On November 7th I had the pleasure of receiving an interesting email from Mr Peter Deere. The heading of his email was this link: https://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3155626639&frmid=16&msgid=1532065&cmd=show . Just wanted to share our pleasant conversation with you… 😃
Peter Deere:
Hi
I have , BSA M20 parts , if you are interested, email me back for more details.
My reply:
Hi Pete,
Yes, what have you got? Please send me pictures and prices…
John
Peter:
Hi ,
Here is an attached picture of my BSA M20 , which I`m about to break for parts because of my health challenges and my age which is not on my side , I want you to send me the list of parts that you may need along with your location , to allow me know how far you are from me .
God Bless .
With the aid of Google Lens I soon found out where he found this picture. An old auction, with lots of different photographs . Very interesting material for an old school scammer!
Me:
Hi Peter,
Good to hear from you!
It’s a bit of a shame to break up that beautiful bike isn’t it… The fact is that my project is missing so many parts that I consider buying a complete bike. My father passed away a month ago, and he left me a considerable sum of money. So to make a long story short: how much did you have in mind for the complete motorcycle?
I live in a remote part of Canada (Alberta), and my next door neighbour buys and sells cars over the internet. He uses UPS. How much would it cost to send me this bike with UPS to Alberta, Canada please?
Regards,
John
Peter:
Hi Jan,
Sorry for your loss . Well I`m 90 in a wheelchair now waiting to undergo my last surgery so that I can leave the wheelchair to walk again though I can`t ride after my surgery according to my doctor . The complete bike will cost you £3,400 . Then shipping to your doorstep in Alberta will cost you £400 . As soon as you pay for it now , my agent will come get it and package it for delivery immediately .
As soon as I get your interest now , I`II send you more pictures of the bike .
God Bless.
Peter .
Me:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply! Well, I’m definitely interested. But that’s a suspiciously cheap bike, what’s wrong with it? Does it come with paperwork? Is the engine running?
Regards,
John
Peter:
I understand but I have to let the bike go cheaply to you because from your email , I already know that you are an honest man like me and you can as well give my bike a good home , otherwise the bike runs great with nothing to fix on it before riding it . As soon as I get your interest now , I`II send you more pictures . The bike has V5 papers .
Regarding payment , I`II accept bank transfers .
God Bless.
Peter .
Me:
Hello,Peter,
Sorry to hear about your surgery! Wish I could help you!
Yes, I am interested! But before I make a bank transfer to you I’d like to see pictures of the frame and engine numbers, I hope you understand.
Thanks for getting in contact with me!
Regards,
John
Peter:
Okay , here are the pictures you requested . Let me have your doorstep address .
God Bless.
27 Northport Drive Wareham Dorset BH20 UK.
Peter .
Clearly copied from the same auction site…
email (option): wd.register@gmail.com
Me:
Thank you very much Peter! Unfortunately that’s not the frame number that you sent me, it’s a casting number for the rear lug. You can find the frame number on the front tube, as in the attached photograph. Really looking forward to this bike, it looks lovely. Nice patina! Love it!
Regards,
John
Please note that I also used a picture from the auction site to show where he’s got to look for the frame number! Would he notice…? Apparently not…
Peter:
Sorry I`m trying to see them clearly but not visible .
Me:
Hello Peter,
OK, never mind… One final question… Could you please send me a photograph of the V5 document? Canadian customs can be very difficult… If the V5 document looks good I’ll do the bank transfer.
Regards,
John
Peter:
Okay , I will send the V5 documents as soon as my eldest daughter comes back from work.
My agent will deliver the bike to your doorstep, so don't worries about the Canadian customs.
Peter.
Me:
Hello Peter,
That is fantastic! On which bank account can I do the money transfer please?
Best regards,
John
Peter:
Okay . Regarding payment below is my eldest daughter banking details, transfer the money into the account now and send me the scan copy of the deposit slip for confirmation.
Here are my GBP account details at Wise.
Account holder: Kelly-Ann Nutbeam
Swift/BIC: TRWIGB2LXXX
IBAN: GB36 TRWI 2308 0143 6868 64
Bank name and address: Wise Payments Limited
56 Shoreditch High Street
London
E1 6JJ
United Kingdom
When she comes back from work, I will still send you a copy of the V5 paper.
Hope to receive the payment details soon next.
God bless.
Peter .
Me:
My bank manager has prepared the deal, I only have to give him a phone call and he’ll press the button. You can almost smell the money Peter! 😊
Regards,
John
Peter:
Okay .
The next day:
Me:
Hello Peter,
I hope this email finds you well.
My wife was just asking me… given your well respected age… were you the first owner of this bike? That would be fantastic: finding a "one owner from new” BSA!
Just want to let you know that together with a couple of friends, we will be leaving for a bear hunting weekend in the Rocky Mountains this afternoon. This has become a yearly tradition at Armistice Day (weekend plus bank holiday). I’m telling you this because I will be off-grid for a few days…
Best regards,
John
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Hi Peter,
Last stop where we have WiFi before the Rocky Mountains. Just wanted to ask you if your daughter has found the V5 document?
Best regards
John
Three days later:
Me:
Hello Peter,
Just got back from the Rocky Mountains. It was a great trip, I shot 2 bears!
Haven’t seen the V5 document yet, did you send it to me?
Best regards,
John
email (option): wd.register@gmail.com
No reply… let’s try again:
Me:
Hello Peter,
I’m worried about this silence… Hope all is well with you? Just want to let you know that I’m still seriously interested in your BSA!
Regards,
John
Peter:
Oh , sorry about my silence. I was in the hospital for my pre surgery check up . Your picture reminds me of my young age when I was hunting in my neighbourhood . The bike is still available but my eldest nature of work is delaying the V5, still trying to make her help me scan it and attach it as usual .
God Bless.
Peter .
Me:
hello Peter,
My bankmanager has just called me. He wanted to know if he had to transfer 3.800 Pounds to your account. I asked him to wait, until I’ve seen the V5 document. So please don’t forget…
Best regards,
John
Peter:
Okay great , I`II send it in 30 mins time . Sorry for the little delay .
God Bless.
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Peter .
Hi Jan,
Sorry for the little delay , as my eldest daughter has to quickly leave work and help me out before going to work again . I have attached a copy of the V5 . Please transfer the money now and send me the scan copy of the payment details for confirmation . As soon as I receive the funds now , My agent will come get the bike and package it for delivery immediately .
God Bless.
Peter .
There are lots of V5 scans on the internet. If you look closely you can see how he cut and pasted the original text before he added the new text, letter per letter. This must have taken him a lot of time indeed…
Me:
Hello Peter,
I have asked my bank manager to do the transfer ASAP. Please let me know when you have received the money.
Kind regards,
John
Peter:
Okay great . But tell your bank manager to send the scan copy of the deposit or payment details to you , so that you can forward it to me asap.
God Bless.
Peter .
Me:
Hello Peter,
My bank manager is going to send you a copy with the details of this transaction. He’s got your email address. He also told me that it takes a couple of days before an international money transfer is completed. Don’t worry, the money is coming. Hope to see the BSA delivered here soon!
Best regards,
John
Peter:
Okay Great.
God bless.
Peter.
Think I’ll stop it here… 😊
email (option): wd.register@gmail.com