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Re: My Guess...

In a lot of cases, though, mainstream pop really isn't GREAT stuff. Being accessible and catchy doesn't necessarily make it good all the time. I can listen to a lot of stuff on the radio, whether during a workout or whatever, but I would not seek it out to listen to or purchase it. Certain mainstream acts have transcended just the mainstream pop genre on a regular basis, while others do so just with a single or two.

Re: Some help before the next update

Sorry for that mistake-The Swell Season seem to be not from Northern Ireland, but from Ireland in general.

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Moonbeam, about mainstream pop being underrated, I just like to point out that it seems like you are in a minority here as our forum polls always contain less mainstream music.

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Henrik
Moonbeam, about mainstream pop being underrated, I just like to point out that it seems like you are in a minority here as our forum polls always contain less mainstream music.


That's probably true. In all honesty, I dislike a vast majority of mainstream music from say 1991-2011, but I recognize that it is often too easily dismissed by critics simply because of its popularity.

I agree that the VH1 list is filled with some horrendously bad music, but the inclusion of so many big hits is certainly an exception rather than a rule.

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Moonbeam
Henrik
I agree that the VH1 list is filled with some horrendously bad music, but the inclusion of so many big hits is certainly an exception rather than a rule.
Yes, and as I said the majority of lists have a weight parameter close to 1, so let's not make this a bigger issue than it is.

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Henrik
Yes, and as I said the majority of lists have a weight parameter close to 1, so let's not make this a bigger issue than it is.


I'm not intending to make it a big issue! Just thought I'd voice my opinion and say that this site is fantastic as it is without a weighting system. I'm not intending to create a big fuss and I apologize if I come off that way.

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I'm so excited about this update! My November is shaping up to be one giant kick in the face, and the first song update since 2008 will definitely be a bright spot for me!

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How is the anti-commercial factor determined, if I may ask? I'm assuming it's not a judgment call.

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Henrik
I will use a method (that I will never reveal!)

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Ah, right. I was just thinking that it might answer some of the questions and clear up the matter a little if we had a general idea of how it is determined.

That said, I'm all for this. It'll just make the rare gems move up the lists presumably, which is welcome.

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My feeling about mainstream pop is:

-Some of the songs coming out are fantastic, but the rest of the album is usually light filler.

-Some of the songs would be fantastic if they were less electro-stuttery and computerized. There are some pop songs I hate which sounded fantastic on The Voice.

So in summation, the problem with mainstream pop isn't the songwriting, it's the production paradigm of finding a pretty face and sterilizing in production rather than just finding talented singers and letting them sing.

Except for adult contemporary. The problem there is also the songwriting and a general contempt for the intelligence of the audience.

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I found one more list that I will include. This is a good one.

http://onethirtybpm.com/features/the-top-100-tracks-of-the-1980s/

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Ooh- nice find, Henrik. Love 80s lists- and some great tracks on there.

Hopefully Slant publishes 80s lists next year.