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The 60s poll: the final round

Hi again, dear Amers. Before posting the results of the 1940-1949 and 1950s polls let’s post the Excel files of the final round of the 60s poll so you can begin to vote if you want it. So it’s time now for us to vote for the best 100 albums and 100 songs of the 1960s according to the selection on the previous rounds.

Please download this Excel file and send it back with your personal order to my e-mail hbarranco@telefonica.net before the 31st of December. Hope that this time the file could work for everyone.

As usual, comments on your choices are extremely welcome.


The 100 albums selected for the final round are:
1. 13th Floor Elevators, The - The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators
2. Band, The - Music From Big Pink
3. Band, The - The Band
4. Beach Boys, The - Pet Sounds
5. Beach Boys, The - Today!
6. Beatles, The - Abbey Road
7. Beatles, The - A Hard Day's Night
8. Beatles, The - Help!
9. Beatles, The - Magical Mystery Tour
10. Beatles, The - Revolver
11. Beatles, The - Rubber Soul
12. Beatles, The - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
13. Beatles, The - The Beatles (White Album)
14. Beatles, The - With the Beatles
15. Bland, Bobby - Two Steps from the Blues
16. Booker T. & the M.G.s - Green Onions
17. Brassens, Georges - Nº 7
18. Brel, Jacques - Ces gens-là
19. Brel, Jacques - Jacques Brel
20. Brown, James - Live at the Apollo
21. Brown Jr., Oscar - Sin & Soul
22. Byrds, The - Fifth Dimension
23. Byrds, The - Mr. Tambourine Man
24. Byrds, The - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
25. Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Safe as Milk
26. Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
27. Cash, Johnny - At Folsom Prison
28. Charles, Ray - Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music
29. Cohen, Leonard - Songs of Leonard Cohen
30. Coltrane, John - A Love Supreme
31. Coltrane, John - Giant Steps
32. Coltrane, John - My Favorite Things
33. Davis, Miles - Sketches of Spain
34. Dolphy, Eric - Out to Lunch!
35. Doors, The - The Doors
36. Drake, Nick - Five Leaves Left
37. Dylan, Bob - Another Side of Bob Dylan
38. Dylan, Bob - Blonde on Blonde
39. Dylan, Bob - Bringing It All Back Home
40. Dylan, Bob - Highway 61 Revisited
41. Dylan, Bob - John Wesley Harding
42. Dylan, Bob - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
43. Dylan, Bob - The Times They Are A-Changin'
44. Evans, Bill - Sunday at the Village Vanguard
45. Evans, Bill - Waltz for Debby
46. Frank, Jackson C. - Jackson C. Frank
47. Franklin, Aretha - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
48. Getz, Stan & Gilberto, Joao - Getz/Gilberto (Featuring Antonio Carlos Jobim)
49. Hardy, Françoise - Tous les garçons et les filles
50. Hendrix, Jimi - Are You Experienced
51. Hendrix, Jimi - Axis: Bold as Love
52. Hendrix, Jimi - Electric Ladyland
53. Howlin' Wolf - Howlin' Wolf
54. Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow
55. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
56. Kinks, The - Face to Face
57. Kinks, The - Something Else by The Kinks
58. Kinks, The - The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
59. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
60. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II
61. Love - Forever Changes
62. Mamas and the Papas, The - If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears
63. Mayall, John - Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton
64. Millennium, The - Begin
65. Mingus, Charles - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
66. Monks, The - Black Monk Time
67. Montgomery, Wes - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery
68. Morricone, Ennio - Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo
69. Morrison, Van - Astral Weeks
70. Mutantes, Os - Os Mutantes
71. Original Soundtrack - West Side Story
72. Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
73. Redding, Otis - Complete & Unbelievable: The Otis Redding Dictionary of Soul
74. Redding, Otis - Otis Blue / Otis Redding Sings Soul
75. Rolling Stones, The - Aftermath
76. Rolling Stones, The - Beggars Banquet
77. Rolling Stones, The - Let It Bleed
78. Rolling Stones, The - Out of Our Heads
79. Sanders, Pharoah - Karma
80. Silver, Horace - Song for My Father
81. Simon & Garfunkel - Bookends
82. Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme
83. Simon & Garfunkel - Sounds of Silence
84. Simone, Nina - Pastel Blues
85. Sly & the Family Stone - Stand!
86. Sonics, The - Here Are the Sonics!!!
87. Springfield, Dusty - Dusty in Memphis
88. United States of America, The - The United States of America
89. Various - A Christmas Gift for You From Philles Records
90. Velvet Underground, The - The Velvet Underground
91. Velvet Underground, The - The Velvet Underground & Nico
92. Velvet Underground, The - White Light/White Heat
93. Walker, Scott - Scott 4
94. Who, The - My Generation
95. Who, The - The Who Sell Out
96. Who, The - Tommy
97. Young, Neil - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
98. Zappa, Frank/The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out!
99. Zappa, Frank/The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in It for the Money
100. Zombies, The - Odessey and Oracle

Like I did for the 50s poll I’ve done two Spotify playlists with all the albums available but, unlike the 50s (in which only “Moondog and His Friends” was not on Spotify) there are many notable absences, including The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Frank Zappa, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, The Monks and “Trout Mask Replica”. Moreover some albums are only available incompletely. That's the case of “Nº 7”, “Ce gens-là”, “Live at the Apollo”, “Sunday at the Village Vanguard”, “Face to Face”, “Something Else”, “Begin”, “The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady”, “Karma”, “Here Are the Sonics!!!” and “Scott 4”. Anyway you still can find here 755 songs and 44 hours of awesome music. Lots of things to discover (I just discovered “Sin & Soul” by Oscar Brown Jr. and I liked it a lot).

The Spotify links with the 60s albums: Part 1 (albums 1-58) and Part 2 (albums 59-100).


And the 100 songs selected are:
1. Animals, The - The House of the Rising Sun
2. Band, The - The Weight
3. Barry Orchestra, John - James Bond Theme
4. Beach Boys, The - Don't Worry Baby
5. Beach Boys, The - God Only Knows
6. Beach Boys, The - Good Vibrations
7. Beach Boys, The - I Get Around
8. Beach Boys, The - In My Room
9. Beatles, The - A Day in the Life
10. Beatles, The - A Hard Day's Night
11. Beatles, The - Eleanor Rigby
12. Beatles, The - For No One
13. Beatles, The - Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
14. Beatles, The - In My Life
15. Beatles, The - Love Me Do
16. Beatles, The - Please Please Me
17. Beatles, The - She Loves You
18. Beatles, The - Strawberry Fields Forever
19. Beatles, The - Tomorrow Never Knows
20. Birkin, Jane et Gainsbourg, Serge - Je t'aime... moi non plus
21. Booker T. & the M.G.s - Green Onions
22. Bowie, David - Space Oddity
23. Brel, Jacques - Amsterdam
24. Campbell, Glen - Wichita Lineman
25. Cash, Johnny - Ring of Fire
26. Chandler, Gene - Duke of Earl
27. Charles, Ray - Georgia on My Mind
28. Cline, Patsy - Crazy
29. Coltrane, John - My Favorite Things
30. Cooke, Sam - A Change Is Gonna Come
31. Cooke, Sam - Bring It on Home to Me
32. Cooke, Sam - Wonderful World
33. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son
34. Crystals, The - He's a Rebel
35. Dale, Dick - Miserlou
36. Davis, Reverend Gary - Death Don't Have No Mercy
37. Doors, The - Light My Fire
38. Drake, Nick - River Man
39. Dylan, Bob - A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
40. Dylan, Bob - Blowin' in the Wind
41. Dylan, Bob - Desolation Row
42. Dylan, Bob - Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
43. Dylan, Bob - Like a Rolling Stone
44. Dylan, Bob - Mr. Tambourine Man
45. Dylan, Bob - Subterranean Homesick Blues
46. Dylan, Bob - Visions of Johanna
47. Everly Brothers, The - Cathy's Clown
48. Franklin, Aretha - Respect
49. Four Tops - Reach Out I'll Be There
50. Gaye, Marvin - I Heard It Through the Grapevine
51. Getz, Stan & Gilberto, João - The Girl From Ipanema
52. Hendrix, Jimi - All Along the Watchtower
53. Hendrix, Jimi - Hey Joe
54. Hendrix, Jimi - Purple Haze
55. Hendrix, Jimi - Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
56. Herrmann, Bernard - Psycho: Prelude
57. Jackson 5, The - I Want You Back
58. James, Etta - At Last
59. Jones, Quincy - Soul Bossa Nova
60. Kidd, Johnny & the Pirates - Shakin' All Over
61. King, Ben E. - Stand By Me
62. Kingsmen, The - Louie Louie
63. Kinks, The - Waterloo Sunset
64. Kinks, The - You Really Got Me
65. Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
66. Little Eva - The Loco-Motion
67. Love - Alone Again Or
68. Mamas & the Papas, The - California Dreamin'
69. Mancini, Henry - Moon River
70. Marcels, The - Blue Moon
71. Orbison, Roy - Crying
72. Orbison, Roy - In Dreams
73. Orbison, Roy - Only the Lonely (Know the Way I Feel)
74. Presley, Elvis - Can't Help Falling in Love
75. Presley, Elvis - Return to Sender
76. Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade of Pale
77. Redding, Otis - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay
78. Righteous Brothers, The - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
79. Robinson, Smokey & the Miracles - The Tracks of My Tears
80. Rolling Stones, The - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
81. Rolling Stones, The - Gimme Shelter
82. Rolling Stones, The - Paint It, Black
83. Rolling Stones, The - Sympathy for the Devil
84. Ronettes, The - Be My Baby
85. Sanders, Pharoah - The Creator Has a Masterplan
86. Shadows, The - Apache
87. Shannon, Del - Runaway
88. Shirelles, The - Will You Love Me Tomorrow
89. Simon & Garfunkel - America
90. Stooges, The - I Wanna Be Your Dog
91. Tokens, The - The Lion Sleeps Tonight
92. Velvet Underground, The - Heroin
93. Velvet Underground, The - Sunday Morning
94. Velvet Underground, The - Venus in Furs
95. Ventures, The - Walk - Don't Run
96. Warwick, Dionne - Walk On By
97. Who, The - My Generation
98. Zombies, The - Hung Up on a Dream
99. Zombies, The - She's Not There
100. Zombies, The - Time of the Season

I did another Spotify playlist for the songs, with a more manageable 6 hours of music. I’ve included the 100 songs, replacing the non available ones for covers (I chose not the best covers but the ones more similar to the original). Here’s the link for the Top 100 songs of the 60s.

Place your votes, gentlemen and send it to hbarranco@telefonica.net. And don’t forget to include your comments. Many thanks in advance to the ones that are willing to participate.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Honorio
Here’s the link for the Top 100 songs of the 60s.
Honorio, a big thank you for providing these Spotify links with every poll. They really make my life easier! However, here's another and definitely superior version of Bernard Herrmann's "Psycho: Prelude". Joel McNeely - Psycho: Prelude

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Honorio, if there's a delay of the presentation of the decade polls, would it be OK to move forward the deadline for the 1960s lists? I haven't listened to all the albums yet and I don't know if I will have any spare time during Christmas.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Of course, Henrik (and everyone), the new deadline will be when I post the Top 10 songs of the 1950s (hope that it could be on mid January)

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Practically every album I hadn't heard yet has blown me away. Ces Gens-Là, Complete & Unbelievable, Sin & Soul, they're all in or close to my top 250 of all-time now. Love it.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Honorio
Of course, Henrik (and everyone), the new deadline will be when I post the Top 10 songs of the 1950s (hope that it could be on mid January)


Is this still the deadline? Just so I know when to send in my '60s ballot.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Rocky Raccoon
Honorio
Of course, Henrik (and everyone), the new deadline will be when I post the Top 10 songs of the 1950s (hope that it could be on mid January)


Is this still the deadline? Just so I know when to send in my '60s ballot.


Yes, I too, am a bit unsure about when the deadline is. I wouldn't want to miss my chance to participare!

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Hey, was just wondering what the scoring system would be. Mainly if I haven't heard an album would it be punished in the rankings? I wouldn't want my ignorance to have such an effect.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Sorry for not replying earlier, the 31st of January is OK for me. The rest of January I will be busy posting the results of the 1950s poll.
About the scoring system is the same as the previous polls but I cannot explain it properly (I simply used the Excel file of previous polls with the formula on it). About the albums that didn't recieve votes get tied after the last album voted (for instance if you voted for 78 albums the albums not voted got tied at #79 and receive the points for that position). So, Zorg, don't be afraid to vote, your list will be welcome.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Honorio
Sorry for not replying earlier, the 31st of January is OK for me. The rest of January I will be busy posting the results of the 1950s poll.
About the scoring system is the same as the previous polls but I cannot explain it properly (I simply used the Excel file of previous polls with the formula on it). About the albums that didn't recieve votes get tied after the last album voted (for instance if you voted for 78 albums the albums not voted got tied at #79 and receive the points for that position). So, Zorg, don't be afraid to vote, your list will be welcome.
Honorio, that is not the original decade scoring system. What we have done in the previous decade polls is giving unranked albums the mid-position. In your example, the 100 - 78 = 22 unranked albums would be assigned to place 39.5. Now, this may look too good for unheard albums, but it's a skewed score distribution so that the difference between #1 and #39.5 is much greater than the difference between #39.5 and #78. We have discussed this several times before, for example here: http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3172289350&frmid=10&msgid=1019881&cmd=show

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Oops, thanks, Henrik. So probably I've done incorrectly the calculations for the 50s poll!!! If you don't mind I'm going to send you the excel files before posting the results and please tell me if there's something wrong.
So Zorg's question was providential!!

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Honorio
If you don't mind I'm going to send you the excel files before posting the results and please tell me if there's something wrong.
No problem, but would it be ok to remove most of the columns before sending it to me? I don't want to know the results before the countdown.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

I sent my 60's list last night.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

I sent my list today.
Thanks Honorio.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Mine are sent too.

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Many thanks for your list, boys.
So far we got 14 lists, only two more than the 50s. Since I still haven’t written mine (but I’ll do) we can count with 15. It would be nice getting to 20 or so. So please the ones that still don’t know what to do I recommend to try it, you don’t need to listen to the whole albums, simply vote for the one you know (many of them are widely known).
I have received vote so far from nj, sonofsamiam, Henry, Mindrocker, Georgie, nicolas, Harold Wexler, Stephan, Gillingham, Brad, Miguel, Listyguy, John, Henrik and Romaint. No need to say that all the list were fantastic. Is someone else sent his list and it’s not one of those names please let me know.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

I'll really try to get mine done (At least my album list), but I've been very busy.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

I have all the songs ranked, but I'll wait a few more days to submit so I can listen to a few more albums.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Great, boys, I'm looking forward to see your lists!

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

After receiving five lists more, the ones from Chris, Rocky Raccoon, Charlie Driggs, Nassim and Jackson we have a total of 20 lists (just the number I was hoping for!) so the 60s poll is now officially closed. Finally I missed Zorg and BillAdama lists (but don’t worry, there’s a lot to work in and to enjoy happening right now in AM Forum!). I haven’t compiled the votes yet but the first inspection to your lists reveal that the results are going to be great. You can expect the first results for the next week. Many thanks to al the voters!!

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

When are you going to post the results Honorio?

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I was planning to begin... today!
I wish I could post the results in a week or so (but probably not given my historical background, haha). If not I’m afraid I should stop for some days in the middle of the posting to find some time to write my own lists for 2000.
And I wish that the 60s threads could raise more general interest than the 50s ones. I mean, a thread about the Black Eyes Peas concert at the Super Bowl got almost the same views (in fact even more since at least one third of the views on the 1950s poll come from myself). No bitterness here, the 1950s music is so far-off that it’s difficult to interest young people (especially in the middle of the end of year lists). But since the music for the 60s is more widely known and lauded I think I can expect more visits. Or so I wish...

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

As excited as I am to see your 1960's presentation (and results!), Honorio, I for one wouldn't mind waiting while you take a well deserved break for a bit after the work you put into the '50's poll.

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I was around for the results of the 50's poll and definitely will be fot the results of this one. And chances are much bigger that I will post now and then this time.

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Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. My big thesis deadline is March 1st. If this happened any other time in the last few years, I would have randomly done it one day when I was bored.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

BillAdama
Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. My big thesis deadline is March 1st. If this happened any other time in the last few years, I would have randomly done it one day when I was bored.


Good luck with the thesis. What is the topic?

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Well, the 60's are a much more popular decade on this forum than the 50's, the number of votes alone shows this.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Henry
BillAdama
Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. My big thesis deadline is March 1st. If this happened any other time in the last few years, I would have randomly done it one day when I was bored.


Good luck with the thesis. What is the topic?


Natural language processing. I'm coding a program that can parse english sentences, and testing whether N-gram based disambiguation can be improved by combining together data from syntactically similar words.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

BillAdama
Henry
BillAdama
Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. My big thesis deadline is March 1st. If this happened any other time in the last few years, I would have randomly done it one day when I was bored.


Good luck with the thesis. What is the topic?


Natural language processing. I'm coding a program that can parse english sentences, and testing whether N-gram based disambiguation can be improved by combining together data from syntactically similar words.


This title bring forth many new questions to which you can apply your abundant disambiguation skills:

Is this thesis for a Computer science department?

At which university?

Do you foresee this technique have any use in voice recognition technologies?

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

You write about Watson, that computer that whooped Ken Jenning's ass on Jeopardy.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Henry


This title bring forth many new questions to which you can apply your abundant disambiguation skills:

Is this thesis for a Computer science department?

At which university?

Do you foresee this technique have any use in voice recognition technologies?


Information Technology with Software Engineering focus, Harvard Extension School.

With more development it might have some use in voice recognition but right now the time complexity is too...exponential for that to be effective. To be useful for voice recognition, it would need to make smarter decisions about which parsing trees are worth pursuing along the way.

The basic idea could probably be applied to voice recognition though, since the concept is to overcome the problem of sparseness of data.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

BillAdama
Henry


This title bring forth many new questions to which you can apply your abundant disambiguation skills:

Is this thesis for a Computer science department?

At which university?

Do you foresee this technique have any use in voice recognition technologies?


Information Technology with Software Engineering focus, Harvard Extension School.

With more development it might have some use in voice recognition but right now the time complexity is too...exponential for that to be effective. To be useful for voice recognition, it would need to make smarter decisions about which parsing trees are worth pursuing along the way.

The basic idea could probably be applied to voice recognition though, since the concept is to overcome the problem of sparseness of data.


Have you developed any patent applications based on your innovations?

If you do submit some patent applications, I would be especially interested in seeing them when they are published. You may also want to talk to the company Nuance if you are looking for employment related to voice recognition technology. Good luck!!

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Honorio, ¿ya no se puede votar?. No me he enterado de que había esta encuesta abierta. Lástima.

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Bueno, tengo los votos para álbumes ya contabilizados y a punto de empezar. Si quieres votar para las canciones...

Re: The 60s poll: the final round

Si no es demasiado problema lo hago ahora mismo. Si te parece los contabilizas. Gracias

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BillAdama
Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. My big thesis deadline is March 1st. If this happened any other time in the last few years, I would have randomly done it one day when I was bored.
I know what position you are in. I have to hand in my master's thesis on March third...