I hope I don't mess things up now...

*** THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL LIST ***

Some of the ballots were a little out of the final top 100 game because they were so different from everybody else's ballots. Different, but certainly not bad. I'm talking especially about Netjade's inspiring list, and also the lists from Dumbangel, Moonbeam and Mark. Those were the voters that were "farthest from the crowd".

When I got the spreadsheet from Anthony I got the idea to do an alternative list for myself, where the weight of each ballot would depend on the number of albums in the final (original) top 100. With only 5 albums in the original top 100, Netjade got the highest weight. I think the alternative list turned out to be really exciting, and thus I felt the want to post it here as well (original positions in brackets).

1. (1) Radiohead - OK Computer
2. (3) Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
3. (5) The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
4. (2) The Beatles - Revolver
5. (4) The Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album)
6. (6) The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
7. (8) The Beatles - Abbey Road
8. (10) Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
9. (7) The Clash - London Calling
10. (9) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
11. (11) David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
12. (33) The Zombies - Odessey & Oracle
13. (12) Pixies - Doolittle
14. (17) Love - Forever Changes
15. (32) The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
16. (13) Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
17. (20) Arcade Fire - Funeral
18. (14) Radiohead - Kid A
19. (19) Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
20. (18) The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.
21. (23) The Beatles - Rubber Soul
22. (30) Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home
23. (24) Television - Marquee Moon
24. (22) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
25. (25) Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
26. (15) Nirvana - Nevermind
27. (27) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
28. (31) Beck - Odelay
29. (16) The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
30. (21) R.E.M. - Automatic For The People
31. (26) The Who - Who's Next
32. (29) Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run
33. (57) Oasis - Definitely Maybe
34. (28) The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
35. (49) Jeff Buckley - Grace
36. (39) Prince - Purple Rain
37. (38) Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
38. (45) Neil Young - After the Gold Rush
39. (44) Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
40. (65) The Kinks - The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
41. (37) U2 - Achtung Baby
42. (35) The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
43. (43) Radiohead - The Bends
44. (53) Joni Mitchell - Blue
45. (42) Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
46. (54) The Strokes - Is This It
47. (46) The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
48. (41) The Rolling Stones - Beggar's Banquet
49. (61) PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
50. (72) Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
51. (36) Talking Heads - Remain in Light
52. (34) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
53. (48) R.E.M. - Murmur
54. (40) My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
55. (52) David Bowie - Low
56. (68) Prince - Sign 'O' The Times
57. (63) Paul Simon - Graceland
58. (59) Portishead - Dummy
59. (50) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
60. (91) LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
61. (47) Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
62. (67) Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory?
63. (55) U2 - The Joshua Tree
64. (62) John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
65. (51) Pixies - Surfer Rosa
66. (-) The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat
67. (90) The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
68. (-) Prince - 1999
69. (64) The Doors - The Doors
70. (99) Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
71. (76) Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
72. (-) The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
73. (66) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
74. (84) Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key of Life
75. (95) Björk - Homogenic
76. (56) The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
77. (60) David Bowie - Hunky Dory
78. (74) Pulp - Different Class
79. (-) Van Dyke Parks - Song Cycle
80. (-) Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Leonard Cohen
81. (-) De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
82. (73) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
83. (-) The Kinks - Something Else By The Kinks
84. (71) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
85. (-) Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
86. (58) Joy Division - Closer
87. (79) Michael Jackson - Thriller
88. (-) The United States Of America - The United States Of America
89. (97) Massive Attack - Mezzanine
90. (83) The White Stripes - Elephant
91. (69) Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
92. (85) Massive Attack - Blue Lines
93. (-) DJ Shadow - Endtroducing…
94. (86) The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
95. (81) John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
96. (-) Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
97. (-) Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
98. (-) Scott Walker - Scott 3
99. (75) Van Morrison - Moondance
100. (-) Elliott Smith - Either/Or

Wow, that's an even better list! Nice work. Gives me 3 more albums to listen to.

Henrik -

You're the statistician, and numbers ain't my bag, so maybe you can explain the significance of giving greater weight to lists with less entries outside the top-100. I mean, if they had a lot of entries sitting in the 100-200 range, as opposed to the 1000-2000 range, is that accounted for?

And in the end, doesn't it just set off another cycle. Because I assume that Netjade, Moonbeam, et al. now have a bunch more albums in your weighted top-100, so should we now see who has the least number of albums in the new tally and do a another weighted list?

I guess in the aim is to create a list that rewards going against the grain, which I suppose is interesting, but not quite democratic.

By the way, I am not questioning this solely because The Soft Bulletin got a major bump.

Big boost to the Kinks!

You're the statistician, and numbers ain't my bag, so maybe you can explain the significance of giving greater weight to lists with less entries outside the top-100. I mean, if they had a lot of entries sitting in the 100-200 range, as opposed to the 1000-2000 range, is that accounted for?

Schwah, in general I don't think a lot of entries outside the top 100 should be accounted for (in fact, low correlation with the overall AM ranking gives a lower weight to a critic list. But, I thought it would be a fun exercise for this poll, to see what the list would look like if every voter got a good number of albums in the top 100. And btw, Netjade still has the lowest number of albums in the list, now 13 instead of 5.

I actually ended up with fewer albums in the list! But the inclusion of 1999 is worth the loss of Horses and Transformer.

I won Either/Or and Endtroducing ! + Sound Silver wins a few steps... so I guess I like this one even more than the former list !

This project got me to check out "The United States Of America" for the first time. Very nteresting record, but too soon for me to give a meaningful opinion.

Next up Van Dyke Parks...

I don't know. All this really does is put Netjade's albums in the poll with a couple extra. There are definitely a lot of albums on Netjade's list that I like. But, they don't belong in the top 100. Might as well call it AM Poll plus Netjade.

Nothing against what you did, I understand it's an alt poll. She did have a cool list.

Talk Talk, De La Soul, Curtis Mayfield and Scott Walker, yay!

Talk Talk, De La Soul, Curtis Mayfield and Scott Walker, yay!

QFT.

Also, The USA album is really great -- I thought it would get old after a few listens, but it only gets more interesting and inspiring. It's one of those one-offs that could only happen in the '60s. (Sorta like The Millennium, who everyone with any interest in baroque or sunshine pop should check out immediately.)

The only early Scott Walker album I've heard is 4. It's pretty good I guess.

It's most interesting what it did for Soft Bulletin and the Zombies.

Overall it seems to award more weird quirky pop and hurt really heavily guitar driven stuff.

The Millennium's "Begin" is my pick for the album that everyone here should listen to. I had made a top 500, so I made a list of albums that both sonofsamiam & I both had in our top 340 & put them in order of combined ranking.

The Beatles - The Beatles
The Millennium - Begin
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Love - Forever Changes
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes
David Axelrod - Songs of Experience
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
David Bowie - Low
The United States of America - The United States of America
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
Gil Scott-Heron - Pieces of a Man
The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.
Brian Eno - Another Green World
Brian Eno - Before and After Science
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Beatles - Revolver
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis
Caetano Veloso - Caetano Veloso [1968]
Shuggie Otis - Inspiration Information
Madvillain - Madvillainy
The Band - The Band
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground and Nico
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
The Kinks - The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society
Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark
Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
Gal Costa - Gal Costa
Tim Buckley - Starsailor
Minnie Riperton - Come To My Garden
The Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow
Sagittarius - Present Tense
Television - Marquee Moon
Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns
George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
Steely Dan - Aja
Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire de Melody Nelson
Joni Mitchell - Blue
The Stooges - Fun House
Nas - Illmatic
King Crimson - Red
Parliament - Funkentelechy vs. The Placebo Syndrome
Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
John Coltrane - Giant Steps
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters
Frank Sinatra - In the Wee Small Hours
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Scott Walker - Scott 3
Eugene McDaniels - Headless Heroes of The Apocalypse
Donald Byrd - Street Lady
Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Terry Callier - What Color is Love
Sly and The Family Stone - Stand!
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Chet Baker - Chet Baker Sings
Talking Heads - Remain in Light
Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
Harry Nilsson - Aerial Ballet

I like the list. Here's the first line from the all music review: "The Millennium's Begin can truly be described as a bona fide lost classic."

I'll have to check it out, because it's currently lost to me.

Loophole,

I just read the same review. All I can say is, SOLD! I need to find that album.

Me too.

if you like Scott walker, you'll love The Divine Comedy
i think they are unknown in the States. Please check their first 4 albums, it is great baroque pop but from the '90s.
Everytime I mention them only FRench people seem to know them. I saw them on Netjade's list too.

The CD of BEGIN is out of print and very expensive to order, but it's available as Disc 1 of a 3-CD Millennium anthology called MAGIC TIME. That's not particularly easy to find, either, but at least it's in print. Any indie record store with a decent '60s selection should have it.

A note: BEGIN leans much more toward the pop side of the spectrum than the psych one - it's closer to the Association than to the United States of America. It helps to know what to expect going in; the album didn't really register with me until my second listen.

Thanks Harold. I'm on a mission to find me some Millennium! Hoo-hah!

It seems that Harold hasn't read what I wrote in an other thread 2 hours ago...

Oops! Sorry about that, Dumbangel. (I guess I got the disc number wrong, too.) Oh, well - not everyone reads every thread, so whoever misses your post will see mine.

I found some stray track from BEGIN just searching music blogs on Google and Elbo.ws. Wow! The tracks I heard are really great. The opening song, Prelude, has a drum beat that sound like its from the 1990s. Really great stuff (assuming the tracks I found are what they purport to be). I'm definitely going to order the album now. It's available on Amazon.

Oh, Loophole, you little rascal! I'm going there right now - we'll just see whose copy arrives in the mail first!