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Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Moonbeam
A Rush of Blood to the Head so high is


Just fine with me. I agree with Rocky Raccoon's comment - while I'm not much of a fan of what they've done since (the "bigger" they get, the blander they become), I think ARoBttH is a great - and brilliantly sequenced - album. And "Amsterdam" is one of my favorite closing tracks ever.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Super Furry Animals in the top 40 is the biggest surprise for me so far (and not in a bad way).

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

# 30

Kanye West - Late Registration

Score: 1416 points

Biggest fans:
Harold Wexler #7, sonofsamiam #7, Zorg #9

Haters:
BillAdama #99, Romain #96, SuperFurry #93, Henrik #92, Jackson #64/68

Voters:
29

Comments:
Almost as good as The College Dropout, but a couple of weaker tracks hold it back. No. 72 (Rocky Raccoon)

Gold Digger (11.1), Gone (11.4), Heard 'Em Say (11.4) (Henry)


Place in the 2005 poll: 6

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 54

AMF poll of 00's rank: 45







# 29

Antony and the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now

Score: 1422 points

Biggest fans:
Nicolas #5, Petri #5, Romain #5

Haters:
Nassim #100, Chris K. #94, Slick #91, beefsupreme #76/76, Jackson #65/68

Voters:
34

Comments:
The aching throats of pre-rock divas like Edith Piaf or Billie Holiday and the decadence of the ladyboys of the Warhol Factory in the same person. (Honorio)

I had hope given the quality of the opener of this album but I really can not stand Antony's voice here. Falsetto is already often a drawback, but that much vibrato is moOoOoOoOoOore than I could stAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAnd. Just sing Antony, like in Hercules in Love Affair, and then I will find you awesome (Blind and Time Will really are !) (Nassim)

Intensly personal, you don't feel like there's any kind of filter between you and Antony's emotions. There's no doubt this is an acquired taste, but it's one I acquired on first listen. No. 35 (Rocky Raccoon)

Hope There's Someone (11.3), My Lady Story (11.5), For Today I Am A Boy (11.5), Man Is The Baby (11.5) (Henry)


Place in the 2005 poll: 2

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 19

AMF poll of 00's rank: 35







# 28

Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion

Score: 1430 points

Biggest fans:
Dan M #4, Chris K. #4, Evan #9

Haters:
Stephan #97, Michel #93, nicolas #91, John #91/91, Jackson #66/68, beefsupreme #71/76

Voters:
33

Comments:
I've tried numerous times to like this one better than I do, but I can't quite get over the hump with it. Although I think it's very good, I also think its variations on a theme get a little too samey after a while. But it is my favorite AC album. No. 59 (Rocky Raccoon)

My Girls (10), Brother Sport (11), Lion In a Coma (11), Summertime Clothes (11.2) (Henry)


Place in the 2009 poll: 2

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 8

AMF poll of 00's rank: 13







# 27

TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain

Score: 1473 points

Biggest fans:
Michel #6, Gillingham #9

Haters:
Nicolas #98

Voters:
33

Comments:
"I was a lover before this war." That phrase just seems to perfectly describe the mood of this album for me. I think the last couple of tracks are a little sub-par, but before that it's all brilliant. No. 40 (Rocky Raccoon)

Wolf Like Me (11), I Was a Lover (11.3), Playhouses () (Henry)


Place in the 2006 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 30

AMF poll of 00's rank: 19







# 26

Interpol - Turn On the Bright Lights

Score: 1473 points

Biggest fans:
Michel #4, Zorg #4, SuperFurry #9

Haters:
Midaso #98, Rocky Raccoon #96

Voters:
34

Comments:
I find it too derivative and gloomy to make any sort of connection. I like their second album, which I voted for, much better because they brighten up a bit and forge more of their own identity. No. 96 (Rocky Raccoon)

An album of such flow, it just feels like from the first guitars of "Untitled" to the close of "Leif Erikson" you've been on one amazing journey from the dirt of "Roland" to the calm of "PDA" to the longing of "Stella was a diver". Every song really holds its weight, which is why it manages to hold the lofty position of fourth on my list. (Zorg)

PDA (10), Untitled (11), NYC (11), Stella Was a Diver and She Was Always Down (11), Obstacle (11), (Henry)


Place in the 2002 poll: 5

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 24

AMF poll of 00's rank: 14







#1 of 2006 is out but we still have one album left from 2006.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Group of very interesting and different albums just missed top 20.

# 25

The xx - XX

Score: 1482 points

Biggest fans:
Henrik #5, Evan #10, Nassim #10

Haters:
None

Voters:
33

Comments:
Moonbeam once said that "it sounds like they've just discovered love for the first time and are confessing it in a hush as if it's some sacred secret", I would replace "love" by "80s" and it still got sense. (Honorio)

The heartbeat of a relationship is told on this subtly engrossing album. Sometimes it's too subtle, but I think that's partly the point. I just wish they'd let loose a couple of times. No. 54 (Rocky Raccoon)

Night Time (10), Crystalised (11), Intro (11), VCR (11.1), Infiinity (11.1) (Henry)


Place in the 2009 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 58

AMF poll of 00's rank: 51







# 24

The Avalanches - Since I Left You

Score: 1487 points

Biggest fans:
Jackson #1, Midaso #1, Nick #7, VanillaFire1000 #10

Haters:
None

Voters:
31

Comments:
It might be slightly overlong, but this is one of the most fantastic trip of the decade through a brand new world of wonder. Most sampling albums are either just directed toward the performance in the worst case and the fun in the best (for 2 Many DJ's and Girl Talk especially, who, as talented as they are technically, do not choose to brag through their music), but here it is something else, a patchwork living all by itself to create new tales and adventures. Favorite Song : Frontier Psychiatrist (Nassim)

Wholly unique. Maybe part of the reason they haven't released another album is because they don't want to repeat this one but can't think of a direction to go that would be as original. No. 44 (Rocky Raccoon)

Since I Left You (11.1), Frontier Pstchiatrist (11.5) (Henry)


Place in the 2000 poll: 4

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 44

AMF poll of 00's rank: 23







# 23

M.I.A. - Kala

Score: 1490 points

Biggest fans:
Chris #3, Rocky Raccoon #6, beefsupreme #9, Zorg #10

Haters:
None

Voters:
31

Comments:
The debut was great, and this is even better. What makes it better? Two things: the diversity of the songs as M.I.A. goes globe-trotting and finds inspiration in every corner of the world, and a little song called "Paper Planes." No. 6 (Rocky Raccoon)

Paper Planes (10), Jimmy (11), Boyz (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2007 poll: 5

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 26

AMF poll of 00's rank: 21







# 22

OutKast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below

Score: 1545 points

Biggest fans:
Chris #2, Dan M #6, nicolas #6, Honorio #8, Harold Wexler #9

Haters:
Midaso #93

Voters:
31

Comments:
A double CD with two solo albums was the 2003 Outkast album. Big Boi stayed true to hip-hop with his "Speakerboxxx" but the real gem was André 3000's album "The Love Below", an adventurous journey through the best black music of the last decades, from Coltrane to Public Enemy, from Stevie Wonder to Prince but showcasing a strong personality of its own. (Honorio)

Favorite Song : years have passed, and despite all the chatter about the Love Below's creativity, genius and so, it is Speakerboxxx which rise as a masterpiece. Both have been topped, Big Boi making a wonderful Sir Luscious Left Food and Janelle Monae beating Andre3000 in the "new Prince" category, but Speakerboxxx already had all the qualities of the son of Chico Dusty, with brilliant verses (the Rooster), guests at their best (Flip Flop Rock) and samples from out of nowhere (Ghetto Musik) while the Love Below, aside from its 5 or 6 wonderful tracks (Hey Ya, Roses, Happy Valentine's Day, She Lives in my Laps...) has its loads of fillers and annoying skits. (Nassim)

Andre's side has the best songs, but Big Boi's side is more consistenly good. It was the hit that Stankonia deserved to be, but it deserves its props. No. 49 (Rocky Raccoon)

Hey Ya ( , The Way You Move (10) (Henry)


Place in the 2003 poll: 4

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 21

AMF poll of 00's rank: 26







# 21

The Knife - Silent Shout

Score: 1546 points

Biggest fans:
BillAdama #3, Nassim #4, Henrik #4, Michel #7, Jonah #8, Petri #8, Chris #8

Haters:
Rocky Raccoon #93

Voters:
32

Comments:
I will more or less repeat what I said in my review of the album (see here : http://www.indiepoprock.fr/review.php?id=2747 ), this album is a schizophrenic one : made for the brain as much as for the legs, ambitious but welcoming, catchy and eerie, strange but endearing... The more a song goes on, the more you can both feel a threat above your head and a need to dance. I don't know many albums where the music, in terms of melodies, choice of instruments and production tricks, fits the themes that much, Silent Shout is like a self-restrained scream, Forest Family builds up like an anger condemned to be suppressed, Na Na Na hides sheer madness and I'm pretty confident that most of the choices of the sounds of One Hit are very meaningful (I could develop on this one if needed). It does not keep most songs from being direct and catchy, Like a Pen could become your new workout track for instance. It is the catchiness of the melodies that matters most, and it is the best strength of this album, but it does not hurt that it has so many other qualities. Favorite Song : Silent Shout (Nassim)

I can hear why some people like this record, I'm just not one of them. Not bad, but not good. No. 93 (Rocky Raccoon)

. Silent Shout (10), We Share Our Mother's Health (11.1), Neverland (11.5), Forest Families (), Marble House () (Henry)


Place in the 2006 poll: 2

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 35

AMF poll of 00's rank: 18






Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Yes, this is where it gets interesting. Where we have gotten rid of all the samey indie rock stuff, ha ha.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Henry what is the meaning/scale of your ratings ? We were just wondering with Greg

Hope listening to all this indie stuff was too much of a trial

I realize I don't feel very involved in the 00s, well not in these 00s

This is probably the decade in which my tastes differ the most from the forum's

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Wow, huge gap between #22 and #23. Biggest gap since the very beginning I think.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

nicolas
Henry what is the meaning/scale of your ratings ? We were just wondering with Greg

That really looks very interesting. The smaller the score is the better the song is (but nothing is better than 6)?

And yes the gap between #22 and #23 is the biggest since the start.

From now on I release the albums in smaller parts. And I won't release albums for some hours because it's time for music quiz (in one bar). I hope our team will win tonight.

# 20

The National - Boxer

Score: 1554 points

Biggest fans:
Stephan #1, Gillingham #2, Evan #8, Midaso #9

Haters:
Greg #78/83, Brad #92

Voters:
33

Comments:
This one was a real grower. No. 45 (Rocky Raccoon)

Fake Empire (10), Ada (11), Mistaken for Strangers (11.2) (Henry)


Place in the 2007 poll: 3

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 42

AMF poll of 00's rank: 36







# 19

Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf

Score: 1556 points

Biggest fans:
Nassim #1, beefsupreme #3, Greg #4, Evan #7

Haters:
BillAdama #94, Midaso #94, Stephan #92

Voters:
30

Comments:
Accurate title. (Stephan)

My favorite album of the decade encapsulates what I want rock'n'roll to be : ambitious, fun, catchy, sexy, witty, deep, rich, unstoppable… It does not spoil anything that it units great musicians at the top of their game, especially Dave Grohl who is amazing from the start to the end, especially in the intro of A Song for the Dead and in the solo of No One Knows. Lots of great song, but my favorite by far, favorite song of the decade in fact, is A Song for the Deaf (Nassim)

One of the great hard rock albums of the decade, or any decade for that matter. What makes it so good is the quality and variety of the songwriting. No. 37 (Rocky Raccoon)

No One Knows (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2002 poll: 4

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 23

AMF poll of 00's rank: 22







# 18

PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea

Score: 1601 points

Biggest fans:
Rocky Raccoon #3, SuperFurry #5, Scwah #9, Greg #10, Moonbeam #10

Haters:
Nassim #92, Jonah #77/77

Voters:
30

Comments:
PJ has at least a masterpiece for every decade, these "Stories" from the 00s showed a PJ more mature, direct, personal, vulnerable, stylish and... sexy. (Honorio)

Harvey’s New York romance is as much about the city as it is the man in her life. Inspired by both, she made some of the simplest-yet-beautiful rock music of her career. With heavy thumping guitars backing her, Harvey sums it up as, “I can’t believe life’s so complex / When I just want to sit here and watch you undress.” No. 3 (Rocky Raccoon)

This Mess We're In (10), One Line (11), Good Fortune (11.1), Beautiful Feeling (11.4), (Henry)


Place in the 2000 poll: 3

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 28

AMF poll of 00's rank: 53






Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

nicolas
Henry what is the meaning/scale of your ratings ? We were just wondering with Greg


The numbers are my enjoyability rating for the song.
1 is the best (5.0 on RYM)
6 is very good, but not one of my all time faves (@ 4.2 on RYM)
9 is @ 3.5 on RYM
11 is reasonably enjoyable and @ 3.0 on RYM
11.4 is a balance point where I either find the song acceptable to listen to, or believe that it may be a grower even if I don't yet enjoy it (@ 2.5 on RYM).
11.9 means that I do not care for the song (@1.5 on RYM)
12 or higher means that I likely will not listen to the entire song because I find it to be so annoying (@1.0 on RYM)

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Henry, that is one weird scale!

What about the songs you haven't listed, are they always worse than the listed ones? If so, I now know for sure that this isn't your decade...

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Henrik
Henry, that is one weird scale!

What about the songs you haven't listed, are they always worse than the listed ones? If so, I now know for sure that this isn't your decade...


Yes, it is a weird scale.

Typically, the songs that I listed in the comments are the songs that I thought were the best on the corresponding album. But, there are many songs that I have not heard enough times to believe that my present rating will endure.

The aughts was not my favorite decade for music. But, there were plenty of songs that I rated 11 or better, so it was still plenty of fun.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Petri

From now on I release the albums in smaller parts. And I won't release albums for some hours because it's time for music quiz (in one bar). I hope our team will win tonight.


So did you win ?
There is a pretty fun music quiz in Paris every Tuesday but I very rarely find people to join me (and I have won every time but one ^^ )
There is also a great quiz in a pub every Wednesday, general knowledge not just music, I think I have been there more than 60 times with various friends and we only won 4 times ! I can not count how often we ended 2nd or 3rd (among between 15 and 20 teams most of the time)...
I really like music quizes, I guess I'm not the only one here

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Nassim
Petri

From now on I release the albums in smaller parts. And I won't release albums for some hours because it's time for music quiz (in one bar). I hope our team will win tonight.


So did you win ?
I really like music quizes, I guess I'm not the only one here

Thanks for asking.
The quiz went very badly. The subject of the quiz was new music (meaning music released in 2012). I hadn't heard any of those songs (11 song clips) (although we recognized some of the artists). The straight question part went quite well (who's the producer of upcoming Black Sabbath album etc.) (although I didn't remember name of Lana Del Rey album. But everything went wrong when we answererd wrong to the extra bonus question and got 5 minus points. I think we were around the tenth place (there were +15 teams). But next week we're gonna be at least in top 3.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

My original guesses (Actual rank).

1. Arcade Fire - Funeral
2. Radiohead - Kid A
3. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
4. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
5. The Strokes - Is This It
6. The White Stripes - Elephant
7. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
8. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes (13)
9. Radiohead - In Rainbows
10. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (28)
11. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (11)

Looks like the two that broke through are Flaming Lips and Beck. I would have put Flaming Lips at No. 12 in my guesses, so it doesn't surprise me, but Beck is a little bit of a surprise. I guess Animal Collective has a few more haters than I thought.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Wow I gave up on Stories from The City a long time ago but have been inundated with universal accolades for that album since. Better revisit it.

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Aw come on no spoilers please there's a special thread just for that !!
Some people love surprises and Petri had even created that thread ogreat idea Btw but unfortunately ...)
I didn't look at ur post rocky but is it still time to take it down ? Please

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

nicolas
Aw come on no spoilers please there's a special thread just for that !!
Some people love surprises and Petri had even created that thread ogreat idea Btw but unfortunately ...)
I didn't look at ur post rocky but is it still time to take it down ? Please


Nah. It can't possibly be a spoiler when everyone knows what albums remain. Too late, anyway.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Rocky Raccoon
nicolas
Aw come on no spoilers please there's a special thread just for that !!
Some people love surprises and Petri had even created that thread ogreat idea Btw but unfortunately ...)
I didn't look at ur post rocky but is it still time to take it down ? Please


Nah. It can't possibly be a spoiler when everyone knows what albums remain. Too late, anyway.


Um I had no idea which albums were left.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Little surprised at the high placement of Vampire Weekend. I mean, it's okay. Nice, catchy indie pop. Just notably un-special.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Rocky R, what seems obvious to you is not to anybody
As a casual follower of this, I hadn't paid attention enoigh to know which albums were remaining that's all. Not a big deal anyway but you can't tell what everybody knows can you ?

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Can someone explain to me why Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/Love Below are so popular on these forums when the, in my opinion, clearly superior ATLiens and Aquemini didn't even make it into the final 100 in the '90s? They're so much more imaginative albums and they're actually solid throughout, despite being rather lengthy as well, rather than inundated with filler material. Sure, the latter two have hits like Ms. Jackson, Hey Ya and B.O.B., but overall it seems to me the early two should easily be as acclaimed--if not more so.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Rocky Raccoon
I guess Animal Collective has a few more haters than I thought.

The rather weak position of Merriweather Post Pavillon wasn't that big surprise for me (I thought it would be in top 25 though).
AC seems to be the most hated band of the forum after Coldplay (when we are talking about bands with acclaim - not Nickelback or Black Eyed Peas stuff).
The biggest reason was still that many of the biggest fans of that album (Mindrocker, SR) didn't participate in final.

Now let's move to top 10. Two fantastic albums that not everybody (if anybody at all) thought would be in top 10 (well maybe not that big surprises but still) Here they are.

# 10

Beck - Sea Change

Score: 1841 points

Biggest fans:
Harold Wexler #1, Chris K. #2, Romain #3, Schwah #3, John #4, Jonah #6, VanillaFire1000 #8, Henrik #9

Haters:
Tim E #53/53, Nick #77/82

Voters:
31

Comments:
Beck's accurate attempt to write the most heartbreaking album of all time (a genre in itself) succeeded widely in form (the subtle tone) and content (the real breakup behind). (Honorio)

The first time I played this for a friend, he didn't believe it was Beck. I had to show him the disc case. Beck has rarely stood in place musically, and a recent heartbreak was the impetus for this beautifully sad record. Sea Change is a great title because it washes over you like the tide. No. 13 (Rocky Raccoon)

The Golden Age (10), It's All in Your Mind (11), Seasons Change (11), Lost Cause (11), Lonesome Tears (11), Guess I'm Doing Fine (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2002 poll: 3

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 52

AMF poll of 00's rank: 39







# 9

The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

Score: 1861 points

Biggest fans:
Honorio #1, Rocky Raccoon #2, Petri #3, VanillaFire1000 #5, Henrik #6, BillAdama #7, Romain #10, Nick #10, Henry #10

Haters:
Michel #100, Schwah #68/68

Voters:
34

Comments:
"What is this? / Are you some kind of hypnotist?". Bizarre, spacey, hallucinatory or eccentric are adjectives commonly used to describe The Flaming Lips music, but they knew how to find magic in the common things, to find the wide-eyed child hidden inside the bored adult. "You realize the sun doesn't go down / It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round". (Honorio)

Despite the awful "Do You Realize?", this album was a nice surprise. Well, not that I really enjoyed it, but it is much more likeable than the Soft Bulletin to my ears. (Nassim)

Some bands create their own sonic landscape, exploring its terrain and giving us a unique audio experience. On this album, the Flaming Lips created a whole fucking planet. It’s a planet of beauty, triumph and sadness where humans are becoming emotionally detached (we’re the pink robots), and where robots are the ones who learn to feel. It’s a planet where the sun going down is just an illusion caused by the Earth spinning ‘round. No. 2 (Rocky Raccoon)

One More Robo/Sympathy (10), Do You Realize (10), Ego Tripping At the Gates of Hell (10), Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots (10), Fight Test (11), In the Morning of the Magicians (11.1), It's Summertime (11.1), Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 2 (11.1) (Henry)


Place in the 2002 poll: 2

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 20

AMF poll of 00's rank: 17




Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

I'm so happy to see these two albums on the top 10.
I feel that Sea Change becomes bigger and bigger with time.

Please, for those who love Sea Change, try to listen "l'Histoire de Melody Nelson" by Gainsbourg. Beck has always said he would be inspired by this album an you can hear that easily.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

BillAdama
Little surprised at the high placement of Vampire Weekend. I mean, it's okay. Nice, catchy indie pop. Just notably un-special.


I was totally unimpressed by it. It's not horrible, but I really don't get what's good about it.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

After these two we'll reach the club of +2000 points.

# 8

Radiohead - In Rainbows

Score: 1908 points

Biggest fans:
Gillingham #1, Dan M #2, Slick #5, Schwah #5, Evan #5, Chris K. #6, Henry #8, Romain #8, Petri #9

Haters:
Stephan #93, Miguel #45/46, Zorg #62/65

Voters:
34

Comments:
The ultimate grower album, not too impressive at first listen but revealing more edges, more power, more deepness and more desolation with every new spin. (Honorio)

Sure, it might be Radiohead less groundbreaking album. But sometimes it is great to see a great band playing in their comfort zone to give us what they do best : great pop/rock songs. (Nassim)

Radiohead just doing what they do. Hopefully not, but this might be their last great album. No. 38 (Rocky Raccoon)

Nude (10), Reckoner (10), 15 Step (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2007 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 7

AMF poll of 00's rank: 9







# 7

The White Stripes - Elephant

Score: 1912 points

Biggest fans:
Romain #2, BillAdama #2, Harold Wexler #3, Rocky Raccoon #5, Nick #6, SuperFurry #7, Jonathon #7, Slick #8, Dan M #8, beefsupreme #8, Honorio #10

Haters:
Greg #81/83

Voters:
34

Comments:
Many people used to think that it was impossible to innovate inside a style as rigid as garage rock before The White Stripes came and put the style upside down but fashionable again. And they did it with their minimalistic approach, with reverence to the blues roots but with enough audacity to break the mold and with the unique talents of Jack and Meg White (yes, Meg too). (Honorio)

From hard rock to acoustic folk and pop to dirty blues, Jack's just showing off at this point. A mammoth record as the title suggests. No. 5 (Rocky Raccoon)

Seven Nation Army (10) (Henry)


Place in the 2003 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 5

AMF poll of 00's rank: 10






Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Good for The White Stripes but my favourite album by them continues to be "Get Behind Me Satan".
I really don't know why a so little love for this album.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Rocky Raccoon
Nah. It can't possibly be a spoiler when everyone knows what albums remain.
Well, it actually can. For several people, apparently.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Not much conversation here. However the number of views have grown since I posted former results so I guess it's time to post again (of course it's possible that there are 2-3 people online who refresh the site every five minutes). Well here's for you at least.

This album was big favorite of mine when it was released and I voted for it the best album of it's year then. Somehow the magic of the album have decreased (or at least I don't have the need to listen to the album in it's whole anymore). It's still in the boundaries of my top 100 of decade (and of course in this poll rather high while many of my favorites didn't qualify).
Look's like many still find this to be one of the real top albums of the decade.
So... Is This It? No it's something else.


















# 6

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

Score: 2017 points

Biggest fans:
Evan #1, Jonathon #1, Honorio #3, Harold Wexler #5, Nick #5, Chris K. #5, Jonah #7, Miguel #7, Midaso #7, John #9, Rocky Raccoon #10, BillAdama #10

Haters:
Tim E #51/53, Moonbeam #43/45

Voters:
35

Comments:
If there is an unwritten rule about a logical progression of introducing the arrangements, Wilco decided to ignore it. The first verse of the first song features drums and organ, the second acoustic guitar, the third a weird drum pattern and noises, the fourth shakers and autoharp, the fifth "normal" drumming and guitar and the sixth background noises. And why not? (Honorio)

It's the songs, and don't forget that. People make a big deal about the experimenting and soundscaping, but they're just trappings that embellish the songs rather than detract from them. Jeff Tweedy found the perfect balance here, and that's why the album itself is nearly perfect. No. 10 (Rocky Raccoon)

I Am Trying To Break Your Heart (10), Pot Kettle Back (11), Radio Cure (11), War On War (11), Jesus, Etc. (11), I'm the Man Who Loves You (11), Poor Places (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2002 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 4

AMF poll of 00's rank: 7






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This must be the fastest poll rollout in AM history. Congrats, Petri.

The bulk of these results were predictable after the all-time albums poll, but a few surprises stand out. I would not have expected Queens of the Stone Age (my 13) to crack the top 20. This makes me even more surprised that Rated R, which is just as high-quality but less popular, didn't even crack the top 100.

Beck and Flaming Lips are pretty surprising top 10 selections. I'm always stunned at the love for Sea Change on here (I haven't seen it ranked as highly anywhere else I can remember). That album has always struck me as too intentionally sad to listen to and enjoy, but then again I love albums like Songs of Leonard Cohen and Rock Bottom.

Yoshimi is a pretty cool entry into the top 10, even though that album is always more uneven then I'd like it to be.

I could do without In Rainbows and Elephant in the top 10. Amnesiac and White Blood Cells are both significantly better than those albums.

The worst result so far? Untrue at 61. That album is a landmark in electronic music; it's hard to read a review of any act that doesn't use Untrue as a benchmark. That album does take some time to sink in though, so I understand why some might write it off.

But you guys don't have the same excuse for the low ranking of Xtrmntr. That album blew me away from first listen, and I still haven't heard much that's as extreme in sound yet tight in execution. Kill All Hippies, Swastika Eyes, Accelerator, and Shoot Speed/Kill Light do an amazing job at combining the appeal of rock and electronic music. That album is by far Primal Scream's best.

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Jackson

The bulk of these results were predictable after the all-time albums poll, but a few surprises stand out. I would not have expected Queens of the Stone Age (my 13) to crack the top 20. This makes me even more surprised that Rated R, which is just as high-quality but less popular, didn't even crack the top 100.


I was disappointed too to see Rated R miss the top 10 of 2000, but it came pretty close and the competition was pretty tough for this year so it is understandable.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was my #13, Kamera, War on War and Pot Kettle Back really drag it down for me, but all the other songs are wonderful. Radio Cure is still my favorite but the opener and the 2 closers might be the most impressive ones.

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What do these numbers from Henry mean?

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^

Henry

The numbers are my enjoyability rating for the song.
1 is the best (5.0 on RYM)
6 is very good, but not one of my all time faves (@ 4.2 on RYM)
9 is @ 3.5 on RYM
11 is reasonably enjoyable and @ 3.0 on RYM
11.4 is a balance point where I either find the song acceptable to listen to, or believe that it may be a grower even if I don't yet enjoy it (@ 2.5 on RYM).
11.9 means that I do not care for the song (@1.5 on RYM)
12 or higher means that I likely will not listen to the entire song because I find it to be so annoying (@1.0 on RYM)

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Nassim
Jackson

The bulk of these results were predictable after the all-time albums poll, but a few surprises stand out. I would not have expected Queens of the Stone Age (my 13) to crack the top 20. This makes me even more surprised that Rated R, which is just as high-quality but less popular, didn't even crack the top 100.


I was disappointed too to see Rated R miss the top 10 of 2000, but it came pretty close and the competition was pretty tough for this year so it is understandable.

Yeah the competition was very tough and Rated R got 300 points (when in some years 200 points was enough to get a final spot). GY!BE was #10 of that year and in the final list it was #50.
Still top 20 place for Songs for the Deaf was a bit surprising (in a good way I guess). Maybe the huge number of indie-(pop) among the finalists lead to the final results where rock and hip hop successed quite well (because they were real alternative).
On the other hand all albums left are in someway indiemusic (but still very different to each other).



# 5

LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver

Score: 2072 points

Biggest fans:
Nick #1, Moonbeam #2, Henry #3, SuperFurry #3, Chris #4, Nassim #5, Michel #5, Jonah #5, VanillaFire1000 #7, Harold Wexler #8, BillAdama #9, nicolas #9, Jonathon #9, Chris K. #10

Haters:
None

Voters:
33

Comments:
5 perfect songs and a pretty great one easily make you forget that there are 3 songs you could live without, and well, when a song like Watch the Tapes is the low point on an album, it is a pretty great sign. (Nassim)

I'm in a minority by prefering their debut, but while this one has some amazing tracks, it is also hampered by a couple I don't find good. No. 56 (Rocky Raccoon)

Someone Great (7), All My Friends ( , New York I Love You (11), Time to Get Away (11), North American Scum (11), Get Innocuous (11), Song for my Father (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2007 poll: 2

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 9

AMF poll of 00's rank: 5






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It's hard for me to say how pleased I am to see "Sound of Silver" in the top 5, and the highest 2007 album!

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Being in the indie critical sphere doesn't necessarily make me think of something as 'indie music'.

To me 'indie' has the connotation of stripped down, noisy pop.

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Sound of Silver has to be the most inconsistent album in the top 5 for me. Some of the songs are among the best of the decade (among the best of all time, even), but others I could do without. It's a difficult one to place for that reason.

The same goes for Illinois, which I think is a bit too long. Its high points are incredible, though.

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In my mind, indie really isn't a genre any more than "classic rock" is a genre.

Fleet Foxes, LCD Soundsystem, The Black Keys, and Animal Collective are all "indie", but those four bands sound absolutely nothing alike.

Just in the same way that The Eagles, Black Sabbath, The Beatles, and Pink Floyd are all "classic rock" yet sound nothing alike.

When people say that indie bands get all the attention for this decade on this forum, I think what they really mean is "non-mainstream rock-esque music" gets all the attention.

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The highest ranked album without a single #1 vote.
# 4

The Strokes - Is This It

Score: 2172 points

Biggest fans:
Evan #2, Nick #2, Jonah #2, Jonathon #4, Honorio #5,Tim E #6, Midaso #6, beefsupreme #7, Brad #7, Chris K. #7, Chris #7, nicolas #8, SuperFurry #8, Jackson #9, Rocky Raccoon #9, Moonbeam #9, Slick #10

Haters:
Gillingham #29/31

Voters:
35

Comments:
The cornerstone of the post-punk revival of the 00s, a band with the influences on the sleeve, basically the NYC scene from Velvet Underground to Television. But they were not merely a revival band, they invigorated the rock scene creating a fresh a vital sound with pop melodies sung with distorted vocals, sharp guitars and the ease and insolence of the twenty-something. (Honorio)

The album that helped save us from the nu-metal sludge that was threatening to take over the radio in the aftermath of the alternative revolution ushered in by Nevermind. Thank God! Their New York artistic pretentions and rough-edges rock approach made it sound like the Replacements and Velvet Underground had given birth and raised a child named the Strokes. No. 9 (Rocky Raccoon)

Modern Age (10), Hard to Explain (11), Someday (), Is This It (11.6) (Henry)


Place in the 2001 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 2

AMF poll of 00's rank: 4






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Nick


When people say that indie bands get all the attention for this decade on this forum, I think what they really mean is "non-mainstream rock-esque music" gets all the attention.


Well, that's correct but not exactly true. Neoclassic rock does not get all the attention (except the very best like Fleet Foxes or Hold Steady). And there are tons of post punk influenced bands with strange lyrics and abstract art covers and twisted production in this selection. But at least White Stripes (far from being the best neoclassic band IMO) and the Strokes are in the top 10 along with indie-era half assed Wilco albums.
Wilco is a great example of this forum's tendancy : there is Yankee and Ghost but nothing after that (no Sky Blue Sky)
Guess who's posting

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people
Nick


When people say that indie bands get all the attention for this decade on this forum, I think what they really mean is "non-mainstream rock-esque music" gets all the attention.


Well, that's correct but not exactly true. Neoclassic rock does not get all the attention (except the very best like Fleet Foxes or Hold Steady). And there are tons of post punk influenced bands with strange lyrics and abstract art covers and twisted production in this selection. But at least White Stripes (far from being the best neoclassic band IMO) and the Strokes are in the top 10 along with indie-era half assed Wilco albums.
Wilco is a great example of this forum's tendancy : there is Yankee and Ghost but nothing after that (no Sky Blue Sky)
Guess who's posting

I guess it's pretty easy to say that people is nicolas.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

BTW thanks for running this poll Petri

I'm happy about the Strokes position. Very good album. Simple, straight to the point album. Impressing debut.

Fleet Foxes out of the top 10 is a little disappointment but there are anti folk people here (and I don't blame them).

But Flaming Lips is a total mystery. Well it's not a bad record, but in the top 10 ?
As I'm lazy I'll quote a great RYM review (courtesy of musictoad who is an AMer too)

"Hey, you know those albums you buy because

a) the cover art looks cool
b) it's different and exciting to spontaneously try something new
c) it gets a lot of praise
d) why not?

And you know those albums that are disappointing because

a) the quirkiness loses effect over time
b) concept albums about a little girl fighting big robots, although cute, grow old
c) you realize that with few exceptions, most of the songs follow the same template and ultimately just float along and don't go anywhere and by the 8th track just before the monster hit single you're itching to turn the blasted thing off and put on something else, and then the monster hit single ends and the album goes back into lulling you to sleep
d) who knows?

(...) Ok, maybe I'm being a little harsh. It's a pretty decent album if I get past the tired quirkiness and listen to the great melodies and soundscapes."


and he gives a 3 star rating just like I did. Thanks musictoad I couldn't agree more

and I don't like the monster hit single, but "The Morning of The Magicians" is a fantastic song

PS : Sea Change is growing on me too.

And no Black Keys album in the final round really disappoints me. they're so much better than the White Stripes (i'm listening to their new album and it really kicks ass especially the second half)

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nicolas
Sea Change is growing on me too.


Sea Change has been growing for me since I saw Beck perform many songs from the Album at the Bridge School Benefit Concert last October.

If any of you can make it next year to the next Bridge School Benefit concert (in Mountain View, CA - near San Francisco), I would really enjoy meeting you during, before or after the concert.

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Wow. I never would have thought that Chocolate Starfish and The Hot Dog Colored Water would end up in the top three.

Whoops, wrong thread. Sorry!



Seriously, though, I couldn't be more thrilled to see Sea Change in the top 10.

Great - and stunningly fast - job with the presentation, Petri!

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Thanks guys for politeness.
I remember when Henrik presented the best songs and albums of 90's (in Janaury 2008). The whole show lasted only one weekend. That was fast pace and I liked a lot.

# 3

Radiohead - Kid A

Score: 2310 points

Biggest fans:
BillAdama #1, Chris K. #1 , Petri #2, Honorio #2, Jonathon #2, Nick #3, Gillingham #3, Jackson #4, Brad #4, Evan #4, Chris #5, Midaso #5, sonofsamiam #5, Harold Wexler #6, Henry #6, Henrik #8

Haters:
Nassim #94, Miguel #44/46

Voters:
35

Comments:
Seeing legions of bands mimicking every detail of its previous production (there's no need to name one, is there?), Radiohead were forced to find a completely new direction. And they found it in avant-garde, electronica and IDM, depicting a world ever weirder, stranger and more alienated than the world they showed in "OK Computer". And that’s saying a lot. (Honorio)

It is brilliant, even if I find it the tiniest bit overrated. The only slight qualm I have is that I'm not always in the mood to listen to it. But when I am in the right mood, I can get completely lost in its soundscapes. No. 11 (Rocky Raccoon)

Everything in its Right Place (10), Morning Bell (11), Motion Picture Soundtrack (11), The National Anthem (11), Optimistic (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2000 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 3

AMF poll of 00's rank: 1






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Wow, looks like I messed up my votes...
My 94 should be Hail to the Thief, Kid A should be my #36

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Wow, that was a surprise! And if Illinois can beat Kid A it could just as well go all the way!

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Ah yes that was Illinois. i was wondering who was left

but Arcade F looks untouchable. I'd be very pleased too if it was Sufjan S cause I love that album

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Nassim
Wow, looks like I messed up my votes...
My 94 should be Hail to the Thief, Kid A should be my #36

Your very low placement of Kid A was surprise to me (I almost ask you is that right but then I thought you have had enough for that album). Luckily if Kid A would have been your #36 the placement of album had been still #3 (Hail to Thief would have dropped from #42 to #46). Score of Kid A would be 2329 points.

Do you want I pronounce the winner?

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I mean, there's a difference between the scratchy lo-fi like Elliot Smith and more crafted and produced alternative rock like The National, but these are both lumped into the general category 'indie'.

Great to see Illinois at #2.

Is This It, out of all the albums, is the one where there's the biggest drop between the amount I liked it when it came out and the amount I like it now. It's a fun album with some good songs but the more you listen to them, the less they stand out.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Petri
Do you want I pronounce the winner?


Yeah, bring it on!

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# 2

Sufjan Stevens - Illinois

Score: 2338 points

Biggest fans:
Miguel #1, Henry #1, Henrik #1, Michel #1, nicolas #2, Midaso #4, Harold Wexler #4, Honorio #4, Dan M #5, Nassim #6, BillAdama #6, John #6, VanillaFire1000 #6, Gillingham #7, Moonbeam #7, sonofsamiam #8, Jonathon #8, Stephan #9, Nick #9, Jonah #9

Haters:
Beefsupreme #74/76

Voters:
35

Comments:
Ambition is a word that falls short to describe Sufjan's attitude. His concept albums about the USA States displayed amazingly well-documented lyrics keeping a confessional tone and a meticulously detailed and rich instrumentation keeping a lo-fi feeling. Seven lives are not enough for Sufjan to complete his set of States albums maintaining the level of "Illinoise". (Honorio)

I regard the 6 albums I have put on top of my list as as close to perfection as you can get, Illinoise is the longuest of them (and of my top 20 albums of all time), achieving such a constant level of awesomeness through more than an hour is an incredible feat. Forget the concept, the 50-state bullshit and listen to how those songs are able to deeply convey all kind of feelings, from sheer joy to deep sadness. Favorite Song : the Predatory Wasp of the Palisades is Out to Get Us (Nassim)

It's great, and although I don't rank it as highly as the critics or as highly as this forum, I can certainly understand why it's so highly thought of. For me, as great as it is, it's not quite great enough to sustain its over-long running time. No. 39 (Rocky Raccoon)

Chicago (5), John Wayne Gacy, Jr. ( , Casimir Pulaski Day (11), Come On! Feel the Illinoise! (11), Jacksonville (11), The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out To Get Us! (11), They Are Night Zombies!! (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2005 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 6

AMF poll of 00's rank: 3







# 1

Arcade Fire - Funeral

Score: 2597 points

Biggest fans:
VanillaFire1000 #1, John #1, Petri #1, Slick #1, Dan M #1
Nassim #2, Midaso #2, Schwah #2, Henry #2, Harold Wexler #2, Chris K. #3, Jonathon #3, Jonah #4, Romain #4, Nick #4, Evan #6, Miguel #6, Brad #6, Zorg #6, Chris #6, Gillingham #6, Jackson #8, Moonbeam #8, Stephan #10, nicolas #10

Haters:
None

Voters:
35

Comments:
The album that brought back the power, the heart, the boldness and the emotion to these ice-cold times, conquering first the indie audiences and then the world. (Honorio)

Favorite Song : Wake Up (Nassim)

Grandiosly emotional in every way, from the dramatic music to the sensitive subject matter. It's hard to believe this is a debut, because it's the sound of a band fully formed. No. 22 (Rocky Raccoon)

Aside from the holy trinity of "Neighborhood 1", "Wake Up" and "Rebellion (Lies)", there are seven other amazing songs on this album, the pick of which in my opinion is "In The Backseat", where Regine is given full rein to just FLY. And fly she does, it really captures the feel of the whole album, coming to terms with losing loved ones. (Zorg)

Rebellion (Lies) (9), Wake Up (10), In the Back Seat (11), Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) (11), Une Annee Sans Lumiere (11), Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels) (11) (Henry)


Place in the 2004 poll: 1

Acclaimed Music 2000s rank: 1

AMF poll of 00's rank: 2






Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Congrats, Petri, for an excellent (and quick!) thread. Sadly I (almost) missed the results live because (as always) of too much work. But anyway here I am, just in time for the final results!!
Superb presentation, Petri. Sadly the albums covers are slightly blurred. I suppose you are using the RYM covers. But the problem with RYM it is that the only way to get the focused cover arts are if you use the codes on the page but in this case the image is small. That's why when I did the 60s poll I clicked on “View cover art”, then downloaded the cover art to my computer, then I uploaded it on Photobucket and finally linked it to the forum. Anyway I don't want to be picky, you did a wonderful job.
The comments were great, and especially I wanted to point (like others did it before) the effort of Rocky Raccoon on commenting every album.
About the results congratulations again for a wonderful list. I'm particularly glad to see the good rating of "Yoshimi", getting into a well deserved Top 10. Despite the attacks of our beloved French friends I think it's a great album especially for its originality and, yes, positivity. I expected "Kid A" as the final winner (by the way, Miguel, you put the complete Radiohead discography at the bottom of your list, am I right?). But I can't complain about the Top 10 in fact, every album was in my Top 20 except "Sound of Silver".

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Not just a win, a blowout! I don't think anyone will have a problem with Funeral at #1, and that might be the difference between it and the other contenders: no haters.

Great and quick show, Petri! Looking forward to the songs.

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Wow, 25 (out of 35) voters had Funeral on their Top 10. I was one of the other 10 (although it was my #12)

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Thanks for the show, Petri! It may not be all-time fastest show but I think it is the first presentation without a single error!

In fact, all the polls we've had through the years have been great. They've never got out of hand of the person who've run them, which is quite a feat. Especially the decade polls which run through a whole year require a lot of dedication. Thanks again!

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Thanks a lot Petri!

I'm afraid I was the voter with the least number of albums ranked. Well, I guess in some way that makes me lucky.

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Thanks again guys. The show of songs will start at earliest in sunday but probably I don't have time before monday.

Honorio

Superb presentation, Petri. Sadly the albums covers are slightly blurred. I suppose you are using the RYM covers. But the problem with RYM it is that the only way to get the focused cover arts are if you use the codes on the page but in this case the image is small. That's why when I did the 60s poll I clicked on “View cover art”, then downloaded the cover art to my computer, then I uploaded it on Photobucket and finally linked it to the forum. Anyway I don't want to be picky, you did a wonderful job.
(by the way, Miguel, you put the complete Radiohead discography at the bottom of your list, am I right?).

The quality of pictures from RYM was disappointment to me as well (I took the pictures that were available from AM (top 5 of the years) and they look much better). I still think I stick with the bad picture quality in songs poll too because I have gotten all single covers already (taken from RYM).

And yes looks like we found AMer who hate Radiohead more than Stephan or Listyguy. By the way Miguel if you read this please answer to my request about your songs list. I emailed you couble of weeks ago.

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Hooray for Sound of Silver in the top 5 and Illinois beating out Kid A!

Thanks, Petri, for this outstanding presentation!

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Loving the results (mostly because Radiohead isn't dominating the list). Great work Petri.
It seems like just yesterday the 60's poll ended (wait...It did end yesterday). I'm only kidding, Honorio.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

Petri
And yes looks like we found AMer who hate Radiohead more than Stephan or Listyguy.
It's more indifference than hatred, see also my song comment for Everything in Its Right Place.

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Listyguy
It seems like just yesterday the 60's poll ended (wait...It did end yesterday). I'm only kidding, Honorio.

No offense at all, Listyguy, of course.
In fact you're right, I began to post the results on Dec 12, 2010 and I ended on June 9, 2011 (I just checked). By the way I realized that some of the pictures on the 1900-1949 poll dissappeared (despite I tried to use sources like Last.fm). I just don't want to know how many You Tube links disappeared too.
Returning to the six months of delay I now it was way too much but apart of the idiomatic problem (translating my thoughs from Spanish to English to paper is much more time consuming than writing directly in English but this is not really an excuse, in fact all the others before and after me - Nassim (70s), Stephan (80s), Henrik (90s) and Petri (00s) - shared the same problem and they were much quicker!) my problem is my lack of spare time. In fact I'm sad to say that my participation in the forum for the next sixth months (that are going to be extremely busy) is going to be limited to the fantastic AM Foreign World Cup, I got no time for anything else (sorry nicolas, I could send you my unedited lists for the previous 90s poll but it probably it's not fair).
I seize the opportunity to encourage the AMers to vote on the Stephan World Cupo poll, the last three weeks I missed many of the voters that participated on the first three (the first week of Brazil we reached 16 voters), like Henrik, Andre, Romain, sonofsamiam, Kinoftonga, Listyguy, Seanywack, Henry or Moonbeam. Come on, maybe East Asia is not the most interesting but very soon we will reach to the best part (that in my opinion is 1.2, Western Africa, great songs in there).
And of course, I got no time to participate but there are many other great games going on that I would like to encourage participation too, the 2011 Albums and Songs Polls, the Moderately Acclaimed Poll or the Unacclaimed.

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Honorio, you certainly don't have to make any excuses. Your presentation was filled with so much interesting info that it was always worth the wait.

I love the World Cup too, and I apologize Stephan that I haven't voted in the last weeks. I have spent all the time on adding new critics' lists to my spreadsheets, I hope you don't blame me for that.

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Petri, thanks for hosting the 00s poll. Great show!

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Congratulations to Arcade Fire and Petri, both came out on top of this poll. Nice work, and now it's on to the '90s. Spoiler alert: Radiohead is going to win. Sorry if I ruined the surprise, everyone.

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I'm a bit busy so I will start the songs results thread at earliest in about 6-7 hours.
I've added comments from Honorio, Nassim, Moonbeam, Depeche Mode, Evan and Stephan.
Please inform if someone else commented the songs.

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

I totally missed that this started and I got to view it all in one shot! The list looks great!

Re: Forum Poll: The Best Albums of the 00s Results

I only ranked 45, but the correlation between my placements and the final list is only a whoppingly insignificant 0.015.

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Thanks again Petri sorry for the confusion.

I didn't make comments so I chose 3 that best reflect my thoughts:

Saturdays=Youth:

Petri
The '80s ended, let's not try to bring them back. No. 87 (Rocky Raccoon)


BillAdama
Why do I like Sleater-Kinney so much? Because they KICK ASS.


Vampire Weekend
Moonbeam
I was totally unimpressed by it. It's not horrible, but I really don't get what's good about it.



I'm the highest hater, what do I win? Srsly though, Sufjan Stevens. He's just too indie & too precious for me, its like nails on chalkboard. If I patted him on the back hard enough I'm afraid he might turn into dust!!

boring, boringer, AMF

good job though, Pet.

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Moonbeam
I only ranked 45, but the correlation between my placements and the final list is only a whoppingly insignificant 0.015.


I noticed that I rated the following albums much lower than other voters:

The White Stripes / Elephant
The Avalanches / Since I Left You
Queens of the Stone Age / Songs for the Deaf
The White Stripes / White Blood Cells
Sleater-Kinney / One Beat
Antony and the Johnsons / I Am a Bird Now

My guess is that the least likely to win me over is the S-K album, and the most likely to grow on me is the QSA album.

I would appreciate it if those who love one or more of these albums will point me to the songs that they consider best with (when possible) an explanation regarding why these songs are so great.

No urgent need to explain your love of Seven Nation Army as I already enjoy this song.

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Henry


I noticed that I rated the following albums much lower than other voters:

Queens of the Stone Age / Songs for the Deaf

I would appreciate it if those who love one or more of these albums will point me to the songs that they consider best with (when possible) an explanation regarding why these songs are so great.


My favorite song of the decade is A Song for the Deaf : I have a huge bias toward songs in 3/4 time signature, makes me wanna waltz, but this particular one is more like an unstoppable stomper, waves crushing on you again and again, and no violence or scream is needed for that. The drum part is impressive and strongly increases this impression of the sea wrath falling upon you. It is not a gentle song at all, it's dark, but most of all it's intense (no joke on double rainbow please).

And it leads to another peak of the album, the much calmer Mosquito Song, a strange ending for such a dense and insistent album. I love how it showcases some competition between various instruments to be the softer one.

Talking about insistent, the apex of any Queens of the Stone Age live show, A Song for the Dead, is another key track. The intro and outro are here for the pogo, but what is in between is an amazing road trip (the main theme of the album) on the strange drugged chamanic highways of the mojave desert. The vocal performance of Mark Lanegan is almost as great as the one on "In The Fade" on Rated R (might be the 2nd best song of the whole Queens of the Stone Age discography) and, like in most of the album, Dave Grohl is at his best.

Lanegan and Grohl have been major actors in the success of this album, but the bassist Nick Oliveri was the crazyness factor in QOTSA first 3 albums, and you can clearly hear that in Six Shooters and You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar but I Feel Like a Millionaire. Those are mainly shots of adrenaline, but great ones.

Last but not least, the 2 main singles, No One Knows and Go With the Flow are mainly just great rock songs with a touch of the californian touch of QOTSA (not the Pacific Ocean california but the desert one). Go With the Flow is a bit more frantic (see the piano part), and the constant variations on the guitar are the magic touch.
And No One Knows, well, you know it I guess ! For me it is all about the drum and the bass, but I guess it is the main riff that made its success.




For Since I Left You, it works much better as a whole mix than on a song by song basis, but if you need to pick a song, the 2 that made our top 100 are clearly the one to choose.

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I'm gonna tackle The White Stripes - White Blood Cells. The first thing I noticed about it is its simplicity. There is almost nothing to the songs - it really is simply drums, guitar and voice, and that raw sound really appeals to me. It's a pretty aggressive album - take the sneer with which Jack White says "Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground" in the first song, and it does that Pixies thing of going loud-soft-loud-soft which I find quite exhilarating. It really is a loud album at times.

But this only serves to make the good parts better - those are the songs which slow down a little bit, a bit more thoughtful, a bit more poignant. We're Going To Be Friends, and the last three songs in particular. Add to that mix the sheer fun of songs like Fell In Love With A Girl, Hotel Yorba etc, and you find that the album really packs a lot of punch in 40 minutes.

Oh and I forgot to mention Jack White's guitaring. While I'm not one to enjoy guitar solos, because they always feel like forced posturing, Jack White is another matter. His guitar solos sound like I'M GOING TO SLAY YOUR CHILDREN aggressive, and it sure is impressive.

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Honorio
I seize the opportunity to encourage the AMers to vote on the Stephan World Cupo poll, the last three weeks I missed many of the voters that participated on the first three (the first week of Brazil we reached 16 voters), like Henrik, Andre, Romain, sonofsamiam, Kinoftonga, Listyguy, Seanywack, Henry or Moonbeam. Come on, maybe East Asia is not the most interesting but very soon we will reach to the best part (that in my opinion is 1.2, Western Africa, great songs in there).
And of course, I got no time to participate but there are many other great games going on that I would like to encourage participation too, the 2011 Albums and Songs Polls, the Moderately Acclaimed Poll or the Unacclaimed.


Honorio, Petri, Stephan, other forum participants: It was already hard for me to plan free quality time on music listening and rating, but due to a recent change at work I can no longer actively participate in any polls. My initiative to rate songs whilest going back in time, is not going fast either (in a snail tempo I got to 1992 so far, see my documentation at RYM). It's sad but true, but I am already happy if I manage to listen to some new music material once in a while. The interest in music will always be there and remain strong, but like with all hobbies, the time spent comes in waves.