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Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 25-21

Romain, I suppose these are your preferences and not your try at the final Top 20 ... (but I agree, the 60s were fabulous).
And yes, nicolas, Berry Gordy had a very good nose about commercial success (in fact one of the best "noses" ever) but he didn't handle that well the artistic ambitions of his protegés. Specially with Marvin Gaye. It was not only the affair with "Grapevine" but mainly with "What's Going On". Marvin had to struggle hard to defend an album that it's now on every all-time Top 10.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 25-21

Anybody who dubs their team of songwriters/executives/producers/everything else, "The Corporation" probably is going to be a person who's going to stifle creativity from the artists...

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 20-16

20. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son



Points: 905
Biggest fans: Miguel (#3), Rocky Raccoon (#8 ), Chris (#9), Listyguy (#10), Henry (#17)
Position in AM 3000: #49 of the 1960s and #112 of all time
Position in 1969 poll: #3
Style: Roots Rock
Written by John Fogerty
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival on August 1969 at Fantasy Studios, Berkeley, California produced by John Fogerty
Released on September 19, 1969 on Fantasy label as the B-side of the single "Down on the Corner" (Fantasy 634)
Highest chart position: #14 on US Billboard Hot 100 (the A-side went to #3)

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Down on the Corner / Fortunate Son

Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: "Musically, though powerful, it was perhaps a shade less memorable than Creedence's other huge hits of the era, like "Down on the Corner," for instance. Lyrically, though, it was one of songwriter John Fogerty's strongest and most uncompromising statements. Too much, perhaps, has been made by some critics of a pro-working class and anti-privilege ethos in the song, with some seeing it as a blast against those wealthy families who were able to keep their sons out of Vietnam while less affluent people had less options. It's more of a screed against the privileged in general, using and subscribing to patriotism while sending others to do the dirty work of fighting. At any rate, Fogerty - who, incidentally, did serve in the army reserve and knew something about having to pay the consequences of militarism - makes his stance on the matter clear, if blunt. That's especially so in the chorus, where Fogerty hammers home the point again and again: it ain't him, he's not a fortunate son. (...) The verses are mostly a rushed three-chord background for Fogerty to spit-howl his venom against, though there's a lot of sincere soul as well, particularly when he hits the highest notes."
Listyguy: "It ain't me."

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You Tube link (1969 live version at the Ed Sullivan Show)


19. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning



Points: 908
Biggest fans: Brad (#2), Jackson (#7), John (#8 ), Chris K (#9), Honorio (#10)
Position in AM 3000: #249 of the 1960s and #1028 of all time
Position in 1966 poll: #5
Style: Dream Pop
Written by John Cale and Lou Reed
Recorded by The Velvet Underground & Nico on November 1966 at Mayfair Studios, New York City produced by Tom Wilson
Released on December 1966 on Verve label (Verve VK-10466)
Highest chart position: not charted

The Velvet Underground - Sunday Morning / Femme Fatale

Comments: Wikipedia: "In late 1966, "Sunday Morning" was the final song to be recorded for "The Velvet Underground & Nico". It was requested by Tom Wilson, who thought the album needed another song with lead vocals by Nico with the potential to be a successful single. (...) Wilson brought the band into a New York City recording studio in November. The song was written with Nico's voice in mind by Lou Reed and John Cale on a Sunday morning. The band previously performed it live with Nico singing lead, but when it came time to record it, Lou Reed sang the lead vocal. Nico would instead sing backing vocals on the song. Aiming to create a hit for the album, "Sunday Morning" features noticeably more lush and professional production than the rest of the songs on the album. The song's prominent use of celesta was the idea of John Cale, who noticed the instrument in the studio and decided to use it for the song."
Honorio: "For a long time I used to think that Nico was the singer of this dreamy song and I was puzzled when I realized that this voice didn't come from the icy German beauty but from Lou-Lou. Women sounding like men, men sounding like women, drummer girls looking like boys (Mo Tucker), groupie boys looking like girls (Candy Darling). The Velvet Underground not only were pioneers singing about drugs but even predated the actual confusion of sexes."

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18. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come



Points: 917
Biggest fans: sonofsamiam (#1), Nassim (#9), Henrik (#11), Charlie Driggs (#14), Jackson (#17)
Position in AM 3000: #39 of the 1960s and #95 of all time
Position in 1965 poll: #3
Style: Soul
Written by Sam Cooke
Recorded by Sam Cooke on December 21, 1963 at RCA Studios, Los Angeles, California produced by Luigi Creatore and Hugo Peretti
Released on March 1, 1964 on RCA Victor label as the seventh song (opening the B-side) of the album "Ain't That Good News" (RCA LPM 2899), not being released as a single until January 1965 (after the singer's death) as the B-side of "Shake" (RCA 47-8486)
Highest chart position: #31 on US Billboard Hot 100 and #9 on Billboard Hot R&B Sides (the single, while the A-side went to #7 Pop and #4 R&B) and #34 on US Billboard Top 200 (the album)

Sam Cooke - Ain't That Good News

Comments: William Ruhlmann for allmusic: "Like everybody else in the early '60s, pop/gospel singer/songwriter Sam Cooke was affected by Bob Dylan's philosophical song about civil rights, "Blowin' in the Wind," which became a major hit in 1963. Cooke, according to his biographer, Daniel Wolff, marveled that a song on that subject could be written by a white man and that it could become a pop hit. He performed "Blowin' in the Wind" and he wrote his own "answer" song, the remarkable "A Change Is Gonna Come." The song melded gospel, blues, and protest elements into an emotional statement by a black man about where he had come from and where he and his people were going. Though openly skeptical of religion (one of the many amazing aspects of the lyrics), it makes an affirmation that answers Dylan's questions, while fully acknowledging the struggles Dylan pondered. For a man who had walked away from a gospel career and long veered between the early stirrings of soul music and harmless pop, "A Change Is Gonna Come" was a revelation."
Honorio: "A line like "I’m afraid to die, I don’t know what's up there beyond the sky" coming from a former gospel singer showed the internal turmoil of a man more eloquently than the whole career of some (supposedly) tortured artists."

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17. Love - Alone Again Or



Points: 921
Biggest fans: Chris (#5), Brad (#9), Harold Wexler (#10), Honorio and Miguel (#11)
Position in AM 3000: #83 of the 1960s and #221 of all time
Position in 1967 poll: #10
Style: Psychedelic Pop
Written by Bryan MacLean
Recorded by Love on August to September 18, 1967 at Sunset Sound Recorders, Hollywood, California produced by Bruce Botnick and Arthur Lee
Released on November 1967 on Elektra label opening the album "Forever Changes" (EKS 74013) and later as a single on January 1968 (EK 45629)
Highest chart position: #99 on US Billboard Hot 100 (the single) and #154 on US Billboard Top 200 (the album)

Love - Forever Changes

Comments: Stewart Mason for allmusic: "Producer Bruce Botnick points out that in the crowded pop marketplace of mid-'60s AM radio, Love's competition wasn't just the Beatles or the Mamas and the Papas, but mainstream easy listening acts like Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass; as a result, the flamenco-based "Alone Again Or" features not only a fully-realized string section (by David Angel), but also a Mexican-flavored horn section featuring a climactic trumpet solo that sounds like it could have been played by Mr. A&M Records himself. Written by second guitarist Bryan MacLean in the early '60s in musical tribute to his mother, a flamenco dancer, "Alone Again Or" is lushly beautiful, but also achingly sad, thanks both to MacLean's distressed lost-love lyrics and Lee's high-register vocals, which give the song an off-kilter quality due to the fact (...) that Lee's vocals were originally meant to be simply a high harmony to MacLean's gruffer lead, but Lee pushed his own vocals front and center, mixing MacLean out almost entirely, during the album's final mix. In both respects, then, it fits perfectly as the start of Forever Changes, a jaundiced "no thank you" to the supposed sunshine and good vibes of the Summer of Love as well as Arthur Lee's own Pet Sounds, the album he intended as his personal artistic summation."
Listyguy: "Beautiful latin fusion."
Honorio: "A delicious anomaly in 60s California psychedelic scene, and even an anomaly within its own band and album. While "Forever Changes" was the work of art of Arthur Lee, "Alone Again Or" was written and sung by Bryan MacLean and featured a flamenco-style chord pattern and a Tijuana Brass-style trumpet solo. But it had a bittersweet tone common with Lee material: "And I will be alone again tonight my dear"."

You Tube link
You Tube link (Bryan MacLean solo demo)


16. David Bowie - Space Oddity



Points: 946
Biggest fans: Nassim (#2), Romain (#4), Henrik (#6), Listyguy (#15), nicolas (#18 )
Position in AM 3000: #45 of the 1960s and #104 of all time
Position in 1969 poll: #2
Style: Space Rock
Written by David Bowie
Recorded by David Bowie on June 20, 1969 at Trident Studios, London, England produced by Gus Dungeon
Released on July 11, 1969 on Phillips label on the UK (Phillips BF 1801) and on Mercury label on the USA (Mercury 72949)
Highest chart position: #5 on UK Top 75 (it was #1 when re-released in 1975) and #124 on US Billboard Hot 100

David Bowie - Space Oddity / Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

Comments: Stewart Mason for allmusic: "David Bowie's first hit single, from fall 1969, has long been associated with the first ever Apollo moon landing, with which its release coincided. In fact, it is hard to think of a song less appropriate to such a venture, as Major Tom switches off all communications with earth and prepares to spend eternity floating around in his tin can. Nevertheless, the BBC employed the song as the theme music to its coverage of the event, and Bowie swiftly found himself with a Top Five U.K. smash. (...) "Space Oddity" was originally written and recorded for a 30-minute promotional film highlighting Bowie as a songwriter, performer, and all-round artiste in 1968 - discussing its origins, Bowie has credited both Stanley Kubrick's 2001 and "a silly flirtation with smack," and both influences have been discerned by watchful students. This original recording of the song remained unreleased until 1984 brought the Love You Till Tuesday soundtrack release. Bowie returned to the song in 1969, recording it with producer Gus Dudgeon after his first choice, Tony Visconti, turned it down (...) Reissues in the U.S. in 1972 and Britain in 1975 brought further chart honors. Indeed, the latter re-release gave Bowie his first ever homeland chart-topper. "Space Oddity" remains one of the most popular songs in Bowie's entire canon. All but ever-present in his live show throughout the 1970s and 1980s, (...) he re-recorded the song for a B-side in 1980 (...) before issuing a sequel, "Ashes to Ashes," later in the year. Fittingly, it became his second U.K. number one."
Listyguy: "Bowie's blooming moment."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1969 original version for the promo film "Love You Till Tuesday")

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 25-21

Jackson
A stab at the order:

20. David Bowie, Space Oddity, 1969
19. Creedence Clearwater Revival, Fortunate Son, 1969
18. Animals, House of the Rising Sun, 1964
17. Rolling Stones, (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, 1965
16. Rolling Stones, Paint It Black, 1966
15. Love, Alone Again Or, 1967
14. Ronettes, Be My Baby, 1963
13. Velvet Underground, Sunday Morning, 1966
12. Beatles, Tomorrow Never Knows, 1966
11. Sam Cooke, A Change is Gonna Come, 1965
10. Rolling Stones, Sympathy For the Devil, 1968
09. Otis Redding, (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay, 1968
08. Beatles, Strawberry Field Forever, 1967
07. Jimi Hendrix, All Along the Watchtower, 1968
06. Kinks, Waterloo Sunset, 1967
05. Beach Boys, Good Vibrations, 1966
04. Beatles, A Day in the Life, 1967
03. Rolling Stones, Gimme Shelter, 1969
02. Beach Boys, God Only Knows, 1966
01. Bob Dylan, Like A Rolling Stone, 1965

Feels strange putting "A Day in the Life" so low, but the three I placed above it seem like songs that nobody really dislikes.


Excellent predictions Jackson.

Here is my present prediction for the remaining placements:

15. Animals, House of the Rising Sun, 1964
14. Rolling Stones, Paint It Black, 1966
13. Ronettes, Be My Baby, 1963
12. Otis Redding, (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay, 1968
11. Beatles, Tomorrow Never Knows, 1966
10. Beatles, Strawberry Field Forever, 1967
09. Rolling Stones, (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, 1965
08. Beach Boys, Good Vibrations, 1966
07. Jimi Hendrix, All Along the Watchtower, 1968
06. Kinks, Waterloo Sunset, 1967
05. Rolling Stones, Sympathy For the Devil, 1968
04. Beatles, A Day in the Life, 1967
03. Rolling Stones, Gimme Shelter, 1969
02. Beach Boys, God Only Knows, 1966
01. Bob Dylan, Like A Rolling Stone, 1965

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 15-11

Do you remember a band called The Rolling Stones? Yes, they make now their first appearance on our list. Four songs only but all of them packed on the Top 15.
About the song at #11 I still remember that it ended at #10 of all time (great!) in our first Songs Poll that sonofsamiam hosted in 2005. Sadly now it's "only" #11 of the 60s.


15. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun



Points: 966
Biggest fans: Romain (#1), nicolas and Stephan (#10), Chris K and Jackson (#12)
Position in AM 3000: #45 of the 1960s and #104 of all time
Position in 1964 poll: #1
Style: Folk Rock
Written by Traditional, arranged by Alan Price
Recorded by The Animals on May 18, 1964 at De Lane Lea Studios, London, England produced by Mickey Most
Musicians: Eric Burdon (vocals), Hilton Valentine (guitar), Alan Price (organ), Chas Chandler (bass), John Steel (drums)
Released on June 19, 1964 on Columbia label on the UK as a 4'29" full version (Columbia DB 7301) and on July 164 on MGM label on the USA as a 2'28" edited version (MGM 13264)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard Hot 100 and on UK Top 75

The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun / Talkin' 'Bout You

Comments: Wikipedia: "Like many classic folk ballads, the authorship of "The House of the Rising Sun" is unknown. Some musicologists believe it is based on the tradition of broadside ballads such as the "Unfortunate Rake" of the 18th century which were taken to America by early settlers. (...) Alan Price of The Animals has claimed that the song was originally a sixteenth-century English folk song about a Soho brothel, and that English emigrants took the song to America where it was adapted to its later New Orleans setting. (...) Recorded in just one take on 18 May 1964, it started with a famous electric guitar A minor chord arpeggio by Hilton Valentine. The performance took off with Eric Burdon's lead vocal, which has been variously described as "howling", "soulful", and "deep and gravelly as the north-east English coal town of Newcastle that spawned him." Finally, Alan Price's pulsating organ part (played on a Vox Continental) completed the sound. Burdon later said, "We were looking for a song that would grab people's attention," and they succeeded: "House of the Rising Sun" was a true trans-Atlantic hit, topping both the UK pop singles chart (in July 1964) and the US pop singles chart (two months later in September 1964, when it became the first British Invasion number one unconnected with The Beatles)."
Listyguy: "An epic take on a folk classic."
nicolas: "In the beginning i twas a traditional folk song, played by Leadbelly and Josh White then by Dylan. The Animals changed the melody and dust this old song and put the incomparable timbre of Eric Burdon’s voice and Alan Price’s organ, the guy who invented Ray Manzarek."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1964 live version)


14. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows



Points: 968
Biggest fans: Mindrocker (#4), Jackson (#5), sonofsamiam (#8 ), Miguel (#9), Listyguy (#11)
Position in AM 3000: #88 of the 1960s and #230 of all time
Position in 1966 poll: #6
Style: Psychedelic Rock
Written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney
Recorded by The Beatles on April 6, 7 and 22, 1966 at EMI Studios, London, England produced by George Martin
Musicians: John Lennon (double-tracked vocals, organ, tape loops), Paul McCartney (bass, tape loops), George Harrison (sitar, tambura, backwards guitar solo, tape loops), Ringo Starr (drums, tambourine, tape loops), George Martin (honky tonk piano)
Released on August 5, 1966 on Parlophone label as the fourteenth (and last) song on the "Revolver" album (Parlophone PCS 7009)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard 200 (the album)

The Beatles - Revolver

Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: " "Tomorrow Never Knows" was the most experimental and psychedelic track on Revolver, in both its structure and production. This was not a song that could be easily sung by a rock group live, as the special effects and tape manipulation that were integral to the tune could not be re-created on-stage. In addition, there was a conspicuous absence of the riffs and verse-bridge-chorus-dominated construction that had colored virtually every original Beatles composition before 1966. The underpinnings of "Tomorrow Never Knows" were a single-tone drone, influenced by the group's growing interest in Indian music, and unforgettable stop-start, stuttering drum patterns by Ringo Starr. Eerie high-pitched seagull-like chanting was in the background throughout; principal composer John Lennon had actually envisioned the sound of monks chanting, and if this effect was not precisely what he had in mind, it was equally memorable. The lyrics were psychedelic, which is not just a critic's assumption: some of the words were adapted from Timothy Leary's book The Psychedelic Experience and the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Regardless of the source, the lyrics were philosophical, existential, sometimes inscrutable reflections on the state of being: a heavy subject for popular music, whether in 1966 or any other year."
Listyguy: "This song sounds like LSD."

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13. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black



Points: 969
Biggest fans: Romain (#3), Chris K and Mindrocker (#5), Chris (#7), Rocky Raccoon (#9)
Position in AM 3000: #76 of the 1960s and #196 of all time
Position in 1966 poll: #3
Style: Psychedelic Rock
Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
Recorded by The Rolling Stones on March 6-9, 1966 at RCA Studios, Hollywood, California produced by Andrew Loog Oldham
Musicians: Mick Jagger (vocals), Keith Richards (electric guitar, acoustic guitar, backing vocals), Brian Jones (sitar), Bill Wyman (bass, organ bass pedals), Charlie Watts (drums), Jack Nitzsche (piano)
Released on May 6, 1966 on London label in the USA (London 45-901) and on May 13, 1966 on Decca label in the UK (Decca F.12395)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard 100 and on UK Top 75

The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black / Stupid Girl

Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: "The principal riff of "Paint It Black" (almost all classic Rolling Stones songs are highlighted by a killer riff) was played on a sitar by Brian Jones and qualifies as perhaps the most effective use of the Indian instrument in a rock song. The exotic twang was a perfect match for the dark, mysterious Eastern-Indian melody, which sounded a little like a soundtrack to an Indian movie hijacked into hyperdrive. It was later reported, in fact, that "Paint It Black" had begun life in a much slower, conventional funky soul vein. When Bill Wyman began fooling around on the organ during the session doing a parody of their middle-aged original co-manager Eric Easton (who had been an organist), Charlie Watts joined in the fun and laid down an urgent double-time drum pattern, echoing the rhythm heard in some Middle Eastern dances. That rhythm survives into the final track, serving as an effective counterpoint to Jagger's moodily intoned lyric about, apparently, a dead girlfriend. The drums return to a standard hard rock rhythm in the explosive chorus, which has subtle melodic shifts of minor keys that serve as evidence of Jagger and Richards' underestimated skill at creating compelling pop hooks, in the mid-'60s at any rate."
Listyguy: "Beautifully dark song."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1966 TV performance with live vocals)


12. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction



Points: 993
Biggest fans: Henry and Rocky Raccoon (#1), Henrik and Listyguy (#4), Stephan (#8 )
Position in AM 3000: #2 of the 1960s and #2 of all time
Position in 1965 poll: #2
Style: Hard Rock
Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
Recorded by The Rolling Stones on May 18, 1965 at RCA Studios, Hollywood, California produced by Andrew Loog Oldham
Musicians: Mick Jagger (lead vocals, backing vocals), Keith Richards (electric guitars, backing vocals), Brian Jones (acoustic guitars), Bill Wyman (bass), Charlie Watts (drums), Jack Nitzsche (piano, tambourine)
Released on June 6, 1965 on London label in the USA (London 45-9766) and on August 20, 1965 on Decca label in the UK (Decca F.12220)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard 100 and on UK Top 75

The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction / The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man

Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: " "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" is the Ur-Rolling Stones song: a pounding rocker with sneering vocals and lyrics, with a blues and soul base that nonetheless is used for a guitar-based song that is definitely rock, not blues or R&B. It was also one of the defining records of the its era, reaching number one around the globe and establishing the Rolling Stones as the second-biggest band in the world, behind only the Beatles. As with many Rolling Stones songs, the key hook is the guitar riff: a fuzz-toned, insistent series of ascending and descending notes that rates among the most captivating and memorable riffs in rock history. Set against a beat suitable for foot-stomping and hand-clapping, Mick Jagger delivers the verses in a hushed, ambiguous tone that hovers between commentary and sarcastic nastiness. The group approaches the verse with a series of increasingly urgent, tense harmonizations on the words "and I try" before exploding into the chorus: a cathartic release of all the frustration that has been building throughout the song, the opening fuzz riff reappearing in full force as Jagger half-screams the title (or most of it, at any rate) in a manner that compels the listener to sing-shout along. The chorus then turns into a stream-of-consciousness catalog of complaints about the irritations of modern life, touring, the media, and (of course) getting laid. It returns again to the basic shout-hook before all instruments drop out, save a crunching drumbeat: a most effective use of the maxim "less is more" within a pop song."
Listyguy: "Classic riff."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1966 live version at the Ed Sullivan show)


11. The Ronettes - Be My Baby



Points: 1054
Biggest fans: Otisredding (#2), Honorio (#4), sonofsamiam (#7), Henrik and Mindrocker (#9)
Position in AM 3000: #9 of the 1960s and #13 of all time
Position in 1963 poll: #1
Style: Girl Group
Written by Jeff Barry, Ellie Greenwich and Phil Spector
Recorded by The Ronettes on July, 1963 at Gold Star Studios, Los Angeles, California produced by Phil Spector
Musicians: Veronica Bennett (lead vocals, backing vocals), Hal Blaine and Earl Palmer (drums), Sonny Bono and Jack Nitzsche (percussion), Carol Kaye and Ray Pohlman (bass), Leon Russell, Al Delory and Larry Knetchell (keyboards), Billy Strange, Tommy Tedesco, Barney Kessel and Glen Campbell (acoustic guitars) plus two trombones, two trumpets, three saxophones, a full orchestra string section and a group of guests that provided additional backing vocals (including Darlene Love, Fanita James, Bobby Sheen, Nino Tempo, Sonny Bono and "Sonny's girlfriend, who was a gawky teenager named Cher" but not the other Ronettes Estelle Bennett and Nedra Talley). I found this complete information on the great page Sound on Sound).
Released on August 1963 on Philles label (Philles 116)
Highest chart position: #2 on US Billboard 100 (and #4 on Billboard Hot R&B Sides)

The Ronettes - Be My Baby / Tedesco and Pitman

Comments: Jason Ankeny for allmusic: " "Be My Baby" announces its arrival with arguably the most dramatic introduction in all of rock & roll - Hal Blaine's drums are the Morse code of the gods - and somehow just keeps getting better from there; the quintessential Phil Spector production, it begins as the Wall of Sound but ends up a full-blown Taj Mahal, a gleaming sonic temple erected in eternal tribute to Ronettes frontwoman (and the future Mrs. Spector) Veronica Bennett. Hot on the heels of the classic "Da Doo Ron Ron" and "Then He Kissed Me," "Be My Baby" unveils the complete scope of Spector's vision: a slow-burn pop symphony, it builds momentum with each passing verse, propelled by horse-gallop castanets and muted piano figures until it achieves maximum density in a majestic convergence of vocals, strings, horns, and thunderclap percussion. That Spector's most grandiose production to date would serve the least polished vocalist in his stable might seem like perverse irony, but in truth "Be My Baby" works because of Bennett, not in spite of her. While never a singer on par with, say, Darlene Love, her voice radiates pure baby-doll sexuality - she somehow transforms the sweetly sappy sentiments of Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich's song into a veritable siren's call (her "whoa-oh-oh-oh" exclamations, reprised on the brilliant follow-up "Baby, I Love You," say it all), and the plaintive longing of the lyrics aside, there's never a moment of doubt that it's she who is the real object of desire here."
Listyguy: "What is the "wall of sound"???"
Honorio: "I think I'll play the game of "comments answering comments" too. Listyguy, to know what the wall of sound is just look at the list above of the musicians involved. Four guitars, three keyboards, two basses, two drummers plus percussion (these delicious castanets!), horns, strings, all playing simultaneously those teeneage symphonies turning it in "pure gold coming out from the speakers" in Spector own words. Pop was not going to be a minor style anymore."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1966 live version at the Big TNT Show)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 15-11

So, the wall of sound" is just the ridiculous number of instruments used for the song?

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 15-11

That last five was pretty great, even with two Stones songs that I don't particularly love thrown in there (don't get me wrong; I love the Stones, but I don't understand why people who know them well could rate "Satisfaction" so highly).

"Be My Baby" performed better in this poll than it did in the all-time poll. I've loved it for a while, but my appreciation only increases with repeat listens. And "Tomorrow Never Knows" is by far my favorite Beatles song, so it's good to see it perform so well.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 15-11

Listyguy
So, the wall of sound" is just the ridiculous number of instruments used for the song?


Compare it to what was around it - Be My Baby is on the surface a simple pop song, but if you listen intricately, it's so rich and dense.


And I also loved that last 5.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 15-11

Zorg
Listyguy
So, the wall of sound" is just the ridiculous number of instruments used for the song?

Compare it to what was around it - Be My Baby is on the surface a simple pop song, but if you listen intricately, it's so rich and dense.

Thanx Zorg and Jackson, the last five were great. But the next five wil be better (at least in theory).
Well, Listyguy, basically the Wall of Sound is what you said but it's a lot more too. The article about that in Wikipedia is so illustrating that I really got nothing to add, I'll simply summarize some concepts and quote some parts:
- A DENSE sound achieved with instruments playing the same parts in unison, "some instruments not generally used for ensemble playing (such as electric and acoustic guitars) playing orchestrated parts, often doubling and tripling many instruments playing in unison for a fuller sound".
- He did "musical arrangements for LARGE groups of musicians up to the size of orchestras". Spector himself called his technique "a Wagnerian approach to rock & roll: little symphonies for the kids".
- And, of course, the ECHO: "Spector usually worked at Gold Star Studios in Los Angeles because of its exceptional echo chambers, essential to the Wall of Sound technique. Microphones in the recording studio captured the sound, which was then transmitted to an echo chamber - a basement room outfitted with speakers and microphones. The signal from the studio was played through the speakers and would reverberate throughout the room before being picked up by the microphones. The echo laden sound was then channeled back to the control room, where it was transferred to tape. The natural reverberation and echo from the hard walls of the echo chamber gave Spector's productions their distinctive quality, and resulted in a rich, complex sound that, when played on AM radio, resulted in an impressive depth rarely heard in mono recordings".
- Back to MONO: "Despite the trend towards multi-channel recording, Spector was vehemently opposed to stereo releases, claiming that it took control of the record's sound away from the producer in favor of the listener".
- He didn't rely the sound in individual virtuosity but in the COLLECTIVE sound, although the author of the Wikipedia article don't think so: "Closer reflection indeed reveals that the Wall of Sound was quite compatible with, even supportive of, vocal protagonism. Such virtuosity was ultimately serving of Spector's own agenda - the Righteous Brothers' vocal prowess provided him a "secure and prosperous headrest".

And that’s all for today. Now... FORÇA BARÇA!!

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 10-8

And, now that the FC Barcelona has won the UEFA Champions League let's continue with the countdown (in my opinion the actual Barça is the best soccer team ever, and not only for the impressive amount of Cups they had won during the last years but mainly for the superb way of playing and the humble attitude of Xavi, Messi or the mister Pep Guardiola).

Well, we have 2 Beach Boys, 2 Beatles, 1 Dylan, 1 Hendrix , 1 Kinks, 1 Redding and 2 Stones. So, are your ready for...

The Top 10

If I'm allowed to continue with the soccer references the results of the next three are: Arsenal 2 - Liverpool 1


10. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil



Points: 1056
Biggest fans: Mindrocker (#3), Otisredding (#4), Stephan (#5), Henry #7), Charlie Driggs and Harold Wexler (#9)
Position in AM 3000: #18 of the 1960s and #33 of all time
Position in 1968 poll: #2
Style: Rock
Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
Recorded by The Rolling Stones on June 4, 8, 9 an 10, 1968 at Olympic Sound Studios, London, England produced by Jimmy Miller, the sessions were recorded on film by Jean-Luc Godard for his movie "One Plus One"
Musicians: Mick Jagger (vocals), Keith Richards (electric guitar, bass), Brian Jones (acoustic guitar not audible in the final mix), Charlie Watts (drums, percussion), Bill Wyman (maracas), Nicky Hopkins (piano), Rocky Dijon (congas) plus the 'wooh 'wooh backing vocals recorded by the five Stones plus Marianne Faithfull, Anita Pallenberg and Jimmy Miller.
Released on December 6, 1968 on Decca label (UK) and on London label (USA) as the opening track on the album "Beggars Banquet" (Decca SKL 4955 and London PS 539)
Highest chart position: #5 on US Billboard 200 and #3 on UK Albums Chart (the album)

The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet

Lyrics quote: "So if you meet me / Have some courtesy / Have some sympathy and some taste / Use all your well-learned politesse / Or I'll lay your soul to waste."
Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: " "Sympathy for the Devil" is perhaps the most notorious and controversial Rolling Stones song, as well as one of the greatest. As the most famous tune on their 1968 album, Beggars Banquet (rivaled only, perhaps, by that LP's "Street Fighting Man"), it came out at a time when the Stones were increasingly flirting with a satanic public image. Well, "Sympathy for the Devil" took that flirt to a full-on consummation. Here was the narrator - Mick Jagger, naturally - taking on the role of the devil himself, a portrait made more distressing by his gentlemanly self-introductions. As seen in the Jean-Luc Godard film One Plus One (retitled Sympathy for the Devil for some releases), the backing track went through some radical transformations, from elementary sluggish blues-rock on acoustic guitars, before arriving at its recorded arrangement. That final arrangement was integral to the success of the song. A compelling African-like rhythm pounded out on conga drums introduces the track, the air of uneasy menace established by echoed yelps and grunts. Along with rumbling piano, those drums continue to underscore the tune, and after the first verse, Jagger is joined by soulful, wordless, high backup vocals that are both catchy and creepy. The chorus - sung with progressive vehemence as the song proceeds - is the embodiment of Jagger's persona in his song: an evil figure who charms and refuses to disclose the true nature of his identity and intentions. The guitar solo is one of Keith Richards' most economic and incisive, like flames licking at the devil's feet."
Listyguy: "An epic masterpiece."
nicolas: "1968. The Stones record Beggar’s Banquet. For Brian Jones, it’s already the beginning of the end. For the band, it’s the first album of a superb tetralogy (until Exile On Main Street), where they revisited American roots music with brio and accuracy. Who needs to be introduced to the "Whoo Whoo" song with its tribal percussions and satanic lyrics? Less funny: the day when the band played it at Altamont the violence burst out (see the movie Gimme shelter)."

You Tube link
You Tube link (Godard's "One Plus One" trailer)
Video link (1968 "Rock & Roll Circus" live version)


9. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset



Points: 1098
Biggest fans: Brad, Jackson and Miguel (#1), Listyguy (#8 ), Chris (#10), John (#11)
Position in AM 3000: #27 of the 1960s and #57 of all time
Position in 1967 poll: #3
Style: Pop Rock
Written by Ray Davies
Recorded by The Kinks on April, 1967 at Pye Studios, London, England produced by Ray Davies
Musicians: Ray Davies (lead vocals, acoustic guitar, backing vocals), Dave Davies (electric guitar, backing vocals), Pete Quaife (bass, backing vocals), Mick Avory (drums, percussion), Nicky Hopkins (piano)
Released on May 7, 1967 on Pye label in the UK (Pye 7N.17321) and on July 26, 1967 on Reprise label in the USA (Reprise 0612)
Highest chart position: #2 on UK Top 75 (not ranked on US Hot 100)

The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset / Act Nice and Gentle

Lyrics quote: "But I don't need no friends / As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset / I am in paradise."
Comments: Tom Magginis for allmusic: " "Waterloo Sunset" is one of those pop songs so perfect, so immediately familiar, that it feels as if it were plucked from the air and taken form in a rare moment of musical grace. (...) The song was released as a single and rose to #2 on the charts in the U.K. but was virtually ignored in America. Perhaps this is not so surprising in that "Waterloo Sunset" is an uncharacteristically straight -faced love letter to Davies’ native London. (...) As the track opens to a seemingly endless descending progression, giving way to heartily strummed acoustics and aching guitar figure in anticipation of the bittersweet vocal melody, the sensation is like falling into a giant soft pillow. (...) Much of Waterloo Sunset was derived from childhood memories of being a bit of a homebody, preferring to stay in while his siblings ventured out into the big city, content to gaze at the sunset from his boyhood home on a hill that overlooked the Waterloo underground station. This provides an almost cinematic setting when considering the lines, "Every day I look at the world from my window / But chilly chilly is evening time / Waterloo sunset’s fine". We can picture the young Ray watching his sister meet a friend on their way to the city, "Terry meets Julie, Waterloo Station / Every Friday night / But I am so lazy, don’t want to wander / I stay at home at night / But I don’t feel afraid / As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset / I am in paradise", preferring the comfort of home over the frequently damp London evenings."
Honorio: "A boy called Ray Davies peeping to the world through his window wrapped in a warm blanket of sweet vocal harmonies, as long as he gazes to Waterloo sunset he's in paradise."
Listyguy: "Waterloo Sunset's fine."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1967 TV performance)


8. The Beatles- Strawberry Fields Forever



Points: 1126
Biggest fans: Honorio, Listyguy and Rocky Raccoon (#2), Otisredding (#5), Brad, Miguel and Romain (#8 )
Position in AM 3000: #10 of the 1960s and #17 of all time
Position in 1967 poll: #4
Style: Psychedelic Pop
Written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney
Recorded by The Beatles on November 24, 29 and 29 and December 8, 9, 15 and 21, 1966 at EMI Studios, London, England produced by George Martin
Musicians: John Lennon (doubled-tracked lead vocals, electric guitar, piano. maracas), Paul McCartney (mellotron, bass, timpani), George Harrison (electric slide guitar, swordmandel, bongos), Ringo Starr (drums, percussion, backward cymbals), additional percussion (Mal Evans, Neil Aspinall, Terry Doran), four trumpets (Tony Fisher, Greg Bowen, Derek Watkins, Stanley Roderick) and three cellos (John Hall, Derek Simpson, Norman Jones)
Released on February 17, 1967 on Parlophone label in the UK as a double A-sided single with "Penny Lane" (Parlophone R 5770) and on Februray 13, 1967 on Capitol label in the USA (Capitol 5810)
Highest chart position: #2 on UK Top 75 and #7 on US Billboard Hot 100 (while "Penny Lane" reached to #1)

The Beatles - Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever

Lyrics quote: "Living is easy with eyes closed / Misunderstanding all you see."
Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: "The song's effect was greatly enhanced by its production, with an arrangement that would undergo numerous changes during the course of the recording process. Two finished versions were completed, one closer to the song's folky origins, one more orchestrated. John Lennon wanted to use portions from each, and asked George Martin to combine them, despite the fact that they had been recorded in different keys and tempos. In his most famous production feat of all, Martin slowed one portion down and sped up the other, finding that - miraculously - both the tempos and the keys then matched. That accounts in large part for the magnificently varied moods and textures of the final track, with its unearthly opening mellotron introduction (mistaken by some for flutes) leading into the gently delivered initial chorus and verse. The atmosphere becomes tenser and effectively underscores the ambiguity of the song's lyrics, as funereal marching brass is introduced, making the promise of Strawberry Fields' dream world seem more ominous, even menacing (especially when a noise like that of a spade digging a grave is hard). The song comes to a glorious close with several repetitions of the title chorus and a fadeout with lovely guitar, cello, and swordmandel (played by George Harrison). But wait - that isn't quite the end. After a few seconds of dead air, a totally unrelated and quite dissonant piece of musique concrète fades in, with crunchy Ringo Starr drum rolls, nightmarish flute mellotrons, and a noise that sounds like muted ambulance horns. This coda again could signify that the placid dreamscape of Strawberry Fields isn't all it seems, and that a hellish whirlwind could be lurking just underneath."
Listyguy: "Tough to put this second, but Jimi's just too good."
Honorio: "Nostalgic vignettes of a misty Liverpool dreamed from the deserts of Almeria. Lennon turned his childhood memories into a psychedelic trip where "nothing is real" and "living is easy with eyes closed". Now we know that his infancy was not exactly happy, being abandoned by his parents and evolving hardly from the classroom strangest boy to the working class hero he would become."

You Tube link
You Tube link (left channel) and You Tube link (right channel)

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Damn, I was hoping Strawberry Fields Forever could beat A Day in the Life. I've never seen why A Day in the Life is so loved.

Interesting how the same man (Nicky Hopkins) played piano on Waterloo Sunset and Sympathy for the devil.

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"Waterloo Sunset" placed one spot lower than it did in the all-time poll despite 3 (!) number one votes. Looks like "All Along the Watchtower" (17) and "Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay" (22) passed it, but I can't complain too much because those are both great songs.

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Jackson
"Waterloo Sunset" placed one spot lower than it did in the all-time poll despite 3 (!) number one votes. Looks like "All Along the Watchtower" (17) and "Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay" (22) passed it, but I can't complain too much because those are both great songs.

Sorry I didn't help it out - Waterloo Sunset would have been my #1 as well if I'd voted...

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Jackson
"Waterloo Sunset" placed one spot lower than it did in the all-time poll despite 3 (!) number one votes.

Yes, I was surprised too after doing the Excel file, I expected a Top 5 placement when I was receiving the lists. It was also Top 25 for 13 out of 20 voters.

Listyguy
Interesting how the same man (Nicky Hopkins) played piano on Waterloo Sunset and Sympathy for the devil.

Yes, Listyguy, Nicky Hopkins was a fantastic session musician that not only worked with the Stones (although it will be always remebered for that, particularly for the piano parts on "Sympathy for the Devil" or "She's a Rainbow") but with many others. You can hear his outstanding work in albums like "Sticky Fingers", "Who's Next" or "Imagine" (all three on the same year, 1971!!). By the way, he will appear later on this same list.
About his part on "Waterloo Sunset" I'm not that sure, I haven't found the credits on that particular song so I used the credits for the "Something Else" album (where Nicky has a quite prominent role), but listening again to the song I realized that there is a piano on the last seconds of the song (that I suppose it was played by Hopkins too).

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Hopkins is a pianist virtually without peers, if you want to hear more Hopkins check out Jamming With Edward, Edward being Nicky, a jam album with 3 Stones, Ry Cooder and of course Hopkins. Not a terribly good album, but the piano playing is amazing. Also check out Nicky's own album The Tin Man Was A Dreamer, an excellent album mostly because of his playing, but even his writing and singing are quite good.

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Never listened to those albums, but I'll definitely check it if they're available at Spotify. Many thanks, Stephan.

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I've recently been digging into session musicians venturing out on their own, which has been rather rewarding. Other session men extraordinaire include:
Eddie Hinton, famous for playing lead guitar with Muscle Shoals and even impressing Dylan with his musical knowledge, whose album Very Extremely Dangerous is very extremely rewarding and perfectly explains why he's called the white Otis
Dan Penn, one of the great white soul singers who penned many a hit but preferred to stay anonymous and thus only released one (amazing) album in his heyday: Nobody's Fool.

Both of these albums will be featuring in my underrated albums list.

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Honorio
And, now that the FC Barcelona has won the UEFA Champions League let's continue with the countdown (in my opinion the actual Barça is the best soccer team ever, and not only for the impressive amount of Cups they had won during the last years but mainly for the superb way of playing and the humble attitude of Xavi, Messi or the mister Pep Guardiola).


Without a doubt the greatest football team ever. There are few teams where David Villa would be overshadowed by three guys behind him (I am of course talking about Xavi, Iniesta and naturally Messi). Can I also say that I predicted the 3-1 result (though unfortunately I didn't bet on it).

Sad Sympathy For the Devil didn't do better. Arsenal should've been top of the league! (or second to Minnesota Vikings).

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 100-91

While we wait for the final 7, here are some random thoughts/questions about the list so far. Feel free to comment if you like, but if no one has the time or inclination to respond, that's fine too...

The Marcels – Blue Moon. This song puts me in a good mood every time I listen to it. I love it, but there’s no logical explanation for why I love it. I usually like a song or album because of a gut feeling, and then afterwards I think of reasons for why I like it. Do you also respond to music intuitively or do you approach a song or album with clear-cut notions of what good music or bad music should be all about?

Return to Sender by Elvis Presley is (to quote) "about a guy who sends a letter to a girl, but she refuses to read it, instead writing 'Return to Sender' on it and having it sent back to him. Our hero has a hard time believing she doesn't want to read the letter, so he sends it special delivery to make sure it arrives. When that letter gets sent back, he decides to hand-deliver it."

I think the premise of this song is hilarious. Do you like a song more if it’s funny?

Henry Mancini – Moon River. I really like this song, but I think it’s safe to say that it’s more than just a little sentimental. Why is it so popular among AM’ers despite its sentimental core?

Bob Dylan – Subterranean Homesick Blues. Does anyone else think this song was the origin of hip-hop?

The Beatles – Tomorrow Never Knows. Does anyone else think this song was the origin of electronic music?

The Beatles – I Want to Hold Your Hand. Why did this song not make the final round? What’s wrong with it? It’s quintessential early Beatles IMO. It contains the most catchy melody you could hope for and the chorus is a euphoric knock-out. A top 100 songs of the 60’s without it seems outrageous.

Pharoah Sanders – The Creator Has a Masterplan. I’m not religious yet this is one of my favourite discoveries of the 60’s. In fact, it makes me glad that we live in a world where this kind of far-out but awe-inspiring music is celebrated in some circles. Are there any other songs that make you feel the same way?

Roy Orbison – In Dreams. The range of Roy Orbison’s voice is amazing (apparently he had a range of 4 octaves). Does someone's voice affect your appreciation of a song?

The Miracles – The Tracks of My Tears. Does anyone else wish that male singers would have the balls to show their sensitive side a bit more often?

The Kinks – Waterloo Sunset. I’ve experienced a beautiful Waterloo sunset in London myself, so I can relate to the song. If you know the location mentioned in a song, does it make you like the song more? (I guess this kind of links in with the World Tour game that just started.)

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The Beatles – Tomorrow Never Knows. Does anyone else think this song was the origin of electronic music?
No.

Bob Dylan – Subterranean Homesick Blues. Does anyone else think this song was the origin of hip-hop?
And, as much as I'd like to say yes, no. Both originate several decades earlier. For Subterranean an argument could be made as the first use in 'pop music', but it'd be a rather weak argument. Tomorrow was preceded even in 'pop music' by more than a decade, Hermann's score for The Day the Earth Stood Still, for example.

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Dan M

The Miracles – The Tracks of My Tears. Does anyone else wish that male singers would have the balls to show their sensitive side a bit more often?


comes in handily as THEEE rhetoric question considering the same old ancient struggle between teenage girl vs boy markets during all those aeons, so the answer might be as deuce as 42.

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Stephan
And, as much as I'd like to say yes, no. Both originate several decades earlier.


But were they a pleasant experience?

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Many thanks for your comments, Dan M (and Zorg and nj and Stephan). Especially because you ask us (or yourself really) about the reasons of music enjoyment. Of course, if a song puts you in a good mood (“Blue Moon”), in a spiritual mood (“Creator”), in a funny mood (“Sender”) or in a sentimental mood (“Moon River”, by the way, what's wrong about getting sentimental?) this enhances your enjoyment. If you experienced a sunset in Waterloo Station too, and you can share the feelings that this produced in Ray Davies as a child, that's not only part of charm but maybe his main appeal. If a song gets to you in a personal level, if it becomes part of your own life, that's the way a songwriter really succeeds. Hate to quote myself but this was the comment about Radiohead's “No Surprises” I did for the 2005 poll: “Morrissey said in his song “Panic” that we should hang the DJ “because the music that he constantly play it says nothing to me about my life”. Songs are pieces of other people’s lives that only gets its true sense when are integrated in yours”.


7. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter



Points: 1142
Biggest fans: Harold Wexler (#3), Chris (#4), Nassim (#5), Henrik (#8 ), Chris K and Jackson (#11)
Position in AM 3000: #55 of the 1960s and #130 of all time
Position in 1969 poll: #1
Style: Blues Rock
Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
Recorded by The Rolling Stones on February 23, 24 and 25, 1969 at Olympic Sound Studios, London, England and November 2, 1969 at Elektra Studios, Los Angeles, California produced by Jimmy Miller
Musicians: Mick Jagger (lead vocals, backing vocals, harmonica), Keith Richards (electric guitars, backing vocals), Bill Wyman (bass), Charlie Watts (drums), Merry Clayton (lead vocals, backing vocals), Nicky Hopkins (electric piano), Jimmy Miller (percussion)
Released on December 5, 1969 on Decca label (UK) and on November 29, 1969 on London label (USA) as the opening track on the album "Let It Bleed" (Decca SKL 5025 and London NPS 4)
Highest chart position: #3 on US Billboard 200 and #1 on UK Albums Chart (the album)

The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed

Lyrics quote: "Rape, murder / Is just a shot away."
Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: " "Gimme Shelter" is the Rolling Stones song most apt to be called apocalyptic (...) The most striking feature of the cut makes itself known right away: the shaky, shimmering guitar leads, whose catchiness nonetheless is imbued with a feeling of impending doom. The eerie, high, wordless vocals and dramatic piano that preface the verse add to the feeling that something dreadful is approaching just over the horizon. The verses are rather ordinary and workmanlike in comparison to the chorus, another great catchy Stones chorus that can be half-shouted and half-sung along with. The words, as in many Jagger/Richards songs, are ambivalent and ambiguous, not to mention sometimes difficult to understand even literally. The group might be seeking shelter from an oncoming disaster, or they might be seeking shelter in the escape offered by someone's love, or they might be seeking both. Sex and death: they can be strong bedfellows, and that's the coupling conveyed by "Gimme Shelter," even if that coupling is more implied by the mood than definitely spelled out by the words. To further establish the sense of uneasy tension that pervades the song, the Stones took the unusual step of having some of the backup vocals, and even some of the lead vocals, sung by African-American session singer Merry Clayton, who was able to reach full, high notes that Mick Jagger could not have. "Gimme Shelter" is sometimes assumed to have been written by the band about their disastrous free concert at Altamont in December 1969, but that wasn't the case. Let It Bleed was released that very month, as it happens, but of course "Gimme Shelter" had been written and recorded sometime before that. Some pundits have mused that "Gimme Shelter" presciently foresaw the demise of the 1960s and all that decade stood for, but if it foresaw any catastrophe, one could say that was Altamont itself."
Listyguy: "Spine chilling females vocals, which add beautiful emphasis to that famous line: "Rape Murder"."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1969 live at Altamont)


6. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower



Points: 1147
Biggest fans: Listyguy (#1), Henry (#2), Nassim (#3), Rocky Raccoon (#4), Brad and Charlie Driggs (#6)
Position in AM 3000: #36 of the 1960s and #84 of all time
Position in 1968 poll: #1
Style: Psychedelic Rock
Written by Bob Dylan
Recorded by The Jimi Hendrix Experience on January 21, 1968 at Olympic Sound Studios, London, England and June-August, 1968 at Record Plant Studios, New York City produced by Jimi Hendrix. Wikipedia about the sessions at Record Plant: "engineer Tony Bongiovi has described Hendrix becoming increasingly dissatisfied as the song progressed, overdubbing more and more guitar parts, moving the master tape from a four-track to a twelve-track to a sixteen-track machine". You can find details about the sessions on Sound on Sound
Musicians: Jimi Hendrix (lead vocals, electric guitars, acoustic guitar, bass), Mitch Mitchell (drums, percussion), Dave Mason (acoustic guitar)
Released on September 21, 1968 on Reprise label in the USA (Reprise 0767) and on October 29, 1969 on Track label in the UK (Track 604025)
Highest chart position: #5 on UK Top 75 and #20 on US Billboard Hot 100

Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower / Burning of the Midnight Lamp

Lyrics quote: "Businessmen, they drink my wine / Plowmen dig my earth."
Comments: John Bush for allmusic: "Returning to the (somewhat) more straightforward narrative feel of his earlier songwriting, "All Along the Watchtower" was one of the highlights of Bob Dylan's long-awaited return to the music world, 1968's John Wesley Harding. (...) Dylan recounts a short conversation between two men, one a joker despairing that the world is filled with robbers while the other, ironically a thief, reassures him with the words: "There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke." This inversion of common roles and the obvious constraint felt by both ("There must be some way out of here" are the first words of the song) can be seen in the context of Dylan's own place in music. His year of seclusion - following a mid-1966 motorcycle accident - was seen by many as a way to slow down the rush of both industry and the media anointing him the voice of the decade. The Biblical imagery and apocalyptic words ("the hour is getting late") also point to an end-of-the-world tale, though Dylan is a notoriously difficult songwriter to pin down with the usual conventions. (...) While at a party just a few weeks after John Wesley Harding was released, Jimi Hendrix remarked to Traffic's Dave Mason that he wanted to record "All Along the Watchtower." Within a few days, the pair were in London's Olympic Studios recording with drummer Mitch Mitchell. Raging and climactic where Dylan's had been soft-paced and relaxed, Hendrix's version became a rock standard. Perhaps the most glowing tribute to Hendrix came from Dylan himself, who began performing his own song in a version closer to Hendrix's than the original."
Honorio: "A legendary four-part guitar solo: 1º bluesy with string bending 2º with slide and echo 3º with his landmark wah wah 4º with crazy funky rhythm."
nicolas: "The best Dylan cover ever. And probably one of the best guitar solos ever as well."
Listyguy: "One of the most warped covers on the planet."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1970 live at Atlanta)

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Dan M


Roy Orbison – In Dreams. The range of Roy Orbison’s voice is amazing (apparently he had a range of 4 octaves). Does someone's voice affect your appreciation of a song?

The Miracles – The Tracks of My Tears. Does anyone else wish that male singers would have the balls to show their sensitive side a bit more often?


First question : the human voice is my favorite instrument (I sing myself) so it matters very much to me. Even in real life I pay a lot of attention to people's voices (I love my wife's voice for instance, even if she can't sing !!). So if you look at my favorite singers (Springsteen, Neil Young, Brassens, Dylan, Waits, Wonder, orbison, Cash...), they all have great, distinctive voices.

Second question : I love "big boys don't cry" songs especially when they come from sexist or macho genres like soul or hard rock. I wish you could find such lyrics in rap...

Beach Boys in the top 5

It appears to me that we will have two Beach Boys songs in the top 5. If this estimation is correct, it is quite a surprise to me. I think the Beach Boys provide harmonies that are outstanding. When I saw the Beach Boys in concert in 1974, they delivered a fantastic performance as the crowd sang along with them on every song.

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Henry
It appears to me that we will have two Beach Boys songs in the top 5. If this estimation is correct, it is quite a surprise to me. I think the Beach Boys provide harmonies that are outstanding. When I saw the Beach Boys in concert in 1974, they delivered a fantastic performance as the crowd sang along with them on every song.

Yeah,maybe it's slightly surprising - thought maybe Gimme Shelter would be in the top 5 instead of Good Vibrations or Dock Of The Bay...

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Surprising? Both of those songs typically finish top 5 all-time for us!

"Gimme Shelter" down at 7 is surprising. It's hard to envision anyone ranking that song low.

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Yeah, shouldn't be too surprising to see The Beach Boys in the top 5. We actually love melodious songs as much as the next guy, we just happen to love the VU as well.

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Stephan
Yeah, shouldn't be too surprising to see The Beach Boys in the top 5. We actually love melodious songs as much as the next guy, we just happen to love the VU as well.


Perhaps the combination of:
1) TWO Beach Boys songs in the top 5, and
2) ZERO Stones songs in the top 5 could be viewed as surprising to some others (as it is to me). This is not at all an unpleasant surprise, merely unexpected.

Based on earlier remarks, I can now expect that if this type of surprise deeply perturbs others normative (controlling?) perspectives regarding surprises they will inform me promptly

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Gimme Shelter won bracketology, I though it was a shoe-in for the top 5.
Most overrated song in the top 5: A Day in the Life
Not even close to being the best Beatle's song, I don't get it's acclaim at all.
Most unnderrated: Sitin' on the Dock of the Bay
I'm loving this! It's in the top 5! I wasn't sure it would make the top 10!
Also, All Along the Watchtower finished in a great spot. Glad to see it beat out some heavy hitters.
Final five prediction:
1. Like A Rolling Stone (It can't be beat)
2. Sitin' on the Dock of the Bay (A boy can dream!)
3. God Only Knows
4. Good Vibrations
5. A Day in the Life

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Listyguy
Most overrated song in the top 5: A Day in the Life
Not even close to being the best Beatle's song, I don't get it's acclaim at all.


I would be interested in understanding your view of the other top Beatles songs in this poll.

As I recall, they were Strawberry Fields Forever and Tomorrow Never Knows. I prefer A Day in the Life to either of these. But, in my view none of these three are the best Beatles song.

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As I've said a few times before, to me A Day In The Life is just another strong song in the Beatles' collection. I don't get it's such extreme high placement.

It's hard for me to pick a favorite Beatles song, but in addition to Strawberry Fields and Tomorrow Never Knows, I would consider While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Norwegian Wood, Eleanor Rigby, She Said She Said, and a few others.

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Stephan
Yeah, shouldn't be too surprising to see The Beach Boys in the top 5. We actually love melodious songs as much as the next guy, we just happen to love the VU as well.


There is an interesting book that discusses VU at length at http://books.google.com/books?id=JNctDAFKuioC&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=ellen+willis+velvet+underground&source=bl&ots=8vwwKZNOMw&sig=JfE6NP0jcMEGeHsqkonRwpxFNb4&hl=en&ei=-ATnTY7uNIL0swOkwc2TDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ellen%20willis%20velvet%20underground&f=false

Please check out pages 71-81. In my view the article provides a very positive and deeply insightful review of VU with some interesting comparisons to The Who.

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Listyguy
I've never seen why A Day in the Life is so loved

Maybe you could find interesting a 2009 thread about this. I posted there my Ten Reasons why I love so much "A Day in the Life" (despite having also "Strawberry Fields Forever" higher on my list). Maybe I can reproduce it in this thread too. But later because now it's time for the...

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5. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay



Points: 1177
Biggest fans: nicolas (#1), Listyguy (#3), Henry (#5), Rocky Raccoon (#6), Honorio (#7), Jackson (#10)
Position in AM 3000: #5 of the 1960s and #7 of all time
Position in 1968 poll: #3
Style: Southern Soul
Written by Steve Cropper and Otis Redding
Recorded by Otis Redding on November 22 and December 8, 1967 at Stax Studios, Memphis, Tennessee produced by Steve Cropper (Redding died in a plane crash on December 10, 1967, only two days after the session)
Musicians: Otis Redding (vocals and whisltling), Steve Cropper (guitars), Booker T Jones (keyboards), Donald 'Duck' Dunn (bass), Alan Jackson Jr. (drums), Ben Cauley and Wayne Jackson (trumpets), Andrew Love and Tommy Lee Williams (saxes)
Released on January 8, 1968 on Volt label (Volt 45-157)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard Hot 100 (and #1 on Billboard Hot R&B Sides)

Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay / Sweet Lorene

Lyrics quote: "Sittin' here resting my bones / And this loneliness won't leave me alone."
Comments: Matthew Greenwald for allmusic: "Otis Redding's only record that went to the top of both the pop and R&B charts was, sadly, only realized after his untimely passing. The song itself gave birth after Redding's breakout at the Monterey International Pop Festival. After the performance, Redding took a well-deserved break and laid low in a houseboat that he rented on the Monterey Peninsula. The song's easy groove and calm feel no doubt reflected Redding's state of mind at the time. It's an odd combination of folk, soul, and country, but it works like a charm. Lyrically, the pain of artistry and the rigors of the entertainment industry were wearing on him, and it's to his credit that he was able to convey this so poetically. Steve Cropper lovingly embellished the track after Redding's death, and it ends up being a tribute to his artistry. Brilliant."
Honorio: "Like Spanish hero Cid, Otis Redding won battles after his death. Steve Cropper mixed this track that Otis recorded just before dying in a plane crash. A calm song that was composed in a rented houseboat at San Francisco Bay after the Monterey Festival, pointing that "nothing’s gonna change / everything still remains the same". He had already conquered the throne of soul in Monterey, but this great song gives us an idea of the heights he could have reached."
Listyguy: "Brilliant vocals by Otis, and an epic whistle solo."
nicolas: "Or how to make the perfect song: melody, lyrics, magical performance by Otis (special mention to Steve Cropper's guitar). The song in which black and white music blend together. The bridge "look out, nothing’s gonna change" is probably one of the best 15 seconds of music in the sixties. Rest in peace, man."

You Tube link


4. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations



Points: 1207
Biggest fans: Mindrocker (#1), Henry, Stephan and Otisredding (#3), Honorio (#8 ), Charlie Driggs and Rocky Raccoon (#10)
Position in AM 3000: #3 of the 1960s and #3 of all time
Position in 1966 poll: #2
Style: Sunshine Pop
Written by Mike Love and Brian Wilson
Recorded by The Beach Boys on February 17,18 and 25, May 24, June 2, 16 and 18, August 24 and September 1, 1966 at Gold Star Studios, United Western Studios and Sunset Sound Studios, Hollywood, California produced by Brian Wilson
Musicians: Brian Wilson (lead vocals on falsetto, chorus and bridge), Carl Wilson (lead vocals on verses, bass guitar and percussion), Mike Love (lead vocals on chorus and bridge), Dennis Wilson (vocals, Hammond organ), Al Jardine (vocals), Bruce Johnston (vocals), Hal Blaine and Jim Gordon (drums, percussion), Glen Campbell (guitar), Paul Tanner (electro-theremin), Don Randi (harpsichord), Larry Knechtel (Hammond organ), Al de Lory (tack piano), Carol Kaye and Ray Pohlman (bass guitar), Jimmy Bond and Lyle Ritz (upright bass), Tommy Morgan (harmonica) and Jesse Ehrlich (cello)
Released on October 10, 1966 on Capitol label (Capitol 5676)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard Hot 100 and on UK Top 75

The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations / Let's Go Away for Awhile

Lyrics quote: "I'm pickin' up ggod vibrations / She's givin' me the excitations."
Comments: John Bush for allmusic: " "Good Vibrations," the Beach Boys' 1966 entry into the best-single-of-all-time sweepstakes, announced the coming era of pop experimentation with a rush of riff changes, echo-chamber effects, and intricate harmonies, plus the very first theremin ever heard on a pop record. The natural grace of the song belied the months of recording and mountain of tape reels it required, however. Though Brian Wilson's self-described "pocket symphony" was his masterpiece, its creation effectively put the coda on his production career and he was never the same again. (...) The single is so catchy it's no wonder radio stations played it to death, but "Good Vibrations" is an amazingly free-form song. It's just barely connected to the verse-chorus-verse standard for pop songs, continually switching from section to section -- all of them just partially related -- in a fragmented style that allies it with the cut-and-paste efforts of '60s experimentalists like William Burroughs. It utilized every one of the session-master instrumentalists Wilson had collected during the previous few years, plus a few unlikely instruments including cellos and a theremin. The latter, an electric instrument whose invention dated to 1919, produced an eerie, high-pitched tone that modulated its pitch and volume based on the player's hand movements above and next to the instrument."
Honorio: "Brian Wilson made a titanic effort to obtain what many people consider the best song ever. Seven months of recordings in three different recording studios, creating small musical fragments later placed in a meticulous sound collage, complex but accessible, innovative but addictive, luminous, magical, exciting. But now we know that this creative effort left the unstable Brian exhausted and disturbed."

You Tube link
You Tube link (1967 TV performance)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 5-4

So it's these three rascals again!

For my money I think Like A Rolling Stone will take it (though my heart wishes God Only Knows), though I heartily endorse any way that these last three go, since I love them all so much.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

So, here we are, with the same three pictures that we can see in the beginning of the thread. Now Lennon is looking at Dylan wondering if the #1 could go to "Like a Rolling Stone" and Macca looks to Brian Wilson asking himself if "God Only Knows" would be the chosen one. And Dylan and Wilson are looking at the Fab Two wondering if "A Day in the Life" would deserve the top spot.



I suppose that (almost) everyone expected to find these three songs on the Top 3 of our poll. The same three topped our All-Time Songs Poll of the years 2008 and 2010, and two of them topped the 2005 Poll too. These were the historical results for these songs in our polls (by the way, Stephan, there is no link for the Part 2 of the results of the 2010 Songs Poll in the "History of AM Forum Polls" thread):
- A Day in the Life: #1 in the 2005 poll, #1 in 2008 and #3 in 2010.
- God Only Knows: #5 in 2005, #3 in 2008 and #2 in 2010.
- Like a Rolling Stone: #2 in 2005, #2 in 2008 and #1 in 2010.
So, what do you think? Will the Beatles reconquer their 2005 and 2008 throne? Will the Beach Boys continue their upward trend and win this time? Will Dylan reassure his 2010 position?
Final results in 24 hours...

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

I see we had some foreshadowing. Very clever.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

Forgive me for lowering the tone, but I couldn't resist. I'm feeling a bit cheeky this evening, so get your cringe on...

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

It's too bad the Supremes couldn't find a place in the top 100. I believe they're certainly deserving of a spot.
I suppose you could say the same for many others.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

Honorio
(by the way, Stephan, there is no link for the Part 2 of the results of the 2010 Songs Poll in the "History of AM Forum Polls" thread):

Oops, sorry, Stephan, this is the correct link

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-1

So, here we are, with the same three pictures that we can see in the beginning of the thread. Now Lennon is looking at Dylan wondering if the #1 could go to "Like a Rolling Stone" and Macca looks to Brian Wilson asking himself if "God Only Knows" would be the chosen one. And Dylan and Wilson are looking at the Fab Two wondering if "A Day in the Life" would deserve the top spot.


Honorio, you are like Machiavel ! ;-)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-2

And now the final countdown, no more machiavelic delays. Ladies and gentlemen...


3. The Beatles - A Day in the Life



Points: 1237
Biggest fans: Charlie Driggs and Chris K (#1), Harold Wexler and Miguel (#2), Brad (#5), Henrik and Rocky Raccon (#7), Chris (#8 )
Position in AM 3000: #12 of the 1960s and #20 of all time
Position in 1967 poll: #1
Style: Psychedelic Pop
Written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney
Recorded by The Beatles on January 19 and 20, February 3 and 10, 1967 at EMI Studios, London, England produced by George Martin
Musicians: John Lennon (lead vocals on verses, acoustic guitar, maracas, piano on final chord), Paul McCartney (lead vocals on middle-eight, piano, bass), George Harrison (maracas), Ringo Starr (drums, congas, piano on final chord), George Martin (harmonium on final chord), Mal Evans (alarm clock, counting, piano on final chord), John Marston (harp), Lionel Bentley, D. Bradley, Henry Datyner, Hans Geiger, Erich Gruenberg, Jurgen Hess, Granville Jones, Bill Monro, David McCallum, Sidney Sax, Ernest Scott and Donald Weekes (violin), Bernard Davis, Gwynne Edwards, John Meek and John Underwood (viola), Alan Delziel, Francisco Gabarro, Alex Nifosi and Dennis Vigay (cello), Cyril Mac Arther and Gordon Pearce (double bass), Roger Lord (oboe), Jack Brymer and Basil Tschaikov (clarinet), N. Fawcett and Alfred Waters (bassoon), David Sandeman and Clifford Seville (flute), Alan Civil and Neil Sanders (french horn), Harold Jackson, David Mason and Monty Montgomery (trmpet), Raymond Brown, T. Moore and Raymond Premru (trombone), Michael Barnes (tuba) and Tristan Fry (timpani)
Released on June 1, 1967 on Parlophone label in the UK and on Capitol label in the USA as the thirteenth (and last) song on the album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" (Parlophone PCS 7027 and Capitol SMAS 2653)
Highest chart position: #1 on US Billboard 200 and on UK Albums Chart (the album)

The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Lyrics quote: "I read the news today, oh boy / About a lucky man who made the grade."
Comments: Richie Unterberger for allmusic: " "A Day in the Life" was one of the most complex and ambitious Lennon-McCartney songs performed by the Beatles, providing an incendiary climax for their Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. It was also the most outstanding instance in which two discrete song fragments - one primarily by John Lennon, the other by Paul McCartney - were combined into one to build a whole greater than the sum of the parts. "A Day in the Life" is an unexpectedly mordant coda to an album noted for epitomizing the Summer of Love. (...) As is heard in several of Lennon's songs in 1966 and 1967, he seems largely uninterested in the outside world, and more intrigued by withdrawing into himself and the mind, whether with the aid of psychedelic chemicals or otherwise. The orchestral section suddenly ends just as it seems it can't wind itself into any higher a key, immediately followed by a basic, jaunty McCartney tune about waking up and going to work. By itself, this McCartney tune certainly wouldn't have been much. What made it effective was its juxtaposition next to Lennon's dreamier sections. The implication seemed to be that Lennon's was the dream world, and McCartney's a literal rude awakening to reality, ending when the narrator of McCartney's bit slides back into a dream. Lennon then takes over again, with haunting wordless vocals of Olympian import, ending with a brief brass fanfare before the last verse."
Honorio: "Lennon wrote a song from fragments of newspapers (it was usual for him then), played acoustic guitar and sang with a haunting beautiful voice. McCartney wrote and sang a middle section, played piano and bass and was responsible for the drug references ("I had a smoke / and I went into a dream" or "I’d love to turn you on"). And Starr played the best drums you can actually hear on a Beatles song."

You Tube link
You Tube link (take 1 recorded on 01/19/1967)
You Tube link (deconstructing "A Day in the Life")


2. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows



Points: 1269
Biggest fans: Charlie Driggs, Chris, Chris K, Honorio and Jackson (#3), Harold Wexler and sonofsamiam (#4), Stephan (#7)
Position in AM 3000: #25 of the 1960s and #51 of all time
Position in 1966 poll: #1
Style: Baroque Pop
Written by Tony Asher and Brian Wilson
Recorded by The Beach Boys on March 10, 1966 (instrumental) at United Western Studios, Hollywood, California and on April 11, 1966 (vocals) at Columbia Studios, Hollywood, California produced by Brian Wilson
Musicians: Carl Wilson (lead vocals, backing vocals, guitar), Brian Wilson (backing vocals), Bruce Johnston (backing vocals), Hal Blaine (drums), Jim Gordon (percussion), Don Randi (piano), Larry Knechtel (Hammond organ), Lyle Ritz (upright bass), Carol Kaye and Ray Pohlman (electric bass), Carl Fortina and Frank Morocco (accordion), Leonard Hartman (clarinet), Bill Green and Jim Horn (flute), Alan Robinson (French horn), Jay Migliori (baritone saxophone), Leonard Malarsky and Sid Sharp (violin), Darrell Terwilliger (viola) and Jesse Ehrlich (cello)
Released on July 11, 1966 on Capitol label as the B-side of "Wouldn't It Be Nice" (Capitol 5706)
Highest chart position: #39 on US Billboard Hot 100 (the A-side went to #8 ) and #2 on UK Top 75 (where it was considered the A-side)

The Beach Boys - God Only Knows / Wouldn't It Be Nice

Lyrics quote: "The world could show nothing to me / So what good would living do me."
Comments: Donald A Guarisco for allmusic: "The Beach Boys recorded many a gorgeous pop tune over the years but few were ever quite as transcendentally lovely as "God Only Knows." The song's clever lyrics form a first-person narrative where the narrator assures his beloved of his good intentions, climaxing with the phrase "God only knows what I'd be without you." The simple but direct and heartfelt sentiments make the lyric intoxicatingly romantic (and its mention of God raised a few eyebrows at the time). However, it's the music that really makes "God Only Knows" something special. It avoids the typical verse-chorus pop song structure to create something more personalized: It starts with two verses that weave a lovely melody higher with each stanza but maintain tension by bringing it down before it peaks, then gives way to a soaring and wordless vocal bridge, then goes through a final verse before climaxing with a gorgeous circular chorus that ends the song on a sunny note. The Beach Boys recording of "God Only Knows" brings the song's warmth out thanks to a clever Brian Wilson vocal arrangement that contrasts Carl Wilson's mellow solo vocal on the verses with multi-textured group harmonies on the bridge and chorus. Wilson adds additional ear candy with an orchestral pop backing track that layers warm horn arrangements and creamy strings over insistent percussion designed to give the song a dramatic pulse. The end result is a song that has the orchestral loveliness of a ballad but all the power and forward drive of a good pop tune."
Listyguy: "A twisted love song."
nicolas: "Celestial harmonizing, especially in the end."
Honorio: "If someone would ask me about my favourite minute of music (although why the hell somebody could ask me that) I would choose for sure the last minute of "God Only Knows", where the vocal harmonies of the boys from the beach goes intertwining and intertwining forming a spiral that elevates (you) to heaven."

You Tube link
You Tube link (excerpts from 03/10/1966 recording session)
You Tube link (a cappella version, fantastic first two minutes, it brings tears to my eyes)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: position 1

The Number 1


1. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone



Points: 1411
Biggest fans: Harold Wexler, Honorio and Stephan (#1), Chris and Mindrocker (#2), Chris K and Jackson (#4), Charlie Driggs, Rocky Raccoon and sonofsamiam (#5)
Position in AM 3000: #1 of the 1960s and #1 of all time
Position in 1965 poll: #1
Style: Folk Rock
Written by Bob Dylan
Recorded by Bob Dylan on June 16, 1965 at Columbia Studio A, New York City produced by Tom Wilson
Musicians: Bob Dylan (lead vocals, electric guitar, harmonica), Mike Bloomfield (electric guitar), Al Kooper (Hammond organ), Paul Griffin (piano), Joe Macho Jr. (bass), Bobby Gregg (drums) and Bruce Langhorne (tambourine)
Released on July 20, 1965 on Columbia label (Columbia 4-43346)
Highest chart position: #2 on US Billboard Hot 100 (still the biggest Dylan hit to date)

Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone / Gates of Eden

Lyrics quote: "When you got nothing / You got nothing to lose."
Comments: James Gerard for allmusic: "One of the most self-righteous and eloquent indictments ever committed to wax, Like a Rolling Stone filters Bob Dylan's indignation for pseudo-bohemian sixties' scenesters through his legendary wit. If Dylan's first incarnation was as a protest singer, Like a Rolling Stone signals the era of Dylan as court jester/verbal assassin. Ironically, the former darling protest singer finds himself fighting a war of his own, defending his move to electric instrumentation from the attacks of a verbally violent horde of pacifists. And so it is with a single rifle-crack of the snare that Like a Rolling Stone kicks off Dylan's first completely electric album, 1965's Highway 61 Revisited. Michael Bloomfield's raw scale-climbing guitar is accented at every turn by (guitarist turned pianist turned organist) Al Kooper's triumphant and meta-influential Hammond organ riff. Together they create a circus-like jubilance, a sound that is later perfected in Dylan's classic double album Blonde on Blonde. Bloomfield and friends, though decidedly electric', are able to retain Dylan's trademark hypnotic groove; a subtle element that propels his best and wordiest acoustic songs. The end result is a 6-minute-plus single that flourishes on notoriously time-conscious commercial radio. Dylan says Like a Rolling Stone is distilled from a 24-page short story he wrote about a society girl turned lonely street urchin. Yet as in one theory of dream analysis, where every character is an aspect of oneself, it could just as easily be argued that there is some self-referential songwriting going on here, too. Ultimately, this band rollicks through the song with such focus and fury, and Dylan wails with such conviction, that the end result transcends logic and theory - and inspires a half-century's worth of musicians, writers and artists."
Listyguy: " "Vomitific" lyrics."
nicolas: "1965. Dylan drops acoustic folk and decides to plug his guitar one night in Newport, to the great displeasure of folk purists like Pete seeger who wanted to cut his jack with an axe. Folk-rock was born. Two masterpieces will come out of it: the garage rockin’ Highway 61 and the hybrid Bringing It All Back Home. Why do I tell you this instead of talking about the song? Just because you don’t talk about the most acclaimed song in the world. You play it and you open your ears."
Honorio: "Bruce Springsteen once described the drum hit at the beginning of "Like a Rolling Stone" like the "snare shot that sounded like somebody’d kicked open the door to your mind". And it’s not an exaggeration from a crazy fan, this snare shot opened a lot of doors: it introduced folk into rock (and rock into folk), it introduced literature and poetry into pop lyrics and it introduced adulthood complexities into a mostly teenager style."

Video link
Video link (quite interesting homemade video)
You Tube link (1966 legendary live version at 'Royal Albert Hall' - it was really at Manchester -, someone in the audience shouts: "Judas!", Dylan answers: "I don't believe you, you're a liar", then turns his back to the audience and says to the band: "Play fuckin' loud!")





The last video (with the closing titles of the wonderful Scorsese movie "No Direction Home") is a suitable closer for our poll.
That was all, my dear friends (plus some stats tomorrow).


It all began long time ago, I was so much older then. On March 17, 2009 I told Henrik while we were drinking some beers at the Café La Infanta on the Plaça del Tossal in Valencia (see above) that I would like to host the 1960s poll, a decade that I'm in love with. After some ballots the AMers decided to include also a 1950s poll and later even a 1900-1949 songs poll (that it's now the part that I'm more proud of). On December of 2009 I began to listen to music from the early 1950s and now a long year and a half later we finally got across the finishing line.
I would like to apologize for the ridiculous delay on posting the results. I began studying a Master degree from September to June 2011 that, along with my exhausting daily work and my family obligations, reduced my spare time to Sundays (and not all of them).
Anyway I enjoyed a lot hosting this poll, surfing through the Internet looking for photographs, for You Tube videos, for data about recording studios or dates of single releases, but mainly surfing through your wonderful lists (specially during the 1940-1949 poll). It has been a long journey but I did it with the best company possible, all of you. I would like to thank each and everyone that participated in the poll, that sent lists and made comments on the different threads, including (of course) my beloved Magnificent Seven. This was a journey so exciting because of you.
I learned a lot from you during this trip. I'm not only now (musically talking) wiser that when it all began but even, paraphrasing the winner of the Songs poll, "I was so much older then / I'm younger than that now".

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-2

Noooooooo ! The worst song of the universe in the first place. The life is unfair !!!!!!!!
How it's possible to support this voice, the sound of a dental drill mixed to a Scottish pipe.



Whatever, Honorio like usual, your job is perfect.

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That is the most amazing metaphor for Bob Dylan's voice ever ^_^

I really don't know what to say about the result - those three songs are so drilled into my consciousness that how on earth can I say that the Beatles' masterpiece is better than Bob's? Or Brian Wilson's? In my mind it's only fair to say that they're all number 1's, towering over everything else like few other songs. And lastly, this is surely the gold standard in poll presenting, with videos, comments, and analysis at every song (I verged on tears to the Beach Boys video as well). Bravo Honorio. Gold ribbon for you!

Re: The 1960s songs poll: position 1

Honorio

It all began long time ago, I was so much older then. On March 17, 2009 I told Henrik while we were drinking some beers at the Café La Infanta on the Plaça del Tossal in Valencia (see above) that I would like to host the 1960s poll, a decade that I'm in love with. After some ballots the AMers decided to include also a 1950s poll and later even a 1900-1949 songs poll (that it's now the part that I'm more proud of). On December of 2009 I began to listen to music from the early 1950s and now a long year and a half later we finally got across the finishing line.
This was a journey so exciting because of you.
I learned a lot from you during this trip. I'm not only now (musically talking) wiser that when it all began but even, paraphrasing the winner of the Songs poll, "I was so much older then / I'm younger than that now".


cool story, bro.

does anyone know how to write that in unsarcasmish?
coz i was so much more real life, i'm internet by now.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-2

Romain
Noooooooo ! The worst song of the universe in the first place.

Come on, that's a little harsh. Justin Beiber might have some objections.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: positions 3-2

he or Chesney Hawkes..

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Honorio, it grew like a beast for you but you saw so much beauty that you were unstoppable!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
(I don't find words to how much I really appreciate your work.)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 1)

Hi, my friends, Henrik, nj, Listyguy, Romain, Zorg, many thanks for all the warm compliments!!


Time for the individual Top 20s, the individual Bottom 3 (as I promised) and some correlation coefficients (for the complete lists and the complete correlations you can download the Excel file).
Note:
- Overall correlation means the correlation coefficient between a particular voter and the rest of the voters, I will call #1 the one with lower correlation (the "different" one) and #20 the one with the higher (the "normal" one).
- Best friends means the ones with higher particular correlation coefficient, I will name three in ranked order (the first one the one with higher correlation). I will call also the one with lower correlation your "worst foe".
- John is the one with the lowest correlation with the rest of the voters and the one with higher amount of foes. Since he did not vote for the whole Top 100 I'm not sure (please help, Henrik) if this fact could have affected the correlations.


Brad:

The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset / Act Nice and Gentle

1. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
2. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
3. The Zombies - Hung Up on a Dream
4. Simon & Garfunkel - America
5. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
6. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
7. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
8. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
9. Love - Alone Again Or
10. The Zombies - Time of the Season
11. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
12. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
13. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
14. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
15. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
16. The Beatles - In My Life
17. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Venus in Furs
18. Bob Dylan - Mr. Tambourine Man
19. Bob Dylan - Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
20. Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
...
98. Elvis Presley - Return to Sender
99. The Crystals - He's a Rebel
100. Quincy Jones - Soul Bossa Nova


Overall correlation: 0.34 (#10)
Best friends: Mindrocker, Honorio, Chris/Harold Wexler
Worst foe: nicolas



Charlie Driggs:

The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

1. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
2. The Zombies - Hung Up on a Dream
3. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
4. Booker T. & the MG's - Green Onions
5. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
6. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
7. Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade of Pale
8. The Zombies - Time of the Season
9. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
10. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
11. The Doors - Light My Fire
12. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
13. Dionne Warwick - Walk on By
14. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
15. Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
16. Bernard Herrmann - Psycho: Prelude
17. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
18. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
19. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
20. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
...
98. Ray Charles - Georgia on My Mind
99. Bob Dylan - Blowin' in the Wind
100. Elvis Presley - Can't Help Falling in Love


Overall correlation: 0.48 (#19)
Best friends: Jackson, Rocky Raccoon, Honorio
Worst foe: John



Chris:

The Beatles - Revolver

1. The Beatles - For No One
2. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
3. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
4. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
5. Love - Alone Again Or
6. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
7. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
8. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
9. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
10. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
11. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
12. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
13. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
14. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
15. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
16. The Beatles - In My Life
17. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
18. The Beatles - She Loves You
19. Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
20. David Bowie - Space Oddity
...
98. The Zombies - Hung Up on a Dream
99. Rev. Gary Davis - Death Don't Have No Mercy
100. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan

Overall correlation: 0.73 (#20)
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Listyguy, Henry
Worst foe: John



Chris K:

The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

1. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
2. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Venus in Furs
3. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
4. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
5. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
6. The Beatles - In My Life
7. Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna
8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Hey Joe
9. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
10. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
11. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
12. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
13. Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
14. The Band - The Weight
15. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
16. The Shirelles - Will You Love Me Tomorrow
17. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
18. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
19. The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
20. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
...
98. Sam Cooke - Bring It on Home to Me
99. Booker T. & the MG's - Green Onions
100. John Barry Orchestra - The James Bond Theme


Overall correlation: 0.38 (#11)
Best friends: sonofsamiam, Jackson, Chris/John
Worst foe: Henry



Harold Wexler:

Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone / Gates of Eden

1. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
2. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
3. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
4. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
5. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
6. The Beatles - In My Life
7. Bob Dylan - A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
9. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
10. Love - Alone Again Or
11. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
12. The Band - The Weight
13. The Righteous Brothers - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
14. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
15. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
16. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
17. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
18. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
19. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
20. Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
...
98. Quincy Jones - Soul Bossa Nova
99. Henry Mancini - Moon River
100. John Barry Orchestra - The James Bond Theme


Overall correlation: 0.40 (#14)
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Chris, Listyguy
Worst foe: Henrik/John



Henrik:

Bernard Herrmann - Psycho

1. Bernard Herrmann - Psycho: Prelude
2. Dick Dale and the Del-Tones - Miserlou
3. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
4. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
5. Nick Drake - River Man
6. David Bowie - Space Oddity
7. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
8. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
9. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
10. John Barry Orchestra - The James Bond Theme
11. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
12. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
13. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
14. Stan Getz/João Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
15. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
16. Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
17. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
18. Patsy Cline - Crazy
19. Etta James - At Last
20. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
...
98. The Beatles - For No One
99. The Crystals - He's a Rebel
100. Gene Chandler - Duke of Earl


Overall correlation: 0.34 (#9)
Best friends: Mindrocker, Honorio, Charlie Driggs
Worst foe: John



Henry:

The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction / The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man

1. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
2. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
3. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
4. Aretha Franklin - Respect
5. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
6. The Kinks - You Really Got Me
7. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
8. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
9. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
10. The Band - The Weight
11. Simon & Garfunkel - America
12. Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
13. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
14. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
15. The Beatles - For No One
16. Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
17. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
18. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
19. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
20. David Bowie - Space Oddity
...
98. Rev. Gary Davis - Death Don't Have No Mercy
99. The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight
100. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning


Overall correlation: 0.34 (#8 )
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Chris, Listyguy
Worst foe: Jackson



Honorio:

Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone / Gates of Eden

1. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
2. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
3. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
4. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
5. Henry Mancini - Moon River
6. Simon & Garfunkel - America
7. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
8. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
9. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
10. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
11. Love - Alone Again Or
12. Stan Getz/João Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
13. The Zombies - Time of the Season
14. The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
15. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
16. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
17. Dionne Warwick - Walk on By
18. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
19. Nick Drake - River Man
20. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
...
98. Elvis Presley - Return to Sender
99. Gene Chandler - Duke of Earl
100. The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight


Overall correlation: 0.39 (#13)
Best friends: sonofsamiam, Chris K/Henrik/John
Worst foe: Listyguy (sorry, guy, you know I love you)



Jackson:

The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset / Act Nice and Gentle

1. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
2. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
3. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
4. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
5. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
6. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan
7. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
8. The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
9. The Zombies - Hung Up on a Dream
10. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
11. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
12. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
13. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Venus in Furs
14. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
15. Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
16. The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby
17. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
18. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
19. The Doors - Light My Fire
20. The Band - The Weight
...
98. The Marcels - Blue Moon
99. The Righteous Brothers - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
100. The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight


Overall correlation: 0.28 (#6)
Best friends: Chris K, sonofsamiam, Charlie Driggs
Worst foe: Henry



John:

The Beach Boys - I Get Around / Don't Worry Baby

1. The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby
2. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
3. Sam Cooke - Bring It on Home to Me
4. Roy Orbison - In Dreams
5. The Zombies - She's Not There
6. The Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
7. Simon & Garfunkel - America
8. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Sunday Morning
9. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
10. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
11. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
12. The Zombies - Time of the Season
13. Stan Getz/João Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
14. Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
15. The Everly Brothers - Cathy's Clown
16. The Beach Boys - In My Room
17. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
18. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
19. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
20. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Hey Joe
...
92. Little Eva - The Loco-Motion
93. Quincy Jones - Soul Bossa Nova
94. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman


Overall correlation: 0.01 (#1)
Best friends: Chris K, Honorio, sonofsamiam
Worst foe: Romain

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 2)

Listyguy:

Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower / Burning of the Midnight Lamp

1. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
2. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
3. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
4. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
5. The Who - My Generation
6. Bob Dylan - Mr. Tambourine Man
7. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
8. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
9. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
10. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
11. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
12. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
13. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
14. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
15. David Bowie - Space Oddity
16. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
17. The Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
18. Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna
19. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
20. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
...
98. Quincy Jones - Soul Bossa Nova
99. Bernard Herrmann - Psycho: Prelude
100. The Marcels - Blue Moon


Overall correlation: 0.43 (#162)
Best friends: Chris, Rocky Raccoon, Henry
Worst foe: John



Miguel:

The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset / Act Nice and Gentle

1. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
2. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
3. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
4. The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight
5. The Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
6. Simon & Garfunkel - America
7. The Kinks - You Really Got Me
8. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
9. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
10. The Beach Boys - I Get Around
11. Love - Alone Again Or
12. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
13. The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby
14. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
15. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
16. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
17. Sam Cooke - Wonderful World
18. The Beach Boys - In My Room
19. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
20. Elvis Presley - Return to Sender
...
98. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
99. The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
100. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan


Overall correlation: 0.40 (#15)
Best friends: Honorio, Henry, Chris/Harold Wexler
Worst foe: Stephan



Mindrocker:

The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations / Let's Go Away for Awhile

1. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
2. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
3. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
4. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
5. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
6. Dick Dale and the Del-Tones - Miserlou
7. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Venus in Furs
8. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
9. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
10. The Who - My Generation
11. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
12. The Zombies - Time of the Season
13. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
14. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
15. The Band - The Weight
16. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
17. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
18. The Beatles - She Loves You
19. Johnny Kidd and the Pirates - Shakin' All Over
20. The Beatles - Please Please Me
...
98. Roy Orbison - In Dreams
99. The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby
100. Ray Charles - Georgia on My Mind


Overall correlation: 0.48 (#18 )
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Chris, Brad
Worst foe: sonofsamiam



Nassim:

Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left

1. Nick Drake - River Man
2. David Bowie - Space Oddity
3. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
4. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
5. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
6. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
7. Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
8. Jacques Brel - Amsterdam
9. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
10. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
11. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
12. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
13. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
14. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
15. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
16. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
17. The Who - My Generation
18. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
19. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
20. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
...
98. The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight
99. John Barry Orchestra - The James Bond Theme
100. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan


Overall correlation: 0.38 (#12)
Best friends: Mindrocker, Jackson, Charlie Driggs
Worst foe: Otisredding


nicolas:

Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay / Sweet Lorene

1. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
2. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
3. Jacques Brel - Amsterdam
4. The Doors - Light My Fire
5. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
6. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
7. John Coltrane - My Favorite Things
8. Roy Orbison - In Dreams
9. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
10. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
11. Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
12. Rev. Gary Davis - Death Don't Have No Mercy
13. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
14. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
15. Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
16. The Beatles - For No One
17. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
18. David Bowie - Space Oddity
19. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Hey Joe
20. Johnny Kidd and the Pirates - Shakin' All Over
...
98. Elvis Presley - Return to Sender
99. The Crystals - He's a Rebel
100. Bernard Herrmann - Psycho: Prelude


Overall correlation: 0.32 (#7)
Best friends: Romain, Chris, Listyguy/Stephan
Worst foe: Brad


Otisredding:

Roy Orbison - In Dreams / Shahdaroba

1. Roy Orbison - In Dreams
2. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
3. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
4. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
5. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
6. Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
7. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
8. Aretha Franklin - Respect
9. Stan Getz/João Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
10. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
11. Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna
12. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
13. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
14. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
15. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
16. Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
17. Love - Alone Again Or
18. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
19. Ray Charles - Georgia on My Mind
20. Bob Dylan - A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
...
98. Dick Dale and the Del-Tones – Miserlou
99. The Beatles - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
100. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black


Overall correlation: 0.19 (#3)
Best friends: sonofsamiam, Listyguy, Chris
Worst foe: John



Rocky Raccoon:

The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction / The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man

1. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
2. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
3. The Who - My Generation
4. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower
5. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
6. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
7. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
8. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
9. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
10. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
11. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
12. Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
13. The Band - The Weight
14. Aretha Franklin - Respect
15. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
16. Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
17. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze
18. The Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
19. The Doors - Light My Fire
20. The Beatles - In My Life
...
98. Jacques Brel – Amsterdam
99. Nick Drake - River Man
100. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman


Overall correlation: 0.47 (#17)
Best friends: Chris, Henry, Listyguy
Worst foe: sonofsamiam



Romain:

The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun / Talkin' 'Bout You

1. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
2. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
3. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
4. David Bowie - Space Oddity
5. Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
6. Ben E. King - Stand By Me
7. Aretha Franklin - Respect
8. The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
9. Jane Birkin avec Serge Gainsbourg - Je t'aime... moi non plus
10. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
11. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
12. Sam Cooke - Wonderful World
13. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Hey Joe
14. The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
15. Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
16. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
17. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
18. The Doors - Light My Fire
19. The Kinks - You Really Got Me
20. The Kingsmen - Louie Louie
...
98. John Coltrane - My Favorite Things
99. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
100. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan


Overall correlation: 0.20 (#4)
Best friends: Listyguy/nicolas, Henrik
Worst foe: John



sonofsamiam:

Sam Cooke - Ain't That Good News

1. Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come
2. Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
3. Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Masterplan
4. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
5. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
6. John Coltrane - My Favorite Things
7. The Ronettes - Be My Baby
8. The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
9. The Zombies - Hung Up on a Dream
10. Nick Drake - River Man
11. Dionne Warwick - Walk on By
12. Stan Getz/João Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
13. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
14. The Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
15. Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
16. Sam Cooke - Bring It on Home to Me
17. The Beatles - A Day in the Life
18. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
19. Roy Orbison - Crying
20. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
...
98. Gene Chandler - Duke of Earl
99. The Doors - Light My Fire
100. The Beatles - Love Me Do


Overall correlation: 0.19 (#2)
Best friends: Chris K/Honorio, Jackson
Worst foe: Rocky Raccoon



Stephan:

Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone / Gates of Eden

1. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone
2. Bob Dylan - Desolation Row
3. The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
4. Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
5. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
6. The Who - My Generation
7. The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
8. The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
9. The Band - The Weight
10. The Animals - The House of the Rising Sun
11. Bob Dylan - Blowin' in the Wind
12. The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black
13. Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna
14. The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
15. The Velvet Underground & Nico - Heroin
16. The Jackson 5 - I Want You Back
17. The Kinks - You Really Got Me
18. The Mama's and the Papa's - California Dreamin'
19. The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
20. The Beach Boys - I Get Around
...
98. The Beatles - Love Me Do
99. Little Eva - The Loco-Motion
100. The Beatles - Please Please Me


Overall correlation: 0.25 (#5)
Best friends: Jackson, Rocky Raccoon, nicolas
Worst foe: John



Lower individual correlation: John/Romain (-0.33)
Higher individual correlation: Chris/Rocky Raccoon (0.63)

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 1)

Honorio
- John is the one with the lowest correlation with the rest of the voters and the one with higher amount of foes. Since he did not vote for the whole Top 100 I'm not sure (please help, Henrik) if this fact could have affected the correlations.
I don't think that affects John's correlations much, but what I did find was that the correlations are based on row 2-51, instead of 2-101 as it should be. The album sheet also has this error. Tip: If you update the table, just mark the correlation section and "replace all" 51 to 101.

And guess what, when I recalculated the correlations, you became my best friend!

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 1)

I can't believe I'm Mindrocker's worst foe ... something about that just seems wrong. (Though I'm sure statistically it's right.)

Honorio, let me leap in -- INCREDIBLE work on this, the '50s, and the pre-'50s polls and roll-outs.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 1)

So me and Henry are officially polar opposites. I guess that makes sense because of "The VU Factor."

I think it's amazing how universal the love for "God Only Knows," "Like a Rolling Stones," and some of the other top songs was. It seems like no matter how dissimilar some of the voters' tastes were, they still placed these highly.

Also, amazing job with the correlations, Honorio. I wish I knew how to do stuff like that when I presented lists.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the individual Top 20s (part 1)

Henrik
but what I did find was that the correlations are based on row 2-51, instead of 2-101 as it should be. The album sheet also has this error.

So does this mean that all the correlations were wrong and calculated from the Top 50 and not the Top 100?
Probably this happened because I used the 50s poll sheet that only got 50 albums.
Well, I’m going to recalculate it, post the new correlations and update the Excel file.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

Brad:
Overall correlation: 0.61 (#15)
Best friends: Harold Wexler, Listyguy, Honorio
Worst foe: Miguel

Charlie Driggs:
Overall correlation: 0.51 (#9)
Best friends: Jackson, Mindrocker, Honorio
Worst foe: Miguel

Chris:
Overall correlation: 0.55 (#12)
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Listyguy, Henry
Worst foe: John

Chris K:
Overall correlation: 0.53 (#11)
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Brad, Honorio
Worst foe: nicolas

Harold Wexler:
Overall correlation: 0.72 (#20)
Best friends: Listyguy, Rocky Raccoon, Brad
Worst foe: Romain

Henrik:
Overall correlation: 0.44 (#5)
Best friends: Honorio, Mindrocker/Romain
Worst foe: Henry

Henry:
Overall correlation: 0.50 (#8 )
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Chris, Harold Wexler
Worst foe: Henrik/John

Honorio:
Overall correlation: 0.62 (#16)
Best friends: Brad, Henrik/John
Worst foe: Henry

Jackson:
Overall correlation: 0.71 (#19)
Best friends: Stephan, sonofsamiam, Harold Wexler
Worst foe: Miguel

John:
Overall correlation: 0.36 (#2)
Best friends: Honorio, Jackson, Brad/Chris K/sonofsamiam
Worst foe: Mindrocker

Listyguy:
Overall correlation: 0.64 (#18 )
Best friends: Rocky Raccoon, Harold Wexler, Chris
Worst foe: Henrik

Miguel:
Overall correlation: 0.26 (the new #1)
Best friends: Chris, Honorio, Henry
Worst foe: sonofsamiam

Mindrocker:
Overall correlation: 0.49 (#7)
Best friends: Charlie Driggs, Henrik, Chris
Worst foe: John

Nassim:
Overall correlation: 0.58 (#14)
Best friends: Jackson, Honorio, nicolas
Worst foe: Miguel

nicolas:
Overall correlation: 0.51 (#9)
Best friends: Stephan, Jackson, Harold Wexler
Worst foe: Miguel

Otisredding:
Overall correlation: 0.38 (#3)
Best friends: Harold Wexler, Rocky Raccoon, Listyguy
Worst foe: John

Rocky Raccoon:
Overall correlation: 0.63 (#17)
Best friends: Chris/Listyguy, Harol Wexler
Worst foe: sonofsamiam

Romain:
Overall correlation: 0.39 (#4)
Best friends: Henrik, Rocky Raccoon, Chris
Worst foe: John

sonofsamiam:
Overall correlation: 0.46 (#6)
Best friends: Jackson, Honorio, Harold Wexler
Worst foe: Miguel

Stephan:
Overall correlation: 0.57 (#13)
Best friends: Jackson, Harold Wexler, Listyguy
Worst foe: Miguel



Lower individual correlation: John/Romain (-0.11)
Higher individual correlation: Chris/Rocky Raccoon and Listyguy/Rocky Raccoon (0.62)


The updated Excel file

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

For the correlations, does being closer to 1 mean you conform more with the forum's opinions?

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

Yes, that's it.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

I checked which songs that have the lowest and highest standard deviations. Lowest is Del Shannon's "Runaway", which everyone had between place 34 and 79. Highest is, very surprisingly to me, Nick Drake's "River Man". The placements are 1-5-10-19-23-23-25-29-57-70-77-79-81-84-88-91-92-93-95-99. How could so many of you put such a wonderful song near the end of your list?

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

Yes, Henrik, it's surprising. Never thought that this song could be so polarizing, only three of us put it in positions between 26-75. And 10 of 20 put it in positions 76-100!!! Not me, of course, it was my #19

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

Henrik
How could so many of you put such a wonderful song near the end of your list?

Probably because they couldn't hear it!
I had it at 95, which I admit is a little too low (but this is 6 months later...) But, I'm not really a big fan of Drake.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the correlations

It's funny that I have the same number 1 as my apparent worst enemy, Miguel. Then I see his bottom three and understand why. Those are three spectacular songs, top 100 all-time for me. Miguel also may have been responsible for the surprisingly low (for me) placement of "Gimme Shelter."

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the cities (and the studios)

While I was looking for information about the recording of the 60s songs I became fascinated with the recording studios where all this wonderful music was recorded (and even created), maybe because I'm now building a small recording studio at my own home. The place of the recording made an everlasting mark on the sound of most of the recordings on the list, with distinctive sounds as London mod, rhythm & blues and beat (you know, the Mersey beat was almost entirely recorded in London), Los Angeles sunshine pop and psychedelic rock, New York folk-rock and art rock, Nashville country or Memphis-Detroit soul. So I've been compiling the cities (or states or countries), expecting initially a NYC victory only to find a tie between London and California. Those were the results:



1a. London, England, with 29 songs: the 60s swinging London had a major impact in our list and obviously the songs recorded by the Fab Four at EMI Studios (later named oficially Abbey Road Studios) were the main responsible for this (see above). But they were not the ones recording in Abbey Road, the songs by the Shadows and the Zombies in our list were also recorded there. And there were a lot of other studios: Olympic Sound (Hendrix, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, Procol Harum), De Lane Lea (the favourite of Chas Chandler that recorded there with the Jimi Hendrix Experience and the Animals) and many others like Pye Studios (The Kinks), Trident Studios (David Bowie), IBC Studios (The Who, The Kinks), Fontana Studios (Serge Gainsbourg), Sound Techniques (Nick Drake), Decca Studios (The Zombies) or CTS Studios (John Barry Seven).




1b. Hollywood and Los Angeles, California, with another 29 songs: the second half of the decade displaced the soptlight from the swinging London to the countercultural California. The studios more frequently represented in our list are the Western Recorders where Brian Wilson recorded most of works of the Beach Boys (see above). Other mythical studios that appear in our list are Gold Star Studios (home of the Phil Spector “wall of sound”, also used by the Beach Boys), RCA Studios (The Rolling Stones, Sam Cooke, Henry Mancini) or Sunset Sound Studios (Love, the Doors). The other studios are Elektra Studios (RollingStones), Fantasy Studios (CCR), The Sound Factory (Jackson 5), TTG Studios (The Velvet Underground), Columbia Studios (Simon & Garfunkel, Johnny Cash), Capitol Studios (Glen Campbell), Sound Enterprises (Sam Cooke) and Radio Recorders (Elvis Presley). Many of the artists were not from California (VU, Stones, S&G) but came there because of the technical advances.




3. New York City, with 25 songs: the lively cultural life of the Big Apple rendered an impressive number of great recordings. The New York studio more represented in our list is Columbia Studio A at 799 Seventh Avenue (see above) where Bob Dylan recorded all his records from the first one until he moved to Nashville in the middle of the sessions of "Blonde on Blonde". Other mythical studios we can find are Atlantic Studios (Aretha Franklin, John Coltrane, Ben E. King) or the Record Plant Studios (where Hendrix recorded most of his Electric Ladyland). Other ones are Mayfair Studios (Velvet Underground), A&R Studios (The Band, Getz/Gilberto, Quincy Jones), Hit Factory (The Stooges), Bell Sound Studios (Dionne Warwick, Del Shannon), RCA Studios (Pharoah Sanders, the Tokens, The Marcels) or Capitol Studios (Ray Charles).




4. Memphis and Nashville, Tennessee, with 8 songs: black and white, blues and country, Memphis and Nashville, rock and roll. Two cities in the State of Tenneessee that played a crucial part on 1950s music but still continued in the 1960s. Some legendary studios from this state appear in our list: the Stax Studios in Memphis (see picture 1) where Otis Redding or Booker T. & the MGs created the Stax sound, the RCA Studio B (see picture 2) where Roy Orbison or the Everly Brothers (and Elvis Presley) traveled from rock & roll to pop and Bradley Film & Recording Studios were Patsy Cline became countrypolitan. Other studios in our list were Columbia Studios (where Bob Dylan came looking for a place where "they got no clocks", in Bob Johnston words) and Monument Records Studios (where Orbison recorded "In Dreams").




5. Detroit, Michigan, with 3 songs: talking about mythical studios it was time to came to Hitsville USA Studio in Detroit, Michigan, home of Motown records where a group of excellent producers, musicians (the Funk Brothers) and singers (in our list Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson and the Four Tops, with the Suprenes unfairly absent) created the immortal Motown sound.




6. Chicago, Illinois, with 2 songs: although the golden era for the Chess Records Studios were the 1950s where they recorded crucial songs, they continued to record solid gems during the 60s like Etta James' "At Last". Gene Chandler also recorded in Chicago his "Duke of Earl" but I don't know where exactly.




7. Other cities, with 1 song each:
- Paris, France: Jacques Brel never recorded his great "Amsterdam" in a studio, the only version was recorded live at the Théâtre de l'Olympia.
- Portland, Oregon: The Kingsmen recorded his garage gem "Louie Louie" at a tiny recording studio (Northwestern Recording) in one-hour Saturday morning session in a single take that only costed $36.
- Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Blind Gary Davis recorded his album "Harlem Street Singer" at Van Gelder Studio, the studio where avant-garde jazz was created ("A Love Supreme", "Out of Lunch!").
- Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Blind Gary Davis recorded his album "Harlem Street Singer" at Van Gelder Studio (see above), the studio where avant-garde jazz was created ("A Love Supreme", "Out to Lunch!").
- Seattle, Washington: The Ventures recorded "Walk - Don't Run" at Joe Boles' Studios in Seattle.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the cities (and the studios)

Great information Honorio!!

Please note that my understanding is that Fantasy Studios, which you included in the 1b. Hollywood and Los Angeles, California grouping is actually in Berkeley, California.

From Wikipedia I found the following:

Fantasy Studios, now owned by Wareham Development, is still operating in the Zaentz Media Center in Berkeley and continues its legacy in recording and mixing. Through the reshuffling, many top acts and engineers alike work out of the original building, which has now incorporated a multitude of mixed media projects. Fantasy Studios is a Bay Area landmark, as well as an award-winning studio whose repertoire includes Creedence Clearwater Revival, Green Day and Carlos Santana to NPR's "Hearing Voices" series. Top sound engineers Adam Muñoz, Jesse Nichols and Alberto Hernandez work at Fantasy Studios.

Re: The 1960s songs poll: the cities (and the studios)

Yes, Henry, I know, look at the Creedence entry. I grouped the studios in states (in fact I grouped too Nashville and Memphis).
Glad you liked it.

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