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Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Ok, I think we have our solution

Each month, we'll qulify 15 albums using the steeper scale, including at least two non-UK/US albums, of which at least one is not in English?

Now we have to set the scale

BillAdama suggested the following one

1. 100
2. 80
3. 60
4. 40
5. 30
6. 20
7. 18
8. 16
9. 14
10. 12
11. 10
12. 9
13. 8
14.7

etc...
20.1

If I have no serious objection/other scale I'll implement that rule on wednesday for the new decade poll

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Dan M
nicolas
Does it have to concern albums and songs ? Just albums ?

I would prefer to keep on doing both albums and songs polls (I take albums more “seriously” but always enjoy compiling a songs list too).


Sorry I wasn't very clear. What I meant is do you think there should be 150 songs or just 100 in the final round ?

Dan M
nicolas
Should we qualify let's say 12 albums each month and in the end of the year qualify the remaining 30 by playoffs to help the "good" years against the "weak" years

There have been disagreement in other threads about which years are “good” and which are “weak”. It’s too subjective, and to keep things fair I think the same amount of albums from each year should advance to the finals.

I’m not too sure about the playoffs scenario (as Nassim pointed out in the other thread, it would frustrate people if some of their favourites got kicked out, and there’s a big chance that non-indie/rock music would get replaced by more indie/rock, which kinda defeats the purpose).


Here again I didn't explain myself enough. What I have in mind is :

1) Each month rom february to november, we select 10
albums as usual, plus one foreign album and 2 other albums (either the BillAdama or Dan way).
Then, in late november, we take the 20 remaining best albums ON A GLOBAL SCALE, all years taken together (i.e taking in account their points/nb of voters to avoid the turnout differences between monts). that could be a good solution to avoid the year to year bias

3) We'll have to define what is "foreign". Non US or UK ? Non anglophone ? Both of the above (like in the AM World Cup) ? ANd what if there's already a foreign album in the first 10 ?

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

So is it 15 or 20?

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Also, maybe I did not understand the voting system, but isn't this way a little too restrictive in terms of the albums which will compete each other for the final rankings?

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Spaz I have no time to explain, but please go the "Best albums of the 2000s poll" thread and you'll get the rules. Add the updating I did here and you'll get the picture

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Thanks a lot!

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

I like any system that raises the odds of an album getting in even though fewer people have given it a chance and listened to it. I would prefer the '2 reserved slots for best with only points from the highest X votes' thing, but the steeper scale is a step in the right direction.

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

BillAdama
I like any system that raises the odds of an album getting in even though fewer people have given it a chance and listened to it. I would prefer the '2 reserved slots for best with only points from the highest X votes' thing, but the steeper scale is a step in the right direction.


i actually agree with this. not crazy about the cultural diversity quota idea.

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

Well I like the cultural quotas. Let's say it will be the Nicolas touch in this poll. Unless there is a strong opposition to it, of course
You still have 2 days to make yourself heard

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

I know we don't need more alternatives, but short after I came up with the top 20 scoring for the previous 90s poll I wondered why I allowed points for more albums than what went to the finals - I don't think it makes much sense to give points to albums that I don't think belong in the final.

Therefore, maybe we should only give points to the top 15. That also means less work for the person who counts the scores. The simple change of the scores would be

1. 100
2. 80
3. 60
4. 40
5. 30
6. 20
7. 18
8. 16
9. 14
10. 12
11. 10
12. 8
13. 6
14. 4
15. 2

However, since all these points can be divided by 2, this looks pretty sweet:

1. 50
2. 40
3. 30
4. 20
5. 15
6. 10
7. 9
8. 8
9. 7
10. 6
11. 5
12. 4
13. 3
14. 2
15. 1

This is a quite steep scale. More or less it's only the top 5 that matters which would lead to interesting results!

Re: The 90's album and song poll : voting and point system brainstorming

I like that (not only because it is less work for me )
So Spaz' comment was accurate (we've spent so much time rating 20 albums that we'd forgotten about that)
the 2nd scale is good