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Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

1.1 - Selda - Yaz gazeteci yaz
1.2 - Rokia Traoré - Dounia
1.3 - Mulatu Astatke - Yèkèrmo sèw
1.4 - Solomon Linda - Mbube

2.1 - Jorge Ben - Taj Mahal
2.2 - Trio Matamoros - Son de la Loma
2.3 - Harmonium - Vert
2.4 - Gustavo Santaolalla - De ushuaia a la quiaca

4.1 - Imperiet - Märk hur vår skugga
4.2 - АукцЫон - Дорога
4.3 - Benjamin Biolay - Brandt rhapsodie
4.4 - Lucio Battisti - Anonimo

I might come back with Asian picks.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan
I think we should, although someone like Shakira or Nelly Furtado, who have both released Spanish albums that don't have 1000 votes on RYM, probably should not be eligible.


Yes let's say they're not eligible. the line is kinda blurred, but you are the judge (an I can be your assistant)

And one more question : I suppose Hawaii is in the Pacific region and not North America. What's your opinion ?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Yeah, Hawaii is Pacific.

Almost a hundred nominations already!

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

1.1 Erkin Koray - Ýnat (Turkey, 1974)
1.2. Group Inerane - Kuni Majagani (Niger, 2007)
1.3 Birigwa - Yelewa (Uganda, 1972)
(and of course Mulatu Astatke: Yekermo Sew, nominated by Henrik)
1.4 Thomas Mapfumo: Haruna (Zimbabwe, 1980s) Youtube

2.1 Airto Moreira - Samba de Flora (198 - Youtube
2.2 Les Frères Déjean - Experience (Haiti, 1977)
2.3 Sussie 4 - Escapar (Mexico, 2002) - Youtube
2.4. Los Esplendidos - Muchacha Provinciana (Peru, 1970) - Youtube

3.1. Tokyo Jihen - Kurumaya-san (Japan, 2004) - Youtube
3.2 Ananda Shankar - Dancing Drums (India, 1975) - Youtube
3.3 Ros Sereysothea - Superstar (Cambodia, ca. 1973) - Youtube
3.4 Alfred Aholo Apaka - Na Moku Eha (Hawaii, 1947)

4.1. Eleanoora Rosenholm - Bolly Palkkionmetsästäjä (Finnland, 200 - Youtube
4.2. Czeslaw Niemen - Dziwny Jest Ten Swiat (Poland, 1967) - Youtube
4.3. Tocotronic - Hi Freaks (Germany, 2002) - Youtube
4.4. Goblin - Suspiria (Italy, 1977) - Youtube

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4.3 : La Mer - Charles Trenet (France)
The only choice I can make. This game is too hard.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

like nic, i'm happy to withdraw some of these if people who haven't voted yet would like to nominate some songs

1.1 - Abdel Aziz el Mubarak - "Tahrimni Minnak" (Sudan)
1.2 - Baaba Maal - "Tindo" (Senegal)
1.3 - Geoffrey Oryema - "Lapwony" (Uganda)
1.4 - Abdullah Ibrahim - "The Mountain" (South Africa)

2.1 - Vinicius Cantuaria - "Vivo Isolado do Mundo" (Brazil)
2.2 - Boukman Eksperyans - "Nou La" (Haiti)
2.3 - Esquivel - "Latin-Esque" (Mexico)
2.4 - Susana Baca - "Tu Mirada y Mi Voz" (Peru)

3.1 - Fantastic Plastic Machine - "Philter" (Japan)
3.2 - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Michael Brook - "Sweet Pain" (Pakistan)
3.3 - The Dawn - "Abot Kamay" (Phillipines)
3.4 - what else are other people planning on putting here? i'd like to add something by gabby or atta, but haven't settled on a song yet, open to suggestions.

4.1 - still don't know here...
4.2 - Marta Sebestyen - "Harom Arva" (Hungary)
4.3 - Heather Jones - "Nos Ddu" (Wales)
4.4 - Nino Rota - "Amarcord" (Italy)

actually, i'd love to nominate Suba's beautiful "A Felicidade" but i'm not sure where it belongs. he was serbian, but by this time he was living and working in brazil, and the song probably belongs with others from this region, so in that case replace the Cantuaria song (otherwise, the Sebestyen one). thanks.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Can't accept your 4.3 since it's already full, but that makes:

1.2 - 16 (Full)
4.2 - 16 (Full)
4.3 - 16 (Full)
4.4 - 16 (Full)

However, like Greg said, if someone who hasn't nominated for these regions yet really wants to nominate a song, let me know and we'll work something out.

I'll nominate the gorgeous Ett Enskilt Rum På Sabbatsberg by John Holm for 4.1, courtesy of Fred's great thread on Sweden.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

ah bummer, it'd be nice to have something welsh in there...anybody wanna trade?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I'm biased but I thought 4.1 would be one of the first to be filled. As a companion to Fred's list, here are some of my favorite Swedish songs, in chronological order:

Lars Gullin - Danny's Dream (since Nicolas changed his vote) (jazz)
Monica Zetterlund - Sakta vi gå genom stan (vocal jazz)
Anita Lindblom - Sånt är livet (schlager/pop)
Jan Johansson - Visa från Utanmyra (jazz)
Cornelis Vreeswijk - Somliga går med trasiga skor (singer/songwriter)
Jojje Wadenius - Kalles klätterträd (children's music)
Pugh Rogefeldt - Här kommer natten (psychedelic rock)
Träd, gräs och stenar - Sanningens silverflod (psychedelic rock)
John Holm - Ett enskilt rum på Sabbatsberg (singer/songwriter)
Nationalteatern - Livet är en fest (folk rock)
Peps Blodsband - Hög standard (reggae)
Magnus Uggla - Varning på stan (pop punk)
Dag Vag - Dimma (punk)
Mikael Wiehe - Flickan och kråkan (singer/songwriter)
Adolphson & Falk - Blinkar blå (synth pop)
Lustans lakejer - Diamanter är en flickas bästa vän (new wave)
Ulf Lundell - Den vassa eggen (rock)
Eldkvarn - Kärlekens tunga (rock)
Di Leva - Vi har bara varandra (pop)
Lisa Ekdahl - Vem vet (singer/songwriter)
Bo Kaspers orkester - Puss (jazz pop)
Petter - Så klart! (hip hop)
Kaah - Dom tittar när jag dansar (soul/funk)
Detektivbyrån - E18 (folktronica)

The following songs are also among my favorites, however they are foreign songs that were rewritten with Swedish lyrics so maybe less interesting for this game:
Lill Lindfors - Du är den ende (pop)
Fred Åkerström - Jag ger dig min morgon (singer/songwriter)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round
Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan, you put Arvo Pärt in the 4.2 section but it belongs to 4.1 (Estonia)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Thanks! Still 1 spot left in 4.2 then.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

and another (small) mistake is that you switched Henrik's 3.2 and 3.1 asian votes (he placed them wrong)

Here's my count

1.1 15
1.2 16 (full)
1.3 15
1.4 12

2.1 15
2.2 13
2.3 15
2.4 15

3.1 13
3.2 13
3.3 11
3.4 10

4.1 14
4.2 15
4.3 16 (full)
4.4 16 (full)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Thanks, I haven't really had the time to do anything but add them to the spreadsheet. And I have the same count.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

3.1 Hanggai - My Banjo And I (China) youtube

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Full (with 16 nominations)

1.2 West Africa
1.3 East Central Africa

2.1 Brazil
2.3 North/Central America
2.4 South America

3.1 East Asia (Japan China Korea Vietnam Mongolia)

4.1 to 4.4 : all Europe

However, like Stephan said, if someone who hasn't nominated for these regions yet really wants to nominate a song, let us know and we'll work something out.

Still open for people who have nominated less than 2 songs :

1.1 North Africa (1 song left)
1.3 Southern Africa (3 songs)

2.2 Caribbean (1 song left)

3.2 South Asia (3 songs left)
3.3 Southeast Asia (4 songs left)
3.4 Oceania (6 songs left)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I'm gonna change two of my votes

Stephan, I'll post my final updated lists in whole if you want and replace the mp3 files in the Dropbox

In 2.3, I'd like to remove Ry Cooder and his 500+ RYM ratings and replace it with

The Klezmorim - Fidl Volach (USA) spotify

In 4.2, I'd like to replace Naftule Brandwein by

Aleksandar Šišić - Ćhelipe (Serbia) youtube

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

If it is allowed I want to give the second votes I have left to nicolas for his thoroughgoing work.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Thanks for the list Mindrocker! I'm gonna need a few changes though. First, I can't accept 3 songs from 1.3, there's only place for 2. You'll have to pick two. Secondly, I can't accept 2 songs from 2.4, because we already have 15 songs. You'll have to pick one.

Yeah Henrik, that is acceptable. Feel free to nominate another round nicolas. Also, anyone can vote another time for 3.3 and 3.4 if they want to (that means you can vote twice for those, nic).

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Thanks guys !!

First I'm gonna give you my remaining 2nd round nominations

1.4 Regis Gizavo - Malaso (Madagascar) youtube

3.3 Sambasunda - Lost Two Tigers (Indonesia)

Then, on behalf of Henrik

2.2 Compay Segundo - Yo Vengo aqui youtube

More to come later

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Actually, sorry Mindrocker, but there's only 1 spot for 1.3 left, so I can only accept 1 of the 3.

Also, there hasn't been a single album nomination yet. Is anyone interested in this small added competition or not?

Remaining:
1.1 - 1
1.4 - 2
2.3 - 1
3.2 - 2
3.3 - 3
3.4 - 6

Nicolas, the bolded numbers are the ones that are different between the two of us; I'm not sure who of us is wrong, perhaps you counted hectorthebat's Motherjane?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I recounted and you're right for both regions. My bad.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

1.1 (courtesy of Henrik)
Soli - Negar (Iran) fabulous 70s pop before the bearded men came

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Sorry I found a much better one

1.1 Zia - Helelyos (Iran) youtube

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

nicolas/henrik 2nd round nominations

1.4 Bonga - Mona Ki Ngi Xica (Angola) youtube

2.3 Ry Cooder - A Canción mixteca (USA)

(Return of Ry, I love this song too much...)

3.2 Various Artists (by A.R. Rahman) - Ghanan Ghanan (OST Lagaan) youtube

My favorite Bollywood movie has excelllent music

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3.3 Kwan Jai & Kwan Jit Sriprajan - E-Saew Tam Punha Huajai (Thailand) youtube
3.4 Danny Stewart - Les Femmes d'Amérique (Hawaii/Tahiti) spotify


Additional

3.3 Panbers - Haai (Indonesia) youtube
3.4 Warumpi Band - Jailangaru Pakarnu (Australia) youtube

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Since there are already plenty nominations from Ethiopia and Congo you can omit Muluqen Mellesse and Bantous Jazz, and from the 2.4 section Joe Arroyo.
Also, can you please replace Carabao's Made In Thailand by the following song?

SUANG SANTI-Dub Fai Kui Gun (Thailand)


And another addition for 1.1 (not sure if this section is already complete):

HANAN BULU BULU-Arabian title (Sudan)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I can only accept that nomination from Sudan if nicolas is willing to give up Henrik's nomination.

Remaining:
1.4 - 1
3.2 - 1
3.3 - 1
3.4 - 4

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Well, I'm embarrassed because I really like that Iranian song and we have nothing from Iran ....

Mindrocker, do you really want to add this song ? I can remove one of mine but it will be painful

In that case Stephan take out Slimane Azem - Algérie (my first choice)

PS Looks like the name of the Hanan Bulu Bulu song is Hagaa Kolen Kolen (in Western alphabet)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

That Sudanese song is Mindrocker's first North African choice so it is fair that I remove one song.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

nicolas
Mindrocker, do you really want to add this song ? I can remove one of mine but it will be painful

That is not necessary. Stephan, can you replace Hanan Bulu Bulu by the following one?:

MANKA LE PHALLANG-Ea Nyoloha Khanyapa (Lesotho)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Sure! Problem solved.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

and for 1.4 I'm gonna replace my first choice Letta Mbulu

with

1.4 Danyel Waro - Banm Kalou Banm (La Réunion) youtube

Sorry but as I had time this week I've listened to a lot of music and rediscovered great things in the meantime

Stephan if it helps I'll post or send you my definitive lists when it is done (and it is almost done)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Bump

Looks like this game is stalling, and nominations aren't completely done.

There are still

1 song from region 3.2 (South Central Asia)
1 song from 3.3 (Southeast Asia)
4 songs from 3.4 (Oceania)

Stephan, what's your plan ?

I know it's not very easy to find music from these remote regions, but I'm posting many recommendations everyday in the recommendation thread

So is it time for a final round ? If you want I can nominate the rest of the songs. I'll try to post varied styles and not just folk stuff from before 1975

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Sorry nic, I was just looking at this topic after not having a second of time this weekend. Since nobody has nominated any song over the weekend I'll let you fill the remaining spots; the alternative is likely one of us picking some of your recommendations.


I will try to get the first 8 songs uploaded today and get this thing going this week! I was thinking we should probably avoid running country to country as much as possible to get some distinctly different songs in each bracket. What do you think?

Edit: Or wait, we decided on 16 songs before. What do you think is better? It does distill things to 16 weeks rather than 32.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I can't find this song:

Abdel Aziz el Mubarak - Tahrimni Minnak

Greg?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

3.2 Yashan - Ra Thun Yama (Sri Lanka) youtube electro-rap

3.3 Pan Ron - Jombang Jet (Cambodia) youtube

3.4 Fiji Phoenix Choir - Lutu Sobu Na Yakavi (Fiji)
3.4 Holonga Vava'u - Faikava Love Song (Tonga) 1978 youtube
3.4 Mantis - Island Suite (Fiji) (1973) youtube
3.4 Frank Yamma - She Cried (Australia) (2010) youtube


The last song is in English, but it is so Aboriginal that I think it's OK. If not I'll g ve you another

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

I think that avoiding country to country is better

And maybe you could do 1.1 then 2.1 then 3.1 ...
instead of doing Africa then America then Asia...
And why not do 8 songs a week ? It would give people more time to get into the songs (or post 16 songs every other week)

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Yeah, that was my plan (1.1, 2.1, 3.1, etc.). I do think 8 is better than 16, it just makes for a rather long game. In any case, I'll just post the first 8 now while waiting for Greg to get back to me. I'll leave that song (and 7 others) for next week.

I'm not sure if that last song should be eligible to be honest; although it is gorgeous.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

The complete list of songs can be found here. If you spot any mistakes, please let me know!

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

In case you turn it down, you can take this one But you already accepted the song "Australia" by Coloured Stone so that's why I thought it could pass


Other option : Tomas Tepano Tepano - Manu Reva (Easter Island) spotify

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Very true. Unless someone is really opposed I think I'll include it then.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan
The complete list of songs can be found here. If you spot any mistakes, please let me know!


Great !

I saw 3 mistakes

cell 15C : the Khaled song picked by Miguel is "Aicha" not "Chebba" and the artist name is just Khaled

cell 113 last word is Mixteca not Mixteco

220D : correct country is Serbia (not ukraine)

thank you

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Thanks! I'd already noticed the Aicha mistake, but I do think it's Cheb Khaled, unless this is not the song?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan
I can't find this song:

Abdel Aziz el Mubarak - Tahrimni Minnak

Greg?


sure, how should i share it/send it to you?

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Do you have Dropbox? If so, are you using the email I have for you from the film polls? If not, could you set up an account there using that email address?

Edit: Or, I guess if the file isn't too large, you could just mail it.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan
Thanks! I'd already noticed the Aicha mistake, but I do think it's Cheb Khaled, unless this is not the song?


Yes, it's him, he used to be called Cheb Khaled in the beginning but then he dropped the Cheb

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

i have dropbox on a different email address, or yousendit under that one. the file's 13.4 MB

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Let me know (here or by email) which email you're using for Dropbox and I'll invite you to the music folder nicolas is also uploading songs to.

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Stephan, if it's not too late, I'd like to change one of my 2.4 nominations

Could you please replace Carlos Gardel's Mano a mano with

Melingo - Pequeño paria

So instead of 2 Gardel songs we have a common nomination with DanM who missed the 2d round because he was away

Re: AM Foreign World Cup: Nomination Round

Done!