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Rolling Stone Argentina 100 mejores discos del rock nacional (2007)

That's true what people say. With the right keywords, Google is really your friend. And Rolling Stone keeps on being busy with lists everywhere. Here's a new one from Argentina. Found it here:
http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view?list_id=85766&show=25&start=75

...but with the keywords "mejores", "discos", "Argentina", you found a lot more possibilities. And guess what? The number one album comes once again from the 1970s! The big names seem to be Charly García, present in solo and with several bands (Serú Girán, Sui Generis, La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros, and in the supergroup PorSuiGieco) and Luis Alberto Spinetta, who holds the top spot with his musical vessel "Pescado Rabioso", and is also present as the leader of several other bands (Invisible, Almendra, Spinetta Jade...) and in solo. García and Spinetta seem to be the definitive rock gods in Argentina.

1. Pescado Rabiaso; Artaud (1973)
2. Charly García; Clics Modernos (1983)
3. Manal; Manal (1970)
4. Patricio Rey y Sus Redonditos de Ricota; Oktubre (1986)
5. Sumo; Divididos por la felicidad (1985)
6. Almendra; Almendra (1970)
7. Divididos; La era de la boludez (1994)
8. Moris; 30 minutos de vida (1970)
9. Soda Stereo; Canción animal (1990)
10. Andrés Calamaro; Alta suciedad (1997)
11. Pappo's Blues; Vol. 2 (1972)
12. Charly García; Piano Bar (1984)
13. Fito Páez; El amor después del amor (1992)
14. Vox Dei; La Biblia (1971)
15. Los Twist; La dicha en movimiento (1983)
16. Babasónicos; Jessico (2001)
17. Serú Girán; La grasa de las capitales (1979)
18. Virus; Superficies De Placer (1987)
19. Pescado Rabioso; Pescado 2 (1973)
20. Los Violadores; Los Violadores (1983)
21. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs; El león (1992)
22. Sumo; Llegando los monos (1986)
23. León Gieco; De Ushuaia a La Quiaca 1 (1985)
24. Luis Alberto Spinetta; Kamikaze (1982)
25. Soda Stereo; Signos (1986)
26. Charly García; Yendo de la cama al living (1982)
27. Pappo's Blues; Pappo's Blues (1971)
28. Invisible; El jardín de los presentes (1976)
29. Los Abuelos de la Nada; Vasos y besos (1983)
30. Andrés Calamaro; Honestidad brutal (1999)
31. Sui Generis; Pequeñas anécdotas sobre las instituciones (1974)
32. Don Cornelio y La Zona; Don Cornelio y La Zona (1987)
33. Patricio Rey y Sus Redonditos de Ricota; Bang! Bang!!... Estás liquidado (1989)
34. David Lebón; David Lebon (1973)
35. Los Auténticos Decadentes; Mi vida loca (1995)
36. Los Gatos; Los Gatos (1967)
37. Los Ratones Paranoicos; Los Chicos Quieren Rock (1988)
38. Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas; Chaco (1995)
39. Pedro Y Pablo; Conesa (1972)
40. Almendra; Almendra II (1970)
41. Pappo's Blues; Vol. 3 (1973)
42. Sumo; After chabón (1987)
43. Fito Páez; Ciudad de pobres corazones (1987)
44. Todos Tus Muertos; Dale Aborigen (1994)
45. Miguel Abuelo; Et nada (1973)
46. Aquelarre; Aquelarre (1972)
47. Catupecu Machu; El número imperfecto (2004)
48. Litto Nebbia; Melopea (1974)
49. Color Humano; Vol 3 (1973)
50. Daniel Melero; Conga (1988)
51. Billy Bond y La Pesada; Vol 1 (1971)
52. Arco Iris; Sudamérica o el regreso a la aurora (1972)
53. V8; Luchando por el metal (1982)
54. Virus; Wadu Wadu (1981)
55. Los Encargados; Silencio (1986)
56. Tanguito; Tango (1973)
57. Pedro Y Pablo; Yo vivo en esta ciudad (1970) [This one seems to be a cheat: it's actually a single. Maybe it's a way for them to say "both sides of this single are very important songs in Argentinian rock. Who knows.)
58. Riff; Contenidos (1982)
59. Babasónicos; Trance zomba (1994)
60. Andrés Calamaro; Nadie sale vivo de aquí (1989)
61. Luis Alberto Spinetta & Fito Páez; La, la, la (1986)
62. Los Brujos; Fin de semana salvaje (1992)
63. Fun People; The Art(e) of Romance (1999)
64. Attaque 77; El cielo puede esperar (1990)
65. Invisible; Invisible (1974)
66. Sui Generis; Vida (1972)
67. Hermética; Ácido argentino (1992)
68. Serú Girán; Bicicleta (1980)
69. Spinetta Jade; Bajo Belgrano (1984)
70. Divididos; Narigón del siglo (2001)
71. La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros; Películas (1977)
72. Los Visitantes; Salud Universal (1993)
73. La Renga; Despedazado por mil partes (1996)
74. Peligrosos Gorriones; Peligrosos Gorriones (1993)
75. Litto Nebbia; Muerte En La Catedral (1973)
76. Crucis; Los delirios del Mariscal (1976)
77. Almafuerte; Mundo guanaco (1995)
78. Los Piojos; Tercer arco (1996)
79. Massacre; Sol lucet omnibus (1993)
80. Flopa Manza Minimal; Flopa Manza Minimal (2003)
81. Cerati / Melero; Colores santos (1992)
82. Fito Páez; Giros (1985)
83. Las Pelotas; Esperando el milagro (2003)
84. Los Abuelos de la Nada; Los Abuelos de la Nada (1982)
85. Bersuit Vergarabat; Libertinaje (1998)
86. Gustavo Santaolalla; Santaolalla (1982)
87. Intoxicados; No Es Sólo Rock n' Roll (2003)
88. Patricio Rey y Sus Redonditos de Ricota; Luzbelito (1996)
89. PorSuiGieco; PorSuiGieco (1976)
90. Gustavo Cerati; Ahí vamos (2006)
91. La Portuaria; Escenas de la vida amorosa (1991)
92. El Otro Yo; Abrecaminos (1999)
93. León Gieco; Mensajes del alma (1992)
94. Los Gatos; Rock de la mujer perdida (1970)
95. 2 Minutos; Valentín Alsina (1994)
96. Estupendo; Bistró Málaga (1994)
97. Fricción; Consumación o consumo (1986)
98. Juan Carlos Baglietto; Tiempos difíciles (1981)
99. Man Ray; Perro de playa (1991)
100. Roque Narvaja; Octubre, mes de cambios (1972)

Re: Rolling Stone Argentina 100 mejores discos del rock nacional (2007)

And now is the turn of Federico Ripamonti (the one in the photo), a friend of mine that comes from Argentina. He’s philosopher and an excellent guitar player (you should listen to the way we intertwine our guitars in our cover of Prine’s “Hello in There”). He’s even more Beatlemaniac than me, he plays in a tribute band called The Blisters (you can see him playing piano in Love or singing A Hard Day’s Night). His comments about the RS list:

“Well, it’s quite a complete list, a little repetitive in the beginning, lol. I miss Tango 4, with Pedro Aznar and Charly García among others… But there are Sui Generis, Fito, Calamaro, Spinetta, Pappo, Gieco… The album from Ilya Kuryaki is one of my favourites, and maybe the MTV Unplugged by Charly that is not on the list too. And of course I miss more folklore and singer-songwriters like Chalchaleros, Mercedes Sosa, Víctor Heredia, Fabiana Cantilo. And (of course) tango but it seems this was about rock.”


Many thanks Fede. And now I’m going to mix some of your choices with my own to compile 10 suggestions in chronological order (only four of them appear on the RS list, lol):

1) CARLOS GARDEL “Yira Yira” (1930): every list from Argentina should’ve topped by Carlos Gardel (except the RS one, as you can see). He recorded so many immortal songs, my choice would have been Mano a mano but Fede’s favourite has all the ingredients that made tango so big: fatalist lyrics and sentimental melodies.




2) ATAHUALPA YUPANQUI “Los ejes de mi carreta” (1960): from the urban environment of tango to the country landscapes of the milonga campera, the music follows the morose beat of the wagon, the (splendid!) guitar flourishes and the telluric voice evokes the vast horizons of the Argentinian Pampa.




3) MERCEDES SOSA “Alfonsina y el mar” (1968 ): Alfonsina Storni was a poet from Argentina that drowned herself on the Mar de la Plata (Silver Sea) in 1938, when she was 43 years old. This homage to her is probably one of the most beautiful songs ever. You should listen to the moving performance of Mercedes Sosa but you should definitely check also the superb cover of Israeli bass player Avishai Cohen (thanks Hannah Hansun for this suggestion).




4) PESCADO RABIOSO “Todas las hojas son del viento” (1973): the #1 of RS list belongs to the third and last album of Pescado Rabioso (Rabid Fish), the second project of “Flaco” Spinetta after Almendra (Almond). This album in fact was considered the first solo album by Spinetta, abandoning the previous hard blues-rock sound for a more acoustic and jazzy approach.




5) ASTOR PIAZZOLLA “Libertango” (1974): another clamorous absence from the list is the great Astor Piazzolla, you can listen here to his masterpiece “Libertango” accompanying beautiful images of wonderful Buenos Aires. Never been in South America but for sure Buenos Aires would be my first choice.




6) TEQUILA “Me vuelvo loco” (1979): many Argentinian artists came to Spain during the late seventies for political or financial reasons. Their (fabulous) albums usually appear on the lists of best Spanish albums but (as I can see) not in the list of best Argentinian albums. Probably it’s because these artists integrated so well in Spain, being Madrid (Moris with “Fiebre de vivir”, 1978 ) or Barcelona (Gato Pérez with “Romesco”, 1979). But the most important band was Tequila, rock stars in Spain but almost unknown in Argentina. Attention to this “ooh-ooh” at 0:55, it seems like if Blur sampled it for their “Song #2”.




7) CHARLY GARCÍA “Nos siguen pegando abajo (pecado mortal)” (1983): like S7 accurately pointed, Charly is along with Spinetta the absolute winner of the RS list. The most popular song from his lauded album “Clics modernos” (#2 according to RS) in a live version from 1983, if you are allergic to the 80s synthesizers you may opt for the 1995 version from MTV Unplugged that Fede recommended but here you can listen a version from. It was an album that faced the dictatorial regime that just ended then in Argentina. Federico also recommended other projects of Charly like Sui Generis or Tango 4.



8 ) ILLYA KURYAKI AND THE VALDERRAMAS “Abarájame” (1995): the main exponent of hip hop in Argentina, the band was a duo (one of them was son of “Flaco” Spinetta from Pescado Rabioso) that had a big success in Argentina during the 90s with a fresh mixture of rock, funk and hip hop.




9) ANDRÉS CALAMARO “Paloma” (1999): another artist more considered in Spain than in Argentina, RS chose “Alta Suciedad” (1997) for the list (they put the album at #10) but my favourite is “Honestidad Brutal” (1999), a brave 37 songs tour-de-force stark confessional album with blood on the tracks.




10) FABIANA CANTILO “Inconsciente colectivo” (2009): I can’t think of a more suitable ending that this one, Fabiana made an album in 2005 as an homage to the rock from Argentina with the selection of songs voted by the fans. A hymn from Charly García gave name to that album. Fabiana just released the follow up with this song as the new single.