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the movie poll...

... has landed. now grab your overprized popcorn jet packs, put on your 3d glasses of shock, awe and sheer escapism and witness


AMF'S FIRST OFFICIAL MOVIE POLL



100. ERASERHEAD (David Lynch, 1977)




Wide releases: pop elton, netjade




99. LE SAMOURAÏ/THE SAMOURAI (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967)




Wide releases: pop elton, Greg




98. 8½ (Federico Fellini, 1962)




Wide releases: Greg, netjade




97. REQUIEM FOR A DREAM (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)




Wide release: pop elton




96. BARRY LYNDON (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Michael




95. SUNRISE: A SONG OF TWO HUMANS (F.W. Murnau, 1927)




Wide releases: sonofsamiam, Charlie Driggs




94. LA DOLCE VITA (Federico Fellini, 1959)




Wide releases: nicolas, Greg




93. LES ENFANTS DU PARADIS/CHILDREN OF PARADISE (Marcel Carné, 1945)




Wide releases: Greg, Stephan, Matt Schroeder




92. BOOGIE NIGHTS (Paul Thomas Anderson, 1997)




Wide releases: Rune, Harold Wexler




91. NOSFERATU, EINE SYMPHONIE DES GRAUENS (F.W. Murnau, 1922)




Wide release: Moonbeam

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90. DAZED AND CONFUSED (Richard Linklater, 1993)




Wide releases: Rune, Beef Supreme




89. 12 ANGRY MEN (Sidney Lumet, 1957)




Wide release: Matt Schroeder




88. THE GREAT DICTATOR (Charles Chaplin, 1940)




Wide releases: Henrik, Michael, nicolas




87. THE SEARCHERS (John Ford, 1956)




Wide release: Greg




86. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (John Frankenheimer, 1962)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, sonofsamiam, Matt Schroeder




85. DET SJUNDE INSEGLET/THE SEVENTH SEAL (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Greg, John




84. DER HIMMEL ÜBER BERLIN/WINGS OF DESIRE (Wim Wenders, 1987)




Wide releases: Michel, Greg




83. SHORT CUTS (Robert Altman, 1993)




Wide release: John




82. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (Frank Capra, 1939)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Michael




81. HOOP DREAMS (Steve James, 1994)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, sonofsamiam

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Great start.
Right away there is a movie I don't know. Hoop Dreams a three hour long sport documentary. Wow.
Hope there are surprises like that in top 50. I also voted DER HIMMEL ÜBER BERLIN but wasn't among the biggest fans it seems.

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80. DELIVERANCE (John Boorman, 1972)




Wide release: Moonbeam




79. YI YI: A ONE AND A TWO (Edward Yang, 2000)




Wide releases: Charlie Driggs, nicolas




78. GHOST WORLD (Terry Zwigoff, 2001)




Wide releases: John, Rune




77. MEMENTO (Christopher Nolan, 2000)




Wide releases: John, Stephan, BillAdama




76. LADRI DI BICICLETTE/BICYCLE THIEVES (Vittorio De Sica, 1948)




Wide releases: Greg, Michael




75. FIGHT CLUB (David Fincher, 1999)




Wide releases: Stephan, Michael




74. FREAKS (Tod Browning, 1932)




Wide release: Michel




73. RAGING BULL (Martin Scorsese, 1980)




Wide release: Harold Wexler





72. THE DEER HUNTER (Michael Cimino, 1978)




Wide releases: nicolas, Stephan, Michel




71. ROSEMARY’S BABY (Roman Polanski, 1968)




Wide releases: Rune, Moonbeam

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pop elton
I also voted DER HIMMEL ÜBER BERLIN but wasn't among the biggest fans it seems.


That's right, Petri. You're filed under "small release"

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70. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Joel & Ethan Coen, 2007)




Wide releases: nicolas, Rune




69. M (Fritz Lang, 1931)




Wide releases: pop elton, Charlie Driggs




68. DAWN OF THE DEAD (George A. Romero, 1978)




Wide release: Georgie




67. SEN TO CHIHIRO NO KAMIKAKUSHI/SPIRITED AWAY (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)




Wide releases: John, Henrik




66. THE EXORCIST (William Friedkin, 1973)




Wide releases: Georgie, Moonbeam




65. NETWORK (Sidney Lumet, 1976)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, pop elton




64. NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (George A. Romero, 1968)




Wide releases: Georgie, Moonbeam, Charlie Driggs




63. THE EVIL DEAD (Sam Raimi, 1981)




Wide releases: Moonbeam, Beef Supreme, Georgie




62. THE GRADUATE (Mike Nichols, 1967)




Wide releases: Rune, BillAdama, Michael




61. SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN (Gene Kelly/Stanley Donen, 1952)




Wide releases: Henrik, Harold Wexler, Michael

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60. ALIEN (Ridley Scott, 1979)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Beef Supreme




59. THE WIZARD OF OZ (Victor Fleming et al., 1939)




Wide releases: Georgie, Matt Schroeder, John




58. HIGH FIDELITY (Stephen Frears, 2000)




Wide releases: Stephan, Beef Supreme




57. GOODFELLAS (Martin Scorsese, 1990)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Stephan, sonofsamiam




56. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Charlie Driggs, Matt Schroeder, sonofsamiam




55. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (Stanley Kubrick, 1971)




Wide releases: Rune, Michael




54. THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Rob Reiner, 1984)




Wide releases: sonofsamiam, Georgie, Henrik




53. SOME LIKE IT HOT (Billy Wilder, 1959)




Wide releases: Georgie, Henrik




52. PERSONA (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)




Wide releases: Michel, sonofsamiam




51. BONNIE AND CLYDE (Arthur Penn, 1967)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Matt Schroeder, Michael, Michel

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50. HALLOWEEN (John Carpenter, 1978)




Wide releases: Moonbeam, Rune, Beef Supreme




49. MAGNOLIA (Paul Thomas Anderson, 1999)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, pop elton, sonofsamiam, John




48. RUSHMORE (Wes Anderson, 1998)




Wide releases: John, Beef Supreme




47. BLOW-UP (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1966)




Wide releases: netjade, nicolas, Charlie Driggs




46. CIDADE DE DEUS/CITY OF GOD (Fernando Meirelles/Kátia Lund, 2002)




Wide releases: sonofsamiam, BillAdama, Stephan, Charlie Driggs




45. ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND (Michel Gondry, 2004)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Beef Supreme, Stephan




44. THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER (Charles Laughton, 1955)




Wide releases: sonofsamiam, Michel, Harold Wexler, nicolas




43. THE USUAL SUSPECTS (Bryan Singer, 1995)




Wide releases: Stephan, BillAdama, pop elton, Michel




42. AMADEUS (Miloš Forman, 1984)




Wide releases: Rune, John, Moonbeam




41. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (David Lean, 1962)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Stephan

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40. IL BUONO, IL BRUTTO, IL CATTIVO/THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
(Sergio Leone, 1966)





Wide releases: Michael, Henrik, Matt Schroeder, Stephan




39. SHICHININ NO SAMURAI/SEVEN SAMURAI (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Stephan, sonofsamiam, Harold Wexler




38. ANNIE HALL (Woody Allen, 1977)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Michael, Georgie




37. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (Steven Spielberg, 1981)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Matt Schroeder, Michael




36. TOUCH OF EVIL (Orson Welles, 1958)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, netjade, Greg




35. BLUE VELVET (David Lynch, 1986)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Harold Wexler, Michel, John




34. PSYCHO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)




Wide releases: Henrik, Harold Wexler, pop elton, John, nicolas




33. MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL (Terry Gilliam/Terry Jones, 1975)




Wide releases: Michael, BillAdama, sonofsamiam, Rune




32. REAR WINDOW (Alfred Hitchcock, 1953)




Wide releases: sonofsamiam, Henrik, BillAdama, Matt Schroeder




31. BREAKING THE WAVES (Lars von Trier, 1996)




Wide releases: Michel, pop elton, nicolas

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pop elton
Right away there is a movie I don't know. Hoop Dreams a three hour long sport documentary. Wow.


Yeah, I had it top 20 for me. It blew me away when I saw it in theaters and blew me away again when I saw it on DVD. Maybe the best documentary ever.

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Had I submitted a list City of God would have been my number 1. Funny to see Monty Python end up so high.

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30. DOWN BY LAW (Jim Jarmusch, 1986)




Wide releases: nicolas, John, Greg, Michel




29. BRAZIL (Terry Gilliam, 1985)




Wide releases: netjade, Charlie Driggs, nicolas, Michel




28. STAR WARS (George Lucas, 1977)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Matt Schroeder, Georgie




27. DO THE RIGHT THING (Spike Lee, 1989)




Wide releases: Charlie Driggs, Michael, sonofsamiam




26. SCHINDLER’S LIST (Steven Spielberg, 1993)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Stephan, sonofsamiam, Harold Wexler




25. RESERVOIR DOGS (Quentin Tarantino, 1992)




Wide releases: Michael, nicolas, Michel




24. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (Jonathan Demme, 1991)




Wide releases: BillAdama, John, sonofsamiam




23. THE THIRD MAN (Carol Reed, 1949)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, Stephan, Charlie Driggs, Greg, sonofsamiam




22. THE BIG LEBOWSKI (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1998)




Wide releases: Beef Supreme, pop elton, John, Michael




21. IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946)




Wide releases: Michel, Stephan, Michael

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Schindler's List at 26 and Big Lebowski at 22? Son, I am disappoint.

(And I can't believe I forgot to do the right thing!! Facepalm.)

netjade, are you going to be posting individual lists?

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20. MULHOLLAND DRIVE (David Lynch, 2001)




Wide releases: John, pop elton, nicolas, BillAdama




19. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Irvin Kershner, 1980)




Wide releases: BillAdama, sonofsamiam, nicolas, netjade




18. BLADE RUNNER (Ridley Scott, 1982)




Wide releases: Greg, pop elton, Beef Supreme




17. CHINATOWN (Roman Polanski, 1974)




Wide releases: Michael, sonofsamiam, Harold Wexler, nicolas, Matt Schroeder




16. FARGO (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1996)




Wide releases: Michael, Beef Supreme, John, sonofsamiam




15. C’ERA UNA VOLTA IL WEST/ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST
(Sergio Leone, 1968)





Wide releases: Greg, Henrik, Charlie Driggs, Harold Wexler




14. MODERN TIMES (Charles Chaplin, 1936)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Greg, nicolas, Michel, Henrik




13. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST (Miloš Forman, 1975)




Wide releases: Henrik, pop elton, Stephan, Michel, Matt Schroeder




12. THE SHINING (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)




Wide releases: Henrik, nicolas, sonofsamiam, Moonbeam, Michael




11. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)




Wide releases: pop elton, Michael, Matt Schroeder, Henrik , Michel

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Matt Schroeder
netjade, are you going to be posting individual lists?


nj mustn't fight tradition... so, sure i am, Matt.

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A friend of mine who saw Do The Right Thing said it had a pretty negative portrayal of both white and black people. Have I been misled?

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BillAdama
A friend of mine who saw Do The Right Thing said it had a pretty negative portrayal of both white and black people. Have I been misled?


negative, yes, but i think it's pretty accurate.
i mean, that's why it was so controversial at first.
white people thought it was gonna cause riots.
maybe it should've...

greetz, nj.. (your average lousy word thief)

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Awesome, awesome, awesome!

It appears none of my top 5 may make the list, though.

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Moonbeam
Awesome, awesome, awesome!

It appears none of my top 5 may make the list, though.



yet Edward Scissorhands got exactly zzzatt close to touch the fAlMbow...

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Curses! Damn you all for denying it a place in the top 100! Haha.

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10. DR. STRANGELOVE OR: HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING
AND LOVE THE BOMB (Stanley Kubrick, 1964)





Wide releases: BillAdama, netjade, sonofsamiam, Michael, Michel

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9. CITIZEN KANE (Orson Welles, 1941)




Wide releases: Matt Schroeder, sonofsamiam, BillAdama, Harold Wexler, Michel

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Wow, I wasn't expecting Down By Law to finish in the top 100. I'm so used to my albums and songs in polls not showing up on lists so it's awesome to see a lot of people agreeing with some of my favorites! Although, I think good film isn't as subjective as music. It still is but not anywhere near as much as music.

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Great show, netjade!

I hope you have included my votes for "Mulholland Drive" and "Dr. Strangelove". They were my #19 and #16, so shouldn't they be wide releases then?

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Twenty films I haven't seen. Something to work on!

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Wonderful list so far, boys. And brilliant presentation, nj.
No having time enough to participate in this poll almost makes me wanna cry

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Citizen Kane at 9? Son, I am disappoint.

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I haven't seen a lot of these, so it will be a great reference point for me! I'll be sure to check out georgie's individual list too, as he clearly has a sick and twisted horror fascination like me.

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Great list. I'm listening to Isao Tomita's Planets. Great soundtrack of reading this list.
I'm little disappointed that only three movies from Asia are on the list.
Down by Low, Breaking the Waves and Brazil were pleasant surprises (among the many others). Jarmusch is one of those directors who have so many great films that is hard to pick the best (and his films are so similar also). Down by Low is maybe bit different than the rest. I voted it too.

12 movies I haven't seen (well actually 13 because I missed some minutes of Nosferatu).


Seems that those movies which was praised before are all in the list (Night of the Hunter, Eternal Sunshine, Do the Right Thing, 8½...). I should have tout Totoro and Sånger från andra våningen.

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Great list. I'm a little surprised by the number of old films, as most people don't bother about them anymore. But I guess we aren't like most people here.

This list could easily be used as a reference for me. I've seen quite a lot already, and I own some of these on DVD, and also I've copied some from TV. The ones I don't have I can buy. Could be fun.

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8. AMERICAN BEAUTY (Sam Mendes, 1999)




Wide releases: Michael, Stephan, Henrik, Moonbeam, pop elton

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7. THE GODFATHER PART II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)




Wide releases: Harold Wexler, Stephan, sonofsamiam, John, BillAdama

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6. VERTIGO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)




Wide releases: BillAdama, Matt Schroeder, Harold Wexler, Stephan, Charlie Driggs

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Henrik
Great show, netjade!

I hope you have included my votes for "Mulholland Drive" and "Dr. Strangelove". They were my #19 and #16, so shouldn't they be wide releases then?



No worries, Henrik, I did. I just missed how high the former is ranked on your list. In the latter case there were actually five people who have that one higher ranked than you.


thus it's officially "John, pop elton, Henrik, nicolas, BillAdama" for Mulholland Drive now

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5. TAXI DRIVER (Martin Scorsese, 1976)




Wide releases: Michel, nicolas, Michael, netjade, Harold Wexler

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4. CASABLANCA (Michael Curtiz, 1942)




Wide releases: Charlie Driggs, Matt Schroeder, Henrik, Stephan, Moonbeam

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3. THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)




Wide releases: Stephan, Harold Wexler, Matt Schroeder, BillAdama, John

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2. APOCALYPSE NOW (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)




Wide releases: Michel, nicolas, pop elton, Matt Schroeder, Harold Wexler

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And there goes the movie I thought will win this poll.
Only two movies left and I'm not 100% sure what they are. My guess is that those movies are my #6 and #9 but I might be wrong.

edit. Apocalypse Now was my #9 so I guess I know the winner of the game.

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1. PULP FICTION (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)




Wide releases: Michael, John, Harold Wexler, pop elton, Henrik, Matt Schroeder




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What?!? #1 isn't "The Care Bears Movie"?

I DEMAND A RECOUNT

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Matt Schroeder
What?!? #1 isn't "The Care Bears Movie"?

I DEMAND A RECOUNT


Matt, Pulp Fiction is probably fake #1. We must be patient. The Care Bears Movie was my #1 too.

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fxxk!! forgot to include jonmarck's list!

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ok, sorry for that dumb joke. here we go...

1. THE CARE BEARS MOVIE (Arna Selznick, 1985)




Wide releases: pop elton, Matt Schroeder, jonmarck, netjade, Greg, sonofsamiam, nicolas, Harold Wexler, Henrik, basically everyone..


and many, many thanks to everyone who participated in this very interesting and pleasantly surprising poll. cheers..

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netjade
BillAdama
A friend of mine who saw Do The Right Thing said it had a pretty negative portrayal of both white and black people. Have I been misled?


negative, yes, but i think it's pretty accurate.
i mean, that's why it was so controversial at first.
white people thought it was gonna cause riots.
maybe it should've...

greetz, nj.. (your average lousy word thief)


I mean, he described a scene where a black guy is playing music too loud, so the white store owner breaks his boombox, so the black guy assaults him, so the white cop murders him.

The message of this seems to be "Black people are violent obnoxious jerks, but white people are racist murdering jerks".

Spike Lee seems to believe that if you don't give a person a raise because they spend their hours on the clock hanging out with their girlfriend, it's racism. But when my black coworkers see a person get fired for never coming into work, they say it's about time. That's just a matter of rewarding the individuals who work the hardest. The sort of racial incidents you see in Spike Lee movies don't reflect my experiences with either group.

Anyway, great poll. Though I'm a little surprised by some of the ones that made it to the very top. I definitely have a lot of watching to catch up on.

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BillAdama
I mean, he described a scene where a black guy is playing music too loud, so the white store owner breaks his boombox, so the black guy assaults him, so the white cop murders him.


I think that might be a gross oversimplification of that scene. I mean, I could try to justify either party's actions in starting the riot (it was hot, Radio Rahiem's murder was obviously an accident, etc.), but I would probably not be doing justice to any of the characters' true motivations. But I do remember that when I watched the movie, I could relate to how each character acted.

BillAdama
The message of this seems to be "Black people are violent obnoxious jerks, but white people are racist murdering jerks".


I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the film's message. White people might indeed be racist, but Lee doesn't let any race off the hook. There's a scene in the middle of the movie that, when I first saw it, seemed like an odd inclusion. Looking back, it could have been one of the most important ones. The scene I'm talking about is where a person of just about every race lets loose a torrent of racial epithets. The purpose of this scene (in my mind) was Lee's way of saying that EVERYONE has racial prejudices, whether they admit it or not.

Frankly, this is an idea that isn't easy for a lot of people to accept (myself included), but as open-minded as I like to think of myself, there are times when I might think something racially offensive. My immediate reaction is then to think, "What the hell was THAT thought all about?" But the fact remains that it's there.

I've got more thoughts I'd like to get down, but I'm a little short on time. Maybe someone can pick up the discussion...

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there is a severe lack of schwarzenegger on this list

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I guess I'll just have to see the movie. Add it to my list of about 200 classic movies I've missed out on thus far.

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I was hoping that more post-1970 European films would make the list. There is no Dogma film and directors Jeunet, Haneke, Kusturica, Benigni, Moodysson, Kieslowski, Kaurismäki, Almodovar, Herzog and Tarkovsky are all missing. No fans here?

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Awesome job as always, netjade!

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nj, are you planning to post individual lists ?

if you're not, we could post them ourselves ?

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Great job nj.

Henrik
I was hoping that more post-1970 European films would make the list. There is no Dogma film and directors Jeunet, Haneke, Kusturica, Benigni, Moodysson, Kieslowski, Kaurismäki, Almodovar, Herzog and Tarkovsky are all missing. No fans here?

I voted Jeunet, Haneke, Kusturica (2 movies), Moodysson, Kieslowski, Kaurismäki(2 movies), Herzog (I'm schocked that Aguirre isn't in the list), Almodovar (2 movies) and Tarkovsky. And Benignis movie was close.


Edit. I voted also many other 'new' European movies. Movies by Roy Anderson, Tomas Alfredson, Wolfgang Petersen, Leos Carax, Sylvain Chomet, Bertolucci and of course Von Trier + many others.
I don't remenber all the Asian directors I voted but there were at least Kitano, Ki Duk, Miike, Kiyoshi Kurosawa, Seijun Suzuki, Siu-Tung Ching, Miyazaki and
Jafar Panahi.

I still think the list is good. (No Dark Knight, Shawsank Redemption or Lord of the Rings.)

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That The Shawshank Redemption was missing was the best positive surprise for me. I doubt anything has ever been as overrated as that movie.

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Henrik
I was hoping that more post-1970 European films would make the list. There is no Dogma film and directors Jeunet, Haneke, Kusturica, Benigni, Moodysson, Kieslowski, Kaurismäki, Almodovar, Herzog and Tarkovsky are all missing. No fans here?


I had Herzog and Haneke in my top 4.

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Rune
That The Shawshank Redemption was missing was the best positive surprise for me. I doubt anything has ever been as overrated as that movie.


You could be right with that one. But allow me to offer a second place in the overrated category: American History X. VERY happy to see AHX not on this list.

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pop elton
I don't remenber all the Asian directors I voted but there were at least Kitano, Ki Duk, Miike, Kiyoshi Kurosawa, Seijun Suzuki, Siu-Tung Ching, Miyazaki and Jafar Panahi.

I still think the list is good. (No Dark Knight, Shawsank Redemption or Lord of the Rings.)


Which Kim Ki Duk did you vote for? He's one of my favorites, but I was hesitant to put anything of his on my list...

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Matt Schroeder
pop elton
I don't remenber all the Asian directors I voted but there were at least Kitano, Ki Duk, Miike, Kiyoshi Kurosawa, Seijun Suzuki, Siu-Tung Ching, Miyazaki and Jafar Panahi.

I still think the list is good. (No Dark Knight, Shawsank Redemption or Lord of the Rings.)


Which Kim Ki Duk did you vote for? He's one of my favorites, but I was hesitant to put anything of his on my list...

Spring Summer... It was an easy choice. Ki Duk has couble very good movies (Spring... is definetely my favourite and third or fourth best movie of the decade). On the other hand he has also many **-**½ movies.

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Rune
That The Shawshank Redemption was missing was the best positive surprise for me. I doubt anything has ever been as overrated as that movie.


I'd say Star Wars and The Godfather are the most overrated to me.

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Wow, what a GREAT list! I'm not much of a Pulp Fiction fan, so I'm sad it's at #1, though I fully expected in Top 5.

But on positive notes...it's just fantastic to see Hoop Dreams, Sunrise, and Persona all in there! (Though no Wild Strawberries, sniff.)

For those curious about Hoop Dreams -- it's a sport documentary in name only. It's utterly amazing the twists and turns the story takes...if someone wrote it as fiction it would be tossed aside as unbelievable. I'm from the Chicago area, and remember reading about the 2 kids in the paper, so that added to my appreciation, but again, you don't have to be any sort of basketball fan to love this. Both my wife and mom could care less about basketball, and both were moved to tears by Hoop Dreams.

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Ooh, just noticed that Kubrick landed at 10, 11, 12. Crazy how things like that work out.

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Moonbeam


I'd say Star Wars and The Godfather are the most overrated to me.


Yeah, those two also, but The Shawshank Redemption being number 1 on IMDB is just laughable. It's not a bad movie, it's just not good.

People's obsession with Star Wars is beyond me. It's a stupid movie. It looks bad, and everything else is wrong with it as well.

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Great list, and great work, netjade.

I'm happy to have done my part to boost BARRY LYNDON into the top 100; it's by far the most underrated Kubrick and my personal favorite (made my top 5). My #1 film, Scorsese's MEAN STREETS, didn't make the cut, though - I must be the only person who voted for it. Oh, well. At least Marty made his presence known here.

I, too, am surprised that SHAWSHANK and THE LORD OF THE RINGS aren't here (the former wasn't on my list, the latter was). I'm also a little surprised that, given the large number of established critical-canon classics that made our list (e.g., BICYCLE THIEVES, LES ENFANTS DU PARADIS, SUNRISE, the Bergman films), there's no Renoir - a top 100 list without either THE RULES OF THE GAME or GRAND ILLUSION? Sacre bleu!

Henrik's mention of Kieslowski triggers my most immediate regret about my own list: the fact that I didn't include DEKALOG is inexcusable. I once devoted an entire weekend to watching Kieslowski's 10-part examination of the Ten Commandments in a contemporary context, and it was a transcendent experience. (But I still haven't seen Three Colours.)

For those wondering if I'm as compulsive about movies as I am about music, I've seen 95 of these films. So now I need to see the rest.

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Harold Wexler
For those wondering if I'm as compulsive about movies as I am about music, I've seen 95 of these films. So now I need to see the rest.


Okay, I'll bite. What are the missing five?

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Matt Schroeder
Harold Wexler
For those wondering if I'm as compulsive about movies as I am about music, I've seen 95 of these films. So now I need to see the rest.


Okay, I'll bite. What are the missing five?


AMADEUS, THE EVIL DEAD, DAWN OF THE DEAD, THE SEVENTH SEAL, and THE GREAT DICTATOR.

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I know this movie didn't make the cut, but I nominate this as the best scene from a movie ever.

With the inclusion of the awesome Riz Ortolani song "Much More", it's a perfect synthesis of cinematic and musical glory and hence is perfect for a movie thread on a music forum.

Behold the wonder!

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Great list netjade! Thanks for that!

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If you guys wanna delve deeper into cinematic territory, I recommend you two other sites similar to the TSPDT recommended in the links section: phi-phenomenon.org and films101.com! The guys have done quite the same for the movies to what Henrik has done for pop music!

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o.m.
If you guys wanna delve deeper into cinematic territory, I recommend you two other sites similar to the TSPDT recommended in the links section: phi-phenomenon.org and films101.com! The guys have done quite the same for the movies to what Henrik has done for pop music!


I wholeheartedly echo every word of this post - those two sites are my favorite movie list sites as well. As o.m. indicates, both Phi-Phenomenon and Films101 are one-man sites dedicated to compiling extensive lists of the greatest films of all time, synthesizing tons of critics' lists in much the same way that Acclaimed Music does for albums and songs. The main difference between the two (besides the fact that Phi seems to incorporate some non-critical lists into the mix) is the frequency with which they're updated: Films101.com is regularly updated, sometimes on a weekly basis, while Phi-Phenomenon (a much more bare-bones affair) is only updated once a year - and this year's update is severely delayed for some reason, although the new list is at least available in printable form.

I've taken it upon myself to create a spreadsheet combining the rankings for the top 2500 movies on each list (for Films101 I used a snapshot from June of this year as a cutoff point, mostly because the site had just added a "1000 Movies to See Before You Die" list that the GUARDIAN printed in '07). I have a top 1001 list, plus 250 honorable mentions, derived from that spreadsheet, and I'd already been thinking about typing it up and posting it on the forum. Now that someone else has laid the groundwork by plugging the two sites, I REALLY want to do that. Any interest?

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phi-phenomenon's list is crap. there's only about a dozen non-english movies in the top 100. also, braveheart is somehow in the top 100.

films101 is a good list and site.

i'd recommend www.sensesofcinema.com (check out the list of "great directors.") good articles.

and www.filmref.com which groups directors by genre, themes and imagery. also has good articles on lots of movies.

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Sounds awesome Harold! That would be super interesting to see the rank that both sites give to any movie! If you can include that in your spreadsheet! But weren't you tempted to include the 1000 movies from THEY SHOOT PICTURES, DON'T THEY? That might avoid to have too many ties; I mean if 3 different lists are thrown in the mix! I can't wait to see the result!

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o.m.
Sounds awesome Harold! That would be super interesting to see the rank that both sites give to any movie! If you can include that in your spreadsheet! But weren't you tempted to include the 1000 movies from THEY SHOOT PICTURES, DON'T THEY?


The problem with that is that TSPDT only ranks 1000 movies, and I wanted a larger pool to work from. The Phi-Phenomenon list has included slightly over 2500 films for the last few years, so I took the top 2500 from there plus the top 2500 from Films101 (and, since Films101 numbers its movies sequentially - e.g., if two films are tied at #99, the next film after that is #100 instead of #101 and so on into infinity - the most time-consuming part of this process for me was figuring out what the ACTUAL ranks are for the Films101 top 2500).

As similar as the lists are in a lot of ways, there are more than enough differences for a combination of the two to be illuminating. As Greg indicates in his dismissal of the Phi list as "crap," Phi is, shall we say, somewhat more populist than the more art-oriented Films101. Let's put it this way: when I combine the two lists, the Michael Bay films disappear. I'll say this, though - the Phi top 1000 is the only list I can find on the web that actually contains every single title that made it into our own AM Movie Poll top 100. So it's got that going for it, which is nice (to quote another popular favorite that ranks high on Phi but is nowhere to be found on Films101).

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Are the individual lists coming, or should we post our own lists?

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Rune
Are the individual lists coming, or should we post our own lists?


apologies... will be back to my base camp in a couple of days with full access to me data bank... then I'm going to post all individual lists plus a little kinda director's cut bonus with Miguel's list taken into account as well.. nj

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Here's a list of all the movies I've seen for the first time in the last week:

Pulp Fiction
Casablanca
The Rules Of The Game
Chinatown
Taxidriver
Being John Malkovitch
Yi Yi

Here's the pile of DVDs on my desk:
Sophie's Choice
Seven Samurai
Rashomon
Apocalypse Now
Fargo

You guys rock.

I really want 8 1/2 and a couple Bergman films, but I find they're all wrapped up in the 'Criterion collection' and not available for a reasonable price. Why should I pay $40 for one movie? What am I paying, $15 for the movie, $25 for the commentary?

My current 'top priority' list of movies to get is:
Intolerance (1916)
Battleship Potempkin (1925) (ne)
The General (1926)
Sunrise (1927)
The Passion Of Joan Of Arc (1928) (ne)
City Lights (1931)
L'Atalante (1934) (ne)
Gone With The Wind (1939)
Bicycle Thieves (1948) (ne)
The Third Man (1949)
Sunset Blvd (1950)
Tokyo Story (1953) (ne)
Night Of The Hunter (1955)
The Searchers (1957)
Touch Of Evil (1958)
North By Northwest (1959)
Some Like It Hot (1959)
Breathless (1959) (ne)
Rio Bravo (1959)
Psycho (1960)
8 1/2 (1963) (ne)
Persona (1966) (ne)
Goodfellas (1990)
Schindler's List (1993)
Spirited Away (2001) (ne)

Any thoughts on additions/subtractions from that list?

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If you can get Netflix do it for the Criterion Collection. It's not about the commentary, it's about the mastering of the films. There's a huge difference between the Criterion versions of old films and previous releases. Netflix has almost every Criterion release the only ones I've ever purchased is Rushmore and Royal Tennenbaums, but I've probably seen about 1/4 of the collection.

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The problem with that of course is if I end up liking it I'll want to buy it anyway.

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I'm a big Criterion collector; that's where all my money goes. And while their titles are definitely pricy, it's all a matter of if you think it's worth it. Like John said, with Criterion it's all about the mastering of the film. With the exception of only a few titles (the Samurai trilogy immediately springs to mind), the picture and audio quality is top-notch. If you want to see and hear the movie the way the filmmakers wanted the movie to be seen and heard, Criterion is the way to go.

Supplements are the other area where Criterion shines. Commentaries are by people who know what they're talking about, and there are usually a lot of extras that provide a lot of insight into the film. Sometimes Criterion will even go overboard and provide some things you wouldn't expect from a DVD. Their release of Short Cuts contains a book of the however-many Raymond Carver short stories that the movie is based on. Their releases of The Furies and The Man Who Fell to Earth both contain the book that the movie is based on.

Of course, if supplements aren't your cup of tea, then I guess that would probably be wasted on you. But like you said, there are a lot of movies in the Collection that I bought simply because it's a Criterion, and they turned out to be real gems (Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, Fishing with John, The Bank Dick, Mr. Arkadin, Green for Danger, Robinson Crusoe on Mars, Twenty-Four Eyes, and The Hit, to name a few). And unfortunately, some titles are only available from Criterion, so if you like the movie, you'll have to bite the bullet with the price.

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What? There is no Norbit on this list? This list fails.


Anyways, only seen 40 of the movies on this list. Need to do some more watching...

I was pleasantly surprised to see both Dawn of the Dead and Night of the Living Dead on the list.

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I've been finding a few cheaper versions of a few films on Amazon. Like 8 1/2 and Persona. I don't mind a slight deficit in video or audio quality so long as there aren't hack translations or anything. Commentaries and extras are nice but they aren't worth a doubling of the price when you make $12.50/hour. Maybe after I'm done with my degree and get a programming job it'll be worth it.

My biggest surprise on the list was Evil Dead.

I would not have been surprised to see Evil Dead II or Army of Darkness because those are deliberately silly and over the top. The first one though seemed like they were actually trying to make a serious horror flick. The second seemed like a parody of the first and then Army of Darkness was like them going all in with the silliness.

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Amazon, Borders and Barnes and Noble have 50% sales on a selection of Criterions pretty often which drops them down to the price of a normal DVD or less.

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Hey Harold,the guy at PHI-PHENOMENON has finally updated all the sections on his site!