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I just woke up from a funny dream.
I was at a Sufjan Stevens concert, but before the concert started I was eager to see the countdown of this poll so I asked the technician if he could show the forum on the big screen. He refused and said it was time for the special guest on stage. But after the guest performance it suddenly said "#7 Sufjan Stevens - John Wayne Gacy Jr., fans: #1 Henrik". The crowd started mumbling. What was that? Then it moved over to a movie poll with some collage of Brad Pitt and people started yelling. The guy next to me shouted "You say it's your website!? We want Sufjan, you damn fool!!!" But then Sufjan came on stage. He had seen the screen too and began with the words "Number 7...I'm not sure if that's good or bad. But I do know that I have a number one fan, and if you're here tonight, then this song is for you..."
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Vanillafire1000
Moonbeam
I'd also put "In the Backseat" and "Rebellion (Lies)" as the 1st and 2nd best on Funeral.
I 100% disagree. I feel that Funeral kinda of falls off after "Wake Up," with the final 3 songs missing something for me. I still won't say they are bad songs, just not as mind-blowing as the "Neighborhood" suite was to me.
Same here. The Neighborhood suite + Wake Up is easily the best part. Rebellion (Lies) is a good song, but overrated as hell.
And btw, totally off topic, but I just listened to Umbrella and I have to say that definitely should have made the cut. Not saying it's one of the very best songs of the decade, but it should have made the top 100 (a hell of a lot better than the Missy songs, at least).
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Wow, that was a great dream, Sufjan himself aknowledged that you were his fan #1? And I was not in it? Because I was # too. Go! Sufjan Go!
About Funeral songs, I just read my 2004 list and the 4 songs I voted were:
1. Rebellion (Lies)
2. Wake Up
3. Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)
4. Crown of Love (one of the best song probably underated even by themselves, or at least not ussually performed on their live shows).
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What a great dream and story Henrik. It's good to see that these results are so important that they come into dreams. And now there's some extra tension with the countdown.
Biggest fans: Romain #1, beefsupreme #3, Harold Wexler #5, Nick #6, VanillaFire1000 #8, Miguel #10
Haters: Greg #92
Voters: 30
Comments: The seven-beat bassline is so timeless that when I first heard the song in 2003 I thought it was a Classic Rock song from the seventies. A bit repetitive, but that bum...bum-BUM-BUM-bum..bum...bum... will live forever. #43. (Evan)
Even I couldn't deny them at this point, as much as I wanted to. Brilliant stomping raucousness. (Moonbeam)
This song shows that guitar riffs were still relevant in the 00s, or at least in the White Stripes talented hands. Because yes, that was a guitar. That was NOT a bass. (Honorio)
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nicolas
Crown of love is one of my favorites with Rebellion. Don't understand why it wasn't ranked
I agree completely.
These results have not been all that predictable, which is great. I'm quite excited about the rest of the countdown now. What time is it in Finland? Petri, are you still having your breakfast? (Another great job, by the way, Petri.)
Biggest fans: Harold Wexler #1, Slick #3, Zorg #5, Dan M #6, Schwah #8, Moonbeam #9
Haters: Nassim #93, sonofsamiam #92
Voters: 30
Comments: The only song I don't enjoy much in Funeral (Nassim)
Not that it's a bad song, but I think it's finally starting to assume its rightful position as the third or fourth best song on Funeral. #47. (Evan)
"In the Backseat" is my favorite on Funeral, but I've probably played this the most. That massive pulse is undeniably powerful. (Moonbeam)
There are many outstanding features here: the pounding rhythm, the vital vocals ("lies! lies!") but let me choose the change from A major to A minor on 3:35. Epic. (Honorio)
Biggest fans: nicolas #1, Dan M #1, Honorio #1, Henrik #1, Miguel #5, Evan #7 Stephan #8, Henry #9
Haters: Slick #99, beefsupreme #98, Nick # 93
Voters: 30
Comments: Haunting. #7. (Evan)
3min 20sec of some of the most graceful, sensitive and sublimely beautiful music ever recorded. (Dan M)
Sufjan's ability to place me into the worlds he creates is really, really impressive. There are quite a few songs from Illinois I enjoy more than this, but it is still quite powerful. (Moonbeam)
Sufjan tells the scary story of John Wayne Gacy, Jr., a famous serial killer that killed "twenty-seven people / even more". But the most disturbing is the gentle and sweet tone that Sufjan applies to that tremendous story. And its devastating conclusion: "And in my best behaviour / I am really just like him / Look beneath the floorboards / for the secrets I have hid". (Honorio)
"Number 7...I'm not sure if that's good or bad. But I do know that I have a number one fan, and if you're here tonight, then this song is for you..." (Sufjan Stevens in Henrik's dream)
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Here is what I think about the songs of Funeral :
Perfect song :
Wake Up
Wonderful songs :
In the Backseat
Neighborhood #1
Neighborhood #2
Great songs :
Neighborhood #3
Crown of Love
Neighborhood #4
Haiti
Good songs :
Une Année sans Lumière
Rebellion (Lies)
I have seen also people keeping chanting the end of Rebellion (Lies) at the end of a concert and it sure was great... but it can not compare with an acoustic Wake Up sung by thousands of people under a heavy rain.
The Arcade Fire song which always is incredibly greater live than in album is Keep the Car Running, always a high time of their live shows (Ready to Start is a song made to be played live too)
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I can see into the future!
And Dan, I didn't know we had the same favourite song, but I could have easily guessed as I feel that we both search for "the most graceful, sensitive and sublimely beautiful music ever recorded" (and we found it!). That sums up why I took your decision to leave quite hard.
Biggest fans: Nick #3, Romain #5, Rocky Raccoon #6, Slick #6, beefsupreme #7, Chris #9, Midaso #10, Chris K. #10
Haters: None
Voters: 30
Comments: She's definitely tapping into some righteous anger here. (Moonbeam)
"Straight to Hell", "Rump Shaker", shotguns, cash machines, Bollywood, a global sound without geographical and generic restrictions, the bold sound of M.I.A. (Honorio)
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Henrik
And Dan, I didn't know we had the same favourite song, but I could have easily guessed as I feel that we both search for "the most graceful, sensitive and sublimely beautiful music ever recorded" (and we found it!).
I've always thought you had exquisite taste in music. And just so you know, I have had numerous hours of fun with your playlists on Spotify, from your favourite songs of 1900-1949 all the way through to your Swedish favourites.
Biggest fans: Schwah #1, sonofsamiam #1, Zorg #2, beefsupreme #2, Dan M #2, Nassim #2, VanillaFire1000 #6, Jackson #6, Nick #8, Harold Wexler #9
Haters: None
Voters: 30
Comments: Close 2nd, might be the most innocuous song ever. I usually put it of the end of my mix when I go running, how heavy your legs can be you can not stop running during those verses (Nassim)
Thrilling rapping and a vigorous fusion of funk, hip-hop beats, metal and electro propel this song forward with the speed and energy of a hurricane. For me, no other song in the 00s felt more alive. (Dan M)
This song takes absolutely no prisoners in its frantic assault. Hot damn! (Moonbeam)
Biggest fans: Stephan #3, Rocky Raccoon #3, Dan M #4, Henrik #5, VanillaFire1000 #5, Henry #5, Harold Wexler #6, Nick #7, nicolas #9
Haters: Chris K. #93
Voters: 30
Comments: Cee-Lo's vocal acrobatics and the punchy guitar get all the credit, but it is the eerie background vocals that really sell this to me. (Moonbeam)
In a decade where mainstream and indie audiences travelled paths each time more divergent there was a song in the middle of the 00s that appeared to please everyone. It was not exactly pop or rap but it found the link between both styles (soul, you know), it sounded both retro and contemporary (neo-soul, that's it) but it succeeded mainly because it was GREAT. (Honorio)
Biggest fans: Nick #1, Moonbeam #2, VanillaFire1000 #3, Nassim #3, Chris K. #5, Midaso #6, Zorg #7, Michel #7, Jackson #8, Stephan #9, Jonah #9
Haters: Henrik #93
Voters: 30
Comments: This song hits me like a sustained lightning bolt. I remember the exact moment I first heard it driving to work at a new job to start a new life in a new country, but ever mindful of everything that I had left behind. As time has gone on, I've had less and less opportunity to communicate with (much less see) my loved ones, and I'll be damned if this song doesn't capture that longing ache. (Moonbeam)
Biggest fans: Rocky Raccoon #1, beefsupreme #1, Henrik #2, Slick #2, Nick #2, Evan #4, Dan M #8, Henry #10
Haters: Depeche Mode #94
Voters: 30
Comments: This one's going to last forever. #4. (Evan)
I should like this a heck of a lot more than I do. It is wildly vibrant, but my favorite from The Love Below will always be "Prototype". (Moonbeam)
Blender tried to describe "Hey Ya!" like "electro/folk-rock/funk/power pop/hip-hop/neo-soul/kitchen sink rave-up". But the thing it was basically was pure fun. (Honorio)
So overrated, I liked it as a child but now? (Depeche Mode)
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So that was it.
I want to thank all who participated for the final or any year poll (albums or songs). Big thanks for those who wrote comments. The presentation looks much better with wise words. Also big thanks for people who commented in threads.
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Great results, generally speaking. I find the song results more interesting because not as much consensus has developed around the songs, so the results are more unpredictable.
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The most unpredictable results ever? Nevertheless, I think we are all generally happy with the results. I had a great time following this. Thank you, Petri!
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Well, I'm glad somethings on this forum aren't predictable.
Now we enter the 90's poll, where the winners are as predictable as the phases of the moon (Automatic for the People....duh!)
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Excellent job Petri. I learn more about my musical preferences with each of the polls and enjoy reading the perspectives of others, especially when I initially don't share the views of the person providing the comment.
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Excellent job Petri. I learn more about my musical preferences with each of the polls and enjoy reading the perspectives of others, especially when I initially don't share the views of the person providing the comment.
I think I agree entire with this, except I would probably bump Haiti up into 8 category. It's rare that an album contains such perfect individual songs but it all feels better together. It really is like a greatest hits, but it actually works.
Shocked with the results, I have to say! I would never have thought Hey Ya, never. Thanks very much for the quick turnaround of results! Now I must go back to listening to Sleater-Kinney...
Edit: continuing the I Agree With Moonbeam theme, "Sufjan's ability to place me into the worlds he creates is really, really impressive. There are quite a few songs from Illinois I enjoy more than this, but it is still quite powerful." While thing is probably the most powerful song on the album, there are other songs that feel so expansive and kid-in-a-sweetshop that I can't help but go back to those: Come on! Feel The Illinoise!, Casimir Pulaski Day, Chicago, The Predatory Wasp..., The Tallest Man The Broadest Shoulders. They all are right up there.
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Congratulations Petri for the great presentation. Could it be possible to post the Excels sheets? I would like to have especially the Excel sheets of every year (I keep a copy of every year Excel file of the other polls).
I like a lot the final results, although the final list was quite different to mine, 14 song of the Top 25 were outside my Top 25, including 3 of the Top 5. The obvious winners were: Outkast (#1, #4 and #13), Arcade Fire (#8, #10 and #14), LCD Soundsystem (#2 and #12) and Sufjan Stevens (#7, #18 and #19).
The opinions were widely divided in this Songs Poll, with only 18 songs with no haters. Even some songs on the Top 10 got a significant amount of haters, like "John Wayne Gacy, Jr." that three voters put on their bottom 10 (why oh why??), without these low votes probably could have reached the Top 5. And, talking about "John Wayne Gacy, Jr."...
Henrik
I can see into the future!
And Dan, I didn't know we had the same favourite song, but I could have easily guessed as I feel that we both search for "the most graceful, sensitive and sublimely beautiful music ever recorded" (and we found it!)
nicolas
what I love is : nicolas, henrik, honorio, danM with the same #1
The #7 for Sufjan proved the divinatory abilities of Henrik (please, Henrik, don’t dream about the end of the world!) and the four simultaneous #1 established a solid new link. So say goodbye to the H-Duo, to Nic & Hon and to the Paris Three and say hello to The Four Horsemen!!!
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Honorio
And, talking about "John Wayne Gacy, Jr."...the four simultaneous #1 established a solid new link. So say goodbye to the H-Duo, to Nic & Hon and to the Paris Three and say hello to The Four Horsemen!!!
Whoo-hooh! I feel honoured to be allowed into such a great club.
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Dan M
Honorio
And, talking about "John Wayne Gacy, Jr."...the four simultaneous #1 established a solid new link. So say goodbye to the H-Duo, to Nic & Hon and to the Paris Three and say hello to The Four Horsemen!!!
Whoo-hooh! I feel honoured to be allowed into such a great club.
And thanks again, Petri!
Argh... the cool guys form a clan, just like in high school...
Is there any file with the correlation values ?
Jonah, we have the same number 1 ! Schwah, same top 2 and you hate Do You Realize too ! Guys, let's create our home clan, we will be like the AM version of the chess club !
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Henrik
Petri, how are the spreadsheets with complete lists and clan statistics coming along? Let me know if you need any assistance.
Sorry for the delay Henrik and others who have waited those sheets. I just sent (minutes ago) results of the final to Henrik. I'll also send the year lists later (today).
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Thanks Petri!
I will upload the spreadsheet tonight, but here are some brief clan stats...
Albums poll
Highest correlations:
Nick & Jonathon, 0.65
Nick & Dan M, 0.59
Petri & Gillingham, 0.57
Harold Wexler & Rocky Raccoon, 0.54
Rocky Raccoon & Dan M, 0.53
Michel & Gillingham, 0.51
Honorio & Dan M, 0.50
Lowest correlation:
Gillingham & Tim E, -0,34
Songs poll
Highest correlations:
Miguel & Romain, 0.52
Stephan & Midaso, 0.49
Nicolas & Honorio, 0.45
Nick & Dan M, 0.45
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Yeah, Nic & Hon strike again!! And a high correlation with Dan M too!
And a suprising high level of agreement with the overall results for sonofsamiam (even higher than mine!). I don't know how to explain it, I don't know if sonofsamiam got closer to us or it was the rest that followed sonofsamiam.