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UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

Vote for your winners, results posted tomorrow:
#1 David Bowie vs. #16 Carole King
#8 Bo Diddley vs. #9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin vs. #12 Wilson Pickett
#4 Miles Davis vs. #13 Traffic
#3 Pink Floyd vs. #14 Tommy James
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash vs. #11 The Young Rascals
#7 Four Tops vs. #10 Carl Perkins
#2 Neil Young vs. #15 Paul Revere & The Raiders

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

#1 David Bowie
#8 Bo Diddley
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

Chalk! The only hard choice was between Bo and Love.

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#12 Wilson Pickett
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

Thanks!

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

David Bowie
Love
Janis Joplin
Miles Davis
Pink Floyd
CSN
Four Tops
Neil Young

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

#1 David Bowie
#8 Bo Diddley
#12 Wilson Pickett
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops - I do like Perkins a lot. But Levi Stubbs is one of my favorite soul singers.
#2 Neil Young

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

Seriously loaded bracket today!

#1 David Bowie

#8 Bo Diddley (Both are very deserving artists, but this is not a difficult choice for me at all. Bo is my personal favorite 50s rocker.)

#12 Wilson Pickett (Not a hard call. Janis is one of the artists I think of when I think of the 60s generation getting too much credit. And Wilson was fantastic – and could do histrionic singing very well too, thank you very much.

#4 Miles Davis

#3 Pink Floyd

Ehhh…pass.

#7 Four Tops (I’m seriously tempted to go with Carl Perkins, though.)

#2 Neil Young

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#1 David Bowie (closer for me than most others)
#8 pass
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#12 Wilson Pickett
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash (does Déjà Vu count here?)
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

Why is Carole King a #16?

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

Alex D
Why is Carole King a #16?


I’m wondering the same thing, Alex D. Following up on my post on the Time in yesterday’s thread, there’s something I’m just not getting about the seedings here.

Carole King’s AM artist rank is #162. Here’s a random sampling of artists from the 50/60s region who are ranked higher than her, along with their AM ranks:

Ricky Nelson (#947)
Chicago (#1024)
Grand Funk Railroad (#1448)
Paul Revere & the Raiders (#1479)
Three Dog Night (#1898)
Neil Diamond (#1982)
Dean Martin (#2133)

Carole King, then, is MUCH more critically acclaimed than all of these guys (so, for that matter, is her fellow 16-seed, Dusty Springfield (AM rank #193)). And I think I can safely say she’s had similar (or greater) chart/sales success to all of them...I can almost guarantee that none of the others have had an album that outsold Tapestry.

All I can think is that there's something in the seedings which penalizes artists with short careers. What do you say, Slick?

(Disclosure: I don’t even like Carole King.)

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

#1 David Bowie
#8 Bo Diddley
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
pass (Don't know Tommy James)
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

David Bowie
Love
Wilson Pickett
Miles Davis
Pink Floyd
CSN
Four Tops
Neil Young

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#12 Wilson Pickett
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

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David Bowie
Love
pass
Miles Davis
Pink Floyd
pass
pass
Neil Young

The top four seeds in this bracket are amazing. Can't believe Love will probably lose the first round.

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#3 Pink Floyd
#6 Crosby, Stills & Nash
#7 Four Tops
#2 Neil Young

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Bowie (Damn it!)
Love
Janis
Miles
Floyd
Pass
Tops
Neil
Ms. King could have won a few of these.

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#1 David Bowie
#9 Love
#5 Janis Joplin
#4 Miles Davis
#14 Tommy James
#11 The Young Rascals
#7 Four Tops
#15 Paul Revere & The Raiders

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

schleuse
Alex D
Why is Carole King a #16?


I’m wondering the same thing, Alex D. Following up on my post on the Time in yesterday’s thread, there’s something I’m just not getting about the seedings here.

Carole King’s AM artist rank is #162. Here’s a random sampling of artists from the 50/60s region who are ranked higher than her, along with their AM ranks:

Ricky Nelson (#947)
Chicago (#1024)
Grand Funk Railroad (#1448)
Paul Revere & the Raiders (#1479)
Three Dog Night (#1898)
Neil Diamond (#1982)
Dean Martin (#2133)

Carole King, then, is MUCH more critically acclaimed than all of these guys (so, for that matter, is her fellow 16-seed, Dusty Springfield (AM rank #193)). And I think I can safely say she’s had similar (or greater) chart/sales success to all of them...I can almost guarantee that none of the others have had an album that outsold Tapestry.

All I can think is that there's something in the seedings which penalizes artists with short careers. What do you say, Slick?

(Disclosure: I don’t even like Carole King.)


After the first one finished Slick had an open call for artist lists, and those artist lists became a major component in seeding.

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

BillAdama
schleuse
Alex D
Why is Carole King a #16?


I’m wondering the same thing, Alex D. Following up on my post on the Time in yesterday’s thread, there’s something I’m just not getting about the seedings here.

Carole King’s AM artist rank is #162. Here’s a random sampling of artists from the 50/60s region who are ranked higher than her, along with their AM ranks:

Ricky Nelson (#947)
Chicago (#1024)
Grand Funk Railroad (#1448)
Paul Revere & the Raiders (#1479)
Three Dog Night (#1898)
Neil Diamond (#1982)
Dean Martin (#2133)

Carole King, then, is MUCH more critically acclaimed than all of these guys (so, for that matter, is her fellow 16-seed, Dusty Springfield (AM rank #193)). And I think I can safely say she’s had similar (or greater) chart/sales success to all of them...I can almost guarantee that none of the others have had an album that outsold Tapestry.

All I can think is that there's something in the seedings which penalizes artists with short careers. What do you say, Slick?

(Disclosure: I don’t even like Carole King.)


After the first one finished Slick had an open call for artist lists, and those artist lists became a major component in seeding.


http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3172289350&frmid=10&msgid=1092035&cmd=show

Along with how they did in the last UMT and a small contribution for how they ranked on AM. It is not a perfect science and not everyone will be happy about the results, but it gave the tournament some guidelines.

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

Bowie
Bo
Pickett
Miles
Floyd
Rascals
Tops
Neil

Re: UMT2:60's Region, Bracket #4

David Bowie 93.1% / Carole King 6.9%
Bo Diddley 57.1% / Love 42.9%
Janis Joplin 60.7% / Wilson Pickett 29.3%
Miles Davis 89.7% / Traffic 10.3%
Pink Floyd 92.9% / Tommy James 7.1%
Crosby, Stills & Nash 85.2% / The Young Rascals 14.8%
Four Tops 96.4% / Carl Perkins 3.6%
Neil Young 89.7% / Paul Revere & The Raiders 10.3%