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Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

Esso Synergy Supreme+ is mentioned online as being Ethanol free, unless you buy it in Devon & Cornwall where I live or a few other places, I could try slipping over the border into Dorset or Somerset to smuggle a few litres home but it all sounds rather vague about just where these supply routes reach and end. Plus it sounds like its a higher octane than "pool" petrol and has some other cleaning additives in it?

Rob

email (option): robmiller11(a)yahoo.co.uk

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

('Still plenty of fuel available that has no ethanol. Check with your local filling stations'..)

Not in my neck of the woods (West Devon)...I've been to all the stations in my area and haven't found any E5 yet...I suppose I could pack my tent and go touring to find some..:laughing: ...

For that reason I'll be running mine on E10 unfortunately...I'm not going to use additives so I can find out what the actual effects are...Contacts in America, where they've had the stuff for years, don't report too many issues but climate and the type of use the bike gets may lead to varying effects...

I'm beginning to feel that there may potentially be some advantage in altering the ignition timing as the burn characteristics of this fuel must be quite different to fuels of yesteryear I'd imagine...I just need to convince myself it'll be worth spending a few hundred quid at the dyno to accurately measure the effects..(and of course I'll need some real fuel for comparison!!**!)..Ian

email (option): ian@wright52.plus.com

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Very interesting about Esso. Their website says this
“Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps.”
I’m lucky enough to have a few Esso stations in my area and on roads I enjoy riding, so I’ll now fill up at those and gradually flush the ethanol out of my tanks. Thanks all.

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

I've not tried it, but this stuff has been around for a while now.

https://aaoil.co.uk/brands/aspen/

email (option): pes.sales@btconnect.com

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Yes, £2/L via eBay. Could be useful as a final fill before Winter??? "4-stroke petrol Aspen 4 is the cleanest petrol that you can use. Aspen is made from alkylate Petrol which is made from the gases from the top of the distillation tower which is then synthetically modified into a liquid again. The result is a petrol that is virtually free from sulphur, benzene and aromatics (solvents). It is chemically inert, meaning that you can leave the fuel in the machinery and your lawnmower will start easily the next spring. An added bonus is that it has a very low odour, so therefore you are breathing much cleaner air when you are mowing your lawn, for example. Lawn mower exhausts are extremely dirty compared to fumes from cars that are usually equipped with catalytic converters. Would you have your afternoon tea behind your cars exhaust pipe? Did not think so...but you would probably happily cut your lawn with your motorised lawn mover, without catalytic converters, using pump fuel full of benzene and solvents. And if you are really green, you are probably cultivating your own vegetables, which will then be covered with fumes... Use Aspen 4 and you will discover a much cleaner and more environmentally way to cut your lawn without the need to change your petrol mower"

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

I guess you have a new part time job with sales at Aspen Ferg???:smile: Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

Naughty! No, but if it saves having to drain down the system and/or doing a carb clean and rebuild, then it might be worth it. Even draining the carb has its pitfalls I have found with seals drying out. Sure, riding over winter is the real answer, but we are about to have the usual plastering of salty slurry applied to our roads and my modern bikes are the tools for those conditions.

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

That Glasgow Elephant Repellent seems to do a good job. Not a lot of Elephants around Glasgow. (somebody had to say it!)

email (option): binnawan@iinet.net.au

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

If the Aspen lawn mower petrol was £2 a litre it would be worth buying, the way fuel prices are rising and the fact it has a long shelf life sounds pretty good, but from what I can see its nearer £6 per litre.

Rob

email (option): robmiller11(a)yahoo.co.uk

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

I could probably get down to around £4.00 per litre if enough people purchased it. Shouldn't really post the stuff though. We carry some of their high octane fuel fuel, but very few buy it.

email (option): pes.sales@btconnect.com

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

['No, but if it saves having to drain down the system...']

Surely you'd still have to drain the system before putting in the storage fuel?...If not you would have a difficult calculation of how far you would have to ride with a mix of the two fuels whilst still adding storage fuel before all the E10 was consumed...That could make your brain hurt!!.:laughing: .

Saying that, after draining the E10 the storage fuel looks like a good 'over winter' option...Looking at all their other fuels I would think cost would rule them out for anything other than competition use or, for example, short local runs on a high compression Triumph engine or similar...Ian

email (option): ian@wright52.plus.com

Re: Valvemaster Fuel Additive

There are quite a few processes that produce petrol as a waste product.
Most of the primary plastic production will produce petrol as a waste by product.
I had some friends who worked at a polly prop plant & none of them ever bought petrol and their bikes ran really well .

In the UK I would imagine the only real problem would be water condensation from air in the float bowl or tank, which is why you fill them to the brim or drain completely and take the taps out

In the USA & OZ things are different where the hotted days evaporate all of the aromatics out of the fuel which then changes the chemistry of the fuel

Some of the Canadians I know tell me the oxygenators they put in winter fuuel can also cause grief .

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