['The mushrooms must be good in NSW....'] :laughing: :mushroom:
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I must be an odd one out. I like Trevor's posts. Some of it goes over my head, but if it bothers me I research it. I am of a similar opinion, in that it's the rubbish that if often remembered and the facts are lost. Yes he can waffle, but at least he takes the time to type.
If you don't agree with what he types ignore him, it will be your loss.
The new fashion is to post "I've done it once, now I'm an expert videos"
I was taught to be an engine remanufacturer in my teens, and was considered fully skilled before I left school. I was grinding crankshafts.
They told me i would probably be one of the last to know these skills and as engines were getting better, the trade was dying.
I moved on the be a cylinder head development engineer. Many of the so called engine repairs I've seen have been horrific.
A few years ago a young lad we were helping though his university degree in mechanical engineering manufacture, asked. "Why do I feel like the more I learn, the less I know?" I laughed, "Welcome to the club." I answered. It's an annoying thing that as you learn you realise how ignorant you were. You can never learn it all! There is no such thing as Perfection, we can only strive to get close to it.
Happy New Year to you all, even if it is just a date and the wrong one ;)
One final thought. I you find a fool in their paradise, leave them alone. I expect they are happier than you.
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Goimg omto mission creep mode here a little but one of the big problems the British had with the indiginous peoples was the oldest continious survivng cultures on the planet do not recognise the passagge of a year.
And funny eoough it seemed to work of them for what is considered now to be 80,000 of our years
Because of this no one actually knew how old any body actually was because it was not important to them.
And it is not important to me either.
Birthdays come & go but life goes on just the same.
I find it amazing that people call the weather weird because it is not doing what it is "supposed to do"
The idea that the weather is what is real & our description of it is what is wrong is totally foreign to them'
Once again the black fellas up the top end have a sort of lunar calendre which of course has 13 months in sync with the moon.
The black fellars around me have 16 seasons , according to what is in flower and right down south they have 5 seasons.
Yet white people alwys talk in terms of the 4 developed by a fat man drnking wine wearing a sheet with one toe in the Med.
Our understanding about our environment changes all the time as we gleen more information
So some ofthe stuff I was taught is wrong & I have to accept that fact and not run around posting trash everywhere claiming what i was taught has to be right because it is what I was taught.
Mast scientists understand that there is no single truth , all we have is a theory that holds & works till a better one comes along to replace it .
I find it difficult to understand that just about every text upon which a religion is based is full of predictions, none of which have come to pass but people still believe them to the point of killing other who don't
Scientists have been making pedictions and a vast number of them have come to pass yet we choose to ignore them in favour of the ones that have not.
Nothings real, everything we see is just reflected light, time exists only because we invented it...but to avoid confusion its probably best not to question everything from day to day...Ian
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I work on the fact that we are all in a one act play. No rehearsals and we don't know when the curtain comes down. So I try to learn all that is a help to me and try to enjoy my fleeting time here.
Where can I get those mushrooms?
"We are trying to decarbonize (which is not the root cause of the environmental problems) yet we are happy to burn about 1.5 million tons of fireworks to celebrate a number."
Is that something you read on the internet?
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Statistics show that 75% of statistics are incorrect...Ian
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Is that something you read on the internet?[/quote]That's a fuckin brilliant comment! :heart_eyes:
There is usually a very nice tone of voice in the conversations on this forum, and with a respect for the fact that people are on different steps of learning. I would be sad to se that nice tone go. Lets just hope the this is a one slip-up, if not I for one will be out for good.
(And perhaps learn how to spell "metal" before going on an endless tirade about people being stupid... just at thought.)
Is that something you read on the internet?[/quote]That's a fuckin brilliant comment! :heart_eyes:
There is usually a very nice tone of voice in the conversations on this forum, and with a respect for the fact that people are on different steps of learning. I would be sad to se that nice tone go. Lets just hope the this is a one slip-up, if not I for one will be out for good.
(And perhaps learn how to spell "metal" before going on an endless tirade about people being stupid... just at thought.)[/quote]FWIW the 1.5 million tons was on a news report.
It was not fact checked which is why the line started with "apparently", the inference being it is from an unverified source.
And no I do not get what passes for news from the web unless I feel something needs deeper investigations than was presented on a government funded radio news report . In fact the ABC News Radio takes feed from dozens of other government and community based news stations & presents a lot of them in full.
It is skewed because they are all in English so the total dissaster that is continential Africa & South America do not get the air time that they should .
Appart from that I do subscribe to around 30 or so mostly trade journals , so the minning journals for instance highlight the massive shortfall in copper & cobalt should all IC engines get replaced with EV's as is the want of most EU governments
I also subsribe to a few scientific publications.
And there there aree forums like this where there is a broad spectrum idologies represented.
As for the "tone" the initial post started with a slightly different way of saying "don't believe what you see on the webb regardless of how many times you see it unless you can verify that it is correct.Perhaps a little strongly worded but still withing the bounds of civil conversations & refraining from profanities .
It would appear that some here decided they were being insulted and too offence , regardless of the fact they were not .
It is a free world if people choose to be offended rather than actually read what was posted then they have every right to do so .
If calling out useless clots who post misinformation on the WWW is degrading the quality of posting then I am at a loss to see how.
it is the duty of all who actually know something is totally wrong to point it out , particularly on the WWW because the stuff we post will potentially remain in cyber space till well after we pollute ourselves into oblivion
You are most likely well up in the knowledge stakes after all the publications you say you read and wish to impart your knowledge to others.This is good. Unfortunately you come over as a strict school master and this appears to get right up peoples noses.
Aloha,
"it is the duty of all who actually know something is totally wrong to point it out, particularly on the WWW because the stuff we post will potentially remain in cyber space till well after we pollute ourselves into oblivion"
Is it really though? Whenever something is wrong on the entire WWW? Like Ian Clare said this makes you come across as a strict school master, and in combination with your lack of finesse in your writing (I said that) perhaps as a somewhat unpleasant know it-all. And this is a type of character unfamiliar to this forum, you will probably be getting the same reaction to future posts if you keep this up.
As I final advice, and this is a friendly one a assure you, I would recommend you to get a different alias, many (most?) of us have WM20-bikes and it gets confusing. (As for my somewhat silly alias I started using it on US brit bike-forums many years ago, mainly because I kept getting advices along the lines of "you can get that at *insert name of chain of hard ware-stores* ", and I had to keep explaining that I live in metric-land. The stupid nick stuck and it is now me, but hey at least it is only me.)
Best regards,
Simon
I really had to laugh at that mushroom comment ! made my day.
And to add my penny; perhaps call this post mental ?? haha.
Sorry folks, trying to kick off from all those oliebollen...
for those who like Ishihara ! HAVE A GOOD 2022
please, let's call a halt to this thread now and get back to driveling on about bikes.
['for those who like Ishihara'].....
Very Good:laughing: ...and the same to you but in Cycle thread...Ian
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"it is the duty of all who actually know something is totally wrong to point it out, particularly on the WWW because the stuff we post will potentially remain in cyber space till well after we pollute ourselves into oblivion"
Is it really though? Whenever something is wrong on the entire WWW? Like Ian Clare said this makes you come across as a strict school master, and in combination with your lack of finesse in your writing (I said that) perhaps as a somewhat unpleasant know it-all. And this is a type of character unfamiliar to this forum, you will probably be getting the same reaction to future posts if you keep this up.
As I final advice, and this is a friendly one a assure you, I would recommend you to get a different alias, many (most?) of us have WM20-bikes and it gets confusing. (As for my somewhat silly alias I started using it on US brit bike-forums many years ago, mainly because I kept getting advices along the lines of "you can get that at *insert name of chain of hard ware-stores* ", and I had to keep explaining that I live in metric-land. The stupid nick stuck and it is now me, but hey at least it is only me.)
Best regards,
Simon[/quote]My final word on this which most of you will be happy about.
Firstly it was deliberately a new thread, not tacked onto another so as not to infer any critism of any poster here , not belittle or berate any one for not knowing .
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“For evil men to accomplish their purpose, it is only necessary that good men do nothing,”
A popular quote which is most likley not a quote at all but it is still very true, particularly when it comes to the WWW.
People and in particular children have died because confused parents believed false claims that infant vaccines make children autistic or other silly claims and that has been repeated so many times that they have mushroomed into a massive anti- vaccination organization. It should have been called out as being trash when it was first posted but those who knew betted ignored it because they thought no one would be stupid enough to believe such rubbish .
So it is the duty of those who know to call out whatever misinformation they see when they come across it .
We do it regularly right here on this forum when some one posts a reply that is wrong, some one else corrects it .
I have made just as many mistakes as any one else and when proven to be wrong acknowledge the mistake , thank whoever corrected me and if possible remove the wrong post ( which is not possible on this forum ).
If you check you will see this is SOP.