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The tendency for these lists to include one acclaimed album by a particular artist and exclude all others is killing it. The LCD Soundsystem album appears on 5 lists, only one of which contains Sound of Silver.
Of course, as Howard pointed out previously, this rule of thumb does not appear to apply to Radiohead albums, so Kid A is not affected.
I,ve just taken a glance down the list and I,m stunned to see Neon Bible languishing down in 441st.
On a personal note, The Moon and Antartica seems to be the Modest Mouse album of choice, while my all time number 5 album, Good News For People Who Love Bad News is receiving very little love
I'm coming from the opposite end; my pick for the album of the Decade, Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot lost serious points when two magazines decided to rank it's inferior follow-up, A Ghost is Born, as their best Wilco album.
If you replaced A Ghost is Born with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot on those two lists, YHF would be gaining on Is This It...instead it's barely top 5.
Dear Tomas:
Many thanks for your educated answer, I was not expecting it on the basis of your first post. Anyway I’m sorry but I’m going to (respectfully) disagree again:
- Of course it’s preferable to fully understand the lyrics (that’s the main reason because I really can’t go deeply into hip hop) but today it only takes a minimum level of curiosity and an Internet connection to be able to read any song lyric. But, even more important, you can connect with a song in a only pure musical level without understanding a single word, that’s the greatness of music and that’s why I consider it superior to other forms of art.
- And, what’s that thing about that you must talk the language to understand the context? So, I could not simply understand the situation in Palestine, for instance, unless I learn Arabic first? Should I not even try? Is it impossible for me to form my opinion? As you suggest, although I look for contrasted information, my opinion simply would not be allowed. Of course I’m not suggesting that every opinion is equally valuable but you are supposing that all “foreign” critics don’t have an informed opinion (well, that’s my polite translation of “moron” and “stupid”) because they don’t vote for your favourite album.
- So “local” critics should write only about “local” music. Really? Even in our global times where all kind of information are just a click away? Do you really think that a Spanish critic look to any kind of music through a flamenco lens?
- And finally, are you sure that only the non-English critics copy the others? Sadly all the lists finally are very similar at the end. A lot of styles are completely overlooked again and again (and I’m not talking about “local” styles) while everyone seems to like “some items they are told to do”. Are we all not being too benign with the (supposed) experimental side of Animal Collective while overlooking completely the real experimentalists?
Well that’s all for today. Now I’m going to do my Hindi compilation.
With love and affection from a (yours truly) Spanish moron.
Many thanks for your educated answer, I was not expecting it on the basis of your first post. Anyway I’m sorry but I’m going to (respectfully) disagree again:
- Of course it’s preferable to fully understand the lyrics (that’s the main reason because I really can’t go deeply into hip hop) but today it only takes a minimum level of curiosity and an Internet connection to be able to read any song lyric. But, even more important, you can connect with a song in a only pure musical level without understanding a single word, that’s the greatness of music and that’s why I consider it superior to other forms of art.
- And, what’s that thing about that you must talk the language to understand the context? So, I could not simply understand the situation in Palestine, for instance, unless I learn Arabic first? Should I not even try? Is it impossible for me to form my opinion? As you suggest, although I look for contrasted information, my opinion simply would not be allowed. Of course I’m not suggesting that every opinion is equally valuable but you are supposing that all “foreign” critics don’t have an informed opinion (well, that’s my polite translation of “moron” and “stupid”) because they don’t vote for your favourite album.
- So “local” critics should write only about “local” music. Really? Even in our global times where all kind of information are just a click away? Do you really think that a Spanish critic look to any kind of music through a flamenco lens?
- And finally, are you sure that only the non-English critics copy the others? Sadly all the lists finally are very similar at the end. A lot of styles are completely overlooked again and again (and I’m not talking about “local” styles) while everyone seems to like “some items they are told to do”. Are we all not being too benign with the (supposed) experimental side of Animal Collective while overlooking completely the real experimentalists?
Well that’s all for today. Now I’m going to do my Hindi compilation.
With love and affection from a (yours truly) Spanish moron.
Ok you won me, sorry about using bad words btw never aimed at you.
Still hating how different lists are made in my country, where traditions play so big role. I guess its totally different feeling for music after all. Its more visible on the example of Hindi songwriter having different view of our indie scene and me not able to get my head around Hindi songs at all, but I think its also present within different European subcultures. Then Im thinking to have such views implicated is interesting and all but it mess up with our ranking in a way Im not favorite of which.
Greetings to Spain
Kind of irritated how YHF can't break the top 3. In my eyes it's clearly superior to Is This It and Funeral, and just as good as Kid A.
Same argument- different album: Sound of Silver
However, I think Is This It and Funeral are definitely worthy albums.
I agree completely affy18.
Is This It is a party album. There's nothing that unique or innovative about it. Funeral is deeply personal, but again, it's a little too "Been there done that" for me to be the #1 or #2 album of the decade.
I'm deeply disappointed that Ys isn't getting more acclaim. It's a masterpiece.
In case anyone's curious, the highest-ranked 2000s album on the new all-time top 3000 list that has yet to make a single appearance on an EOD is - by a considerably wide margin - #979, Franz Ferdinand's YOU COULD HAVE IT SO MUCH BETTER. Apparently EOD compilers are taking the album's title to heart.
I think it's a little too jokey and ironic to be included as a legitimate top 10 - the attitude is more like, "Let's pick out the 10 most hipster-y albums showing up on these other lists and say snarky things about them." The tipoff is the discussion suggestion to mention how KID A was given away on the Internet for free!
Even though Henrik gave it the green light?
When I e-mailed him the update I told him my rationale for omitting it, and he didn't say anything, so I took that as agreement.
Gotcha.
