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30 | Danger Mouse & Daniele Luppi | Rome
Score: 96 points (4 votes)
Biggest Fans: SuperFurry (#1); Romain (#5)
Critics' Rank: #131
Genre: Progressive Pop
29 | Wilco | The Whole Love
Score: 104 points (8 votes)
Biggest Fans: Brad (#4); Matski (#4); Rocky Raccoon (#5)
Critics' Rank: #15
Genre: Alt-Country, Alternative Rock
28 | Battles | Gloss Drop
Score: 107 points (4 votes)
Biggest Fans: Michel (#1); Charlie Driggs (#2)
Critics' Rank: #53
Genre: Math Rock, Neo-Prog
27 | Smith Westerns | Dye It Blonde
Score: 108 points (5 votes)
Biggest Fans: Ddiamondd(#1); Zorg (#4)
Critics' Rank: #97
Genre: Indie Rock, Power Pop
26 | Matana Roberts | Coin Coin Chapter One: Gens de couleur libres
Score: 111 points (5 votes)
Biggest Fans: sonofsamiam (#1); schaefer.tk (#2)
Critics' Rank: #133
Genre: Avant-Garde Jazz
25 | Nicolas Jaar | Space Is Only Noise
Score: 123 points (9 votes)
Biggest Fan: Mindrocker (#2)
Critics' Rank: #24
Genre: Left-Field House
24 | The Decemberists | The King Is Dead
Score: 129 points (6 votes)
Biggest Fans: Vanillafire1000 (#2); Slick (#3)
Critics' Rank: #46
Genre: Folk Rock, Country Rock
23 | Cults | Cults
Score: 132 points (4 votes)
Biggest Fans: Tim E (#1); Vanillafire 1000 (#1)
Critics' Rank: #69
Genre: Indie Rock, Twee Pop
22 | Shabazz Palaces | Black Up
Score: 139 points (6 votes)
Biggest Fans: Otisredding (#2); Evan (#3); Mindrocker (#4); antonius (#5)
Critics' Rank: #16
Genre: Experimental Hip Hop
21 | The Antlers | Burst Apart
Score: 139 points (8 votes)
Biggest Fans: Stephan (#2); SuperFurry (#3)
Critics' Rank: #30
Genre: Indie Rock, Dream Pop
New R&B is really just dance pop.
Great results so far. Would have liked Nicolas Jaar a bit higher, but pleased to see Ry Cooder make the top 20.
Great placements for TV on the Radio and the Roots. Critics whiffed on those two albums.
TV on the Radio is the most puzzlingly overlooked album of the year to me. Sure it's not as good as Dear Science, but DS finished number 3 for 2008, and it's not that far off. The Fleet Foxes also put out an album that is universally considered not as good as their `08 effort, yet it was way more acclaimed. Why is TVotR not cool all of a sudden?
10 | St. Vincent | Strange Mercy
Score: 226 points (13 votes)
Biggest Fans: Moonbeam (#2); Reed (#2); Chris K (#3); BillAdama (#5)
Critics' Rank: #9
Genre: Art Pop, Indie Pop
9 | M83 | Hurry Up, We're Dreaming
Score: 241 points (9 votes)
Biggest Fans: Greg (#1); musictoad (#1); Matski (#2); Moonbeam (#3); Chris K (#5)
Critics' Rank: #8
Genre: Synth Pop, Indie Electronic
8 | Radiohead | The King of Limbs
Score: 250 points (14 votes)
Biggest Fans: Chris K (#4); Michel (#4); Gillingham (#5); Mindrocker (#5); Slick (#5)
Critics' Rank: #13
Genre: Electronic, Experimental Rock
7 | James Blake | James Blake
Score: 267 points (10 votes)
Biggest Fans: Mindrocker (#1); antonius (#2); Nick (#2); Otisredding (#3); Charlie Driggs (#4)
Critics' Rank: #3
Genre: Indie Electronic, Dubstep
6 | Destroyer | Kaputt
Score: 272 points (12 votes)
Biggest Fans: Reed (#1); Petri (#2); Zorg (#2); Jonah (#3); Nick (#3); Evan (#5)
Critics' Rank: #5
Genre: Sophisti-Pop, Art Pop
I'm surprised at the high placement of Destroyer, considering Destroyer's Rubies never placed that high and I think it's far better than Kaputt. Kaputt seems kind of like Destroyer-by-numbers.
Nine Types Of Light is a good album, but it's not top tier for me. It's not as consistent and doesn't hold up as well to repeated listening.
Good to see St Vincent in top 10, Tom Waits in top 5.
I think the point Jackson is trying to make is that Nine Types of Light is always compared to Dear Science, and is therefore dismissed because critical opinion says it's less good. Similarly Helplessness Blues is always compared to Fleet Foxes, and most people agree that it's less good, but it doesn't suffer from the same level of dismissal that Nine Types of Light has suffered. The hype surrounding Dear Science was huge, but for some reason, Nine Types of Light seems to have passed by with no one noticing.
These results are great! The only one in the top 10 that I haven't heard properly is M83, but they verge on the annoying to me.
Believe me or not, I used to be a big electro fan in the late 90's
My problem with Gang Gang Dance is that it's too front loaded - the first half is amazing, but it justs limps to the end for me. I would love it if they did a 6 song album where the song lengths are 10 minutes or so. IMO the short songs just can't keep up with Glass Jar and Adult Goth.
5 | Girls | Father, Son, Holy Ghost
Score: 298 points (14 votes)
Biggest Fans: Jonah (#1); Brad (#2); Evan (#2); Zorg (#3); John (#5)
Critics' Rank: #11
Genre: Indie Rock
4 | Fleet Foxes | Helplessness Blues
Score: 312 points (21 votes)
Biggest Fans: nicolas (#1); Jonah (#2); Dan M (#5); Nick (#5)
Critics' Rank: #4
Genre: Contemporary Folk, Folk Rock
3 | Bon Iver | Bon Iver, Bon Iver
Score: 351 points (17 votes)
Biggest Fans: Chris K (#1); Nassim (#1); Otisredding (#1); John (#4); Nick (#4)
Critics' Rank: #2
Genre: Indie Folk
2 | Tom Waits | Bad As Me
Score: 374 points (16 votes)
Biggest Fans: antonius (#1); BillAdama (#1); Rocky Raccoon (#1); Gillingham (#3); nicolas (#3); sonofsamiam (#4)
Critics' Rank: #6
Genre: Roots Rock
1 | PJ Harvey | Let England Shake
Score: 707 points (27 votes)
Biggest Fans: dr_Robert (#1); Gillingham (#1); Jackson (#1); Matski (#1); Nick (#1)
Chris K (#2); Michel (#2); Rocky Raccoon (#2); Brad (#3); Charlie Driggs (#3)
Reed (#4); musictoad (#5); Otisredding (#5); schaefer.tk (#5); Tim E (#5)
Critics' Rank: #1
Genre: Alternative Singer/Songwriter
WOW. What a huge win, and deserved too. I'm very very happy with that top 5 indeed. Thanks a lot Dan M!
Looks like I should have explained myself a little more. The statement I was trying to make is completely independent of the quality of the actual albums. I happen to think TV on the Radio is the best band of the last 10 years and respect the Fleet Foxes more than I like them, but that's not the point.
Over the last two years, there are plenty of examples of critics rewarding artists with high placements while admitting their album doesn't match up to their previous work. Arcade Fire, LCD Soundsystem, The National, and now Fleet Foxes are all huge indie artists that released albums most admitted were subpar to their previous work, yet the albums still were super-acclaimed. This must be, at least in part, because of the reputation and popularity of the artists.
What I want to know is why TV on the Radio isn't in this group. Their previous two albums had made the top five of their given years, yet Nine Types of Light barely even got attention. Even I don't think it's as good as their previous work, but that's not the point. My point, which Zorg seemed to get, was that most of the time big artists can be highly acclaimed even with a subpar album (look at Kanye and Jay-Z this year). Maybe this is because artists release fewer albums these days, maybe it's because some releases are so hyped that critics don't want to look foolish, or maybe it's some other reason. But I just wanted to know why TV on the Radio isn't 'cool' to like anymore.
As far as Nine Types of Light goes, I'll definitely disagree that the individual songs aren't memorable. Second Song, Will Do, and Repetition stand up with the band's best work. There is definitely something about the production that makes the album as a whole less memorable, and it's not a classic. But that doesn't mean TV on the Radio went from being one of the best artists in the world to being also-rans. Usually falls from grace happen when an artist releases a divisive work or something in a completely different style, like Sufjan Stevens last year.
I'm not trying to diss any of the bands I mentioned, I'm just trying to make a general point about today's music criticism that, for some reason, does not seem to apply to TVoTR.
@Zorg I think you are on the money about Eye Contact. Glass Jar is definitely the best song on there. I would like to see them either go to an album of longer songs or a shorter album with better flow like Saint Dympha. Eye Contact was a step backward for them IMO.
EDIT: Looks like my soliloquy got upstaged by the final results. I'm so glad 1 and 2 placed about 3-5. PJ Harvey really deserved this win; Let England Shake was my most played album of the year and only gets better with repeated listens.
PJ Harvey lets AM shake. Great list and thanks Dan M!
Great job. Wonders records. Beautiful photo of our favorite female rocker. And big big big PJ Harvey.
Yeesh, what a smiting result from Peej!!! Deserved it every bit.
Interesting to see that the top three here consisted of the same three from Metacritic's, consecutive #1's lists for 2011.
Furthermore, despite all this talk of whether Helplessness Blues is as good as its predecessor, it's great to see it riding so high too.
Congrats for the presentation Dan M!
I think PJ is going to dominate critic polls this year. It just came out in February and held everyone's attention all year.
Especially glad to see Waits #2.
Superb presentation, Dan M
And superb list, boys
I haven't listened enough 2011 albums to make a worthy list but the Top 5 of the ones I listened so far could have been:
1. Destroyer - Kaputt
2. James Blake - James Blake
3. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
4. Tom Waits - Bad As Me
5. Fleet Foxes - Helplesness Blues
Not too original, I know...
Nice job, Dan. Winner isn't surprising, but the margin of victory is.
Tune yards won pazz n jop?
That one's kind of a head scratcher. I would have believed a few other ones beating PJ Harvey, like Tom Waits, or even a mainstream one like Adele or that Jay Z/Kanye one that came in third. This list doesn't seem to consistently fit any taste profile at all.
I guess I should give Kaputt another listen. I don't dislike it, it just doesn't seem any different from anything else in his catalog either as Destroyer or with the Pornos. I am totally clueless as to why, if this one is doing so well, why didn't Destroyer's Rubies or his other albums in the interim do this well too?
Thanks a lot Dan! Great results. PJ Harvey just ruled last year singlehandedly. Deservedly so.
I think Low's C'mon just missed out? It's probably in the top 60, I guess.
Thanks for the kind words about the presentation. I really enjoyed putting it together. But my work isn't over yet - stay tuned for next week's songs poll results.