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From their March issue. Some weird ommisions. (1st 3 Eminem albums, So Addictive, Like Water For Chocolate spring to mind)
100 - KWEST THA MADD LAD - THIS IS MY FIRST ALBUM
99 - SKINNYMAN - COUNCIL ESTATE OF MIND
98 - EDAN - BEAUTY AND THE BEAT
97 - DEVIN THE DUDE - S/T
96 - E-40 - IN A MAJOR WAY
95 - TRICK DADDY - THUG HOLIDAY
94 - NEEK THE EXOTIC - EXOTIC'S RAW
93 - SILENT ECLIPSE - P$YCHOLOGICAL £NSLAVEMENT
92 - BG - CHOPPER CITY IN THE GHETTO
91 - STICKY FINGAZ - BLACK TRASH: THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF KIRK JONES
90 - DR. OCTAGON - DR. OCTAGONECOLOGST
89 - LIL' FLIP - UNDERGROUND LEGEND
88 - MARK B & BLADE - THE UNKNOWN
87 - PRODIGY - HNIC
86 - BLACK ROB - THE BLACK ROB REPORT
85 - CEE-LO GREEN - ...IS THE SOUL MACHINE
84 - HOT BOYS - GET IT HOW U LIVE
83 - ROOTS MANUVA - AWFULLY DEEP
82 - LOOTPACK - SOUNDPIECES: DA ANTIDOTE
81 - PAUL WALL & CHAMILLIONAIRE - GET YA MIND CORRECT
80 - GANG STARR - THE OWNERZ
79 - 213 - THE HARD WAY
78 - THE HIGH & MIGHTY - HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE
77 - 50 CENT - THE MASSACRE
76 - TIMBALAND & MAGOO - WELCOME TO OUR WORLD
75 - WYCLEF JEAN - THE CARNIVAL
74 - KRS ONE - I GOT NEXT
73 - GETO BOYS - THE FOUNDATION
72 - MOP - FIRST FAMILY 4 LIFE
71 - UGLY DUCKLING - TASTE THE SECRET
70 - WU-TANG CLAN - THE W
69 - COMMON - BE
68 - CRU - DA DIRTY 30
67 - MISSY ELLIOT - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
66 - EMINEM - ENCORE
65 - TI - TRAP MUZIK
64 - SCARAMANGA - SEVEN EYES SEVEN HORNS
63 - GOODIE MOB - SOUL FOOD
62 - PHAROAHE MONCH - INTERNAL AFFAIRS
61 - NON PHIXION - THE FUTURE IS NOW
60 - LIL WAYNE - THE CARTER
59 - BUMPY KNUCKLES - INDUSTRY SHAKEDOWN
58 - QUASIMOTO - THE UNSEEN
57 - WU TANG CLAN - WU-TANG FOREVER
56 - JURASSIC 5 - POWER IN NUMBERS
55 - BIG PUN - CAPITAL PUNISHMENT
54 - MOP - FIRING SQUAD
53 - CAM'RON - PURPLE HAZE
52 - DEVIN THE DUDE - JUST TRYIN' TA LIVE
51 - LITTLE BROTHER - THE MINSTREL SHOW
50 - 50 CENT - GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN'
49 - KRS ONE - S/T
48 - SCREWBALL - Y2K THE ALBUM
47 - NAPPY ROOTS - WOODEN LEATHER
46 - THE ROOTS - THINGS FALL APART
45 - SHOCK G - FEAR OF A MIXED PLANET
44 - ROYAL FLUSH - GHETTO MILLIONAIRE
43 - CAPONE N' NOREAGA - THE WAR REPORT
42 - NERD - IN SEARCH OF
41 - SADAT X - WILD COWBOYS
40 - UGK - RIDIN DIRTY
39 - LAURYN HILL - THE MISEDUCATION OF
38 - MASTA ACE - A LONG HOT SUMMER
37 - GANG STARR - MOMENT OF TRUTH
36 - GHOSTFACE KILLAH - IRONMAN
35 - 2PAC - ALL EYEZ ON ME
34 - SCARFACE - THE FIX
33 - THA ALKAHOLIKS - COAST II COAST
32 - ODB - RETURN TO THE 36 CHAMBERS: THE DIRTY VERSION
31 - DE LA SOUL - AOI: BIONIX
30 - DEVIN THE DUDE - TO THA X-TREME
29 - CAMP LO - UPTOWN SATURDAY NIGHT
28 - OUTKAST - STANKONIA
27 - LIL JON & THE EAST SIDE BOYZ - CRUNK JUICE
26 - THE ROOTS - ILLADELPH HALFLIFE
25 - LITTLE BROTHER - THE LISTENING
24 - JAY-Z - THE BLACK ALBUM
23 - NO ID - ACCEPT YOUR OWN AND BE YOURSELF: THE BLACK ALBUM
22 - BIG L - LIFESTYLEZ OF DA POOR AND DANGEROUS
21 - GRAND PUBA - 2000
20 - DAVID BANNER - MISSISSIPPI: THE ALBUM
19 - KANYE WEST - THE COLLEGE DROPOUT
18 - OUTKAST - SPEAKERBOXXX/THE LOVE BELOW
17 - MOP - WARRIORZ
16 - BEATNUTS - STONE CRAZY
15 - THE FUGEES - THE SCORE
14 - BIGGIE - LIFE AFTER DEATH
13 - JAY-Z - REASONABLE DOUBT
12 - GROUP HOME - LIVIN' PROOF
11 - OUTKAST - AQUEMINI
10 - DR. DRE - 2001
09 - CLIPSE - LORD WILLIN'
08 - DE LA SOUL - STAKES IS HIGH
07 - GZA - LIQUID SWORDS
06 - OUTKAST - ATLIENS
05 - JAY-Z - THE BLUEPRINT
04 - MOBB DEEP - THE INFAMOUS
03 - MF DOOM - OPERATION DOOMSDAY
02 - GHOSTFACE KILLAH - SUPREME CLIENTELE
01 - RAEKWON - ONLY BUILT FOR CUBAN LINX
Interesting list. I'd put The College Dropout, The Score & Stankonia in the top 10
This list is ridiculous, no Nas, Quest, Eric B & Rakim, Public Enemy, Me Against the World, and 36 Chambers immediately come to mind
If you are new to hip hop please don't use this list
Stick to trashy techno UK, this might as well be a list of random albums
As much a hip hop and rap fan i am this list is sooooooooooooooooooooo bad.
I mean its just so bad
I dont understand why Jay Z scores so high, he's shit!
I’m a big rap fan and I don’t think the list is that bad. Loads of weird choices though, but that’s part of the fun I think. My all time favourite rap album Enter The Wu-Tang isn’t even on the list! But it’s a good thing that it doesn’t just list the same old pack of essentials.
The top ten is pretty cool, but Stakes Is High over the first or second De La Soul albums, and 2001 over The Chronic, sure are a curious choices.
Great to see Devin the Dude, Camp Lo, Masta Ace (maybe his worst album, but whatever…), Non Phixion, Edan and E-40. Personally though I would throw a bunch of stuff off the list (Wyclef Jean?! C’mon..), and I think many of the artists are represented by wrong albums.
A fun list all the same.
And btw Jay-Z isn’t shit, he is THE SHIT! Or at least he used to be... Check out Reasonable Doubt (1996) and see what I mean.
some of you are right about who's missing, but vgrd is more right.
As soon as I saw the heading I thought surely Nas - Illmatic will be #1 but to my shock it doesn't even look like it's on there.
To address some of the earlier points brought up, I think Illmatic was '94, 36 Chambers was '93, the great Public Enemy albums were in the late 80s and and early 90s.
That said, where the hell is Dizzee Rascal (this is a British list, so c'mon) and Madvillain?
Slush is of course right.
I got so exited seeing a rap list on acclaimed music that I didn't even see the fixed time period. That explains some of the odd choices. Still a lot of personal favorites missing though, Madvillainy and early Eminem has been mentioned, and I would definetly like to see El-p - Fantastic Damage on there.
Seriously, no Nas? Stillmatic should have been on it. The BluPrint is not even Jay's best album, its Reasonable Doubt. the silliest thing though is that lil flip got a spot and Nas, the best rapper that has ever been (yes, had he died like biggie or pac he would also have been a ledgend and hes got better lyrics then they do, hes just not a dead ledgend)didnt get one.
The List is quite good. Still i would come up with
Mos Def: Black on both sides
Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & DJ Hi-Tek): Train of Thought
Pharcyde: Labcabincalifornia (maybe...)
and i agree with Common, there should be "One day it'll all make sense" in the top 100.
I would cut 5-6 albums that i do not know ;)
I completely agree. I really don't understand why Reflection Eternal doesn't get more love here, there and everywhere.
David Banner top 20?
you are fucking sick in the head/ not worthy of ears
list is poor i mean no stillmatic for one also the blurprint and biggies albums should be higher
At least it's not the same tired list that every critic pulls out every now and then. It is missing key albums obviously but included a lot that deserve recognition but don't get it. A list like this is suited for a person acquainting themselves with hip-hop because it provides a huge range of styles rather than the 20 albums that everyone has heard before and even if you haven't, those lists usually have no range whatsoever other than throwing in a few old school sides.
What was their judging process? Did they poll a bunch of people or what?
By the way whoever said Jay-Z doesn't belong on the list is crazy.
your list is good and pretty accurate but i don't think only built for cuban links is number 1. I think it has to be either Mobb Deep's The Infamous, Wu-Tang's 36 Chambers, or an Eminem CD. I Did Not See That much eminem on there.
P.S. The Wu-Tang Clan ain't Nothing To Fuck With that's why they should be up there at numero uno.
The only thing I agree with here is the omission of Eminem.
He's the kind of guy who gets extra credit just for being both countercultural and popular at the same time. His image is completely manufactured and his rapping is above average at best.
Dr Dre said 'Hey, how can we get a bigger white audience?' One of his market strategists said 'How about we find a way to combine the street rapper image with the sentiment of 'Fight for your right to party?' It was a brilliant tactical move on Dr Dre's part, but the actual music is vastly overrated by people like Robert Christgau who think if it's not rap and it's not pre-1991, it's not relevant.
No Cannibal Ox?
Are they straight trippin'?
Why all the criticism? I like this list. Like John said, at least it's something different. I wonder how many albums on here people have actually heard. I'm a pretty big hip-hop fan and I've only heard about half the albums in the lower half of the list (#51-100). Anyway, how about some rival lists? Here's mine (obviously I disagree with BillAdama):
1. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
2. Dr. Octagon – Dr. Octagonecologyst (1996)
3. OutKast – Stankonia (2000)
4. Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995)
5. Eminem – The Slim Shady LP (1999)
6. Mobb Deep – The Infamous (1995)
7. Genius/GZA – Liquid Swords (1995)
8. Dr. Dre - 2001
9. Jay Dee – Welcome 2 Detroit
10. Group Home – Livin’ Proof (1995)
11. Kool Keith – Sex Style (1997)
12. Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt (1996)
13. AZ – Doe or Die (1995)
14. Gang Starr – Moment of Truth (1998)
15. Big Punisher – Capital Punishment (1998)
16. Dr. Dooom – First Come, First Served (1999)
17. GZA/Genius – Legend of the Liquid Sword (2002)
18. The Notorious B.I.G. – Life After Death (1997)
19. Wu-Tang Clan – The W (2000)
20. Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele (2000)
21. OutKast – Speakerboxxx / The Love Below (2003)
22. Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever (1997)
23. 2Pac – All Eyez on Me (1996)
24. Nas – It Was Written (1996)
25. Smif-n-Wessun – Dah Shinin’ (1995)
26. Ghostface Killah – Ironman (1996)
27. Mobb Deep – Hell on Earth (1996)
28. Non Phixion – The Future is Now (2002)
29. Eminem – The Eminem Show (2002)
30. Kanye West – The College Dropout (2004)
31. The Game – The Documentary (2005)
32. Nas – Street’s Disciple (2004)
33. Kanye West – Late Registration (2005)
34. Gang Starr – The Ownerz (2003)
35. People Under the Stairs – O.S.T. (2002)
36. OutKast – ATLiens (1996)
37. Cappadonna – The Pillage (1998)
38. Jay-Z – The Blueprint (2001)
39. Company Flow – Funcrusher Plus (1997)
40. Cannibal Ox – The Cold Vein (2001)
41. Missy Elliott – Miss E…So Addictive (2001)
42. Aesop Rock – Labor Days (2001)
43. Gravediggaz – The Pick, the Sickle and the Shovel (1997)
44. Beanie Sigel – The B.Coming (2005)
45. Pharoahe Monch – Internal Affairs (1999)
46. 50 Cent – Get Rich or Die Tryin’ (2003)
47. Paul Wall – The People’s Champ (2005)
48. RZA – Bobby Digital (1998)
49. The Coup – Steal This Album (1998)
50. Lil’ Wayne – Tha Carter Vol. 2 (2005)
is every one dumbbbbbbbbbb the years are from 1995-2005 therefore NO eric b and rakim albums can be on the list nor an album like 36 chambers.... geeez
Nobody can't forget Bone Thugs n Harmony cd's like E. 1999 Eternal, The Art of War, or BTNH Ressurection
mf doom operation doomsday needs to be #1. He is the greatest mc of all time.
I think I'm just biased against rap that glorifies violence.
That's why I gravitate more toward stuff like Outkast and the 80's rap that comes off as a protest against black culture being marginalized, and away from stuff like Dr Dre, Eminem, Wu-Tang, etc.
This is a mediocre list. Not bad, but not very good either. I dig Edan making it. I'm glad ATliens is in the top 10.
But where is The Roots' Do You Want More?!!!??! (exclamations part of the title but they go with the question). Where is Eminem?? MF Doom??
1. theres no NAS It Was Written, Stillmatic should easily b on there
2. how the hell iz LIL JON on this shit
3. how the hell iz lil wayne's the carter which was i believe ghost written by Gillie Da Kid
4. how the hell iz all eyez on me 35 2x DIAMOND ALBUMS dont belong at 35
5. n Jay-Z's reasonable doubt is way better than the blueprint no question
(whoever said he shouldn't be on here shouldnt b considered a rap fan rite now he's the best rapper alive n has been since March 9, 1997)
Not enough hip-hop talk on this board, so I'm happy this list has caused discussion. Greg's list is certainly solid, if I were going to do a quick T20 for this time period it would look like this
1. OutKast - Aquemini
2. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
3. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
4. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
5. Madvillain - Madvillainy
6. GZA - Liquid Swords
7. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
8. Mobb Deep - The Infamous
9. Kanye West - The College Dropout
10. Common - Like Water for Chocolate
11. Black Star - Talib Kweli and Mos Def are Black Star
12. Outkast - Stankonia
13. Kanye West - Late Registration
14. Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt
15. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor and Dangerous
16. OutKast - ATLiens
17. The Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
18. Nas - It Was Written
19. Dr. Dre - 2001
20. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain