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Hello. I have a webstie, where I am conduting a poll on the greatest songs of all time. I decided to do this after I read the joke of a list at rollingstone.com. If you wish to contribute to my list, please post what you think the 50 greatest songs of all time are. Or, you could email me what you think the 50 greatest songs of all time are at listyguy@gmail.com. This is NOT a favorite song list.
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1. Stairway To Heaven, Led Zeppelin
2. Like a Rolling Stone, Bob Dylan
3. Satisfaction, The Rolling Stones
4. Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen
5. Let it Be, The Beatles
6. Johnny B. Goode, Chuck Berry
7. Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix
8. My Generation, the Who
9. Hound Dog, Elvis Presley
10.That’ll be the Day, Buddy Holly
11.You Really Got Me, the Kinks
12.Strawberry Fields forever, The Beatles
13.Respect, Aretha Franklin
14.Layla, Derek and the Dominoes
15.Hotel California, Eagles
16.Papa’s Got a Bran new Bag, James Brown
17.A Day in the Life, the Beatles
18.Superstition, Stevie wonder
19.Born to Run, Bruce Springsteen
20.Bridge over troubled water, Simon and Garfunkel
21.Smells Like teen spirit, Nirvana
22.California Girls, Beach boys
23.Gimme shelter, The Rolling Stones
24.Rock around the clock, Billy Haley
25.Born to be wild, Steppenwolf
26.Anarchy in the UK, sex Pistols
27.Heartbreak hotel, Elvis Presley
28.Changes, David Bowie
29.Sunday Bloody Sunday, U2
30.Sweet Child O’ Mine, Guns N’ Roses
31.Jailhouse Rock, Elvis Presley
32.I want you back, Jackson 5
33.Proud Mary, CCR
34.When Doves Cry, Prince
35.Whole Lotta Love, Led Zeppelin
36.Billie Jean, Michael Jackson
37.Every Breath You Take, The Police
38.Jumpin jack flash, Rolling Stones
39.Brown eyed girl, Van Morrison
40.All along the watchtower, Jimi Hendrix
41.In my Life, The Beatles
42.Dream on, Aerosmith
43.Mr. Tambourine man, Bob Dylan
44.I still haven’t found what I’m looking for, U2
45.American Pie, Don McClean
46.London Calling, The Clash
47.No Women No Cry, Bob Marley
48.What I'd Say, Ray Charles
49.Yesterday, The Beatles
50.Back in Black, AC/DC
define "greatest". do you mean most important and influential or just great regardless of influence? and just being honest here but i really don't see what distinguishes your list from Rolling Stone's, it has virtually all the same songs.
I think you raised a lot of good points, Michael. However, how many of the artists you listed actually have a career-defining song good enough to be top 50 all time?
The Velvet Underground: Should definitely be featured; "Heroin," "I'm Waiting for the Man," or "Sister Ray" would make sense.
Brian Eno: I love him, but which song do you choose?
King Crimson: "21st Century Schizoid Man" is one of my favorites and is borderline T50.
Captain Beefheart: None of his tracks stand out.
Can: I know they made your #1 song, but I just don't think it belongs this high.
The Stooges: "I Wanna Be Your Dog" and "Search and Destroy" are borderline.
Neu!: Haven't listened to them.
Kraftwerk: "The Model" or "Trans-Europe Express" are borderline.
Television: "Marquee Moon" is a slam-dunk inclusion.
Suicide: Haven't listened to them.
Pink Floyd: Don't like them that much, but "Wish You Were Here" or "Comfortably Numb" would fit in.
Pixies: "Debaser," for sure.
Portishead: "Glory Box" made my T50, but does not belong in this sort of list.
Nine Inch Nails: No way
Sonic Youth: "Teen Age Riot" for sure.
Talk Talk: Great band, but what song really stands out?
Talking Heads: "Once in a Lifetime" is a T20 song, easily.
Slint: I love "Good Morning, Captain," but it doesn't belong.
The Flaming Lips: "Do You Realize??" is the only song that could be included, but it shouldn't.
Radiohead: "Paranoid Android," definitely. You could make a case for a few others.
Joanna Newsom: What song stands out?
Animal Collective: Top 50 of the 2000s, but not all time. Panda Bear's "Bros" should probably place above all their tracks anyway except for maybe "My Girls."
Arcade Fire: Unfortunately their great songs cancel each other out. How do you choose among "Neighborhood #1," "Wake Up," and "Rebellion (Lies)?"
Wu-Tang Clan: I love "C.R.E.A.M." Not top 50 material though.
Nas: No consensus on his best song from Illmatic.
Public Enemy: "Fight the Power" definitely belongs.
Madvillain: "All Caps" is great, but doesn't have enough influence/greatness to make even the decade's T50.
Eminem: "Stan" is borderline, I guess.
Dr. Dre: Nuthin But a G Thang is borderline.
NWA: "Straight Outta Compton" is borderline.
Metallica: I don't know about T50, but "Master of Puppets" deserves inclusion.
Megadeth and Iron Maiden: "Holy Wars" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name" placed on my list, but T50 is obviously a stretch.
Most of these artists would have a better case for a greatest albums list than this one. Great artists, though, all worth listening to.
One issue I had with listyguy's list that no one else has raised is it extremely sparse on songs from the 80s and 90s and includes nothing from the 00s. If we're looking for an objective songs list to rival RS's, why fall into the same era bias they are often criticized for? More recent songs like "Blue Monday," "Love Will Tear Us Apart," "How Soon is Now?," "Common People," "B.O.B," "All My Friends," as well as the ones I listed above are certainly great enough to be on the list, and are underrated by RS.
that's probably true some of those artist are song oriented, i think i was just caught up in the moment trying to make a broader point about influential artist that i lost sight of the fact it's a song list. Also, that list wasn't definitive to what i think deserves mention, there are other artist I just didn't think to mention (Ramones, Nick Drake, whatever).
for Brian Eno i would include "St. Elmo's Fire" which has my favorite guitar solo (played by robert fripp from king crimson). And is a highlight to Another Green World. Perhaps not top 50, but a fantastic song nonetheless
Captain Beefheart may not have a stand-out track perse but I've always found "Frownland" to perfectly embody Trout Mask Replica and it has possibly my favorite lyrics ever.
Can I think has a legitimate claim to a song, "Halleluwah" being my favorite song ever, have you heard it? it's insane!
Stooges, I can't really think of anything that's THAT fantastic song-wise so i concede that
Neu!'s song "Hallogallo" invented the "motorik" beat sound that you can here in bands like Stereolab and Tortoise. AMG describes it: "While here in the States people were flipping out over "Radar Love" by Golden Earring, if they'd known about this first Neu! disc, they would never have bothered." which isn't entirely true, though it would if they stopped after Hallogallo. haha
Kraftwerk i haven't listed enough to so I couldn't say, they got lumped in with my saving-the-forgotten attempt
Suicide, many would disagree but AMG describes "Frankie Teardrop" as "one of the most harrowing songs ever recorded" it's unstable and freaky as hell.
Pink Floyd I prefer the earlier stuff like "Interstellar Overdrive" but "Wish You Were Here" is fantastic too.
Nine Inch Nails are awesome and i love "Closer"
Talk Talk's biggest song has always been "After the Flood" which is a Post-Rock epic
Slint i think "Breadcrumb Trail" is great
The Flaming Lips, I don't actually like Yoshimi that much and can't really think of a song THAT great so I concede
Joanna Newsom I bitterly concede only cause i think Ys is perfect but couldn't say what song...
Animal Collective, "Bros" is certainly fantastic but I think "Fireworks" also deserves mention, perhaps not all time top 50, but i'll be dammed if it's not a great song
Wu-Tang Clan, I think 36 Chambers is rap's masterpiece, so many of those songs have so much energy I could nominate almost any one of them
Nas' delivery on "Life's a Bitch" i think is flawless and his first lyrics after AZ's section are brilliant
Madvillain I concede, that album isn't song oriented at all.
Dr. Dre, I prefer "Let Me Ride" which I think is so fantastic.
Metallica's Master of Puppets is a good choice but I don't know enough to be sure.
I don't know much about Megadeath and Iron Maiden, I just included them to illustrate the lack of metal.
"St. Elmo's Fire" is amazing. I have heard "Halleluwah" once when I listened to Tago Mago, but I haven't gotten back to it. I'm sure it's an excellent song; I just don't know about it placing here.
Other potential artists for the list include Black Sabbath (who I think should absolutely make it, "Paranoid" would be a likely choice but I love "Symptom of the Universe"), LCD Soundsystem ("All My Friends" or "Losing My Edge"), New Order ("Blue Monday" for sure, but "Bizarre Love Triangle" is equally good), Leonard Cohen ("Suzanne"), The Smiths ("There is a Light...," "How Soon is Now?," or "This Charming Man"), Grandmaster Flash ("The Message"), Sam Cooke ("A Change is Gonna Come") and maybe My Bloody Valentine ("Soon" or "Only Shallow").
i'd agree with all those except the Sam Cooke, i really can't stand that song and maybe "This Charming Man" i've never found it to be that distinguished, though i do like it
Excellent comments from Michael. I may not agree with every single point made; but now want to make sure that I include a Metallica song in my top 50. I've been listening to a lot more varieties of music including many of the artists you recommended for consideration.
The listguy has certainly got the discussion rolling. This discussion is likely to continue to be very interesting.
For me, there is a tension to selecting artists for "Greatest Songs" list in weighing how much I enjoy listening to a particular song versus how influential an artist has been on other artists or had another sort of impact. I also tend to look for superb musical performers, e.g., John Coltrane, Return to Forever, Keith Jarrett and Joe Satriani.
Unless an artist cited as influential also provides songs that are reasonably accessible to a wider audience, I am not so sure that the influence attributed to them is warranted. For example, Captain Beefheart. Many of CB's songs border on annoying for most folks. The lyrics and music is clever enough; but is that sufficient? Not in my view.
I am not a giant fan of rap, so my list will be sorely lacking there. But, I continue to listen to the hip/hop and rap songs recommended in this forum and elsewhere, so perhaps in a few months my view will change.
Finally, please note that it is not at all difficult for me to envision the Beatles have more than one song in top 20 or even in the top ten, especially when you consider the impact and influence they have had on music over the past 45 years.
I think we're being too harsh on listyguy! My list would probably look like the exact opposite of his, but all opinions should be welcome here.
With respect to the discussion of "Hey Ya" I wondered why the D major chord was referred to as "dominant."
This is what I found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_chord
The dominant is the fifth degree (pitch) of a musical scale. The dominant (diatonic function) has the role of creating instability that requires the tonic or goal-tone for release.
For example, in the C major scale (white keys on a piano, starting with C), the dominant is the note G; and the dominant chord uses the notes G, B, and D.
In music theory, the dominant chord is symbolized by the Roman numeral V if it is within the major mode (because it is a major triad, for example G-B-D in C major) or v if it is within the minor mode (because it is a minor triad, for example G-B♭-D in C minor, unless of course the B♭ is sharpened to B natural, as will often occur since B♮ is the leading tone for the C minor scale).
I think that "American Pie" merits some praise for the artistry of its lyrics and its impact on other song writers and performers, e.g., Roberta Flack - "Killing Me Softly" - admittedly not one of my favorites. American Pie was a big hit and was not over-produced or a product of corporate rock. But, musically I do not find any inspiring innovation in American Pie that is the key for me in terms of artistry. I also find that Living On a Prayer, while catchy enough, does not really make the grade on the artistry, impact and influence analysis. But, this is just one person's view and my view is very adaptable to new data.
I think it's an age thing. I'm not the biggest fan of rap because of the 'gansta' affectation, but I put stuff by bands like Public Enemy and Outkast reasonably high on my lists. But, my uncle immediately dismisses all hip-hop as 'crap' and will go out of his way to say so.
I think, with some exceptions like Robert Christgau obviously, to be open minded to rap you have to have been young while it was popular. (And I would probably predict the average age of a Rolling Stone follower to be at least 50.)
These are my songs. I have to put "Tomorrow Never Knows" because in my mind the sounds, the textures, the and the recording techniques go way beyond what was normally associated with pop and rock music. They basically one -upped everyone in rock music with "Tomorrow Never Knows" and that includes Frank Zappa. Instead of the usual backdrop of standard rock instruments they created a backdrop of psychedelic sounds using a series of loops, drones, and electronic effects. I think they even took a segment of "Taxman" and put it backwards on "Tomorow Never Knows". The song influenced everyone from Hendrix to the Byrds to even modern electronic artists like Kraftwerk and the Chemical Brothers.
1- Tomorrow Never Knows - The Beatles
2- Eight Miles High- The Byrds
3- You Really Got Me- The Kink
4- Stairway To Heaven- Led Zeppelin
5- Satisfaction, The Rolling Stones
6- Strawberry Fields Forever- The Beatles
7- My Generation, the Who
8- Shapes of Things- The Yardbirds
9- Third Stone From the Sun- Jimi Hendrix Experience
10- Like a Rolling Stone, Bob Dylan
11- All Along The Watchtower, Jimi Hendrix
12- Comfortably Numb Pink Floyd
13- Long Tally Sally- Little Richard
14- Whiter Shade of Pale- Procol Harum
15- Born to be wild, Steppenwolf
16- In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
17- Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
18- Light My Fire - Doors
19- Venus In Furs - The Velvet Underground
20- A Day In The Life - Beatles
21- 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
22- Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
23- The End- The Doors
24- White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
25- Astronomy Domine - Pink Floyd
26- Johnny B. Goode - Chuck Berry
27- Journey to the Center of the Mind- the Amboy Dukes
28- Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
29- Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
30- Born To Run - Bruce Springsteen
31- Layla - Derek & the Dominos
32- Louie Louie - The Kingsmen
33- Suite: Judy Blue Eyes - Crosby, Stills and Nash
34- American Pie - Don McLean
35- Space Oddity - David Bowie
36- Baba O'Riley - The Who
37- Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
38- Won't Get Fooled Again - Who
39- Hey Jude - Beatles
40- Hound dog –Elvis Presley
41- Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
42- Roundabout - Yes
43- For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
44- The House Of The Rising Sun - Animals
45- Paranoid- Black Sabbath
46- Sympathy for the Devil- The Rolling Stones.
47- Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues
48- Blitzkrieg - Ramones
49- I Can See for Miles- The Who
50- Psychotic Reaction - Count Five
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I'm one of the oldest folks submitting lists on AM, and my draft list includes more songs from the 90's and 00's than I've seen on the two lists submitted so far. Some of us are more patient in allowing for these "new" tunes to ripen for a decade or two before we prematurely place them on our All-time greatest lists. Others are less circumspect perhaps.
I fear listyguy's head might explode if I contribued to this.
I can provide my list if you want it. But, prefer to give it to you next week.
50 Style Council My Ever Changing Moods
49 Genesis Behind The Lines
48 Yes I've Seen All Good People
47 Satriani, Joe The Crush of Love
46 OutKast Hey Ya
45 Lynyrd Skynyrd I Never Dreamed
44 Band The Weight
43 Arcade Fire Rebellion (Lies)
42 Metallica Enter Sandman
41 Roxy Music More Than This
40 Talking Heads Once in a Lifetime
39 Derek & The Dominos Layla
38 LCD Soundsystem Someone Great
37 Young, Neil Southern Man
36 Gabriel, Peter In Your Eyes
35 John, Elton Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
34 Crosby, Stills & Nash Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
33 Costello, Elvis (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love And Understanding?
32 Queen Bohemian Rhapsody
31 New Order True Faith
30 Steely Dan Don't Take Me Alive
29 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit
28 Coltrane, John My Favorite Things
27 Marley, Bob No Woman, No Cry
26 Mitchell, Joni Both Sides Now
25 Velvet Underground I'm Waiting For The Man
24 U2 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
23 Jackson, Michael Beat It
22 Morrison, Van Moondance
21 Simon & Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water
20 Radiohead Creep
19 R.E.M. Losing My Religion
18 Clash London Calling
17 Smiths How Soon Is Now?
16 Pink Floyd Us And Them
15 Franklin, Aretha Respect
14 Doors Light My Fire
13 Prince When Doves Cry
12 Who Behind Blue Eyes
11 Bowie, David Changes
10 Beatles Hey Jude
9 Wonder, Stevie As
8 Beach Boys Good Vibrations
7 Gaye, Marvin What's Going On
6 Springsteen, Bruce Born To Run
5 Dylan, Bob Like A Rolling Stone
4 Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven
3 Rolling Stones Sympathy For The Devil
2 Hendrix, Jimi All Along The Watchtower
1 Beatles Let It Be