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Zorg, did you enter ranks or points?
Division 1
4p Bob Dylan
3p The Rolling Stones
2p David Bowie
1p The Beatles
Division 2:1
4p Bruce Springsteen
3p Led Zeppelin
2p The Beach Boys
1p The Who
Division 2:2
4p Radiohead
3p Jimi Hendrix
2p Elvis Presley
1p Prince
Division 3:1
4p Pink Floyd
3p The Velvet Underground
2p The Byrds
1p Stevie Wonder
Division 3:2
4p Van Morrison
3p Marvin Gaye
2p Nirvana
1p Bob Marley
Division 3:3
4p Neil Young
3p R.E.M.
2p Elvis Costello
1p Aretha Franklin
Division 3:4
4p U2
3p Talking Heads
2p The Clash
1p The Smiths
Division 1
4p The Beatles
3p Bob Dylan
2p The Rolling Stones
1p David Bowie
Division 2:1
4p Bruce Springsteen
3p Led Zeppelin
2p The Who
1p The Beach Boys
Division 2:2
4p Radiohead
3p Prince
2p Jimi Hendrix
1p Elvis Presley
Division 3:1
4p The Velvet Underground
3p Pink Floyd
2p Stevie Wonder
1p The Byrds
Division 3:2
4p Marvin Gaye
3p Van Morrison
2p Nirvana
1p Bob Marley
Division 3:3
4p R.E.M.
3p Neil Young
2p Elvis Costello
1p Aretha Franklin
Division 3:4
4p The Smiths
3p U2
2p The Clash
1p Talking Heads
I think it would be cool if the divisions were broken up by genre. Obviously, nobody would agree about the breakdowns, but the breakdowns would be close enough that it would add something.
Using just these:
Soul Division: Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Prince
Classic Rock Division: Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Beatles, Pink Floyd
Folk Division: Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Radiohead
Punk Division: The Velvet Underground, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Nirvana
New Wave Division: The Smiths, Talking Heads, U2, David Bowie
Roots Rock Division: The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, R.E.M., Bruce Springsteen
Beach Music Division: The Beach Boys, Bob Marley, The Byrds, Jimi Hendrix
Marley and Radiohead are too different from the rest ("Beach Music"? Really?) for the genres to really click, but if the number were expanded (or even set in order to make the divisions make sense), I think the typical votes would be more interesting. It's always more fun to compare Aretha to Gaye than Aretha to the Flaming Lips.
Division 1
4p Bob Dylan
3p The Rolling Stones
2p David Bowie
1p The Beatles
Division 2:1
4p Bruce Springsteen
3p Led Zeppelin
2p The Who
1p The Beach Boys
Division 2:2
4p Prince
3p Jimi Hendrix
2p Radiohead
1p Elvis Presley
Division 3:1
4p Stevie Wonder
3p The Velvet Underground
2p Pink Floyd
1p The Byrds
Division 3:2
4p Van Morrison
3p Marvin Gaye
2p Bob Marley
1p Nirvana
Division 3:3
4p Elvis Costello
3p Neil Young
2p Aretha Franklin
1p R.E.M.
Division 3:4
4p The Smiths
3p The Clash
2p Talking Heads
1p U2
Except that the point of this game is relegation and promotion. We need a top division and lower divisions, and which genre gets to be the "premier league"? And once the first round was done, all the genres would get jumbled anyway.
Roots Rock Division: R.E.M.
Beach Music Division: Jimi Hendrix
Three good reasons to can the genre division idea. (Really though? HENDRIX as BEACH MUSIC???????)
Using just these:
Soul Division: Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Prince
Classic Rock Division: Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Beatles, Pink Floyd
Folk Division: Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Radiohead
Punk Division: The Velvet Underground, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Nirvana
New Wave Division: The Smiths, Talking Heads, U2, David Bowie
Roots Rock Division: The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, R.E.M., Bruce Springsteen
Beach Music Division: The Beach Boys, Bob Marley, The Byrds, Jimi Hendrix
Marley and Radiohead are too different from the rest ("Beach Music"? Really?) for the genres to really click, but if the number were expanded (or even set in order to make the divisions make sense), I think the typical votes would be more interesting. It's always more fun to compare Aretha to Gaye than Aretha to the Flaming Lips.
Oddly, I've been playing with something similar for a project I have in mind. Strict genre division is quite a bear, and I doubt we could ever come up with divisions that everyone is happy with. But I think I may have come up with a workable solution.
(Yes, the mad scientist bug may have bitten me again...I have a lot of wrinkles to iron out, but I may have come up with an album "tournament." Stay tuned. Heh heh...)
Sorry, rank (i.e. Dylan gets 4 points). Should have read the rules
Roots Rock Division: R.E.M.
Beach Music Division: Jimi Hendrix
Three good reasons to can the genre division idea. (Really though? HENDRIX as BEACH MUSIC???????)
There's a reason I made fun of myself for those divisions.
Although if you don't think listening to Hendrix on the beach is awesome, you should try it again.
Looks like I was confused about the rules anyway, so this is moot, but I would be interested in a game that went from specific genres to a final.
D1
Bob Dylan
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
David Bowie
D2:1
The Who
Bruce Springsteen
Led Zeppelin
The Beach Boys
D2:2
Radiohead
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley
Prince
D3:1
The Velvet Underground
The Byrds
Pink Floyd
Stevie Wonder
D3:2
Van Morrison
Nirvana
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
D3:3
Neil Young
R.E.M.
Elvis Costello
Aretha Franklin
D3:4
Talking Heads
U2
The Clash
The Smiths
Nice game idea.
Suggestions (I'm just brainstorming here):
1. Make divisions a bit bigger, like e.g. 8 artists? 2 artists would go up, 4 would go down. Points can be as is, so from 4 down to 1, 4 artists don't get points.
2. To replace the 8 (or 16 for bigger divisions) artists that will leave Division 3, nominate 8 (or 16) artists from a pool of 32 (or 64)?
Division 1
4p The Beatles
3p Bob Dylan
2p The Rolling Stones
1p David Bowie
Division 2:1
4p The Beach Boys
3p Bruce Springsteen
2p The Who
1p Led Zeppelin
Division 2:2
4p Radiohead
3p Jimi Hendrix
2p Prince
1p Elvis Presley
Division 3:1
4p The Byrds
3p The Velvet Underground
2p Stevie Wonder
1p Pink Floyd
Division 3:2
4p Van Morrison
3p Bob Marley
2p Nirvana
1p Marvin Gaye
Division 3:3
4p R.E.M.
3p Neil Young
2p Elvis Costello
1p Aretha Franklin
Division 3:4
4p Talking Heads
3p U2
2p The Smiths
1p The Clash
Will this game continue? If so, this is my vote:
Division 1
4p - The Beatles
3p - The Rolling Stones
2p - Bob Dylan
1p - David Bowie
Division 2:1
4p - Bruce Springsteen
3p - The Beach Boys
2p - The Who
1p - Led Zeppelin
Division 2:2
4p - Prince
3p - Radiohead
2p - Elvis Presley
1p - Jimi Hendrix
Division 3:1
4p - Stevie Wonder
3p - The Byrds
2p - The Velvet Underground
1p - Pink Floyd
Division 3:2 - the weakest group
4p - Nirvana
3p - Marvin Gaye
2p - Bob Marley
1p - Van Morrison
Division 3:3: having to decide between R.E.M or Costello again!
4p - R.E.M.
3p - Elvis Costello
2p - Aretha Franklin
1p - Neil Young
Division 3:4: the strongest group
4p - Talking Heads
3p - U2
2p - The Clash
1p - The Smiths
Results
Division 1
1. The Beatles, 68 points, next season would have been D1
2. Bob Dylan, 63 points, D1
3. The Rolling Stones, 56 points, D2:1
4. David Bowie, 43 points, D2:2
Division 2:1
1. Bruce Springsteen, 71 points, D1
2. Led Zeppelin, 58 points, D2:1
3. The Who, 52 points, D3:1
4. The Beach Boys, 51 points, D3:2
Division 2:2
1. Radiohead, 74 points, D1
2. Prince, 65 points, D2:2
3. Jimi Hendrix, 57 points, D3:3
4. Elvis Presley, 34 points, D3:4
Division 3:1
1. The Velvet Underground, 70 points, D2:1
2. Stevie Wonder, 68 points, D3:1
3. Pink Floyd, 51 points, D4:1
4. The Byrds, 41 points, D4:2
Division 3:2
1. Nirvana, 63 points, D2:1
2. Marvin Gaye, 61 points, D3:2
3. Bob Marley, 54 points, D4:3
4. Van Morrison, 52 points, D4:4
Division 3:3
1. Neil Young, 75 points, D2:2
2. R.E.M., 66 points, D3:3
3. Elvis Costello, 54 points, D4:5
4. Aretha Franklin, 35 points, D4:6
Division 3:4
1. U2, 63 points, D2:2
2. The Smiths, 58 points, D3:4
3. The Clash, 55 points, D4:7
4. Talking Heads, 54 points, D4:8
This game ends here, but hopefully Rocky Raccoon got a few good recommendations from this to his real division game. Thanks everyone for participating!