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Great Stuff...

as always, sir. :) AM visitors much appreciate your efforts.

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Excellent !
Merci, thank you, you are the best.

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Animal Collective in the top 100 : let the heated discussion start !

Thanks a lot Henrik once more !

P.S : some awesome changes for non 00s songs too : some pre 60s songs gain a huge boost, and Fugazi's Waiting Room jumping from 640 to 328 !

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I'm a little sad to see Nirvana reputation as "That band who sang Smells Like Teen Spirit" being solidified with Heart-Shaped Box taking a HUGE drop, and "All Apologies" and "Come As You Are" also taking hits. Imo, "About a Girl", "Come As You Are", "Lithium", "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are all top 500 worthy songs.

I'm glad to see Wilco finally get a song with a decent ranking, which gave the band a ten spot push on the all time board.

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Great work Henrik!

Crazy in Love as the 47th and Umbrella as the 175th songs of all time seem a little out of place. Have critics become too mainstream?

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New artists in top 100: Arcade Fire, Animal Collective, Flaming Lips, Portishead, Daft Punk, Smashing Pumpkins.

Radiohead enters top 5.

New best song of the 1980s: Love Will Tear Us Apart.

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I look forward to giving the updated songs list the attention it deserves. Great job as always, Henrik!

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Kevin
New artists in top 100: Arcade Fire, Animal Collective, Flaming Lips, Portishead, Daft Punk, Smashing Pumpkins.

Radiohead enters top 5.

New best song of the 1980s: Love Will Tear Us Apart.


It'd be interesting to list what bands had a 10 spot or more ranking change.

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From first glance, a few things I am happy to see:

Celine Dion has been booted from the top 3000.
Smashing Pumpkins' "Tonight, Tonight" is added
Two Arcade Fire songs in the Top 500.
Six (!) more Radiohead songs in the Top 3000 (including "Just," "Reckoner," "Let Down," and "Everything in Its Right Place"
Blink-182's "All the Small Things" takes a huge hit.
Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lady" & "Forever Young" added
Bruce Springsteen's "I'm on Fire" and "Atlantic City" added
U2's "Moment of Surrender" didn't make the list, and "Bad" did
Sufjan Stevens' "Chicago" rightfully now his most acclaimed song (and in the top 1000)
Stevie Wonder's "Sir Duke" added
Terry Jacks' "Seasons in the Sun" added
The Zombies' "Time of the Season" added
The Cardigans' "Lovefool" added
George Michael's "Fastlove" added
M.I.A.'s "Paper Planes" at an impressive #32
Sisqo's "Thong Song" drops off list
Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" in top 1000
Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" added
The Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" passes "Happiness Is a Warm Gun" as top song from White Album.
Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On" rises from #19 to #13.
Prince's "Batdance" out of top 3000 (love Prince, but not one of his best songs)
Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" rises from #68 to #51
Belle & Sebastian went from 0 to 4 songs in top 3000
Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit" now in top 100
Ting Tings' two great songs now in top 3000
Eminem's "Lose Yourself" is now his top song
The White Stripes' "Seven Nation Army" in top 100
David Bowie's "Space Oddity" in top 100
The Beatles' "Yesterday" in top 100
The Temptations' "My Girl" is in top 100
Only 13 spots separate Oasis' "Live Forever" and "Wonderwall"
The Beatles' "In My Life" ranked higher than "Help!"
Bob Dylan's "Every Grain of Sand" moves bottom up to middle region of top 3000
Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah" now in top 1000 (although it surprises me that it was only at #2095 last time!)
Big gain for Bob Marley's "Three Little Birds"
Big gain for Donovan's "Sunshine Superman"
Big gain for George Michael's "Freedom '90"
Big gain for The Rolling Stones' "Ruby Tuesday"
Big gain for Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams"
Big gain for Neil Young's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart"
Big gain for War's "Low Rider"
Coldplay's "The Scientist" in top 1000, and "Viva la Vida" almost in top 1000
Hall & Oates' "She's Gone" in top 1000
CSN's "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" in top 1000
Bob Dylan's "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" getting close to top 1000
Gain for Queen & David Bowie's "Under Pressure"
The Strokes' "Last Nite" in top 200
The Righteous Brothers' "Unchained Melody" at #522
Tommy James' "Crimson and Clover" at #610
Sigur Ros' "Svefn-g-englar" rises
Johnny Cash's "Hurt" rises
Lennon's "Jealous Guy" rises
The Turtles' "Happy Together" rises
Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" rises
Modest Mouse's "Float On" in top 500
Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky" rises
Bob Dylan's "Just Like a Woman" in top 500
The Who's "Baba O'Riley" in top 500
Stealers Wheel's "Stuck in the Middle with You" rises
The Buggles' "Video Killed the Radio Star" rises
Bobby Fuller Four's "I Fought the Law" in top 500
Kelis' "Milkshake" drops out of top 500
Bill Withers' "Lean on Me" in top 1000
Sonic Youth's "Teen Age Riot" in top 200
Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird" in top 250
U2's "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in top 200
Avril Lavigne's "Complicated" drops off top 3000
Britney Spears' "Oops!...I Did It Again" drops off top 3000
NSYNC's "Bye Bye Bye" drops off top 3000
Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror" in top 3000
Bee Gees' "How Deep Is Your Love" in top 3000
Feist's "Mushaboom" in top 3000
Kanye West's "Love Lockdown" and "Flashing Lights" in top 3000
The Killers' "Human" in top 3000
Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain" in top 3000
Antony & The Johnsons' "Cripple & The Starfish" in top 3000
Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train" in top 3000
Frank Sinatra's "It Was a Very Good Year" in top 3000
Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" added to top 3000
The Killers' "All These Things That I've Done" in top 3000
Estelle's "American Boy" in top 1000
Bat for Lashes' "Daniel" at #589

Unhappy to see:
Velvet Underground's "Heroin" passes "I'm Waiting for the Man" as their top song
U2's "One" fall out of top 100
The Beatles' "Hey Jude" drops
Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" drops out of top 10
Missy Elliott's "Get Ur Freak On" continues to rise
Bee Gees' "Stayin' Alive" drops out of top 100
Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the U.K." continues to rise
Red Hot Chili Peppers' "By the Way" and "Scar Tissue" drop out of top 3000
Beyonce's "Crazy in Love" in the top 100
Roy Orbison's "It's Over" drops out of top 3000
Still no sign of Simon & Garfunkel's "Only Living Boy in New York"
Still no sign of Manfred Mann's "Blinded by the Light"
Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone" in top 500
Paul McCartney & Wings' "Band on the Run" falls out of top 3000
The Beatles' "Dear Prudence" and "Hello Goodbye" out of top 3000
Sweet's "Ballroom Blitz" out of top 3000
Lennon's "I Found Out" out of top 3000
Mark Morrison's "Return of the Mack" out of top 3000
Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler" out of top 3000
The Young Rascals' "People Got to Be Free" out of top 3000
Wham/George Michael's "Careless Whisper" out of top 3000
Lily Allen's "LDN" out of top 3000
Weezer's "Island in the Sun" out of top 3000
Moby's "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" out of top 3000
4 Seasons' "Sherry" out of top 3000
Oasis' "Whatever" out of top 3000
James Taylor's "You've Got a Friend" out of top 3000
Keane's "Everybody's Changing" out of top 3000
U2's "Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of" drops off top 3000
Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "When I Come Around" drop off top 3000
Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" drops off top 3000
Regina Spektor's "Fidelity" drops off top 3000
Supertramp's "Logical Song" drops off top 3000
Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" drops off top 3000
Queen's "Killer Queen" drops off top 3000
A Flock of Seagulls' "I Ran" drops off top 3000
Cake's "The Distance" drops off top 3000
Pet Shop Boys' "Opportunities" drops off top 3000
The Monkees' "Daydream Believer" drops off top 3000
Edgar Winter's "Free Ride" drops off top 3000
Michael Jackson's "Smooth Criminal" drops off top 3000
Rihanna's "SOS" in top 3000

Surprised to see:
Spice Girls' "Wannabe" rises
MGMT's "Kids" outranks "Time to Pretend"
Radiohead's "Creep" is only 12 spots ahead of "Paranoid Android"
Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" in top 100
Jimi Hendrix's version of "Star Spangled Banner" jumps to #1131
The Ronettes' "Be My Baby" in top 10
Black Eyed Peas' "Where Is the Love" drops off top 3000
Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen" out of top 3000
3 Dog Night's "Joy to the World" out of top 3000
Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry Be Happy" out of top 3000
Louis Armstrong's "Hello, Dolly!" out of top 3000
Nat King Cole's "Christmas Song" drop off top 3000
Tom Cochrane's "Life Is a Highway" drop off top 3000
Arcade Fire's "Neighbourhood #2" drops off top 3000
Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" drop off top 3000
Stevie Wonder's "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours" drops off top 3000
Randy Newman's "Short People" in top 3000
Bjork's "Hyper-Ballad" (1995) enters the top 3000 at #682, and becomes her highest-ranked song.
Tom Waits' "Jockey Full of Bourbon" enters the top 3000 at #1068, and becomes his highest-ranked song.

Some interesting observations:
OutKast's "Hey Ya!" is now the top song by a hip-hop artist.
Jimi Hendrix is now in the top 10 artists, bumping Elvis down to #11.
Brian Eno's "Cindy Tells Me" is now his highest-ranked song.
Primal Scream's "Loaded" is now their top song.
Daft Punk's "One More Time" is now their top song.
Grateful Dead's "Dark Star" is now their top song.
Jesus and Mary Chain's "Just Like Honey" is now their top song.
Aerosmith's "Walk This Way" is still their top song at #386, but "Dream On" isn't far behind at #387.
Weezer's "Say It Ain't So" is now their top song.
Sonny Rollins' lone top 3000 song "St. Thomas" has dropped off the list.
The Streets' "Weak Become Heroes" is now their top song.
Jackson Browne's "Late for the Sky" is now his top song.
Wire's "Outdoor Miner" is now their top song.
Suede's "The Drowners" is now their top song.

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Thanks Henrik! It’s amazing that year after year there’s a generous music lover somewhere in Sweden who spends days, weeks, months working hard to provide a site update. As usual, this update will make lots of people very happy. For people who care about good music (from the people who make comments on your forum to others who keep a watchful eye on your site) the annual update has become an event. The time and effort you put into it is greatly appreciated.

I have a few comments to make…

I’m probably the only one who feels this way, but I really like the look of the top 5 songs from the 2000s:

1. OutKast – Hey Ya!
2. M.I.A. – Paper Planes
3. Gnarls Barkley – Crazy
4. Beyoncé – Crazy in Love
5. Missy Elliott – Get Ur Freak On

For me, one of the best things about the first decade of the 21st century was that incredibly catchy and clever hip-hop, contemporary R&B and neo-soul songs like these often ruled both the charts and critics’ lists. Looking at this top 5, it’s kinda refreshing that in a decade ruled by indie none of the songs were aimed at white indie kids who like to go to indie gigs to listen to sweaty indie bands, and I like it that they are the kind of songs that would make rock purists pull their noses up as if they are smelling something really nasty. That said, I think it is very unlikely that the top 5 will be the same come the next update.

Yippee! for these new entries:

1068. Tom Waits – Jockey Full of Bourbon
1158. Talking Heads – Born Under Punches
1631. Stevie Wonder – Sir Duke

Things that surprised me a little:

- Jimi Hendrix’s All Along the Watchtower and U2’s One saying bye-bye to the top 100.

- Donna Summer’s I Feel Love jumping 51 places to enter the top 100 at #97.

- Nirvana’s Heart-Shaped Box falling 239 places to #513

Things that suck about the new update:

- Smokey Robinson & The Miracles’ The Tears of a Clown falling 115 places to #451.

- Suzanne Vega’s Luka dropping 330 places to #937.

- LL Cool J’s Mama Said Knock You Out plummeting 429 places to #953.

- Leadbelly’s Goodnight Irene and Chet Baker’s My Funny Valentine falling out of the top 1000.

- Elliott Smith’s Waltz #2 still outside the top 1000.

- Dave Brubeck Quartet’s Take Five down 237 places, Velvet Underground’s Sunday Morning down 304 places, Supergrass’ Alright down 405 places, Nat King Cole’s Mona Lisa down 706 places, Macy Gray’s I Try down 1058 places.

- Sufjan Stevens’ John Wayne Gacy, Jr. at… huh?... #2296 (!). Well, I guess the fact that it was never released as a single harmed its ranking.

- Not enough chansons (and other non-anglophone songs for that matter).

Things I like about the new update:

- The Ronettes’ Be My Baby in the top 10.

- The Beatles’ A Day in the Life (#16), Michael Jackson’s Billie Jean (#24), Prince’s When Doves Cry (#38), The Beach Boys’ God Only Knows (#43) and David Bowie’s ”Heroes” (#48) all continuing to climb up the list. All of these songs have been popular in forum polls and if a worldwide critics poll were to be held right now these songs would likely be placed higher.

- Best result: Billie Holiday’s Strange Fruit jumping 44 places to enter the top 100 at #70. I hope it will keep going up.

- Sam Cooke’s A Change Is Gonna Come up 21 spots to #74.

- Radiohead’s Paranoid Android jumping 144 places to #161.

- Portishead’s Glory Box leaping 1278 places to #561.

- ABBA’s The Winner Takes It All up 576 places to #756.

- Paul Simon’s Graceland up 229 places to #774.

- Great pre-60s tunes that have entered the top 1000: Jacques Brel’s Ne me quitte pas up 644 places, Bessie Smith’s St. Louis Blues up 462 places, Robert Johnson’s Love in Vain up 562 places, Blind Willie Johnson’s Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground up 1650 places.

- Nice to see big jumps by these songs outside the top 1000: Chuck Berry’s Brown Eyed Handsome Man up 756 places, Fleetwood Mac’s Dreams up 851 places, Mississippi John Hurt’s Stack O’ Lee Blues up 956 places, Donovan’s Sunshine Superman up 971 places, Kate Bush’s Hounds of Love up 1141 places, Beastie Boys’ Paul Revere up 1575 places.

- Backstreet Boys’ I Want It That Way down 901 places and getting the fuck out of the top 1000.

- Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On significantly raising the credibility of the list by dropping out of the top 3000.

- And finally, despite dropping 953 places MC Hammer's U Can’t Touch This is still on the list to remind us that we shouldn't take the opinion of critics (and our own) too seriously...

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P-H-E-N-O-M-E-N-A-L...!!! Thanks Henrik for all the time and energy that you put into this...The result is really impressive...

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Thanks Henrik!!!

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Thanks everyone!

The higher positions for the top songs of the '00s are because of a consensus around these songs from the critics. It's natural that a consensus takes form after a few years, but probably the consensus is particularly strong because all lists came out at the same time, at the end of the decade.

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The top 100 artists with changes in brackets.

1 (0) The Beatles
2 (0) The Rolling Stones
3 (0) Bob Dylan
4 (0) David Bowie
5 (1) Radiohead
6 (-1) Led Zeppelin
7 (1) Bruce Springsteen
8 (-1) Prince
9 (0) The Who
10 (1) Jimi Hendrix
11 (-1) Elvis Presley
12 (0) The Beach Boys
13 (0) The Velvet Underground
14 (4) Neil Young
15 (0) R.E.M.
16 (-2) Marvin Gaye
17 (-1) U2
18 (-1) The Clash
19 (0) Nirvana
20 (0) Stevie Wonder
21 (0) Pink Floyd
22 (0) Bob Marley and The Wailers
23 (0) Elvis Costello
24 (0) The Smiths
25 (0) Talking Heads
26 (1) Van Morrison
27 (-1) Aretha Franklin
28 (0) The Byrds
29 (0) Public Enemy
30 (3) Miles Davis
31 (1) James Brown
32 (-2) The Doors
33 (-2) The Kinks
34 (1) Beastie Boys
35 (1) Johnny Cash
36 (6) Pixies
37 (-3) Michael Jackson
38 (1) Sly and the Family Stone
39 (4) John Lennon
40 (-3) Sex Pistols
41 (-3) Beck
42 (-1) Otis Redding
43 (-3) Creedence Clearwater Revival
44 (1) Lou Reed
45 (4) Sonic Youth
46 (5) Joni Mitchell
47 (-1) Roxy Music
48 (-4) Madonna
49 (-1) Joy Division
50 (0) Kraftwerk
51 (2) The Band
52 (11) OutKast
53 (-1) Ramones
54 (-7) Blur
55 (3) New Order
56 (4) Björk
57 (-2) Simon and Garfunkel
58 (-4) Oasis
59 (5) John Coltrane
60 (1) The Stooges
61 (-4) PJ Harvey
62 (4) Tom Waits
63 (-4) Ray Charles
64 (4) The Cure
65 (-9) The Police
66 (-4) Massive Attack
67 (0) Chuck Berry
68 (-3) The Jam
69 (0) Al Green
70 (0) The White Stripes
71 (0) Steely Dan
72 (26) Jay-Z
73 (0) Metallica
74 (27) Portishead
75 (10) Wilco
76 (-4) AC/DC
77 (-2) Black Sabbath
78 (-1) Brian Eno
79 (-3) Parliament/Funkadelic
80 (23) Arcade Fire
81 (-3) Patti Smith
82 (1) Pavement
83 (-3) Frank Zappa/The Mothers of Invention
84 (-2) Frank Sinatra
85 (-6) LCD Soundsystem
86 (0) Nick Cave
87 (2) Leonard Cohen
88 (-1) Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
89 (1) Primal Scream
90 (-9) Guns N' Roses
91 (-3) Fleetwood Mac
92 (-18) Eminem
93 (56) Animal Collective
94 (-2) Nick Drake
95 (-11) Buddy Holly & The Crickets
96 (15) The Flaming Lips
97 (-3) Kanye West
98 (-7) Elton John
99 (38) Daft Punk
100 (10) Smashing Pumpkins

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The Slant 90s list looks to have had a decent impact on the proceedings. it pushed two Madonna singles ("Erotica" and "Secret") into the top 3000 for the first time. As that happens, "Open Your Heart" dropped to bubbling-under status, and, a couple of other tracks are close to dropping out of the top 3000, as well. Placement on, say, a future Best of the 80s list would turn things around nicely for a couple of them at least.

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Does anyone else not see the links to the 2008 and 2009 songs on the main page?

And as everyone else has already said, your updates are exciting and always appreciated! Thanks!

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Oh, and also, Idioteque for the freakin WIN! That's my favorite result of the whole update, at least out of what I've seen so far. From bubbling under to 2nd for 2000. Very well deserved.

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Evan, the links are there. Did you refresh the main page? I had to do that when first looking at some pages.

Bubbling under to No. 233 is quite a jump for that Radiohead track.

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Thanks for the update, Henrik! Looking forward to the albums update by the end of next year!

Henrik
The top 100 artists with changes in brackets.


46 (5) Joni Mitchell
48 (-4) Madonna


There's justice!

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How exactly did the Pixies gain 6 spots when their top two songs lost ground (sadly)?

Also, from the perspective of the AMWC, teh only change in the A-pool (which I think will be abolished for next year) is the addition of Miles Davis and the loss of the Kinks.

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Here are the current #1 songs per year. Top songs that have changed in the new update are listed in bold, with the previous #1 in brackets.

1902 - Scott Joplin - "The Entertainer"
1903 - N/A
1904 - N/A
1905 - N/A
1906 - N/A
1907 - N/A
1908 - N/A
1909 - Fisk Jubilee Singers - "Swing Low Sweet Chariot"
1910 - N/A
1911 - Sophie Tucker - "Some of These Days"
1912 - N/A
1913 - Chauncey Olcott - "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling"
1914 - N/A
1915 - N/A
1916 - N/A
1917 - N/A
1918 - The Original Dixieland Jazz Band - "Tiger Rag"
1919 - Al Jolson - "Swanee"
1920 - Mamie Smith - "Crazy Blues"
1921 - N/A
1922 - Eck Robertson - "Sally Gooden"
1923 - Bessie Smith - "Downhearted Blues"
1924 - George Gershwin - "Rhapsody in Blue"
1925 - Bessie Smith - "St. Louis Blues"
1926 - Gene Austin - "Bye Bye Blackbird"
1927 - Blind Willie Johnson - "Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground" (Hoagy Carmichael and His Pals - "Star Dust")
1928 - Louis Armstrong - "West End Blues"
1929 - The Carter Family - "Wildwood Flower"
1930 - Duke Ellington - "Mood Indigo"
1931 - Cab Calloway & His Orchestra - "Minnie the Moocher"
1932 - Duke Ellington - "It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing" (Reverend Thomas A. Dorsey - "Take My Hand, Precious Lord")
1933 - Ethel Waters - "Stormy Weather"
1934 - The Sons of the Pioneers - "Tumbling Tumbleweeds"
1935 - The Carter Family - "Can the Circle Be Unbroken (Bye and Bye)"
1936 - Robert Johnson - "Cross Road Blues"
1937 - Robert Johnson - "Hellhound on My Trail" (Benny Goodman - "Hellhound on My Trail")
1938 - Kate Smith - "God Bless America"
1939 - Billie Holiday - "Strange Fruit"
1940 - Leadbelly - "The Midnight Special"
1941 - Billie Holiday - "God Bless the Child" (Duke Ellington - "Take the 'A' Train")
1942 - Bing Crosby - "White Christmas"
1943 - Duke Ellington - "Come Sunday" (The Mills Brothers - "Paper Doll")
1944 - Les Brown & His Orchestra with Doris Day - "Sentimental Journey"
1945 - Edith Piaf - "La vie en rose" (Charlie Parker - "Koko")
1946 - Thelonious Monk - "'Round Midnight"
1947 - Woody Guthrie - "This Land Is Your Land"
1948 - John Lee Hooker - "Boogie Chillen"
1949 - Hank Williams - "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry"
1950 - Muddy Waters - "Rollin' Stone"
1951 - Jackie Brenston - "Rocket 88"
1952 - Lloyd Price - "Lawdy Miss Clawdy"
1953 - Hank Williams - "Your Cheatin' Heart"
1954 - Bill Haley and His Comets - "(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock"
1955 - Little Richard - "Tutti Frutti"
1956 - Elvis Presley - "Heartbreak Hotel"
1957 - The Crickets - "That'll Be the Day"
1958 - Chuck Berry - "Johnny B. Goode"
1959 - Ray Charles - "What'd I Say"
1960 - The Shirelles - "Will You Love Me Tomorrow"
1961 - Ben E. King - "Stand by Me"
1962 - Booker T. & The MG's - "Green Onions"
1963 - The Ronettes - "Be My Baby" (The Kingsmen - "Louie Louie")
1964 - The Kinks - "You Really Got Me"
1965 - Bob Dylan - "Like a Rolling Stone"
1966 - The Beach Boys - "Good Vibrations"
1967 - Aretha Franklin - "Respect"
1968 - Marvin Gaye - "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" (Otis Redding - "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay")
1969 - The Jackson Five - "I Want You Back"
1970 - Derek and The Dominos - "Layla"
1971 - Marvin Gaye - "What's Going On" (Led Zeppelin - "Stairway to Heaven")
1972 - Stevie Wonder - "Superstition"
1973 - Lynyrd Skynyrd - "Free Bird" (Gladys Knight and The Pips - "Midnight Train to Georgia")
1974 - Bob Marley and The Wailers - "No Woman No Cry"
1975 - Bruce Springsteen - "Born to Run"
1976 - Sex Pistols - "Anarchy in the U.K."
1977 - Sex Pistols - "God Save the Queen"
1978 - The Clash - "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais"
1979 - The Clash - "London Calling"
1980 - Joy Division - "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
1981 - The Specials - "Ghost Town"
1982 - Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - "The Message"
1983 - New Order - "Blue Monday" (The Police - "Every Breath You Take")
1984 - Prince and The Revolution - "When Doves Cry"
1985 - Madonna - "Into the Groove"
1986 - Run-D.M.C. - "Walk This Way"
1987 - Guns N' Roses - "Sweet Child O' Mine"
1988 - Sonic Youth - "Teen Age Riot"
1989 - Public Enemy - "Fight the Power"
1990 - Sinead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2 U"
1991 - Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
1992 - Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg - "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (Radiohead - "Creep")
1993 - Beck - "Loser"
1994 - Oasis - "Live Forever"
1995 - Pulp - "Common People"
1996 - The Prodigy - "Firestarter"
1997 - The Verve - "Bitter Sweet Symphony"
1998 - Fatboy Slim - "The Rockafeller Skank"
1999 - Aphex Twin - "Window Licker" (Eminem - "My Name Is")
2000 - OutKast - "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" (OutKast - "Ms. Jackson")
2001 - Missy Elliott - "Get Ur Freak On"
2002 - LCD Soundsystem - "Losing My Edge" (Missy Elliott - "Work It")
2003 - OutKast - "Hey Ya!"
2004 - Franz Ferdinand - "Take Me Out"
2005 - Arctic Monkeys - "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor" (Kanye West - "Gold Digger")
2006 - Gnarls Barkley - "Crazy"
2007 - M.I.A. - "Paper Planes" (LCD Soundsystem - "All My Friends")
2008 - Hercules and Love Affair - "Blind" (NEW)
2009 - Animal Collective - "My Girls" (NEW)

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Evan
Does anyone else not see the links to the 2008 and 2009 songs on the main page?

And as everyone else has already said, your updates are exciting and always appreciated! Thanks!


I don't see the links either, even after refreshing.

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Thanks for the update, Henrik! Between your November update and the EOY lists just around the corner, this is a wonderful time of year for those of us who enjoy this sort of thing.

Disappointed that Beck seems to have taken a bit of a beating. I didn't expect "The New Pollution" (the previous #3000) to stick around, but both songs from Mutations have dropped down to bubbling-under status, while "Sexx Laws" (not my favorite Beck by any means) actually rose.

On the other hand, the Stone Roses did very well on this update, which makes me happy.

Other good news: Reckoner, Hyper-ballad, Joga, Waiting for Superman, and Moonlight Mile.

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The #1 song by year would make for a cool playlist...hey, I might just do that.

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I used to scoff at a Fatboy Slim song being #1 for 98, but I'm listening to it now and it's actually kinda cool. Definitely not the best song of 98 though.

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Penguin
Evan
Does anyone else not see the links to the 2008 and 2009 songs on the main page?

And as everyone else has already said, your updates are exciting and always appreciated! Thanks!


I don't see the links either, even after refreshing.


Refreshing just worked for me. Give it another shot.

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I noticed when reading through the songs that The Prodigy's "Firestarter" appears in six different of Q's best of decade or best of all time lists. Does this have the same impact on its ranking as would six best of decade/best of all time lists from six different publications? If so, then I think the ranking is inflated because Q has reiterated over and over again that it really likes that song. I also think that it would be really difficult to control that inflation, though. I don't have a big problem with this or anything, I just found that oddity interesting.

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Bite your tongue, HRS! No problems with Joni and Madonna running neck and neck (and she managed to move up, despite being on fewer added lists than Madge for this update).

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It's interesting to note that out of the top ten artists of all time, neither The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Jimi Hendrix have 1 top song for any year.

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Evan
I noticed when reading through the songs that The Prodigy's "Firestarter" appears in six different of Q's best of decade or best of all time lists. Does this have the same impact on its ranking as would six best of decade/best of all time lists from six different publications? If so, then I think the ranking is inflated because Q has reiterated over and over again that it really likes that song. I also think that it would be really difficult to control that inflation, though. I don't have a big problem with this or anything, I just found that oddity interesting.
I do control such inflation! It makes the calculations take much longer time, but it's worth it...

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AM uses old-fashioned html code and frames and you need to delete cached internet files. The best thing is to go into tools somewhere and delete all files. Alternatively you have to right-click on a particular frame and choose refresh frame.

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Well, don't expect to hear anything from me before Christmas; I'm going to need at least that much time to update my iTunes to reflect the new list.

I can't wait.

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Daniel
Here are the current #1 songs per year. Top songs that have changed in the new update are listed in bold, with the previous #1 in brackets.
1963 - The Ronettes - "Be My Baby" (The Kingsmen - "Louie Louie")
1971 - Marvin Gaye - "What's Going On" (Led Zeppelin - "Stairway to Heaven")
1983 - New Order - "Blue Monday" (The Police - "Every Breath You Take")
1992 - Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg - "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (Radiohead - "Creep")
1999 - Aphex Twin - "Window Licker" (Eminem - "My Name Is")
2000 - OutKast - "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" (OutKast - "Ms. Jackson")
2002 - LCD Soundsystem - "Losing My Edge" (Missy Elliott - "Work It")


Couldn't be happier about these changes, especially New Order over the Police and Aphex Twin over Eminem.

New Order really killed it with this update. It's amazing "Ceremony" wasn't even top 1000 and "Bizarre Love Triangle" barely was prior to the update.

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Great update particularly fascinting to see how the decade lists affected everything the rankings over the past few years. Particularly noteworthy that the top songs were Hip-hop flavoured as it pretty m,uch towered over the last 10 years. Two queries:
1. Did any songs drop out of the AM 3000 + bubbling under from this update?
2. Hervé Bourhis (France) - Le Petit Livre Rock: The Juke Box Singles 1950-2009. If this is included in the year end lists, could that also be the case for Dave Marsh's top40 per year 1954- 1981?

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JR
Bite your tongue, HRS! No problems with Joni and Madonna running neck and neck (and she managed to move up, despite being on fewer added lists than Madge for this update).


They are ALWAYS neck and neck! And Madonna has claimed that she loves Joni and Joni has claimed that Madonna is Nero and popular music went downhill from there.

Mitchell is so outspoken, there's even a video of hers speaking about Suzanne Vega and the latest 'two critical failures under her belt.' She never liked the singers that received comparisons to her. She has a love-hate relationship with Rickie Lee Jones, hates Joan Baez and Janis Joplin. Dislikes the late 80s-early 90s boom of singer/songwriters. Otherwise, she has never spoke a word about Kate Bush nor Joanna Newsom nor Björk nor PJ Harvey and has a lasting admiration for the "truly original" Laura Nyro.

I didn't expect Joni to rose this time, though and I always forgot that Aretha Franklin is still ahead of both - and i guess that PJ Harvey won't take the crown next update.

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Colm D
2. Hervé Bourhis (France) - Le Petit Livre Rock: The Juke Box Singles 1950-2009. If this is included in the year end lists, could that also be the case for Dave Marsh's top40 per year 1954- 1981?


If you're referring to the year-end lists from Marsh and Kevin Stein's THE BOOK OF ROCK LISTS, those are already included.

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Colm D
Great update particularly fascinting to see how the decade lists affected everything the rankings over the past few years. Particularly noteworthy that the top songs were Hip-hop flavoured as it pretty m,uch towered over the last 10 years. Two queries:
1. Did any songs drop out of the AM 3000 + bubbling under from this update?
2. Hervé Bourhis (France) - Le Petit Livre Rock: The Juke Box Singles 1950-2009. If this is included in the year end lists, could that also be the case for Dave Marsh's top40 per year 1954- 1981?
1. You mean if any songs left the site completely? No.
2. This was a mistake. Bourhis compiled the lists in 2009 (I think) so his lists should not have been treated as EOY. I will not update the rankings now, but in the next site update Bourhis list will be an "all-time list" with higher weight.

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Only yesterday I told a friend of mine about Acclaimed Music: "It's a great site, too bad it's no longer updated." Way to make me look like a fool! Well done, Henrik.

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Do you still maintain links to old AM pages to compare previous rankings??

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Henrik
Evan
I noticed when reading through the songs that The Prodigy's "Firestarter" appears in six different of Q's best of decade or best of all time lists. Does this have the same impact on its ranking as would six best of decade/best of all time lists from six different publications? If so, then I think the ranking is inflated because Q has reiterated over and over again that it really likes that song. I also think that it would be really difficult to control that inflation, though. I don't have a big problem with this or anything, I just found that oddity interesting.
I do control such inflation! It makes the calculations take much longer time, but it's worth it...


That's great to hear! Must be a hell of a task.

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Henrik,

Including bubbling under tracks, I noticed that there are 4,879 songs on the spreadsheet.

Do you think that you would ever expand the Top 3000 to a Top 4000 or 5000?

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By the way, I forgot to mention...

Thanks for the update, Henrik! You certainly put a lot of hard work into this every time! :D

Acclaimed Music is hands-down the website I get most excited about to see updates to!

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Daniel
Henrik,

Including bubbling under tracks, I noticed that there are 4,879 songs on the spreadsheet.

Do you think that you would ever expand the Top 3000 to a Top 4000 or 5000?
I might do that sometime in the future, but I really want to be "sure" that no songs outside the bubbling unders would make the list, and right now I'm only sure about the top 3000.

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With the new entries and the songs that fell off the 3000 lists, the bubbling under section grew up to 1879 songs. Almost a list for itself now

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Many thanks for the update, Henrik!

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Great news!

Thanks for this update, Henrik! It sure has been a hard work for you.

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Of all the things to love and hate about the new update, I think these three make me the most happy:
1- Sunday Bloody Sunday in the top 200 (closing in on One)
2- Hallelujah in the top 1000
3- Juicy in the top 1000
Of all the negatives, I'm the most saddened by the fall of All Along the Watchtower out of hte top 100

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Listyguy
Of all the things to love and hate about the new update, I think these three make me the most happy:
1- Sunday Bloody Sunday in the top 200 (closing in on One)
2- Hallelujah in the top 1000
3- Juicy in the top 1000
Of all the negatives, I'm the most saddened by the fall of All Along the Watchtower out of hte top 100


Every time I hear the Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower I enjoy it more. I wonder why it doesn't improve with time for the critics.

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I can understand why people would think Hey Ya! is too high. But with it up to 19th, every decade from the 1950s on is represented in the top 20, which I think is definitely a good thing.

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Thanks a lot for the outstanding job Henrik!

"Hey Ya!" is a little overhyped, still, it's great, but not Outkast's best, if "Ms. Jackson" was on the Top 100 I think it would be more deserving. Also, sad to see that the songs from "In Utero" have dropped down so much (funny thing that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" ain't even Nirvana's best song and now it's #3 of all time-sure it's awesome and full of energy and probably sums up the whole grunge movement but in terms of sound it lacks the complexity of, say, "Come As You Are" or the pure darkness of "Heart Shaped Box"),

I pray that this "Louie Louie" song someday will leave the Top 100 for good... even the Top 200. "Get Ur Freak On" too. "Crazy In Love" is catchy, but above "Light My Fire"? Or "Walk On The Wild Side"? Or "Layla"? Waaaaaay too much. It's also a shame to see "All Along The Watchtower", "Live Forever" and "Little Red Corvette" out of the Top 100 now. Critics...

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HRS
JR
Bite your tongue, HRS! No problems with Joni and Madonna running neck and neck (and she managed to move up, despite being on fewer added lists than Madge for this update).


They are ALWAYS neck and neck! And Madonna has claimed that she loves Joni and Joni has claimed that Madonna is Nero and popular music went downhill from there.

Mitchell is so outspoken, there's even a video of hers speaking about Suzanne Vega and the latest 'two critical failures under her belt.' She never liked the singers that received comparisons to her. She has a love-hate relationship with Rickie Lee Jones, hates Joan Baez and Janis Joplin. Dislikes the late 80s-early 90s boom of singer/songwriters. Otherwise, she has never spoke a word about Kate Bush nor Joanna Newsom nor Björk nor PJ Harvey and has a lasting admiration for the "truly original" Laura Nyro.

I didn't expect Joni to rose this time, though and I always forgot that Aretha Franklin is still ahead of both - and i guess that PJ Harvey won't take the crown next update.


Joni is certainly outspoken, but what she says is completely geniune and she won't shy away from making harsh criticisms. She has even spoken against close friend Neil Young and Prince. There was some uproar when she spoke against legendary artist, Bob Dylan for plagiarism and deception. She disliked being compared to him "we are like night and day, he and I". I recall reading that Joni had fallen out with Laura Nyro on occassions but she was admittedly still a huge influence nonetheless and inspired her to return to the piano. I think she may come across as a bit cranky and/or jealous, but really she's spent most of her career creating original art and being slammed for it by critics. When an artist like Madonna is gaining more recognition than Joni's work, I too would start questioning where the music industry is going!

Joni doesn't really need to speak of Kate Bush, Joanna Newsom, Bjork or PJ Harvey because she has removed herself from the music industry and cares little for it. I personally feel its a bit weird that the media feels it's necessary to compare all female artists to one another. I personally wouldn't like to compare her to any other female artist, and it may be biased to say, but I feel she was one of the few original rare talents.

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Listyguy
How exactly did the Pixies gain 6 spots when their top two songs lost ground (sadly)?


I assume it is because they now have 7 songs ranked while they only had 4 in the previous list.
The artist rank is based on the top 6 songs of each artists, so that must have make a significative change.

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What do you mean, Steve, "an artist like Madonna"? You may not personally care for her (just as I don't some acts who are acclaimed), but there's no denying that she's been among the best in pop music. Just as Joni was one of the best in the music that she did.

Lots of females have talked about how the media/people pit female vs. female, but never do that for men.

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JR
What do you mean, Steve, "an artist like Madonna"? You may not personally care for her (just as I don't some acts who are acclaimed), but there's no denying that she's been among the best in pop music. Just as Joni was one of the best in the music that she did.

Lots of females have talked about how the media/people pit female vs. female, but never do that for men.


There's no denying Madonna's many talents. I thoroughly enjoy her music.

When one makes a statement such as "an artist like Madonna" the meaning is ambiguous. In my view, Steve was intending to draw a clear contrast between Madonna and Joni. Their music is quite different and my take is that Madonna is more pop, dance, and beat oreinted and perhaps provides more superficial messaging than Joni.

But, I would be interested in better understanding the intent that Steve had in making the "artist like Madonna" comment.

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I have nothing against Madonna's music, per say. However, during the time when Madonna was making it big, Joni was being the unfortunate messsanger of important cultural issues in the world, and largely being ignored for it.

Arguably, Madonna's greatest talent is for being an opportunist. She garnered so much attention, I have little reason to doubt she was influential to the next generation. Unfortunately I feel she has had a negative impact on the music industry. We're speaking in generalities of course, but girls must be young and beautiful to have any sort of pop career these days. Madonna might not be the cause for this shallow viewpoint but I wouldn't argue with the opinion that she was a turning point. While the sexual music business is booming, the cultural issues are still just as prevalent now as they were back in the 80's, if not more so.

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Steve E
girls must be young and beautiful to have any sort of pop career these days.

Lady Gaga is NOT beautiful

Or Adele for that matter

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Or Jayne Mansfield for that matter




....Madonna IS even worse than post 83-Duran Duran.

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It is fair to say that the history of women in pop music can be divided into before... and after... Madonna. Most of the reasons she garnered so much attention is because of things she did in her work- gender, racial, religious, sexual and social mores in her music, stage shows, videos, etc. She definitely used music as a means for other goals, no doubt about that- and image was about as important as the music at times- but that doesn't negate that the music has been pretty darn great, overall.

What's interesting in this is that as respected and highly regarded as Joni is, she was not a first-year-eligible inductee into the Rock Hall of Fame- among females, only Janis Joplin and Madonna have made it in in their first year of eligibility. Aretha Franklin made it in in the Hall's second year ()she was eligible in the first year).

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Lady Gaga's an exception. She uses wacky makeup and costumes so people don't notice she's not attractive. Plus she capitalized on social networking and benefited a lot from the 'Kanye effect'.

But, Madonna's hardly to blame for that, you can't place all the fault for the way MTV changed the music industry on one woman who happened to be a central figure in MTV's early days.

I don't know to what extent she is creatively involved in her music, but it's probably more than most pop singers and a whole lot less than Joni.

Joni Mitchell's great but she can also be a bit self righteous. One of those people who will rail against capitalism but can't live without the comfort it provides.

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Steve E


Joni is certainly outspoken, but what she says is completely geniune and she won't shy away from making harsh criticisms. She has even spoken against close friend Neil Young and Prince. There was some uproar when she spoke against legendary artist, Bob Dylan for plagiarism and deception. She disliked being compared to him "we are like night and day, he and I". I recall reading that Joni had fallen out with Laura Nyro on occassions but she was admittedly still a huge influence nonetheless and inspired her to return to the piano. I think she may come across as a bit cranky and/or jealous, but really she's spent most of her career creating original art and being slammed for it by critics. When an artist like Madonna is gaining more recognition than Joni's work, I too would start questioning where the music industry is going!

Joni doesn't really need to speak of Kate Bush, Joanna Newsom, Bjork or PJ Harvey because she has removed herself from the music industry and cares little for it. I personally feel its a bit weird that the media feels it's necessary to compare all female artists to one another. I personally wouldn't like to compare her to any other female artist, and it may be biased to say, but I feel she was one of the few original rare talents.


TEAM JONI!

She certainly has points. She knows how this hype machine works. She knew every singer/songwriter after her would be deemed the "new Joni Mitchell". When she got the comparison she'd go and speak of in a good way - the days of Rickie Lee Jones - but many of the times she didn't and she spoke about it. I'm more biased. I believe Mrs. Mitchell is the greatest female artist of all time. I'm glad she's back to the top 50 and ahead of many other bands and artists of any sex. She's a truly music original and a genius. Even after her gold era. She deserves every single acclaim she receives and yet, her later days have been truly underrated. She has spoke of Dylan, and Cat Power and Antony in interview to LA Times. She argued that they were characters and theatrical voices, a path she never took during her career.

The thing is: Joni Mitchell knows she's a genius and a living legend. So when a journalist tries to compare someone that just stormed at the scene and plays an acoustic instrument to her and eventually asks Mitchell herself about this artist is pretty much a sure thing that she won't say nice things. If she doesn't speak of the artist, she speaks of her way of doing music and way it stood time, why she was unique. And she's not wrong. I must say sometimes it sucks to see artists being so conscious about their art and its value, but she's Joni Mitchell after all. Not Lady Gaga nor any sub pop artist. She's actually everything she thinks she is.

I'm against the whole women vs women thing. Joni could have avoided many of the words she has used against Suzanne Vega, Tracy Chapman, Tori Amos, Sheryl Crow etc etc, but she was asked for. Something similar happened with M.I.A. and Joanna Newsom last year when both of them spoke about Lady Gaga and how her music was weak compared to the image management. Suddenly the press went nuts. Newsom even called Madonna a dumbass for being more of a follower these days. It's complicated. It's not only the press that likes to compare the girls - these days everyone is compared to the big 3 (Joanna Newsom, M.I.A., Janelle Monaé - since the girls themselves dislike this behavior and ended up bitting each other. Björk has been more supportive of them. She has spoken great thing about up and coming women in music - including the previous two i cited. Kate Bush should be an example. She's another that take years to release something and is most of the time out of the business, still, she's a class act that never spoke about other females. And she pretty much knows she's a genius and a living legend, too. Joanna Newsom is another that accept comparisons pretty well. I might be a little biased, but reading a lot of her interviews i came to admire the way she deals with the press. If the people who find her pretentious only knew - she's a very sympathetic figure. Natasha Khan has spoke great words about Joanna Newsom - she loves Ys - and Kate Bush and Björk, but didn't share the same feeling towards Tori Amos in a earlier interview. Courtney Love never liked Liz Phair, and Steve Albini always made clear his opinions about her. During her heydays in the 90s, PJ Harvey called the Patti Smith comparisons lame press. This year Smith said the best words about Polly's new single and Harvey finally cited her as influence. She also spoke great words about Anna Calvi. It's amazing how PJ Harvey is untouchable among women. I've seen men speak of her like Elvis Costello, but women respect her a lot. EMA and Bethanne for Best coast have been for a while giving credit to artists like Liz Phair and Kim Deal as influences. I guess it pretty much depends of the artist whereas she will speak nice words, omit herself or criticize.

I don't have much to opine on Madonna. I always saw great singles and consistent to weak albums. I guess she's pretty overrated album-wise, but she does delivered some of the greatest pop singles of all time - maybe that's why it's surprising the fact that she slipped down on the list.

The fact that 95% of the artists compared to Joni Mitchell fell into irrelevance these days pretty much justifies Mitchell's rage when it comes to comparisons. There was a boom of females in the 90s and we basically don't care about them anymore because they were fluke. Imagine you're an artist that peaked at the 70s and since then every single female till these days is compared to your music. The latest is Laura Marling, then, the press finds another one - i like Laura very much, by the way. Once in a while an artist compared to her - or a female singer/songwriter for that matter - stays around strong for more than one or two albums - it's the case of Polly Harvey, Kate Bush, Björk, Joanna Newsom, etc etc

And if a female singer/songwriter isn't compared to Joni, then she's Lucinda Williams territory.

That Tracy Chapman and Alanis are inside the top 500 while others not is a shame. Rickie Lee Jones deserves more attention. Pirates is a masterpiece and her first and fourth album are excellent pieces of music. What about the other Kate Bush records that aren't inside the top 600? Joni's career really died after Hejira? Is every Laura Nyro's name is kicked around but i'm yet to see critics making some difference about her underrated label when it comes to lists. Suzanne Vega's first two albums are strong showings of singer/songwriters in the 80s. There are a lot of females that are pretty much the definition of underrated: Nico, Michelle Shocked, Lydia Lunch, Annette Peacock, Josephine Foster, Marissa Nadler, Lisa Germano, Kristin Hersh, Me'Shell NdegéOcello and many others.

And it's also time to show more respect when it comes to the ones that keep hanging around the middle of the lists: Fiona Apple, Marianne Faithfull, Laurie Anderson, Gillian Welch, Neko Case etc etc. Girls that still have their credit due.

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^ Great post, HRS. Sorry to dumb things down...



Hmmm... In the real world Madonna totally would've won that fight.

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Nah, I's a cool video!

Also: ignore the 'Is Every' before Laura Nyro haha and another thing: female fronted groups like Cocteau Twins, Sleater-Kinney The United States of America and Broadcast also have their credit due. Portishead, Blondie at least are exceptions that are going pretty well!

I'm no feminist - of course - i don't want to say that comparisons and fight among men don't happen - they sure do and they sure get nasty on press, too. It's just a fact that many women are underrated. I'm not a fan of the idea that women need to support each other more, since that ended up giving us lilith fair but they sure need to know how to deal with the press better. They're not Joni Mitchell.

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Her Madgesty didn't fare GREAT on the decade-end lists, so that could have influenced the slight drop in rank (a couple of tracks will see more weight for that French jukebox list, though, which will be moved to the all-time section, but that shouldn't result in a dramatic jump).

HRS, the way you feel about Joni is how I feel about Madonna. And I respect that. :) I became as big a fan as a I am not only because I thoroughly enjoyed the musical work, but also because I was fascinated that a mainstream pop star was doing what she was doing, tackling all sorts of cultural issues, going as far as she was, and giving our culture and society important topics of discussion. All the books/essays devoted to analyzing and dissecting the music, videos, concerts, etc.- it reeled me in to look further into this woman (I was around 14 when I really started delving into her).

One thing that Joni and Madonna have in common- aside from a large level of acclaim- is that they are not afraid to speak their mind. When Joni made the comment, Madonna's spokeswoman responded with this:

“Wow. What can I say? Madonna has always been a huge fan of Joni Mitchell’s. I don’t know what to say. I’m sorry she feels that way. Madonna speaks frequently about her admiration and worship of Joni’s talent. Wow. The feeling isn’t mutual.”

Madge shouldn't feel bad- Joni's dissed some very acclaimed and well-regarded acts, it looks.