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Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

FYI- I believe the next update will include only songs/tracks lists. Perhaps the one thereafter will add 2010/2011 albums.

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

Moonbeam
The Suburbs is a pox on the critical view of 2010. A pox, I say!


I had no idea you felt that way, Moonbeam. Have you ever expressed that feeling on this board before?

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

Harold Wexler
Moonbeam
The Suburbs is a pox on the critical view of 2010. A pox, I say!


I had no idea you felt that way, Moonbeam. Have you ever expressed that feeling on this board before?


Never!

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

My guess, AMF Poll: Suburbs #150 Everybody Look At My Beautiful Dark Twisted Self #80.

AM list: Suburbs ~250, Kanye ~150

I think it will rank higher than College Dropout at first, then fall lower than College Dropout when Kanye's face falls off the news radar and critics start judging it based on the music.

Two 8/10s, not as good as High Violet or Archandroid.

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

I actually don't think MBDTF will rank higher than College Dropout when the 2010 albums are included. #217 is a tall task for an album that finished third in its own year's year-end lists and hasn't appeared on a decade list yet. The College Dropout has appeared on, like, 50 decade lists, so it's got quite the head start. By mid-decade we may see a shift as critics make 2010-2014 lists and possibly decide it's time to weigh in on their top albums of all time.

There's no way The Suburbs ever touches Funeral. Not just any old album reaches the top 50. I'd expect to see it start out somewhere around Neon Bible, maybe a little higher. This may be more of a personal wish than an honest prognostication, but I think its highest position will be in the next update and then it will fall as the decade continues.

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

Interesting guesses, guys. And yes, the next update will be songs only.

Re: Where will 'The Suburbs' and 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' rank on update?

Evan
I actually don't think MBDTF will rank higher than College Dropout when the 2010 albums are included. #217 is a tall task for an album that finished third in its own year's year-end lists and hasn't appeared on a decade list yet. The College Dropout has appeared on, like, 50 decade lists, so it's got quite the head start. By mid-decade we may see a shift as critics make 2010-2014 lists and possibly decide it's time to weigh in on their top albums of all time.

There's no way The Suburbs ever touches Funeral. Not just any old album reaches the top 50. I'd expect to see it start out somewhere around Neon Bible, maybe a little higher. This may be more of a personal wish than an honest prognostication, but I think its highest position will be in the next update and then it will fall as the decade continues.



Both spot on. I think Dark Fantasy will rank right between College Dropout and Late Registration, but then will gain position over the years, and eventually be recognized as his top album.

The Suburbs is a great album, but I don't think we'll be viewing it as a major work in 10 years. It's probably going to wind up with "Other great album" status, and like In Utero, White Blood Cells, and Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, will rank 100 spots below their masterwork.