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I was going to wait until after the 60s list was fully revealed to get this rolling, so here we go...
I know the forum isn't exactly in dire need of new polls or games, but I believe the time is coming to redo what is my favorite event on this or any forum: our cycle of all-time favorite albums, songs, and artists lists. We typically have a two-year wait in between all-time lists, and believe it or not, it's been that long since the last all-time albums poll was underway. Since that `09 poll, we've had many new forum members, but more importantly, it seems as though there has been a lot of change in the tastes of many forum members. I know my lists (which I update pretty consistently) have changed drastically in two years.
What do you guys think about getting this started within the next few months? I officially volunteer to host the albums poll (someone else can handle the beast that is the songs poll). I'm thinking of a similar timeline to what we did last time: albums in the fall and songs in the spring, and then artists following that if there is interest.
I am absolutely up for doing this, Jackson. These are the all-encompassing ones, so few restrictions to worry about.
One thing I would propose is that we don't force the ballots to be secret (though they can be if the submitter chooses). Almost all the fun of it for me is seeing the different lists roll in over time.
I would love to see the new results of a new Top Albums list. Hopefully, I'll have time to contribute to this one.
My goal this summer was to redo both my all-time album and song lists. This would be perfect, especially since I know myself, my musical tastes are constantly evolving and these things change over the course of a couple years.
I'd be up for doing another all-time albums list.
That would be my first all-time album list here on AMF. Looking forward to it!
And I also opt for non-secret voting. I love to watch the lists come in.
I was hoping we could do this again! I only got to do the artists poll last time around.
I would host the artists poll if no one else wants do (I don't dare attempt the songs poll). But, that, won't be for another year or more
This should give me some motivation to work on my albusm list, though.
Wow, I didn't expect such universally positive response.
I was thinking of starting the albums poll in July with a roll-out in September, but if the consensus is to start now, I wouldn't object.
I definitely agree that posting lists in the thread is the most fun way of doing this. On another note, my personal goal is to list 1000 songs and 300 albums (last time I went 400 and 100, but I had listened to so much less).
I can generate an albums list in five seconds, so tell me where to post it and I'll post it. I might wait just a little longer.
I would reiterate, please let the deadline be at least after september, so I have the summer to listen to stuff!
Could we start this in September?? Or at least put the deadline as far as that month? I need some time to put things together in an all time list. I don't have one :p
Concerning the start of the poll: the sooner the better!
Like BillAdama, I can generate a list anytime so just tell me and I'll post on the deadline day (as always)
It looks like people are happy for this poll to start any time soon as long as it stays open until the end of September. Sounds good to me.
Hopefully people will also remember the underrated albums poll . In quite a few posts recently there have been talk of underrated artists and albums. So start voting! The thread is not getting the attention it deserves.
Once I get my all-time album list together I could do the underrated list. It will probably take me a month/month and a half to do my all-time list and then a couple of weeks to do the underrated.
I've begun relistening to my favorite albums to finally construct a full list. I'll probably only submit a top 100, though.
My "summer project" has begun!
Hey Jackson -- what is the maximum albums that will be counted in the tallies? I'll be compiling a list of 500, but want to know which will get points. Also, will it be the usual weighted point system?
One other thing ... I'm going to include some modern classical performances, some released later than the original compositions. I know there is a gray area here, though I doubt these placements will in any way influence the results, so I'm hoping you can humor me.
Ok, I'm thinking of running it starting sometime in the next two weeks and ending at the end of August. That should be plenty of time, and I don't want to extend it any longer for fear of it getting stale.
Also, I will definitely use the same scale that was used for previous song and album polls.
I'm not sure about max albums that should be counted. Anything beyond 200 seems to not affect the poll much while being more work for me, and I doubt many others will post extremely long lists. That being said, if there is demand I would count more, and I'd obviously love to see your full top 500 regardless, sonofsam. I haven't given too much thought to what I should or shouldn't count, but you can definitely include classical performances. Not sure where to draw the line about compilations yet (but I personally want to vote for albums like the Beta Band's 3 EPs. It will probably be a no for things like Singles Going Steady and Substance, though, to me these don't pass the "does it feel like an album" test like the 3 EPs).
Sounds great! AGE OF ADZ for the win!
jackson, take my advice (as the guy who managed the poll in 2009) : be extremely strict about inclusion of non-album records, or else you're opening a pandora box !! That's why I'm not pleading for R. Johnson's King of Delat Blues
We should do this evey year there are no olympic games.
I'm struggling to find a definition of an album that excludes things that definitely shouldn't be eligible (greatest hits comps, EPs, etc.) while including things that probably should be eligible (the Three EPs, Disco Inferno's the 5 EPs, etc.). I feel like sonofsam's definition is a good starting point, but would probably open the door for of compilations by bands with lots of non-album singles (New Order, the Smiths, the Beatles, etc.) Anyone have a suggestion?
@Listyguy I believe Harold hasn't even posted a list longer than 200 albums, but if he ever ranks the entire AM 3000, that would be amazing.
@nj Be cryptic all you want, but you better post a list when the time comes.
opt for non-secret voting. love to watch the lists come in. sittin' on the dock of the bay.
I missed out on the last poll (due to private reasons I had a break for about 2 years on this forum), but count me in this time.
@nj Why don't you just look at the voting thread as a place to post your list, then ignore the results thread? Doing all-time lists can only produce boring results when people like yourself don't vote. How would things ever change if the people with the most unqiue taste don't vote? Others wouldn't be able to discover less popular albums/songs/whatever this if that happened.
So is it safe to say you're an all-memes, no-list poster from here on out?
Don't you see? NJ wants everyone to know he's way too cool to care about the poll.
The poster with the most unique tastes on the Mubi board is Dimitris Psahos, and he regularly calls people philistines and accuses them of believing rich countries are more important than poor countries when they like a critically popular film more than the films he likes.
He publicly withholds his taste and his participation in forum games as a penalty for the backlash he gets for his attitude.
I'm not saying this situation is at all similar to that. I'm just saying, it does not surprise me.
How has your lists changed since last time?
More Sonic Youth, better jazz taste but not more jazz compositions, removal of narcissistic missteps and thus a list that slowly start to resemble any list in brown-grey paperback music magazines with a psychedelic special once a year. And I have actually LISTENED to the Byrds. So I might include a song from them. Swedish songs? - Like...5. That's how good we are, the third best selling music country in the world. Music schools, we have. Read Henrik's Popular Music In Sweden thread, thank you. I cheat on drums there. "Strawberry Fields" or "I'm The Resurrection"?? And I still persist in Dr. Hooker's "Forge Your Own Chains"...I don't LIKE SF and I only liked Resurrection for ten seconds once. Fuck, this list won't be complete this time either...
If anything, my list has become more in-step with the main list here over the past 2 years, just because I use it to find (non-new) music. I'm not saying that my total list is lock-step with the top 3000, but it has lead me in a possibly different path then how I found music before, so alot of the new editions to my list come from their high acclaim here.
Why don't bravenet guys add "I like" buttons in their boards like on Facebook..
I mean that would really be a change.
My Michael Jackson lineup
1. Human Nature
3. Smooth Criminal
4. Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough
5. Rock With You
6. Beat It
7. Billie Jean
And my Aretha Franklin line-up:
Ain't No Way
Chain of Fools
I Say a Little Prayer
I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
Don't Play That Song
I can't quote from another post - probably a Bravenet technical issue.
I meant to give you a compliment, nj, but I guess it came out the wrong way. Should've just said that I enjoyed spending time with your lists and exploring the taste of someone with a knowledge of music much more advanced than my own. As my own taste in music changes and develops I will keep going back to your lists.
Thanks for pointing out the connection between A Short Album About Love and The Neon Philharmonic. I'm listening to The Moth Confesses at the moment and loving it.
This post is going to be really boring compared to the image above it.
I doubt that AM has such an effect on women/girls
It usually makes them run away
For someone who doesn't care a lot about all time lists you're sure posting a lot in the thread.
No, I guess I haven't heard every album ever heard of on AM. I would, but I just have so many other things to do.
deflowering is such a beautiful english word... enjoy it..
I don't think I have ever contributed my list for the favourite albums survey, so I would love to participate this summer! :D
So, is the poll open yet?
Just an update: I'm planning to post the voting thread sometime in the week after the 4th of July.
Down to 370 songs now. No John Lennon, no Stevie Wonder (sorry) and only one lousy Brian Wilson composition. It's windy on the top of the mountain.
I can't understand why not any of the following songs
are in your 3000 best ever songs. (
possibly that's no rock and Roll ?)
I hope some of them will succeed to reach the next new top 3000
Led Zeppelin Immigrant Song
Metallica Nothing Else Matters
Metallica Sad But True
Nirvana Rape Me
Pink Floyd Brain Damage/Eclipse
Pink Floyd Hey You
Scorpions Still Loving You
Simon & Garfunkel Scarborough Fair/Canticle
Supertramp Breakfast In America
The Beatles Lady Madonna
The Who Behind Blue Eyes
Van Halen Eruption
Berlin Take My Breath Away
Bob Dylan Gates Of Eden
Bob Dylan It Ain't Me Babe
Coldplay Viva La Vida
Cream Strange Brew
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Teach Your Children
Deep Purple Child In Time
Deep Purple Hush
Dire Straits Brothers in Arms
Dire Straits Walk Of Life
Elton John Nikita
Europe The Final Countdown
F.R. David Words
Guns 'N' Roses November Rain
Iron Maiden 2 Minutes to Midnight
Iron Maiden Hallowed Be Thy Name
Iron Maiden Phantom of the opera
Jethro Tull Locomotive Breath
Jimi Hendrix Stone Free
Judas Priest Victim Of Changes
Led Zeppelin Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Led Zeppelin Misty Mountain Hop
Meat Loaf I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)
Metallica Fade to Black
Metallica Seek & Destroy
Metallica The Unforgiven
Paul Anka Diana
Scott McKenzie San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair)
Spin Doctors Two Princes
Sting Fields Of Gold
Supertramp Give A Little Bit
The Animals It's My Life
The Beach Boys Barbara Ann
The Beatles Blackbird
The Beatles For No One
The Beatles Julia
The Beatles The Fool On The Hill
The Mamas and the Papas Monday, Monday
The Police So Lonely
The Police Wrapped Around Your Finger
The Rolling Stones As Tears Go By
The Rolling Stones Mother's Little Helper
The Supremes Stop in the Name of Love
The Troggs With a girl like you
The Who Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere
The Zombies Time Of The Season
Tom Petty Learning To Fly
Tommy James & the Shondells Mony Mony