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HOA: 1962 discussion thread

This is the discussion thread for the 1962 election. As always, here are the top candidates.

(BTW, if you haven’t yet checked out the 1961 inductees on the HOA results thread, you should probably do that first, if you don’t want to ruin the surprise.)


Only releases through December 31, 1961 included.

1961 releases indicated with an asterisk.

1. RAY CHARLES (18.48)
ALBUMS: Ray Charles at Newport (1126); The Genius of Ray Charles (696); Ray Charles in Person (1754); Genius + Soul = Jazz (1479)*.
SONGS: I’ve Got a Woman (617); Hallelujah, I Love Her So (2347); Lonely Avenue (1004); What’d I Say (27); Georgia on My Mind (322); Hit the Road, Jack (838)*.

ALBUMS: Genius of Modern Music, Vol. 1 (458); Genius of Modern Music, Vol. 2 (714); Brilliant Corners (429); Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane (733); Monk’s Music (1014); Art Blakey’s Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1528).
SONG: Round Midnight (342).

ALBUMS: Jazz at Massey Hall (514); Pithecanthropus Erectus (748); Blues and Roots (782); Mingus Ah Um (384); Mingus at Antibes (1364); Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus (935).
SONGS: none.

ALBUMS: The Everly Brothers (1618); Songs Our Daddy Taught Us (1722); It’s Everly Time (2551).
SONGS: Bye Bye Love (144); Wake Up Little Susie (420); All I Have to Do Is Dream (171); Bird Dog (2183); Cathy’s Clown (260); Walk Right Back (1873)*.

5. JOHN COLTRANE (18.92)
ALBUMS: Blue Train (613); Soultrane/John Coltrane 2-LP (1844); Giant Steps (305); Coltrane Jazz (1456); My Favorite Things (444)*; Africa/Brass (2166)*.
SONG: My Favorite Things (1643)*.

6. SONNY ROLLINS (19.01)
ALBUMS: Tenor Madness (1104); Saxophone Colossus (370); Way Out West (891); Night at the Village Vanguard, Vol. 1 (1021); Night at the Village Vanguard, Vol. 2 (1150); Freedom Suite (1407).
SONG: St. Thomas (2551).

ALBUMS: Ellington Uptown (2442); Ellington at Newport (385); Such Sweet Thunder (1917); Indigos (1864); Side by Side (1823); Anatomy of a Murder (2692).
SONGS: Black and Tan Fantasy (1758); Mood Indigo (691); Take the “A” Train (431); Black, Brown and Beige (1988); In a Sentimental Mood (1531); Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue (1813).

ALBUMS: Sings the Cole Porter Songbook, Vol. 1 (617); Sings the Rodgers and Hart Songbook, Vol. 1 (888); Ella and Louis (1370); Porgy and Bess (1373); Sings the Duke Ellington Songbook, Vol. 1 (1319); Sings the George and Ira Gershwin Songbook (875).
SONG: A-Tisket, A-Tasket (1097).

9. MUDDY WATERS (19.06)
ALBUMS: Muddy Waters at Newport (1960).
SONGS: I Can’t Be Satisfied (2132); Rollin’ Stone (773); Hoochie Coochie Man (282); Mannish Boy (240); Got My Mojo Working (588).

ALBUMS: Something Else!!! (1861); The Shape of Jazz to Come (315); Change of the Century (762); Free Jazz: A Collective Improvisation (501)*; This Is Our Music (1688)*.
SONGS: none.

11. BO DIDDLEY (19.15)
ALBUMS: Bo Diddley (816); Go Bo Diddley (1349).
SONGS: Bo Diddley (177); I’m a Man (723); Who Do You Love (317).

12. JERRY LEE LEWIS (19.23)
ALBUM: Jerry Lee Lewis (1341)
SONGS: Whole Lotta Shakin’ Goin’ On (64); Great Balls of Fire (124).

13. COUNT BASIE (19.25)
ALBUMS: Count Basie Swings, Joe Williams Sings (1310); April in Paris (1000); At Newport (1447); The Atomic Mr. Basie (657).
SONGS: One O’Clock Jump (865); Lester Leaps In (2182); April in Paris (1447).

14. BILL EVANS (19.29)
ALBUMS: Everybody Digs Bill Evans (1659); Portrait in Jazz (1689); Explorations (2257)*; Sunday at the Village Vanguard (479)*; Waltz for Debby (496)*.
SONG: Waltz for Debby (2639)*.

ALBUMS: Bird & Diz (1644); Jazz at Massey Hall (514); Dizzy Gillespie with Roy Eldridge (1572); Groovin’ High (1547); Birk’s Works (2360); At Newport (2130).
SONGS: Groovin’ High (2672); A Night in Tunisia (2463); Manteca (1168).

16. FATS DOMINO (19.36)
ALBUMS: Rock and Rollin’ with Fats Domino (1416); This Is Fats Domino! (2457); The Fabulous Mr. D (2295).
SONGS: Ain’t That a Shame (600); Blueberry Hill (213); Blue Monday (1803); I’m Walkin’ (2168); Walking to New Orleans (1921).

17. JOHNNY CASH (19.37)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Folsom Prison Blues (135); I Walk the Line (93); I Still Miss Someone (2109).

18. ROY ORBISON (19.44)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Only the Lonely (139); Running Scared (1961)*; Crying (295)*.

ALBUMS: Plays W.C. Handy (1036); Ella and Louis (1370); Ella and Louis Again (2967); Porgy and Bess (1373).
SONG: West End Blues (343).

20. CHARLIE PARKER (19.48)
ALBUMS: Charlie Parker with Strings (1735); Bird & Diz (1644); Jazz at Massey Hall (514).
SONGS: Koko (768); Ornithology (2456).

21. ART BLAKEY (19.48)
ALBUMS: A Night at Birdland Vol. 1 (1236); A Night at Birdland Vol. 2 (2296); Moanin’ (781); Art Blakey’s Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1528); A Night in Tunisia (1787); Mosaic (2510)*.
SONGS: none.

22. HOWLIN’ WOLF (19.49)
ALBUM: Moanin’ in the Moonlight (551).
SONG: Smokestack Lightnin’ (367); Wang Dang Doodle (2561); Back Door Man (2460); Spoonful (1247).

23. PATSY CLINE (19.50)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Walkin’ After Midnight (1407); Crazy (146); I Fall to Pieces (415)*.

24. BEN E. KING (19.51)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Spanish Harlem (583)*; Stand by Me (67)*.

25. BUD POWELL (19.52)
ALBUMS: The Amazing Bud Powell Vol. 1 (792); Jazz at Massey Hall (514); The Amazing Bud Powell Vol. 2 (2905).
SONG: Un Poco Loco (1616).

26. WOODY GUTHRIE (19.52)
ALBUM: Dust Bowl Ballads (607).
SONG: This Land Is Your Land (163).

27. DION (19.53)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: I Wonder Why (819); A Teenager in Love (748); Runaround Sue (321)*; The Wanderer (1405)*.

ALBUM: Rock Around the Clock (2042).
SONG: (We’re Gonna) Rock Around the Clock (45).

29. ROBERT JOHNSON (19.55)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Come on in My Kitchen (2338); Cross Road Blues (226); Sweet Home Chicago (2238); Terraplane Blues (2280); Hellhound on My Trail (843); Love in Vain (1446).

30. DAVE BRUBECK (19.56)
ALBUMS: Jazz Goes to College (2843); Time Out (324).
SONG: Take Five (730).

31. THE DRIFTERS (19.58)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Money Honey (921); There Goes My Baby (269); Save the Last Dance for Me (670).

32. EDDIE COCHRAN (19.59)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Summertime Blues (79); C’mon Everybody (1210).

33. BIG JOE TURNER (19.60)
ALBUM: The Boss of the Blues (1094).
SONG: Shake, Rattle and Roll (151).

34. THE SHIRELLES (19.61)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Dedicated to the One I Love (1784); Tonight’s the Night (1815); Will You Love Me Tomorrow (98).

35. SAM COOKE (19.61)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: You Send Me (189); Wonderful World (902); Cupid (1558)*.

36. BENNY GOODMAN (19.61)
ALBUM: The Famous 1938 Carnegie Hall Concert (513).
SONGS: Sing, Sing, Sing (724); Solo Flight (2007).

37. DEL SHANNON (19.62)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Runaway (77)*; Hats off to Larry (1809)*.

38. RITCHIE VALENS (19.63)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Donna (788); La Bamba (152).

39. BOBBY BLAND (19.64)
ALBUM: Two Steps from the Blues (399).
SONG: Further Up the Road (2002); I Pity the Fool (2659)*; Turn on Your Love Light (1955)*.

40. GENE VINCENT (19.64)
ALBUM: Gene Vincent and His Blue Caps (1743).
SONG: Be Bop a Lula (125).

41. SARAH VAUGHAN (19.65)
ALBUMS: Images/Swingin’ Easy (1298); Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown (743); In the Land of Hifi (2239); After Hours (2710)*.
SONGS: none.

42. CARL PERKINS (19.65)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Blue Suede Shoes (75); Honey Don’t (2859).

43. THE COASTERS (19.65)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Searchin’ (1570); Young Blood (979); Yakety Yak (262).

44. THE PLATTERS (19.67)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: The Great Pretender (329); Only You (And You Alone) (750); Smoke Gets in Your Eyes (1984).

ALBUM: Johnny Burnette and the Rock ‘n’ Roll Trio (637).
SONG: The Train Kept A-Rollin’ (874).

46. JUDY GARLAND (19.69)
ALBUM: Judy at Carnegie Hall (1093)*.
SONG: Over the Rainbow (380).

47. CLIFFORD BROWN (19.70)
ALBUMS: Daahoud/Clifford Brown & Max Roach (1229); Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown (743); Study in Brown (1979); At Basin Street (2209).

48. JACKIE WILSON (19.71)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Reet Petite (The Finest Girl You Ever Want to Meet) (539); Lonely Teardrops (479).

ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Why Do Fools Fall in Love (161); I’m Not a Juvenile Delinquent (2191).

50. LLOYD PRICE (19.72)
ALBUMS: none.
SONGS: Lawdy Miss Clawdy (371); Stagger Lee (1061); Personality (2416); I’m Gonna Get Married (2924).


MOVING UP: Ray Charles, John Coltrane, Roy Orbison, Art Blakey, Patsy Cline, Sam Cooke, Bobby Bland.

NEW TO THE LIST: Bill Evans, Ben E. King, Dion, Del Shannon, Judy Garland.

(Top 15 debut for Evans!)


BUBBLING UNDER: The Shadows, The Carter Family, Oliver Nelson, Leadbelly, Etta James.


Voting begins July 29. Discussion begins now.

Re: HOA: 1962 discussion thread

Has anybody considered Harry Belafonte? I kind of forgot about him until yesterday but I think he at least needs to be considered.

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Belafonte's worth a mention, John. Were I to extend the top 50 list above, Harry would come in at #79 or so.

I guess it depends on how you feel about calypso. My sense is that it's a relatively tangential stream to the mighty river whose course we're charting here. But I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise...

I'm interested to see what people have to say about some of our newcomers this year, especially Bill Evans and Del Shannon...

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Bill Evans is in for sure now that Village Vanguard and Waltz For Debbie are eligible. I think I might put Belafonte on my list but I'm not sure.

Why isn't anybody else putting Nat King Cole on their list?

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I think Nat King Cole suffers from the same problem as Ella Fitzgerald. His diction is flawless, which just isn't "rock'n'roll" enough for these modern times.

Frank Sinatra is to Nat what Billie Holiday is to Ella.

I might have to put him on my list, though. Sweet Lorraine is a masterpiece. Nature Boy, Route 66, Straighten Up And Fly Right, and It's Only A Paper Moon aren't bad either...

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Not to mention one of the greatest songs ever, Mona Lisa.

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In the tilting at windmills department, can anyone besides me please give some love to Thelonious Monk? This guy was truly a jazz genius. His many compositions include 'Round Midnight, which may be the greatest jazz standard ever written.

If I could perform one instrument like one acclaimed artist, I would pick Thelonious Monk's piano playing. The guy is amazing.

AMG Bio.

Wikipedia Bio.

If nothing else, give him a vote for having the middle name "Sphere"!

You can here a few track's at this blog.

Re: HOA: 1962 discussion thread

here = hear

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There are a couple of wonderful singers (technically adroit, smooth as butter) that I have not been putting up for consideration. One is the aforementioned Nat King Cole. Another is Mel Torme. I am not buying the argument that one has to be "rock and roll" or proto-rock and roll to merit consideration. It's more that there is a lack of breadth of style. Nat King Cole gets closer... he had some harder swinging work with his trio, along with his classic vocal tracks. Mel is great, but one-note.

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I love Del Shannon. It's perfect pop music, fun and lively. It's like summer on your stereo. And I love his falsetto as well. Falsetto should have been mandatory in every pop song.

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Nat King Cole is more timeless than Mel Torme. You can name at least a dozen singers that are considered legends but very limited style-wise. Perry Como, Doris Day, Bing Crosby and Andy Williams come to mind. Having one trick isn't always bad, but to make the HOA they should be at least be the very best out there. I think Nat King Cole is the very best of the pre-60's singers after Sinatra who's in a class of his own. Harry Belafonte is the very best of calypso. Obviously it's going to be impossible to represent every genre but I think I'll put those two in.

I think the problem with crooners, singers and other genres that didn't shape rock and roll is that everybody has their own opinions on who was the best and in about two years not many of us are going to be voting for them anymore. So, I doubt we'll see many more get in.

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