With the album results done, the song results are up. The format will be almost the same, except for the inclusion of youtube videos for most songs (I reckon some Prince songs may be hard to find). I'll probably post them 5 at a time.
Biggest fans will still be people who've placed the album in their top 25, unless there are more than 5 people who put it in their top 25 in which case I'll take the 5 highest rankings.
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Sonofsamiam and Honorio: I went to my parents' house for the weekend and took the comments file with me on a USB-stick, but the order of the comments seem to be all screwed up. Could you resend the comments to neoptolemos.com@gmail.com so I can include them in the posting of these songs? Sorry for the inconvenience, but there's some really good comments from both of you.. it would be a shame to not have them included.
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Ah, nevermind. I see what I did now, pasted them all one row too high, which after reordering them made it seem like a large mess. I will proceed with the first 5 songs in a little bit.
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#100
AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long (1980)
Score: 817 points
Biggest fans: Nicolas (#14), Stephan (#14), Harold Wexler (#1
Comments: A masterpiece of minimalism, performance art, and making repetition beautiful. The references to answering machines and other early-‘80s "modernities" only make it more enjoyable. (I wonder how well such early oughts references will play out 25 years down the road? I'm looking for my 8-minute ironic pop ode to texting, stat!) (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1980 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 56
#99
The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up (1981)
Score: 823 points
Biggest fans: Greg Rumpff (#13), SuperFurry (#16), Miguel (#1
Comments: None
Place in the 1981 poll: 9
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 85
#98
Mission Of Burma - That's When I Reach For My Revolver (1981)
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Well, fuck me running. It's like I'm retarded today, pressed the wrong button while in the middle of editing the biggest fans. I'll just give you the correct biggest fans and save the rest for tomorrow. Sigh.
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Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach For My Revolver: John (#6), Harold Wexler (#14)
The Replacements - Alex Chilton: John (#7), Lonesomepanda (#17)
Metallica - Master Of Puppets: John (#14), Sonofsamiam (#14), Henrik (#20)
Honorio's comment for 'Start Me Up': Tired self-parody of earlier triumphs. Start me up? Shut it off.
Honorio's comment for 'Master of Puppets': This epic has everything that metal could hope to achieve – brute strength, virtuosic playing, heavy lyrics that actually mean something, smart use of dynamics, beautiful calming moments that set you up for more brute strength, etc. What the hell happened to this band?
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Stephan, I put Alex Chilton at 19 not 17 and should be on the biggest fans of Master of Puppets (put it #12).
I hope I haven't messed with the Songs ID...
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Greg, you and I are totally in sync on that "O Superman" ... thing. (I can't even call it a song). And I actually quite like Laurie Anderson's "Strange Angels"
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Sorry Stephan but the comments you posted on "Start Me Up" and "Master of Puppets" are not mine. Just resent you my comments to both stephan@neoptolemos.com and neoptolemos@gmail.com
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I would think that John would be more an Alex Chilton guy ! Don't know for the other one.
Quite a deception to see Alex Chilton that low, one of my favourite discovery of the poll.
Sad for Master of Puppets too, but I'm less surprised.
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O Superman had been my #100 for a long time, until in the last day for sending the lists I heard it for the 3rd time and it jumped to #88! It's a much bizarre song, cause although it had everything to be completely awful, it's able to grow on you each audition. I remember in my first listening of the song it seemed to be neverending!
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I didn't vote, but I wish I would have now seeing that 4 of the worst 5 would have likely made my top 25. (Come on! I love AC/DC!) And yeah, O Superman would have been 100 for me too.
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O Superman wasn't my 100 because I didn't vote on 10-11 songs but it was the worst on my list. What the heck? Must have had a ton of high votes. I doubt it gets out of the 90 range though.
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Yep, the comment for "You Shook Me..." is actually my comment for "O Superman" (which is GREAT, you heathens!) - however, I much prefer the comment just where it is at this point.
Also, the quotes attributed to Honorio were mine. I want credit for that "Start Me Up" slag!
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Yes, yes, yes!!!! AC/DC can burn in hell for that song! If I had to make a list of my least favorite songs of all time, "You Shook Me All Night Long" would be in the top 10! Nauseating vocals (and I like some weird voices), cringe-worthy machismo posturing and its adoption as some sort of bar anthem for the drunk and delusional puts it over the top!
So nicolas, you CAN blame me for the hatred! I'll willfully own up to it! I know that I'm in the vast minority with that opinion (as I am with many other of my musical opinions), but it's my loss, I suppose!
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I had never heard "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" or "Alex Chilton" before, but they both impressed me when I listened to them, and none of them made the bottom quarter for me in this highly competitive poll. I found that I really do love most of these 100 songs, and it's hard to fathom ranking a song that I quite enjoy as low as 80 in "Master of Puppets". Basically, great job in picking, everyone! I even found the first Dylan song that I like!
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My wife is a huge AC/DC fan and I really don't like much from them. I like it when I haven't heard it long enough but I can't really take Bon Scott or Brian Johnson's voice for too long.
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Jesus! look at all the comments, and we're only five songs into this list.
Quick poll question: Which is worse, "O Superman" or the movie "Superman 4"? I'm actually going to go with the movie on this one, although both make me want to go back in time and slap Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
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"O Superman" made it to a nice #26 on my list. Immediately disarming and moving, it's one of those songs where I can remember the first time I heard it, and I feel like a more enlightened person for it!
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I found it disarming, too. But that's probably because I tried to gnaw off my arms in an effort to distract myself from what was happening in my ears. Just kidding ... well, sorta.
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I certainly remember the first time I heard 'O Superman' but not in a good way - it was my #100. I think AC/DC were #98 or #99. Damn - with all these low votes for 'O Superman',there must some fairly high ones to drag it up - it will have to be the most polarizing song of the top 100.
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I'm really sorta shocked people hate "O Superman" so much. Little bit of ambient, little bit of minimalism, both pathos and humor in there. And possibly the least likely Top 10 hit ever?
(Wonder how it would fare on here if David Byrne had done it?)
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Hey, boys, fascinating debate. ‘O Superman’ vs. ‘You Shook Me All Night Long’. I mean, cool vs. hot, brain vs. balls, innovation vs. tradition. Well, I’m not a particular fan on any of the artists, although I (moderately) enjoy both “Big Science” and “Back in Black”. Btw, “Back in Black”, the song, could be a better choice, with an intelligent riff, if I’m allowed to use “intelligent” and “AC/DC” within he same sentence. But in my case the election is crystal clear: Laurie was my #65 y AC/DC #98 (sorry Nicolas)
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'O Superman' is a little over 11% more popular than 'You Shook Me All Night Long' on this forum. Next 5 songs will be up in a bit. Hopefully no mistakes this time.
Comments: What once seemed edgy is now so boring. And that headband … for shame, Mr. Knopfler, for shame. (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1985 poll: 9
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 419
#91
The Replacements - I Will Dare (1984)
Score: 896 points
Biggest fans: Harold Wexler (#12), John (#16), LonesomePanda (#1 , tremolo (#19), Rocky Raccoon (#22)
Comments: This distills everything good about them – it's ragged yet tuneful, rocking but with an air of exhaustion. And it stands out of time. (Sonofsamiam)
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Glad to see Laurie in top 90. Hope she's in top 85 (I guess it's impossible to be higher with 907 (or 908) points.)
I was wondering are we starting again with the Stones but not this time. #99 is good place to them too.
AC/DC was my #99 so I think this list has started with right songs.
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I like "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" well enough, but I really wish "Shout" had been in the top 100. Or "Head Over Heels", but my affection for that song is irrevocably tied to its use in the brilliant high-school tracking shot in Richard Kelly's DONNIE DARKO (which also makes startlingly effective use of "The Killing Moon" and "Under the Milky Way").
Comments: A masterpiece of minimalism, performance art, and making repetition beautiful. The references to answering machines and other early-‘80s "modernities" only make it more enjoyable. (I wonder how well such early oughts references will play out 25 years down the road? I'm looking for my 8-minute ironic pop ode to texting, stat!) (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1988 poll: 7
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 69
#87
Run-D.M.C. - Walk This Way (1986)
Score: 916 points
Biggest fans: Toni (#11), Nicolas (#12), SuperFurry (#17)
Comments: None
Place in the 1986 poll: 7
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 9
#86
Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls (1985)
Score: 917 points
Biggest fans: Greg (#16), Greg Rumpff (#17), Henrik (#17), Adrian (#25), Toni (#25)
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Interestingly, to add to the AC/DC vs Laurie discussion, Laurie won the overall battle but does seem to have the most 'haters'. O Superman got a total of 5 #100 spots. AC/DC only had 2.
Comments: Where MacColl took Billy Bragg's lovely song, added a verse, some production gloss, a decidedly female take, an accentuation on melody, and therefore absolutely kicked the ass of (the admittedly fine) original all over the room. One of the great ‘'80s singles from an artist that doesn't get nearly her proper due. (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1983 poll: 9
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 313
#84
R.E.M. - So. Central Rain (198
Score: 931 points
Biggest fans: Andre (#4), Miguel (#22), Michel (#24)
Comments: None
Place in the 1988 poll: 9
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 389
#83
The Jam - That's Entertainment (1980)
Score: 942 points
Biggest fans: Michel (#6), John (#17)
Comments: None
Place in the 1980 poll: 6
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 71
#82
The Stone Roses - Fools Gold (1989)
Score: 948 points
Biggest fans: Andre (#7), Fred (#15), Netjade (#16)
Comments: None
Place in the 1989 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 18
#81
Public Enemy - Don't Believe The Hype (198
Score: 959 points
Biggest fans: Honorio (#10), Adrian (#11), otisredding (#17), SuperFurry (#25)
Comments: Every musician in his right mind accepts gladly the hype. Probably they wouldn’t admit it easily, but I can imagine them looking to the end of year lists to see their position. But not Public Enemy, even when they really were talking about the hype from the mass media they slipped a line like this one: “Writers treat me like Coltrane, insane”. Amazing. (Honorio)
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Dammit, my 3 favourite discoveries of the poll are out ! Billy Bragg and the 2 Replacement Songs (while I really don't like Unsatisfied...)
Since the discoveries I like tend to make bad scores, This Mortail Coil should come soon ^^
(I think that are 4 of the 5 songs which I have discovered AND really liked, considering that I had never heard about 30 songs of the poll)
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#80
Elvis Costello - I Want You (1986)
Score: 962 points
Biggest fans: Henrik (#6), Fred (#15), Netjade (#20), Adrian (#21)
Comments: The best of all stalker songs? (Sonofsamiam) The most harsh and intense love song, about a love that scares him to death, about the hurting of betrayal. “I want you / I’m not ashamed to say I cried for you”. (Honorio)
Place in the 1986 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 159
#79
Public Enemy - Bring The Noise (1987)
Score: 963 points
Biggest fans: Netjade (#3), Sonofsamiam (#3)
Comments: Still one hell of a statement of intent, despite, or perhaps because of, references of Yoko Ono, Sonny Bono, and Anthrax. (Sonofsamiam)
Biggest fans: Greg (#2), Miguel (#4), Moonbeam (#25)
Comments: Those ethereal guitar sounds may come from the 50s but created a ghostly atmosphere contemporary and in par with David Lynch disturbing universes. (Honorio)
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Bring the Noise that low is an absolute travesty.
Also a travesty - I misread/assumed/subliminally hoped that the version of "A New England" was Kirsty MacCool's effervescently poppy version rather than Bragg's original. I mean, great song either way, but Kirsty wipes the floor with Billy.
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Stephan, some tiny mistakes about the comments: the one for “Black Steel” was not mine and my comment that you posted for “More Than This” was really for “Wicked Game”.
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I'm kind of conflicted on Wicked Game. I think the guitar part of the song is beautiful, but the gushingly-oversensitive-yet-obviously-insincere vocals are symbolic of everything wrong with 80's synth-pop.
Most of my favorites are still in.
Hey, has anyone ever thought of doing a music video poll? I haven't really watched any since I gave up on MTV in 1998 or so, but a few of them I remember are brilliant.
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I have 15 rap albums on my top 100 (so I guess I'm among the rare hip-hop listeners of the forum) but I'm not a great fan of PE... I like old school hip-hop (especially what I have discovered thanks to the pitchfork 500, Slick Rick, Funky 4+1, other Grandmaster Flash than The Message...), I like the cold sound of the Wu Tang, I like the Daisy Age, I like electronic hip-hop such as Spank Rock, I like recent inventive rap (Missy, Jay-Z, Outkast, Kanye...) and I am a huge fan of the Beastie Boys. And still, even if I see how much all of them are related in a way or an other to PE legacy, I still don't find much of their song appealing... don't like their flow, don't like their samples...
I even prefer Tricky version of Black Steel, while it is my favourite PE Song !
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#75
Queen & David Bowie - Under Pressure (1981)
Score: 973 points
Biggest fans: Snusmumrik (#5), LonesomePanda (#10), Jonah (#11), Toni (#16)
Comments: None
Place in the 1981 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 164
#74
Bob Dylan - Blind Willie McTell (1983)
Score: 975 points
Biggest fans: Sonofsamiam (#4), Mo (#11), John (#13), Nicolas (#15), otisredding (#22)
Comments: It's testament to how off-track Dylan got in the ‘80s that he decided not to release this, surely his best, most major work in years. Thank goodness for the Bootleg sessions, so more people could be exposed to this incredible, note-perfect homage to the blues master. (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1983 poll: 4
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 230
#73
Talking Heads - Burning Down The House (1983)
Score: 976 points
Biggest fans: John (# , Miguel (#13), Jonah (#16), Fred (#1
Comments: This sounded like it came from a completely other world when it blasted out of my little radio in 1983. Takes the polyrhythms explored on Remain in Light and sweetens them up a bit for pop radio, though the whole thing is pretty insane, Byrne's vocal especially. (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1983 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 179
#72
Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A. (1984)
Score: 976 points
Biggest fans: Stephan (# , Nicolas (#10), Snusmumrik (#14), Harold Wexler (#15), Greg Rumpff (#20)
Comments: None
Place in the 1984 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 27
Sorry about that lovely nationalistic video, the normal one can't get embedded.
#71
Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing (1982)
Score: 987 points
Biggest fans: Miguel (#1), Greg Rumpff (#14), otisredding (#16), Nicolas (#20), Fred (#21)
Comments: The swan song of Gaye was one of his best songs, with pure sensuality emanating from a blanket of synthesizers and music boxes. (Honorio)
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Stephan, I'm not sure if you picked the worst song you know, but I don't feel humiliated by that first place. I agree with Sonofsamiams comment and I like 80s music, so I guess I like the song as well. Barry White's '70s milestone "Never Never Gonna Give You Up" was just a little bit better.
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Actually someone just Rickroll'd me, and I realized it was from the 80s, so I figured I'd post it. I don't think it's the worst song of the 80s, not by a long shot. I secretly enjoy listening to that song once in a while.
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just throw off some more falafel mush on it, glue some blank coloured kitchenware pics inbetween, and at least we'll have some nice early Neville Brody artwork so far!
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#70
Tom Waits - Time (1985)
Score: 992 points
Biggest fans: Nicolas (#4), Sonofsamiam (#5), Greg (#13), BillAdama (#24), Fred (#25)
Comments: An emotional., traditional core in the midst of all the other wonderful ‘n' wacky goings-on on Rain Dogs – this proves that Waits still could write a ballad when he wanted to, and could still deliver something utterly timeless. Heart-rending and perfect. (Sonofsamiam)
Place in the 1985 poll: 10
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: Bubbling under
#69
The Smiths - The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (1985)
Score: 997 points
Biggest fans: Andre (#6), Fred (#13), pop elton (#15), Mo (#16), Midaso (#17), tremolo (#17)
Comments: None
Place in the 1985 poll: 7
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 471
#68
New Order - Ceremony (1981)
Score: 1002 points
Biggest fans: Moonbeam (# , pop elton (#10), Midaso (#12), Mitchell Stirling (#12), Adrian (#23)
Comments: None
Place in the 1981 poll: 5
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 268
Some random images to accompany this one.
#67
Squeeze - Tempted (1981)
Score: 1004 points
Biggest fans: Toni (#4), John (#4), Greg Rumpff (#6), SuperFurry (#19)
Comments: None
Place in the 1981 poll: 8
Acclaimed Music 1980s rank: 228
#66
Madonna - Into The Groove (1985)
Score: 1005 points
Biggest fans: Snusmumrik (#6), Honorio (#15), Toni (#1 , Moonbeam (#1 , Miguel (#19)
Comments: Maybe this is the perfect song to describe the sound of the 80s, this bright electronic sound that apparently many people detest (and some of us love). (Honorio)
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Maybe those cover arts don't show because you must be logged in to RYM to download the cover art.
On the other hand I checked the source and the links differs from those RYM links.