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List is still terrible. What a crap magazine.
Although I quite like the list, and do like Pavement (Don't worry, Tim, unlike other(s) I still hold you in high regard. Not that you were worried, though), I have to admit it is a gray area to say it's an indie rock list and include the likes of De La Soul and Brian Eno. Stick to your rules, Henrick.
I meant Henrik of course. Now we're even I guess. lol.
This coming from someone who has some grudge against a band who Pavement can't even hold a candle to, Vampire Weekend. Anyone who trashes a band so creative like Vampire Weekend for some band that only became popular cause we had no one else to turn to after Pixies broke up isn't even in my book period. The guy couldn't sing if his life depended on it. The whole noise band thing had been played to death by the time Pavement had come around but fortunatly for Pavement they came in just at the right time when everyone had been done already. No emotion, no heart, just recycled noise that we'd been listening to for years no only a half assed version of that. Sonic Youth could write better music if the entire band were in a coma. In fact Pavement sound like Sonic Youth in a coma. Vampire Weekend ROCKS!!!!! We all love them. They we're #3 overall and that one brilliant album of their is better than Pavement's entire pathetic catalog of crap.
Well I guess ten years from now we'll see who was remembered. pavement or Vampire weekend. Talent wise Pavement crushes them.
Vampire weekend are just gay, late-talking heads wannabies!. They have no backbone, and are mostly heard at preppy university costume parties. I picture Vampire weekend as a band that will one day be doing commercials for fish and chip franciases.
Did anyone see them on SNL? They were terrible, and the spoon up there ass look they're going for, did not go over well.
I do however believe they have talent. But they like alot of bands that have talent, need some direction. There self titled was unfocus, sloppy, and far to self indulgent. Like I said months ago. They need to sit down by a record player and have someone like Elvis Costello force feed them inspiration. THEN >>>MAYBE>>>> they might be decent.
I think Paul Simon would be a better influence to them than Elvis Costello.
Maybe...Point is, they need some to nurtured. Hell breast milk would bring these boys full swing!
Need to be*
Kevin, I don't want to be Mr. PC (not talking about the Coltrane song, either) here, but re: your comments about Vampire Weekend, it's kind of not cool to say that a band is "gay." With the possible exception of Antony and the Johnsons.
We already had this same exact conversation with the same exact participants early last year.
Here's the link: http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/824315
Go to March 20, lol
P.S. I think it's also OK to call Scissor Sisters gay.
OK OK....Im sorry once again. I'll call them fruity!
The thing that I really can't understand about this so-called debate is this: Pavement vs. Vampire Weekend? Really? Those are the terms of comparison? OK, then, how about this - who's better, Pavement or Aretha Franklin? Vampire Weekend or Benny Goodman? It's like asking whether Jerry Lee Lewis is better than the Adverts. It isn't apples and oranges, it's apples and mailboxes.
And, again, to follow up on that similar thread from last year: whether or not there's anything "gay" or "girly" or "fruity" about VW's sound (like just about everyone else except Kevin, I don't really hear it, myself), thinking that using those words passes for a serious musical discussion is really kind of ... well, I was going to say "douchey," but I don't want to insult feminine hygiene products...
I will say one thing, though: you know that Rufus Wainwright song-by-song replication of Judy Garland's JUDY AT CARNEGIE HALL that he performed a couple of years ago and released as a live album?
Man, that's gotta be the gayest record of all time...
Hey! I wasnt the one who compare them to Pavement. I simply said "They could benefit from listened to a band like Pavement" They could get some ideas and perhaps some inspiration from them. I also said they should listen to some Tom Waits. I never said anything about Comparisons. HE BRANG IT UP!
But as far as personal opinions go: YES I DO LIKE PAVEMENT MORE THE VAMPIRE WEEKEND.
All Vampire Weekend needs is a kick in the ass, some guts, some balls if you will; and they might be a decent band IN MY EYES.
Its not like I trashed them in my review. In my Newspaper article I gave them 1 and a half outa 5. It wasnt a ZERO!
Did you call them gay or fruity in the article? And where's the Web link to it so that we can all be enlightened? Every newspaper in the world has a Web site now.
I wasn't going to bring up Vampire Weekend at all. I like them but there was no point in arguing with some kid who kept ripping into them. I was detecting some rudeness in the group as well but I was going to let it go. It's when I was attacked personally that I brought up Vampire Weekend in comparison to Pavement. If you read AMG you'll see them compare VW to Pavement in the comparison section and I thought that was totally blasphemous. So I just brought up the fact that for someone who rips into VW everytime he sees them listed, to criticize me for not liking Pavement is ridiculous since Pavement were these halfassed Johnnycomelatelys who are one of the most undeserving bands to be listed as #1 on any list. Unless it's the list of most overrated college nerdbands of all time. But if you like them that's your choice. I just feel vocals are an important part in making good music for any genre. Which is why Tom Waits would be the last person I'd want influencing my music. If he wants to be like VWs personal Yoda he might as well be since Yoda is who he sounds like. Tom Waits sings the way that Amy Whinehouse looks.
OK...now you've entered personal territory. TOM WAITS! Don't go there pal. Tom waits is one of the most influencial, Greatest Song writers, Greatest singers this side of the fukin moon.
You can't compare VW to Tom waits, and thats not what I was doin. I said they should get some tips (LYRICALLY). To think they could be anywhere's close to as good as tom waits, is a joke in anyones eyes.
You need to be takin out behind a barn and shot.
"list of most overrated college nerdbands of all time"
TV on the radio
The New Pornographers Yo La Tango
The Hold Steady
All bands making music today that are on Blenders list, that VP could hold a candle to. Its not even up for discussion.
You can only be subjective about music to a point.
It feels like your comparing the spice girls to the Beatles.
You honestly think I was comparing Tom Waits to VW? I don't think so. I was comparing Tom Waits to Yoda or the Cookie Monster. C is for cookie that's good enough for me. I wouldn't dream of comparing Tom Waits to a gifted musician who can actually sing. I don't argue with children anyway so go back to listening to the Muppets on Radio Disney or as you like to call them Tom Waits or whatever. On second thought even Hilary Duff is to mature for someone like you.
Enough of this.