanne
2001 - 26. Weezer -- Hash Pipe
2001 - 45. Weezer -- Island In The Sun
2001 - 167. Weezer -- Photograph
2001 - 394. Weezer -- Simple Pages
2002 - 86. Weezer -- Keep Fishin’
2002 - 118. Weezer -- Dope Nose
2002 - 310. Weezer -- Slave
2005 - 10. Weezer -- Beverly Hills
2005 - 73. Weezer -- Perfect Situation
2005 - 107. Weezer -- We Are All On Drugs
2005 - 367. Weezer -- The Damage In Your Heart
2006 - 135. Weezer -- This Is Such A Pity
2008 - 9. Weezer -- Pork And Beans
2008 - 78. Weezer -- Troublemaker
2008 - 105. Weezer -- The Greatest Man That Ever Lived
2008 - 219. Weezer -- Thought I Knew
2008 - 258. Weezer -- Everybody Get Dangerous
2008 - 281. Weezer -- Dreamin’
2009 - 77 Weezer -- (If You’re Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen
The Specials
Justin Timberlake
Patti Smith
Pretenders
Weezer

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VH -- With the exception of the Cherone years, they continued to rock and put out some decent albums...
Live -- The 1st four Live albums are all great...
Mann -- Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Do...
Cars -- I like me some specials, I just like The Cars even more...
Ev. Bros --
2Pac -- I might have voted the other way until I saw the Courtney Love Behind The Music and saw how Patti Smith's influence isn't always a good thing...
Pretenders --
Weezer --

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen
Live
Manfred Mann - I always thought Manfred Mann's Earth Band was a completely different group to MM...
The Cars
The Everly Brothers
2Pac
Pretenders
Weezer

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Van Halen
The Specials
The Everly Brothers
Joke matchup of the week. I don't know how Justin even got to round 2. Who did he beat in round 1?
Patti Smith
B.B. King
Hardest vote of the week for me. I love the Pretenders.
Weezer
Ugh. Does one of these two really have to go to the round of 256? I guess I vote Weezer just on the merit of Buddy Holly and Pinkerton.

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen - Don't get me wrong... I enjoyed what the Pointer Sisters brought to the table. Solid hit makers they were. And Van Halen is a problematic hit or miss group. But goddamn if "Jump," "Hot for Teacher," and "Panama" isn't the perfect hard pop-rock 1-2-3 combination.

Three Dog Night - I kinda liked that Live song the first time, and then they kept releasing the same song over and over (or so it felt). Gimme the joyful Three Dog Night instead.

Blood, Sweat & Tears - I'll say this for Manfred Mann, they have excellent taste in cover song choices. As for BST, I realize I'm supposed to like their original Al Kooper led version more, but I actually am a sucker for their big self-titled hit album.

The Cars - Really like The Specials' first album, probably more than any individual Cars album. But the cumulative hits of the Cars wins out. I tried not to let my feeling that "Ghost Town" is one of the most overrated songs ever affect my decision.

Justin Timberlake - I kinda get why the Everlys are well-regarded, But their harmonies-in-thirds thing lays flat for me. Timberlake has been a super-surprise since his solo debut. Dynamic, not afraid to look ridiculous (and succeeds in looking ridiculous less often than one might have predicted), and as fine a conduit for Timbaland's production craziness as Aaliyah had been.

Patti Smith - Two dynamic presences. I feel bad because my knowledge of Shakur is limited, but I will go with Smith, whose Horses surprised me by living up to its hype. I don't usually go in for heavily poetic lyrics, and SMith often fails to sell it, but she does often enough.

Pretenders - Another vore I feel bad about. King is bad motherf*&^er. But so is Hynde. Can't get enough of her delivery on "Talk of the Town" an "Middle of the Road"

Weezer - One of the worst recent purchases I made was Weezer's Red Album. If that was their only output, though, they still would be miles ahead of Buffet, who is one of the unholy members of Schwah's official "Worst Three Artists of All Time." (Fact is, I adore the Blue Album and Pinkerton so I'm happy to vote for Weezer... but that Red Album was prety bad.)

Favorite this round - On the strength of their first two albums, Weezer, but their stock as been dropping.

Favorite not voted for this round - Lucille and her owner.

Re: UMT: 2.3

BillAdama
Van Halen
The Specials
The Everly Brothers
Joke matchup of the week. I don't know how Justin even got to round 2. Who did he beat in round 1?
Patti Smith
B.B. King
Hardest vote of the week for me. I love the Pretenders.
Weezer
Ugh. Does one of these two really have to go to the round of 256? I guess I vote Weezer just on the merit of Buddy Holly and Pinkerton.



Results from Bracket #6....

The Everly Brothers 85.7% / The Ting Tings 14.3%
Justin Timberlake 77.8% / Garth Brooks 22.2%
2Pac 73.1% / Gordon Lightfoot 26.9%
Patti Smith 77.8% / Mighty Mighty Bosstones 22.2%
Pretenders 92.3% / Mike + The Mechanics 7.7%
B.B. King 85.7% / The Dave Clark Five 14.3%
Jimmy Buffett 66.7% / Christopher Cross 33.3%
Weezer 100% / Goldfinger 0%

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen
Live
Manfred Mann
The Specials
The Everly Brothers
Patti Smith
Pretenders
Weeer

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Van Halen
Live
Manfred Mann
The Specials
The Everly Brothers
Patti Smith
Pretenders
Weezer

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen
Three Dog Night
Manfred Mann
The Cars
Justin Timberlake
Patti Smith
Pretenders
Weezer

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Van Halen
Pass on Live v. 3DN
Pass on Manfred v. BS&T
The Specials
The Everly Brothers (but believe it or don’t, Don & Phil over Justin was the toughest call I’ve had to make yet in the UMT)
Patti Smith
Pretenders
Weezer

****

AM TOP 10 ALBUMS
1. Patti Smith – Horses
2. Pretenders – Pretenders
3. The Specials – Specials
4. Van Halen – Van Halen
5. B.B. King – Live at the Regal
6. Weezer – Weezer (“Blue Album”)
7. Weezer – Pinkerton
8. Van Halen – 1984
9. The Cars – The Cars
10. Patti Smith – Easter

AM TOP 10 SONGS
1. The Specials, “Ghost Town”
2. The Everly Brothers, “Bye Bye Love”
3. Van Halen, “Jump”
4. The Everly Brothers, “All I Have to Do Is Dream”
5. Pretenders, “Brass in Pocket”
6. The Everly Brothers, “Cathy’s Clown”
7. Justin Timberlake, “My Love”
8. Patti Smith, “Gloria”
9. Patti Smith, “Because the Night”
10. B.B. King, “The Thrill Is Gone”

MY FAVORITE ARTIST TODAY
Pretenders

Re: UMT: 2.3

Van Halen
no
Blood, Sweat & Tears
The Cars
The Everly Brothers
2Pac
Pretenders
Weezer

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Slick

Justin Timberlake 77.8% / Garth Brooks 22.2%


Oh, never mind then. He deserved it completely.

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The Specials
Justin Timberlake
Patti Smith
B B King
Weezer

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Van Halen
Live
pass
The Specials
The Everly Brothers
Patti Smith
pass
Weezer

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Winners in 2.3
Van Halen 96.4% / The Pointer Sisters 3.6%
Live 64% / Three Dog Night 32%
Manfred Mann 66.7% / Blood, Sweat & Tears 33.3%
The Cars 60% / The Specials 40%
The Everly Brothers 53.3% / Justin Timerlake 46.7%
Patti Smith 53.3% / 2Pac 46.7%
Pretenders 55.2% / B.B. King 44.8%
Weezer 76.7% / Jimmy Buffett 23.3%