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Tank Number and identification

Hi,

can someone please help me finding the correct tank number (census number) for my WM20?
I also have no idea about the related contract number.
I‘m also very interested to find out more details on its history and origin.

I bought it around 10 years ago and imported it from the US to Europe. I‘m currently restoring it to its original condition.
There are around 6 coats of paint on it. But on every part, I can find dark glossy green color on the very bottom. Bronze green, I guess.

Frame number: WM20 37684
Engine Number: W37853 with a brass tag: SOU/2/L 0/54

I cant find the tank number table on the website anymore. There used to be one here…

Many thanks
Thomas

email (option): Tomekk-13@web.de

Re: Tank Number and identification

I provides some photos here:
https://ibb.co/album/Fs6mPB

email (option): Tomekk-13@web.de

Re: Tank Number and identification

Both frame and engine were delivered under the same contract for 17000 machines which was numbered C7287. Deliveries commenced in August 1940 and this was the large contract intended to replace the losses in France in May / June 1940.

Frame WM20 37684 carried the WD serial (census) number C4354276 and engine WM20 37853 was fitted in a matching-numbered frame with serial number C4354445.

The original colour would have been Khaki Green No.3. The gloss bronze green is a post-war colour. The plate on the engine indicates that the bike recieved a full rebuild at a Southern Command Workshop during 1954. Gloss green was the standard colour then and parts were refinished as new...it's likely that they were fully paint-stripped etc. and numerous new parts fitted.

These are images from Henk's file of a bike between your two numbers.

010-C4354358

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011-C4354358

Re: Tank Number and identification

Rik
Both frame and engine were delivered under the same contract for 17000 machines which was numbered C7287. Deliveries commenced in August 1940 and this was the large contract intended to replace the losses in France in May / June 1940.

Frame WM20 37684 carried the WD serial (census) number C4354276 and engine WM20 37853 was fitted in a matching-numbered frame with serial number C4354445.

The original colour would have been Khaki Green No.3. The gloss bronze green is a post-war colour. The plate on the engine indicates that the bike recieved a full rebuild at a Southern Command Workshop during 1954. Gloss green was the standard colour then and parts were refinished as new...it's likely that they were fully paint-stripped etc. and numerous new parts fitted.

These are images from Henk's file of a bike between your two numbers.




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Rik, that is strange, as both numbers aren't in the Key Cards, and when rebuilt in 1954, they should be?

Cheers,

Lex

email (option): welbike@welbiXX.net

Re: Tank Number and identification

Here's another "close" number. Lots of details in this picture:
C4355691-2

email (option): wd.register@gmail.com

Re: Tank Number and identification

Wow, thanks for the fast response! You guys are amazing!
The photos are fantastic!

I‘m so happy to finally know the correct C-Number.

If the rebuilt in 54 included the paintstrip and additional parts, it would explain why I have the pillion seat and large pannier bags mounted aswell.

I could not find any signs of insignia, due to previews partial paintstrips and paintjobs.
Is there any chance to find out, where the bike has been shipped to? When did it leave the factory (date of prduction) or which unit it served with?

I‘d love to add unit related insignia on the tank besides the bsa logo and c-number aswell.

Kind regards from Hamburg
Thomas

email (option): Tomekk-13@web.de

Re: Tank Number and identification

Regrettably, no chance of tracing wartime history. If a vehicle appears in the post-war cards, it sometimes shows the last location / user. These were pencilled though and then erased after a change.

There is an article on the Norton site which describes what records once existed.

https://www.wdnorton.nl/Individual_motorcycle_history.htm

Re: Tank Number and identification

Hello guys,

I just wanted to thank you all for your affort helping me out with the correct number. I think I failed a little with the correct positioning of the number ob the tank, it is slightly tilted. Bit maybe it leaves room for some more insignia in the future.
Many thanks!

email (option): Tomekk-13@web.de

Re: Tank Number and identification

Once again, you folks are amazing! 😁

Pictures of my refurbished tank + an original one in original color with the old decals as a template.

https://ibb.co/4YTJ5ZV
https://ibb.co/XCYMJ7k

email (option): Tomekk-13@web.de

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