http://www.calendar-365.com/moon/current-moon-phase.html

The Jewish sages, during the time from 200AD to 600AD, changed from using the sightings of the New Moon to using the calculated calendar for the purposes of convenience and worldwide ease of being able to determine the new moon anywhere in the world. This newer teaching of the calendar was stated in the Talmud. Some people stick to the Scriptures and determine a new moon only by sighting it. Most of the Jewish people follow the calculated new moon calendar today.
The biblical way of sighting the “new moon” is by looking for it around sunset at the appointed time 29 days after the last new moon. If you see the sliver of the new moon, it is the new moon, the first day of the next month. If you do not see the new moon, the next day is the 30th day of that month and the new moon or first day of the next month is automatically declared for the evening of the 30th. (There is only 29 or 30 days in each Hebrew month, depending on the sighting of the new moon)
The calendar date of the new moon you are referring to, September 4th, 2013 is the calculated New Moon date, as laid out in the Talmud, the New Moon for this month is first expected to be sighted on the evening of September 6th, making the 7th the first possible day of the next month; If it is not sighted on the evening of the 6th, then the evening of the 7th and day of the 8th will be the declared first day of the next month. (which is most likely to occur this month)
The next very important question is; now which month is it? Simply put, the people who go by the calculated New Moon date believe that the September new moon is the beginning of the 7th month (Tishri). Others believe it is the beginning of the 6th month (Elul). Why the difference? It has to do with when the year is started. Some people believe the New Year is declared by calculation, some declare the new year when the New Moon is sighted when the barley is ripe. This year, they started the year in March (2013), before spring, when the New Moon was still in the winter. With this March starting date, this September New Moon became for them, the beginning of the 7th month (Tishri) which will be still in the summer.
The other way of determining when the new year starts is by using the sun, as described in Genesis 1:14. It clearly states that Years are to be determined using the Sun and Moon. There is an event called the equinox which is where the sun moves directly east to west. It is the determining factor of when it changes from being winter to being spring. In order for the New Year to start, the new moon must be after the spring equinox, hence in the spring. In 2013, the first New Moon after the spring equinox occurred in April. With an April new moon being the first month of the Biblical New Year, the 7th month would then be at the new moon occurring in October in the fall.
Since we believe that according to the Scriptures, the sun, moon and stars are to determine the “days and the years”. it is my understanding that for 2013, the first expected New Moon date for the 6th month (Elul) as stated above is the evening of September 6th. If it is not sighted, the evening of September 7th will be declared the New Moon.The first expected sighting of the New Moon for the 7th month (Tishri) will be the evening of October 6th making October 7th the first day of the month which is also Yom Teruah (The Feast of Trumpets). If it is not sighted, then the evening of the 7th and the 8th of October will be the declared new moon and Yom Teruah (The Feast of Trumpets).
I hope I have helped to answer your questions. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me.
Blessings,
Brother Mark Harris

Robin, thank you for the explanation.
8 elul in history had some very sad days.

A whole lot of people are about to be injured, killed, grieved over the consequences of the sinful judgement of men.
Come quickly Lord Jesus. Come rule over earth Lord Jesus.
God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven, in the name of Jesus, for the sake of God's holy name.
Why should the heathen say "where is their God?"

Isaiah 66:5

The description from Mike is taken from this website

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/feast-date-confusion-explanation/

Fair Use for Information and Discussion Purposes
Use Your Discernment

Here is someone who explains that the new moon will be sighted tomorrow
Nehemia Gordon

Nehemia Gordon
September 4
When is Yom Teruah 2013

Yom Teruah this year will begin at sunset on Saturday September 7, 2013 and continue until sunset on Sunday September 8, 2013.

The new moon will only be potentially visible from Israel on Saturday night September 7, 2013. Visibility is impossible from Israel on September 6, 2013. The last new moon was sighted from Israel on Thursday night August 8, 2013. This makes Saturday night September 7 the 31st evening from the previous sighting. Since a lunar month can only be 29 or 30 days long, Saturday night has to be Yom Teruah by default, whether or not the moon is actually sighted.

Of course, our diligent observers in Israel will do their best to sight the moon and we will make known the results in this newsletter and on Facebook at:
https://www.facebook.com/NehemiaGordon

Most Jews will be observing “Rosh Hashannah” from Wednesday at sunset September 4 until Friday at Sunset September 6. This is based on the Hillel II calendar, established according to rabbinical tradition in 359 CE. The Hillel II calendar is often off by 2 days, but in this case it is clearly off by 3 days. The new moon will be visible from the southern hemisphere on Friday night, but visibility is impossible from Israel until Saturday night. Here are the stats for Israel at sunset:

Friday night: 21 minutes lagtime; 1.58% illumination.
Saturday night: 58 minutes lagtime; 5.17% illumination.[/quote]

I'm hoping for October 7 new moon

Robin, NASA shows that there is a penumbral lunar eclipse on Oct 18. That would be on Yom Kippur maybe, depending on the new moon sighting in Oct;if, October is true Rosh Hashona. I'm glad God knows what He is doing.

From 5 doves, use your discernment

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2013/rauld610-1.htm

In another post Raul's daughter saw fall colors on the trees when she was listening to the Rapture verse being read.

"Oct" means 8- the number of new beginnings.

Gary (bear049 on youtube) was also talking earlier this week, about the calendar being off a month.
I read the US military planning something beginning in October.
Leaves are canceled, weapons assembled, emergency food set aside.
This is being done for FEMA area 3- Washington and surrounding area.

Then there is a dream from a Canadian believer about a bank crisis in October.

Could it be that the devil knows which prophecies that are out there, are from him- giving bogus special watch times. Then, the ones from God- he has monitored and prepared for?

There are a lot of coincidences again use discernment

Rapture movie being release in October 2013

http://micernest.com/scariest-christian-movie-of-the-decade-final-the-rapture-opens-in-theaters-soon/


devil rapture movie for October 2013

http://www.movieinsider.com/m9996/the-occult/



This theater called 'rapture' is putting on a show in October 2013 called 'the collection' get it 'collection'

http://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/news/article/614/rapture_theatre_present_the_collection

rapture horror expo in October 2013

http://vimeo.com/72467288


rapture dj set for October 2013 - notice bowling ball advert with the horn sign of the devil and sign saying join now in the fall, time is running out

http://www.ohmyrockness.com/showdetail.cfm?showid=87441


This work is publishing in October 2013

http://francisgumerlock.com/wp-content/uploads/Rapture-in-the-Apocalypse-of-Elijah-Introduction.pdf

some interesting info

http://jesusiscoming2016.webs.com/whenistherapture.htm