Put a Pin on the Map View my Forum Guestmap
Free Guestmaps by Bravenet.com

The Old Acclaimed Music Forum

Go to the NEW FORUM

Music, music, music...
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Welcome to the AMF World Cup Drafting Thread.
Here, post the artist from the top 32 you would like to “own” and the select an artist from outside the top 32 you would like to “own”. Please note that you must submit a list of eight songs that you would like to use for the artist’s matchups. Make sure they are listed in order (i.e. song 1 will be used for the artist’s first match up). You are allowed to change the list up to 1 day before each match up starts. If you fail to submit a list within a week, the artist will be available to the public again.

Here are the top 32 artists:
The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Radiohead, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, The Who, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, The Beach Boys, The Velvet Underground, Marvin Gaye, R.E.M., U2, The Clash, Neil Young, Nirvana, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd, Bob Marley, Elvis Costello, The Smiths, Talking Heads, Aretha Franklin, Van Morrison, The Byrds, Public Enemy, The Doors, The Kinks, James Brown

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Feel free to ask me any questions you have.
I will do the honors of drafting Jimi Hendrix.
I will chose my non-32 artist at a later time.
Here's my list for Jimi:
1- Fire
2- Crosstown Traffice
3- Foxy Lady
4- Little Wing
5- Hey Joe
6- Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
7- Purple Haze
8- All Along the Watchtower

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'd like the Heads please!

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Zorg
I'd like the Heads please!

You can also take any artist outside the top 32 if you want.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy
Feel free to ask me any questions you have.


Do we have to make the 8 songs we choose for an arist public? Can't we email the list to you instead? Just asking because I think part of the fun would be if the songs are actually a surprise.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

PS: I'd like U2 and Kanye West please.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Dan M
Do we have to make the 8 songs we choose for an arist public? Can't we email the list to you instead? Just asking because I think part of the fun would be if the songs are actually a surprise.

The reason I'm making them public would be for strategy. If some emailed me while others posted them, those who emailed them would have an advantage.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy
Dan M
Do we have to make the 8 songs we choose for an arist public? Can't we email the list to you instead? Just asking because I think part of the fun would be if the songs are actually a surprise.

The reason I'm making them public would be for strategy. If some emailed me while others posted them, those who emailed them would have an advantage.


Fair enough. I guess strategy makes things more interesting. Do I get to go straight through to the next round because I'm managing Kanye West and Bono (come on, it can't get more difficult than that). Just kidding, obviously. I will post my 8 songs for both shortly.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Must all the songs be from the same album or not? Cause I remember it began as an albums game and it would be interesting to choose which 8 songs from your album would you pick, and in which order.
Besides, I also agree that it would be better if we send the songs in secrecy, even because the other way the first ones to send the songs will be in disadvantage.

Edit: Saw your responses, and, yes, I agree that with strategy things become interesting.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Bob Marley and Depeche Mode please.

Bob Marley
1. Sun Is Shining (1971 version)
2. No Woman No Cry
3. Caution
4. Get Up Stand Up
5. Concrete Jungle
6. Natural Mystic
7. Duppy Conqueror (1970 version)
8. War

Depeche Mode
1. Oberkorn (It's a Small Town) - Development Mix
2. The Great Outdoors!
3. Dangerous
4. Now This Is Fun
5. Christmas Island
6. But Not Tonight
7. In Your Memory
8. Shout

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Toni
Must all the songs be from the same album or not? Cause I remember it began as an albums game and it would be interesting to choose which 8 songs from your album would you pick, and in which order.
Besides, I also agree that it would be better if we send the songs in secrecy, even because the other way the first ones to send the songs will be in disadvantage.

Edit: Saw your responses, and, yes, I agree that with strategy things become interesting.

All the songs do not have to come from the same album.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

i'd like Neil Young and The Cure! but i'm flexible if somebody else reeeeally wants either of those. i'll post songs when i get a chance

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

U2
1. Sunday Bloody Sunday
2. Where the Streets Have No Name
3. Desire
4. Beautiful Day
5. One
6. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
7. Pride (In the Name of Love)
8. With or Without You

Kanye West
1. Slow Jamz
2. All of the Lights
3. Through the Wire
4. Monster
5. Gold Digger
6. Power
7. Jesus Walks
8. Runaway

Edit: I've added One and taken out Mysterious Ways. Can't believe I forgot that. Must be going crazier than I thought.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Bob Dylan and Tom Waits

Bob Dylan

1. Tangled Up In Blue
2. Ballad Of A Thin Man
3. Subterranean Homesick Blues
4. Hurricane
5. Tears Of Rage
6. Positively 4th Street
7. Like A Rolling Stone
8. All Along The Watchtower

Waits songs later.

How long do I have to post songs? Dylan is easy enough but I don't know all the song names of my favorite Waits songs.

Can you tell us a little more about the structure of the game? Are 1-3 for the group phase, then 4-8 for the rounds of 32, 16, 8, 4, 2 respective?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

BillAdama
How long do I have to post songs? Dylan is easy enough but I don't know all the song names of my favorite Waits songs.

Can you tell us a little more about the structure of the game? Are 1-3 for the group phase, then 4-8 for the rounds of 32, 16, 8, 4, 2 respective?

You have a week to post the list. You may also change it up until one day before the match up is set to start. You may also change it from week to week.
After the "pool round", it goes 32-16-8-4-2.

Also, a question for the masses: should I make the pool round 3 weeks (with 32 matches each week) or 6 weeks (with 16 matches each week?)

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'll take Arcade Fire and Springsteen.

I probably like Dave Matthews more than AF, but I feel that would be like picking a 16-seed in an NCAA Tournament pool. The Beatles carry too much pressure, and I'm convinced they will be defeated no matter once. The only other Top 32 I like more than Bruce is Radiohead, and I shouldn't be their manager - three of my four favorites are Planet Telex, Airbag, and There There and surely there's a better fit for them out there. Plus Bruce is hot on this board right now after finishing second in Survivor.

P.S. The competitiveness that this adds to the game is fantastic. I did a little brainstorming about how to fit ownership into the divisions game, but I'm struggling. I do know that it would be great, though, if someone figured out how.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Arcade Fire:
1. Rebellion (Lies)
2. Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)
3. Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)
4. Keep the Car Running
5. The Suburbs
6. Intervention
7. Half Light II (No Celebration)
8. Ready to Start

Bruce Springsteen:
1. Born to Run
2. Darkness on the Edge of Town
3. I'm on Fire
4. The River
5. Atlantic City
6. Jungleland
7. Thunder Road
8. Meeting Across the River

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Can I put my name down for Prince and Eurythmics?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

For the favs, I too wanted to take radiohead, but too much pressure to pick the right 8. I thought about Prince, but c'mon, I think we all know who should have Prince. How about THE SMITHS:

1. How Soon Is Now
2. William, It Was Really Nothing
3. Bigmouth Strikes Again
4. Girlfriend In A Coma
5. Hand In Glove
6. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
7. What Difference Does It Make
8. Panic

AS for the non-32, someone put dibs on The Cure. The forum seems to be lacking in one of my top-5, NINE INCH NAILS...

1. Head Like A Hole
2. Dead Souls
3. Hurt
4. The Perfect Drug
5. Down In It
6. Closer
7. The Hand That Feeds
8. Something I Can Never Have

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Throwing my hat into the ring for the Kinks and...

(so many to choose from...)

... Otis Redding!

Song choices to come.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Much doubt if'd run with R.E.M or Elvis Costello, but today I pick R.E.M.

Later I choose my non-32 one.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Radiohead and Boards of Canada please.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Team 1
Radiohead:
1. Karma Police
2. Street Spirit (Fade Out)
3. Everything in it's Right Place
4. Paranoid Android
5. Reckoner
6. Pyramid Song
7. Idioteque
8. Codex

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Team 2
Boards of Canada:
1. Roygbiv
2. Julie and Candy
3. Dayvan Cowboy
4. Everything You Do Is a Balloon
5. Happy Cycling
6. Music is Math
7. Peacock Tail
8. Sixtyten

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Toni
Much doubt if'd run with R.E.M or Elvis Costello, but today I pick R.E.M.

Later I choose my non-32 one.


I'd rather take 2 non-32 artists (Elliott Smith and LCD Soundsystem), so I guess we can find a solution here ^^

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Nassim
Toni
Much doubt if'd run with R.E.M or Elvis Costello, but today I pick R.E.M.

Later I choose my non-32 one.


I'd rather take 2 non-32 artists (Elliott Smith and LCD Soundsystem), so I guess we can find a solution here ^^

As long as TOni agrees, I'm fine.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Team Heads

1. The Great Curve
2. The Book I Read
3. The Big Country
4. Psycho Killer
5. Once In A Lifetime
6. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
7. Burning Down The House
8. Don't Worry About The Government


Team Kraftwerk

1. Das Modell
2. Radioactivitat
3. Die Roboter (The Robots)
4. Trans-Europa Express (the whole thing as one, if possible)
5. Taschenrechner (Pocket Calculator)
6. Europa Endlos (Europe Endless)
7. Autobahn
8. Die Mensch-Maschine (The Man Machine)

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'll go ahead an draft the home teams: Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Songs to come later.

It might be a good idea to update who's been taken once in a while.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Zorg
4. Trans-Europa Express (the whole thing as one, if possible)
Do you mean including "Metal on Metal" and "Abzug"? IMO, that's the weakest moment on any Kraftwerk album between '75 and '86.

Other than that, that team is a winner!

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I would like to make teams for the Beach Boys and Wilco. The latter band is not really well known for their songs, so this calls for strategy.

Team Beach Boys
1. I Get Around
2. Heroes And Villains
3. Tears In The Morning
4. Don't Worry Baby
5. Wouldn't It Be Nice
6. Sloop John B.
7. Good Vibrations
8. God Only Knows

Team Wilco
1. The Late Greats
2. Impossible Germany
3. What's The World Got In Store
4. Handshake Drugs
5. Heavy Metal Drummer
6. A Shot In The Arm
7. Can't Stand It
8. Jesus, Etc.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'm going with Fela Kuti and Betty Davis.

Fela Kuti:
1. Water No Get Enemy
2. Colonial Mentality
3. Coffin for Head of State
4. Confusion
5. Shuffering and Shmiling
6. Expensive Shit
7. Roforofo Fight
8. Zombie

Betty Davis:
1. Dedicated To The Press
2. Anti Love Song
3. If I'm In Luck I Might Get Picked Up
4. F.U.N.K.
5. He Was A Big Freak
6. Nasty Gal
7. Talkin' Trash
8. You and I

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Stephan
I'm going with Fela Kuti and Betty Davis.

Uhh..neither of them are in the top 32.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Rocky Raccoon
I'll go ahead an draft the home teams: Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Songs to come later.

It might be a good idea to update who's been taken once in a while.


Nirvana songs
1. Serve the Servants
2. About a Girl
3. The Man Who Sold the World
4. Heart-Shaped Box
5. On a Plain
6. Smells Like Teen Spirit
7. Come As You Are
8. All Apologies

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Rocky Raccoon
[It might be a good idea to update who's been taken once in a while.

Here's a list of the pools for the "A" League and their status:

Pool A.1
The Beatles
U2 (Dan M)
The Clash
James Brown

Pool A.2
The Rolling Stones
R.E.M. (Toni)
Neil Young (Greg)
The Kinks (Schwah)

Pool A.3
Bob Dylan (Biladama)
Marvin Gaye
Nirvana (Rocky Raccoon)
The Doors

Pool A.4
David Bowie
The Velvet Underground
Stevie Wonder
Public Enemy

Pool A.5
Led Zeppelin
The Beach Boys (Andre)
Pink Floyd
The Byrds

Pool A.6
Radiohead (Gillingham)
Jimi Hendrix (Listyguy)
Bob Marley (Henrik)
Van Morrison

Pool A.7
Prince (Moonbeam)
Elvis Presley
Elvis Costello
Aretha Franklin

Pool A.8
Bruce Springsteen (Drewcannon3)
The Who
The Smiths (Slick)
Talking Heads (Zorg)

And artists that have been taken that will be in the "B" League:
-Otis Redding (Schwah)
-Tom Waits (Biladama)
-The Cure (Greg)
=-Kanye West (Dan M)
-Arcade Fire (Drewcannon)
-Depeche Mode (Henrik)
-Nine Inch Nail (Slick)
-Eurythmics (Moonbeam)
-Boards of Canada (Gillingham)
-Kraftwerk (Zorg)
-Wilco (Andre)
-Pearl Jam (Rocky Raccoon)

Certain others have been drafted uncertainly.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I should really start reading things more carefully. I'll go with Fela for outside the top 32 and The Rolling Stones for inside.

1. Sympathy For The Devil
2. Jumpin' Jack Flash
3. Tumbling Dice
4. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
5. Let It Loose
6. Paint It, Black
7. You Can't Always Get What You Want
8. Gimme Shelter

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy, thanks for the pool setup and overview so far!

Just out of curiosity this process question:

What schedule are you gonna use for the finals? Is that the same or similar schedule as used in the last soccer world cups? The nice thing about using that schedule is, that artists qualifying from the same pool can meet each other again, but not earlier than the bracket final.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Henrik
Zorg
4. Trans-Europa Express (the whole thing as one, if possible)
Do you mean including "Metal on Metal" and "Abzug"? IMO, that's the weakest moment on any Kraftwerk album between '75 and '86.

Other than that, that team is a winner!


Of course! I think the three parts are meant to be listened to together. I think it's a fine centrepiece to a wonderful album. I thought the only reason they split the song up was because of time limits to a side of an LP.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'll take Public Enemy and Brian Eno. Song choices to come later.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Andre
Just out of curiosity this process question:

What schedule are you gonna use for the finals? Is that the same or similar schedule as used in the last soccer world cups? The nice thing about using that schedule is, that artists qualifying from the same pool can meet each other again, but not earlier than the bracket final.

Yes. How it owuld go is:
1st place in A.1 vs. 2nd place in A.2
1st place in A.8 vs. 2nd place in A.7
1st place in A.5 vs. 2nd place in A.6
1st plave in A.4 vs. 2nd place in A.3
1st place in A.3 vs. 2nd plave in A.4
1st place in A.6 vs. 2nd place in A.5
1st place in A.7 vs. 2nd place in A.8
1st place in A.2 vs. 2nd place in A.1

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy
Andre
Just out of curiosity this process question:

What schedule are you gonna use for the finals? Is that the same or similar schedule as used in the last soccer world cups? The nice thing about using that schedule is, that artists qualifying from the same pool can meet each other again, but not earlier than the bracket final.

Yes. How it owuld go is:
1st place in A.1 vs. 2nd place in A.2
1st place in A.8 vs. 2nd place in A.7
1st place in A.5 vs. 2nd place in A.6
1st plave in A.4 vs. 2nd place in A.3
1st place in A.3 vs. 2nd plave in A.4
1st place in A.6 vs. 2nd place in A.5
1st place in A.7 vs. 2nd place in A.8
1st place in A.2 vs. 2nd place in A.1


Great!

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

The strongest song should be at #8 right?

David Bowie/New Order for me I guess...

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Now that we know the groups the question is: which is the famed Group of Death?

The Bowie, VU, Wonder, PE group feels like (with all due respect to Chuck D) the Brazil, Portugal, Cote d'Ivoire, North Korea group. Could Flava Flav give the Thin White Duke a scare, like the North Koreans did to Brazil last year?

But I think my Kinks are in the strongest overall group, with the Stones, R.E.M., and Neil Young. Make it in 2d place out of that group, and then you've got to play Spain... I mean the Beatles. Hence my (to mix sports metaphors horribly) very strong clean-up hitter.

My Kinks lineup:

1. You Really Got Me
2. Shangri-La
3. Sunny Afternoon
4. Waterloo Sunset
5. Days
6. Celluloid Heroes
7. David Watts
8. Lola

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'll take The Beatles and my under 32 selection is Chuck Berry.

Here are the songs.

The Beatles:
1. For No One
2. A Hard Day's Night
3. The Golden Slumbers Medley
4. Eleanor Rigby
5. In My Life
6. Tomorrow Never Knows
7. Strawberry Fields Forever
8. A Day In The Life

Chuck Berry:
1. Back In The U.S.A.
2. Memphis, Tennessee
3. Sweet Little Sixteen
4. School Days
5. Rock And Roll Music
6. Roll Over Beethoven
7. Maybellene
8. Johnny B. Goode

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Great pick with For No One, one of Mccartney's few slow dirgy songs that work in my opinion. People talk about Hey Jude and Let It Be, two songs I downright dislike, and then people ignore real songs like this.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

When it comes to The Beatles I am about 60/40 on songs I love/Hate. I am glad to see that the 8 songs for Team Beatles are songs I really like. Though songs like Hey Jude, Yesterday, Yellow Submarine, Let It Be would have made it easier to vote aginst them!!!

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

It as very difficult to decide the correct songs, but I'm proud of my selection, I hope that I've made ​​the right decision.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'm already really enjoying this game!

Nassim, do you mind if I continue picking a non-32 artist? I like the idea of managing a highly acclaimed artist and also other not so "great". So everyone is still free to choose Costello (as long as he puts My Red Shoes in his list... , just kidding of course!).

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Yes, it would be necessary a very accurate Beatles selection, cause, besides the anti-Beatles feeling that will surely appear, U2 has come with one of the best teams of the cup so far!

At least for me it makes no difference about who of them will win, since both are among my faves.

Edit: thinking better, it makes ALL the diference... R.E.M is in the same case that Schwah mentioned for the Kinks...

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I’ll take The Byrds and Arctic Monkeys.

The Byrds

Eight Miles High
So You Want to Be a Rock ‘n’ Roll Star
I’ll Feel a Whole Lot Better
My Back Pages
Mr. Tambourine Man
The Bells of Rhymney
Hickory Wind
Turn! Turn! Turn!

Arctic Monkeys

Mardy Bum
I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor
Cornerstone
A Certain Romance
She’s Thunderstorms
Fluorescent Adolescent
View from the Afternoon
Fake Tales of San Francisco

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

David Bowie
1.Ashes To Ashes
2.Space Oddity
3.Under Pressure
4.Starman
5.Changes
6.Ziggy Stardust
7.Life On Mars?
8."Heroes"

New Order
1.Regret
2.True Faith
3.Crystal
4.Age Of Consent
5.Ceremony
6.Temptation
7.Bizarre Love Triangle
8.Blue Monday

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Anyone else interested in picking 2 top 32 artists so I can pick LCD and Elliott Smith ?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Midaso
The strongest song should be at #8 right?

If that is your strategy, then yes. The #8 song would be the one used if the artist makes it to the finals.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'm taking the King (of Pop) and the Queen (of Soul).

My choices are Aretha Franklin and Michael Jackson.

Songs lists to follow.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Midaso
David Bowie
1.Ashes To Ashes
2.Space Oddity
3.Under Pressure
4.Starman
5.Changes
6.Ziggy Stardust
7.Life On Mars?
8."Heroes"

New Order
1.Regret
2.True Faith
3.Crystal
4.Age Of Consent
5.Ceremony
6.Temptation
7.Bizarre Love Triangle
8.Blue Monday



Wow! I considered both of these artists and I would have had 15 out of 16 songs. (probably would have pulled a deep track off Tecnique instead of Temptation). Nice work, I am excited about this game.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Schwah

My Kinks lineup:

1. You Really Got Me
2. Shangri-La
3. Sunny Afternoon
4. Waterloo Sunset
5. Days
6. Celluloid Heroes
7. David Watts
8. Lola


Good choices, mine would have been as such (obviously the Kinks would have been my selection had you not picked them):

You Really Got Me
Sunny Afternoon
Days
Waterloo Sunset
The Village Green Preservation Society
Shangri-La
This Time Tomorrow
20th Century Man

That gives you one track each from their classic run of albums, plus two strong singles.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Ok, I need to redo my teams so that they're in a good order (I just realised this now)

Team Heads

1. The Big Country
2. Burning Down The House
3. The Great Curve
4. Don't Worry About The Government
5. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
6. The Book I Read
7. Psycho Killer
8. Once In A Lifetime

Team Kraftwerk

1. Taschenrechner (Pocket Calculator)
2. Europa Endlos (Europe Endless)
3. Die Roboter (The Robots)
4. Die Mensch Maschine (The Man Machine)
5. Radioactivitat
6. Das Modell
7. Trans Europa Express
8. Autobahn
4.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Nassim
Anyone else interested in picking 2 top 32 artists so I can pick LCD and Elliott Smith ?
The odds are there will not be 32 "Managers" available. So, you will most likely get to pick a third artist later on. So, for now, you could take one in the top 32 and one outside it, and then when I allow users to "draft" a third artist, you could take the other.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy, you might already have explained some of this, but I have a couple more questions:

1) Until when can we still change our current lists before the world cup starts?

2) Can the list of 8 songs still be changed during the cup by exchanging a song with another one outside the list? My guess would be "no", but just checking.

3) You write that during the cup you can still change your team up to one day before the match. How does that exactly work? Let's say two matches have been played, does it mean that the list with songs 3 to 8 can still be mixed up completely? My guess here would be "yes", but I am anxiously awaiting your answer.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Andre
Until when can we still change our current lists before the world cup starts?

You will be allowed to change it up until a day before the matchup starts
Andre
2) Can the list of 8 songs still be changed during the cup by exchanging a song with another one outside the list? My guess would be "no", but just checking.

Yes, it can. The new list just can't include a song that's already competed.
Andre
You write that during the cup you can still change your team up to one day before the match. How does that exactly work? Let's say two matches have been played, does it mean that the list with songs 3 to 8 can still be mixed up completely? My guess here would be "yes", but I am anxiously awaiting your answer.

Yes.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Thanks for your quick answer to my questions. So it really will become a strategy game!

Listyguy
Also, a question for the masses: should I make the pool round 3 weeks (with 32 matches each week) or 6 weeks (with 16 matches each week?)


And to answer one of your questions in return: My first preference was to make the pool round 3 weeks instead of 6, so that every artist gets to play each week. But that would mean everybody needs to listen to 64 songs and vote 32 times each week ... so now at second thought ... maybe 16 matches each week will be enough. I would like simultaneous pool matches, so over the 6 weeks it would best to alternate the 2 brackets.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon
I'll go ahead an draft the home teams: Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Songs to come later.

It might be a good idea to update who's been taken once in a while.


Nirvana songs
1. Serve the Servants
2. About a Girl
3. The Man Who Sold the World
4. Heart-Shaped Box
5. On a Plain
6. Smells Like Teen Spirit
7. Come As You Are
8. All Apologies


Pearl Jam songs
1. Last Kiss
2. Corduroy
3. Black
4. Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
5. Nothing Man
6. Alive
7. Wishlist
8. Better Man

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

If we can still change our songs up to the date of the actual match, I'll just throw out some Tom Waits song names so I don't lose the reservation.

1. Walking Spanish (This is my actual first match pick)
2. Singapore (The rest are placeholders until I have a chance to re-listen to my favorite Waits albums)
3. Clap Hands
4. Cemetary Polka
5. Jockey Full Of Bourbon
6. Tango Till They're Sore
7. Big Black Mariah
8. Diamonds & Gold

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

My non-top 32 pick is none other than my favorite artist of all time, Queen.
Here's my list:
1- Another One Bites the Dust
2- Keep Yourself Alive
3- We Will Rock You
4- We Are the Champions
5- Killer Queen
6- Under Pressure
7- You're My Best Friend
8- Bohemian Rhapsody

This will change for sure once I know who they will be facing in the pool round.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Jackson
Schwah

My Kinks lineup:

1. You Really Got Me
2. Shangri-La
3. Sunny Afternoon
4. Waterloo Sunset
5. Days
6. Celluloid Heroes
7. David Watts
8. Lola


Good choices, mine would have been as such (obviously the Kinks would have been my selection had you not picked them):

You Really Got Me
Sunny Afternoon
Days
Waterloo Sunset
The Village Green Preservation Society
Shangri-La
This Time Tomorrow
20th Century Man

That gives you one track each from their classic run of albums, plus two strong singles.


Sorry to grab it before you, Jackson. I got excited about trying to manage a "#4 seed" and the Kinks seemed like the most fun.

I'm sure everybody who has picked their lineup has got a "second team" of fave tracks that they think are just as strong. Gotta play to the crowd though, and not just go with personal favorites. I now realize I didn't include anything from the Kinks' most acclaimed album, though, so I'm glad that we can make some changes.

Struggling with my Redding line-up, but I'll get a placeholder in right now:

1. I've Been Loving You Too Long
2. These Arms of Mine
3. Hard to Handle
4. Try a Little Tenderness
5. Satisfaction
6. Mr. Pitiful
7. Pain in My Heart
8. (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

How is it that we should pick 8 songs if we're using the same format as the World Cup, where the max is 7 matches for one team?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Alex D
How is it that we should pick 8 songs if we're using the same format as the World Cup, where the max is 7 matches for one team?

That's because we have two tournaments running in parallel (1 bracket for top 32 AM and 1 bracket for non-top 32 AM). The winners of the 2 brackets will meet in the big final and that's the additional 8th match.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

^What he said.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Wouldn't the result of that final be a bit...inevitable? It would be like the Uefa Super Cup (where you can have matches like Shaktar Donetsk vs Barcelona) except worse.

And also, Dan M's Kanye West team looks magnificent.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

You never know, it all depends on song choice.
Speaking of song choice, i have here a list of lists I haven't recieved yet:
-Greg (I need 2)
-Moonbeam (I need 2)
-Toni (I need 1 and a non-top 32 choice)
-Jackson (I need 2)
-Alex D (I need 2)

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy

-Toni (I need 1 and a non-top 32 choice)


Well, here's my R.E.M lineup!

1 - Drive
2 - Stand
3 - Orange Crush
4 - Man On the Moon
5 - Nightswimming
6 - It's the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine)
7 - Radio Free Europe
8 - Losing My Religion

My non-32 is coming soon. I'm in doubt among 4-5 artists...

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Can I take Led Zeppelin?

1. Black Dog
2. The Ocean
3. When the Levee Breaks
4. Dazed and Confused
5. Rock and Roll
6. Whole Lotta Love
7. Kashmir
8. Stairway to Heaven

And for my other artist, Blur?

1. The Universal
2. Tender
3. Coffee and TV
4. This is a Low
5. Out of Time
6. For Tomorrow
7. Girls and Boys
8. Song 2

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Tentative lineups for Prince and Eurythmics, likely to change.

I've posted some youtube links to prove that these are real song titles. Due to their rarity, many don't have links, sadly!

Prince:

1. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
2. Bliss
3. The Dance Electric
4. Old Friends 4 Sale
5. Neon Telephone
6. Lisa
7. Chocolate
8. Moonbeam Levels

Eurythmics:

1. Beethoven (I Love to Listen to)
2. You Take Some Lentils... And You Take Some Rice
3. Monkey, Monkey
4. See No Evil
5. Le Sinistre
6. Grown Up Girls
7. Invisible Hands
8. Step on the Beast

What, you think I'm going to show my hand this early on?

Bonus points for anyone who actually seeks these out, though.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Michael Jackson:

1. "Ben"
2. "Greatest Show on Earth"
3. "People Make the World Go 'Round"
4. "We've Got a Good Thing Going"
5. "Everybody's Somebody's Fool"
6. "My Girl"
7. "What Goes Around Comes Around"
8. "In Our Small Way"

Aretha Franklin:

1. "Won't Be Long"
2. "Over The Rainbow"
3. "Love Is The Only Thing"
4. "Sweet Lover"
5. "All Night Long"
6. "Who Needs You?"
7. "Right Now"
8. "Are You Sure"

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Love your lists, Moonbeam.
Alex D, which set of lists are you using? The ones in this thred or the ones in the Time For New All Time Poll Thread?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Listyguy
Alex D, which set of lists are you using? The ones in this thred or the ones in the Time For New All Time Poll Thread?


So that's what happened to them!

I'm keeping the ones in this thread, though they will of course be changed. The ones I have now are just a placeholder.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Any of the top 32 left?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

This is who's left from the top 32, Brad:

The Who, Elvis Presley, The Velvet Underground, Marvin Gaye, The Clash, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd, Elvis Costello, Van Morrison, The Doors, James Brown

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Thanks schwah... If it's ok, I'll take the velvet underground and the replacements. Lists tomorrow.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Thanks, Nick, for picking Blur!
After having discarded many artists, they were the only one I didn't have courage of not picking, due to the risk of nobody else chosing them, while on the other hand there were about 25 songs of theirs that I'd like to put in the lineup, being many of them not much acclaimed tracks...
And great team this one you scaled, although I still think my fave, Parklife, could play a good role in the game, heheh.
I wouldn't have helped myself not chosing Jubilee, Country House, Stereotypes, and would be painful to retire Star Shaped, Death of a Party, and so many others...

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Toni
Thanks, Nick, for picking Blur!
After having discarded many artists, they were the only one I didn't have courage of not picking, due to the risk of nobody else chosing them, while on the other hand there were about 25 songs of theirs that I'd like to put in the lineup, being many of them not much acclaimed tracks...
And great team this one you scaled, although I still think my fave, Parklife, could play a good role in the game, heheh.
I wouldn't have helped myself not chosing Jubilee, Country House, Stereotypes, and would be painful to retire Star Shaped, Death of a Party, and so many others...


Thanks! I'm glad that you like the team I've picked! There were a lot of songs that I really wish that I could have put in, such as "Parklife", "Country House", "Chemical World", "Beetlebum", and about a dozen others.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I thought of making a Stone Roses selection all with songs from their debut, but, no, I'll go with Coldplay:

1 - Lovers In Japan
2 - Trouble
3 - The Scientist
4 - Everything's Not Lost
5 - Viva La Vida
6 - Clocks
7 - In My Place
8 - Yellow

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

I'll take The Who and Steely Dan.

The Who
1 - Behind Blue Eyes
2 - We Won't Get Fooled Again
3 - Pinball Wizard
4 - Love, Reign O'er Me
5 - I Can See For Miles
6 - We're Not Gonna Take It
7 - The Real Me
8 - Baba O'Riley

Steely Dan
1 - Don't Take Me Alive
2 - Doctor Wu
3 - My Old School
4 - Kid Charlemagne
5 - Aja
6 - Rikki Don't Lose That Number
7 - Parker's Band
8 - Reelin' In the Years

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Neil Young

1 Tell Me Why
2 Albuquerque
3 Cortez the Killer
4 Old Man
5 Powderfinger
6 White Line
7 Red Sun
8 The Losing End (When You're On)

The Cure

1 Play for Today
2 Just Like Heaven
3 Lullaby
4 Push
5 Love Song
6 Charlotte Sometimes
7 Plainsong
8 A Short Term Effect

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Is anyone else planning to join? If Nassim decides to take part, we will have 24 managers. We would need 8 more. If we do not get these managers by the middle of next week, I will allow for managers to take on a third team.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Are third choices going to be first come, first serve, or will you do some kind of lottery?

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

BillAdama
Are third choices going to be first come, first serve, or will you do some kind of lottery?
I suppose I should do it by lottery. All I have to do now is think of one...

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

The Velvet Underground:
1. Rock and Roll
2. All Tomorrow's Parties
3. Sweet Jane
4. I'm Waiting For The Man
5. Sunday Morning
6. Heroin
7. Pale Blue Eyes
8. Sister Ray

The Replacements:
1. Bastards Of Young
2. Color Me Impressed
3. Alex Chilton
4. Unsatisfied
5. I Will Dare
6. I'll Be You
7. Left Of The Dial
8. Skyway

Thanks!

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Well, on the top 32 I could have managed Radiohead and the Beatles, maybe Nirvana, but I don't see any other artist I enjoy and/or know enough to make a selection.

So here is my first non top 32 selection, hoping to be allowed to make another one :

LCD Soundsystem :

1. Big Ideas
2. Get innocuous
3. All I Want
4. Someone great
5. All my friends
6. You Wanted a Hit
7. North american scum
8. Losing my edge


I see that some of you have put the most beloved songs on the first round to be sure to reach the following rounds, other have kept the songs most likely to get a lot of votes for later rounds, so it's hard to pick the right order to face you, especially not knowing with bands LCD will face.
I also see that some have picked songs most likely to win while other have picked their personal favorites, I have tried a mix of both, leaving only one of my top 5 out (Great Release)and including "All I Want" which I don't like that much.
Making the choice of which song I would keep between North American Scum, Movement and Tribulations has not been easy either.

Re: AMF World Cup (Drafting Thread)

Nassim
Well, on the top 32 I could have managed Radiohead and the Beatles, maybe Nirvana, but I don't see any other artist I enjoy and/or know enough to make a selection.
You don't like The Clash, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, The Doors, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd, Van Morrison, Elvis Presley, or Elvis Costello?