Awesome recommendations, netjade! I remember the first time I saw The Wicker Man- wow.

No surprises here.

I'm starting to wonder if Wilco and Flaming Lips made it as high as top 20. At this point, especially on this board it wouldn't shock me. Arcade Fire's another Oughties act that probably has a top 20 shot.

Other boards I might say White Stripes, but since this board seems to lean against heavy guitar riff driven stuff they'll probably show up in the next update.

(Also has TV On The Radio shown up yet? I don't seem to recall it).

TV on the Radio came in at 170

I can't believe Matthew Sweet didn't make the top 500. There can't be a chance that he's this high.

I'm starting to 'worry' that Becker and Fagen aint gonna make it either.If not there'll be a riot !!

Similar to what I did for the 1990s poll, I have looked at the correlation between each pair of voters, to see which of us have the most similar taste (so you know who to ask for recommendations). The highest correlations based on the votes for the top 51-100 artists are the following:

1. Vgrd & Sonofsamiam (r=0.47)
2. Jonah & Slush (r=0.46)
3. Daniel & Stephan (r=0.43)
4. Moonbeam & BillAdama (r=0.39)
Slush & Penguin (r=0.39)
6. Daniel & Depeche Mode (r=0.38)
7. Nicolas & Andre (r=0.37)
8. Harold Wexler & Stammer (r=0.36)
Stephan & Miguel (r=0.36)
10. Jonah & Anthony (r=0.34)
John & Stammer (r=0.34)
Rocky Raccoon & Nicolas (r=0.34)

Note: r can vary between -1 and +1, where +1 is a perfect positive linear relationship between two voters. For the calculations I built a spreadsheet of each voters' place for each artist, as presented by Moonbeam above. The "blanks" (when a voter did not put the artist on his list) were replaced with the value 200.

Now let's see if these pairs of voters continue to agree when we get to the top 50 artists...!?

56 of my artists have appeared already between 51-500. Of the 44 that are left, I have absolutely no doubt that 40 of them are in the top 50 - including Steely Dan, to reply to an earlier post. As for the other 4, it would seem unlikely that the Yardbirds and the Soft Boys would make it if they haven't already (but no Robyn Hitchcock at all in the entire top 500? really?), while the other two I'm not sure about. If they make the top 50 I'll reveal who they are (both made their best music in the early '70s).

Moonbeam, allow me to echo the extravagant praise you're getting and deserving for lavishing such care on this project!

Harold

Confirming Henrik's stats above, I also had the Yardbirds in my top 100 (though very very low) and Robyn Hitchcock just bubbling under.

7. Nicolas & Andre (r=0.37)

In good company

Nobody shares music taste with me.

According to Henrik stats I haven't got any siamese twin...
Does that mean I have a very special taste in music ?

I'm not a huge Steely Dan fan but I enjoy the album "Pretzel logic" and "Rikki don't loose that number" is a great song. Doesn't anybody ever notice that Sondre Lerche has been very inspired by "Rikki..." intro in his "Faces down" intro ?
And I love the guitar solo on "Rikki...".

Well ... the intro of "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" itself is "inspired" by the intro of Horace Silver's "Song for My Father". Unless you're talking about the burbling marimba-like sounds at the -very- beginning of the song.

Also, I love the guitar solo on "Rikki", too. Along with everything else about it.

Slush & Penguin (r=0.39)

Actually makes sense, considering we both voted out "I Am The Walrus."

thanks andre
I was just thinking the same thing

Awesome correlations, Henrik!

50. Sonic Youth

AM Rank: 48
Survivor Rank: 31
Polls Rank: 43

Total Points: 333.28
Appears on: 11 ballots:

Vgrd (3)
Jonah (12)
BillAdama (17)
Rocky Raccoon (22)
Stammer (29)
Kevin (31)
Tim (37)
Harold Wexler (43)
Henrik (51)
Rune (6
Pop Elton (71)

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

Daydream Nation (47)
Sister (130)
Dirty (46
Goo (861)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

Teenage Riot (43)
Unmade Bed (767)
Theresa’s Soundworld (96

49. The Flaming Lips

AM Rank: 138
Survivor Rank: 58
Polls Rank: 25

Total Points: 338.88
Appears on: 15 ballots:

Dumbangel (13)
Jonah (14)
Pop Elton (14)
Penguin (16)
Slush (20)
Harold Wexler (36)
Honorio (3
BillAdama (46)
Rocky Raccoon (55)
Tim (56)
Rune (65)
Mitchell Sterling (82)
Stammer (83)
Kevin (85)
Sonofsamiam (9

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

The Soft Bulletin (32)
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (90)
Transmissions from the Satellite Heart (353)
Zaireeka (371)
Clouds Taste Metallic (82
At War with the Mystics (863)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

Do You Realize? (159)
Race for the Prize (185)
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Part 1 (334)
Moth’s Head in the Incubator (720)

I guess not.

Well, I wouldn't have been surprised. Soft Bulletin sure made it high.

Good start to the top 50.

48. Scott Walker

AM Rank: 237
Survivor Rank: NA
Polls Rank: 65

Total Points: 343.98
Appears on: 10 ballots:

Fred (6)
Damosuzuki (7)
Vgrd (10)
Georgie (20)
Mitchell Sterling (22)
Henrik (26)
Sonofsamiam (34)
Pop Elton (53)
Stammer (5
Rune (76)

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

Scott 4 (12
Scott 3 (246)
Scott 2 (670)
The Drift (791)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

The Seventh Seal (669)
Rhymes of Goodbye (72
The Old Man’s Back Again (869)
Jackie (915)

47. Elvis Presley

AM Rank: 9
Survivor Rank: 24
Polls Rank: 97

Total Points: 344.82
Appears on: 14 ballots:

Greg (14)
Daniel (17)
Nicolas (1
BillAdama (19)
Honorio (20)
Stephan (2
Vgrd (30)
Paul (42)
Rocky Raccoon (54)
Damosuzuki (55)
Harold Wexler (55)
Miguel (55)
Henrik (64)
Kevin (69)

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

Elvis Presley (305)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

Suspicious Minds (4
Heartbreak Hotel (315)
Blue Moon (410)
That’s Alright Mama (914)

46. Marvin Gaye

AM Rank: 14
Survivor Rank: 19
Polls Rank: 34

Total Points: 345.20
Appears on: 18 ballots:

Vgrd (12)
Slush (27)
Greg (2
Honorio (29)
Nicolas (31)
BillAdama (32)
Rocky Raccoon (33)
Sonofsamiam (35)
Henrik (40)
Stephan (46)
Paul (52)
Miguel (54)
Georgie (64)
Dumbangel (65)
Jonah (67)
Daniel (84)
Harold Wexler (84)
Fred (99)

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

What’s Going On (22)
Here, My Dear (586)
Let’s Get It On (822)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

What’s Going On (14)
I Heard It Through the Grapevine (74)
Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler) (317)
Sexual Healing (374)
Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology) (513)
Let’s Get It On (83

45. Massive Attack

AM Rank: 63
Survivor Rank: 55
Polls Rank: 46

Total Points: 352.11
Appears on: 12 ballots:

Henrik (4)
Depeche Mode (10)
Pop Elton (7)
Slush (15)
Jonah (33)
Andre (35)
Lonesome Panda (40)
Mitchell Sterling (59)
BillAdama (63)
Vgrd (79)
Tim (82)
Honorio (90)

Quotable:

Lonesome Panda: Favourite Album: Mezzanine, Favourite Song: Teardrop

Albums in the Top 1000 Poll:

Blue Lines (85)
Mezzanine (97)
Protection (311)

Songs in the Top 1000 Poll:

Teardrop (90)
Unfinished Sympathy (99)
Protection (444)
Karmacoma (877)

So, how many of the Scott Walker voters are from the US and how many are from non-English speaking countries?

Yeah, I'm glad to see we share more than just a hatred for "I Am the Walrus."

...but seriously I hate that song.

Wow!Massive Attack is really high on this list!

Amazing to see all this love for the nineties
It surely has to do with demography (averal age is about 30 on this site)

I'm not from the US, nor am I from a non-English speaking country!

Fascinating stuff so far, another internet board I read is doing the same thing at the same time so it's all good fun seeing the comparisons!

The Nineties are my favorite my far. Massive Attack, though, is a huge surprise. I also don't remember "Teardrop" being higher than "Unfinished Sympathy," although I agree wholeheartedly.

The nineties are a gaping hole in my music experience. I was really into "alternative" in the eighties, but got kind of turned off when it went so mainstream and so grunge. (I was more into the jangly alternative sound). Then I tried hitching my wagon to alt-country, but that all started to sound boring after awhile.

Now as I go back and try to "reconstruct" the nineties using resources like this site, I'm still having a really hard time connecting with anything from that decade. (Other than Odelay, which I have always liked).

The Britpop just isn't doing it for me, I'm past my hard rock years (at least as pertains to getting new stuff), and the hip hop from the 1990s all sounds so old fashioned now. What's an old guy like me going to find in the 1990's that is worthwhile?

I don't like the 90s very much. Most of my favorite albums and songs are from the 70s, with the 60s and 80s closely together in 2nd and 3rd spot (the music from the 60s is mostly from the last 6 years, while the rest of the decades has 10 years, and so it is still my favorite decade). After that the 90s and 00s are close together, but the 00s are quickly catching up. With 2 years left to go, I think the 00s will surpass the 90s for me.

A few more 90's thinks I like: Neutral Milk Hotel and can get into OK Computer when in the right mood.

When I listen to Jeff Buckley's Grace I feel like I'm crashing some younger kid's college experience, like a hanger-on.

OK, enough of my yakking.

Paul, your trajectory sounds a lot like mine--alternative in the 80s, disenchanted with the heavier post-Nirvana music in the 90s and flirting briefly with the No Depression stuff.

The main exception is that I DID fall pretty hard for Britpop, which seemed a welcome respite from Soundgarden and STP and Bush and the like. I'm a sucker for tuneful irony.

The more I hang out on this site, the more I realize that I've never really gotten into 2000s music in any deep way. I have one or two dozen favorites, but I'm just not immersed the way I was 20 years ago. I guess it's partly the fragmentary nature of pop these days, combined with my rapidly encroaching middle age. If the Strokes had started in 1981, I'd probably have loved them; as it is, I think they're OK but I don't see what all the fuss is.

All of this may be a long-winded way of bemoaning the near-absence of most of my picks from the top 100...

Paul, I understand your plight, but I figure that if someone in his mid-twenties (like me) can latch onto artists like Hank Williams and Glen Campbell -- artists from years ago, who I never heard growing up, from a genre that I always associated with bad music -- then I don't see why you can't go back and reconnect with music from the nineties.

I'm not sure if this is one would be up your alley or not, but it's a great '90s album with atypical influnces: New Radicals - Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too. It's not grunge; it's like funk and soul-tinged pop with lyrics criticizing commericialism and religion. Probably the "smartest" album from the nineties that I've heard, but unfortunately it was the first and last from the band -- they split up not long after.

I don't know... give it a shot maybe.

The other day I was driving to.. I can't remember where, and "Someday We'll Know" played (from my own collection, I don't think I'll see the day a Dutch station plays that song) and I thought to myself: with a proper re-release this song (and "You Get What You Give" too, for that matter) could even become pretty successful nowadays. What a fantastic song. So yeah, one of my favorite albums of the 90s as well.

Yeah, I remember you being a fan of that record, Stephan. And you might be onto something re: a re-release, but unfortunately, I think MYBBT is destined to wallow in the land of one-hit-wonder album obscurity for the rest of its days. The same land where you'd find the likes of A-ha's "Hunting High and Low" and The La's.

("Someday We'll Know" is great, yes, but what about "Flowers" and "Gotta Stay High"? F$cking poptastic!)

And what about "I Hope I Didn't Just Give Away The Ending"? Hell, pretty much all the songs on the album are brilliant. I'm listening to the album again right now and I think I'll move it up a few spots on my list again.

I had it at #17 for the album poll. Seems about right. (Again, it's that whole appeal of a band putting out one great record and then fucking off. I can't explain why I enjoy that sort of thing.)

Wow, I'm a potty mouth today. Speaking of which, whatever happened to Twister?

It's hovering somewhere around the 50th position for me, but it could climb a little more.

Guys, thanks for the suggestions. I'll check 'em out.

Mitchell, I was asking because I made a thread a couple months ago about that. I noticed that it's AM acclaim comes mostly from critics in non-English speaking countries and only his recent album had US acclaim. So, what is the demo here?

It would be interesting if we could get separate lists going based on certain criteria, but that would probably require too much further work.

Mitchell, I was asking because I made a thread a couple months ago about that. I noticed that it's AM acclaim comes mostly from critics in non-English speaking countries and only his recent album had US acclaim. So, what is the demo here?

I'm American and I like Scott Walker very much.

Very fun list!

I am curious as to how high a band has to be on an individual list to crack the top 500.

I'm curious because I was happy to see Frankenixon in the top 500, but perplexed because that was a local central Iowa band that released 2 and a half albums while I was in college in Des Moines (Iowa) and then dispersed. They should have become huge (or at least Pitchfork huge) but they just didn't. My high placing of Frankenixon on my own artist list is just as much because of that connection of witnessing several live intimate performances in local venues as the quality of their music. You should definitely seek out mp3s or myspace sites, if you can find anything by them.

Awesome discussions here! My internet connection went down at home because some line was cut somewhere that services thousands of Sydney customers, so I may not be able to update much over the next few days. I'll see what I can do!

I also am not a big 90s fan, even though I should like it given my age. I was totally captivated by just about everything that was around in the 80s (yes, even Richard Marx and Roxette!), and when the 90s came along, everything seemed so jaded, negative and angry, and I just couldn't get behind those emotions very much. I've grown to appreciate some stuff more since the 90s have ended, but it still pales in comparison to the 80s, 70s and 00s for me.

90's = "jaded, negative and angry"

That's exactly my problem with it too.

"90's = 'jaded, negative and angry'
That's exactly my problem with it too."

Yeah, well, whatEVER. F-- you, man.

I can't see that the list (place 100-45) is dominated by 90s music

Yes, but there are still many bands from this decade:Smashing Pumpkins,Oasis,Blur and other.

Well the album and song polls tended to prove that I am the most 90s/00s oriented person on this forum.
I don't find the 90s that angry or negative... I admit it is often jaded but not without a sense of hope and beauty.
The 00s might me funnier, but the 90s are deeper, more sincere.
I, personaly, think that the worst decade is by far 80s (especially from 81 to 87), not only because of the sound of the synth-pop, but because it is mostly a transition period, especially for rock and pop, where the great years are passed and it takes time to build something new.
Hip-hop and electro were too young so you have to go on very specific genres to find something interesting : heavy metal (Slayer, Metallica...), hardcore (Husker Du, Fugazi...) or even irish traditional music...
Most of the great act are just alone in their category with no scenes to support them, the best example being Prince, all alone in its category.

How important are music scenes to you guys? Personally, I admire more the artists who make great records in their on way, no matter what the current hype is.

What I mean is that Tom Waits or Prince's best albums are not the reflect of a dense period with lots of good bands/artists, they are just single exceptions on a rather poor global scene.
Unlike Radiohead, Nirvana or Massive Attack which were just the leaders of a more global trend.

Lonesome Panda, you just named my two '80s heroes (Waits and Prince). Good call !

Lonesome, it wasn't meant as an attack against your post. It just got me wondering about people's feeling about music scenes, and I just think that artists that go against current trends often have a more long-lasting appeal. Like Prince and Tom Waits.

I've got to agree with Lonesome Panda - the 90s are my favorite followed by the 70s and the 00s. That probably going to be apparent once my list is up.

As for the 90s being angry and negative, it really depends on what you listened to. I love Britpop (and didn't really like grunge) so to me, the 90s were pretty positive with a lighter sound than most people think of when this time is mentioned. It really depends on what type of music you think represents the 90s.

As for the Smashing Pumpkins, I hope they made the list. I would be surprised if they didn't, but I don't see too many fans of them here. I know I voted for them (very highly too), but not too sure about the others.

Smashing Pumpkins made the list. I'm 100% sure of that.
In my opinion Smashing Pumpkins have managed always high positions in our polls (last year in 90's poll Siamese Dream was at #17 and Mellon Collie #50. In song poll of 90's they got 4 songs in top 100 and in all time list they had 3 songs in top 200 and Siamese Dream was in top 100 in all time albums list. Quite well I guess.

To Jonah
In my list CMX was my #30. Regina and PMMP were #27 and #26. I'm pretty sure that no one else voted them but they all made to list (CMX was 493. and the two others in positions 460-470). So I guess everyones top 30 made to top 500.

It's nice to see that someone else voted 22 Pistepirkko. Rune (from Norway) was it you?

It seems that Slint didn't make to top 500. It was my number 37. That means that no one else voted it. Shame on you guys.

And finally to John. I'm from Finland. As you can see my English is bad. The lyrics are not the biggest reason I like Scott Walker.

Moonbeam, you should call up your ISP and tell them to hurry up because they are stalling an internet music poll. I'm sure they'll understand and expedite the process.

Pop Elton,

Yes, that was me. Can't remember where I placed them, but they're great.

The Pumpkins? #8 on my list, Penguin.

I've made no bones about the fact that I consider Billy Corgan to be one of the greatest alt-rock songwriters. Of the 200 songs I submitted for the song poll, nine were his.

Even higher on my own list, Anthony (#6). Seems like they're primed for a high position, actually.

Ugh.

, do you want to tell us something, John?

#10 on my list!

hahahahaha

wooo pumpkins!!!

I could have seen the Pumpkins possibly missing the top 100, but certainly not the top 500. So they must be still to come.

Too many people trying to relive their high school goth years. Let's get Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson and Tool in the top 20!

That's an unfair assessment.

The Sex Pistols were punk, but beneath it was pop. Nirvana was grunge, but Cobain wrote pop songs.

Same with Corgan. Sure, the Pumpkins didn't change music to the extent that the Pistols or Nirvana did, but the best Pumpkins songs -- Today, 1979, Perfect, etc -- were pop songs with catchy hooks, unfortunately branded with the alt/goth tag. Rubbish, I say.

oh, and the cure were my #6

John, you're awesome

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