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Front mudguard - valence type - bsa m20

Hi all
Was the valance type front mudguard used on panel tank bikes only
It disappeared on bikes in 2nd half 1939
Br
Job

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Re: Front mudguard - valence type - bsa m20

Wasn't it used on Dutch contract M21 machines used both in the Netherlands and later in the UK?

I think it was originally a civilian M20-M21 De-luxe part, but British spec WD machines were partly De-luxe and this was one of the de-luxe parts not used.

Rob

Re: Front mudguard - valence type - bsa m20

Hi Rob
I found my 1940 list
In it - the valenced & non valence type are listed for M series

The tanks however were not offered as an option - just a panel tank only for that season - which we know was not very long in duration for civilian spec machines

So it seems panel tank & valence guard with std guard as an option

Job

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Re: Front mudguard - valence type - bsa m20

John, are you referring to civlian M20s or the British military variants ? With Nortons, it's easy as the WD prefix indicated military but BSA confused matters by chossing the "W" prefix for all the 1940 model range, including the planned and produced civilian models. As Rob mentions, the WD version was something of a hybrid.

The WD KM20s are often referred to as "deluxe" but it's not entirely clear what "deluxe" referred to. I think it was Michiel who was of the opinion that the deluxe models had higher-grade forks. The catalogues make it clear that they certainly had QD rear wheels whereas the standard model did not. It seems that official WD contract KM20s had the valanced rear guard and QD rear wheel, but no valanced front guard and no tank panel. Perhaps, in the light of the MEE trials, the QD rear wheel was an essential feature and the machines were referred to by BSA as deluxe.

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For 1940, for the civilian market, only the QD rear wheel, fully valanced panel tank model was available so essentially only a deluxe. There were some emergency purchase panel tank WM20s delivered to the War Office during late 1939 but never with valanced front guards.

crop

It seems likely that any late 1939 civilian sales would have featured the valanced front guard, as did the Dutch contract machines.

Re: Front mudguard - valence type - bsa m20

Irish spec. bikes may have differed in the specs. as Dutch ones did...Ian

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