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Re: Factory repro...

I swear like a trooper, but I quite agree. Swearing at other posters really isn't justified on here and will only make the atmosphere worse.

Re: Factory repro...


"I imagine you meant it was original parts but not an original bike?... "

exactly that.

G3 frame with teles, wrong guards for contract all that sort of thing, but it looked the part, and got featured in Classic bike.

back then,1970ish no one really cared about fine detail, and there was no incredibly knowledgeable Dutch guy around.

Its still going well in the hands of its new owner despite being a rivet counters dream.

I often regret selling it, but it was the right thing to do.

Re: Factory repro...

It is not often I land on my feet but as I own the prototype Royal Enfield V Twin EXKX which was submitted for evaluation during WW2 as a potential replacement for the SWD Norton Big 4 - the machine having been returned to the Royal Enfield factory and sold to a Royal Enfield employee in 1946 then you might care to consider this machine which is unique in many areas as genuine.

Re: Factory repro...

I have been involved in registering quite a few vehicles over the last 33 years. Not just my own but also for many years as the Dorset area inspector on behalf of the MVT Verification officer.

The criteria laid out in recent years by DVLA is that the vehicle should be a certain percent of the original vehicle or period parts. For instance they won't accept a repro body tub on a Jeep.....(If they know about it).

The answer as Ian suggests is to present them for any inspection with a fully restored "Original" vehicle. I'd also be cautious about using the word 'restored' ........Repainted sound better. Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Factory repro...

['I'd also be cautious about using the word 'restored'..']...

Yes, Ron is definitely correct there, 'Loose lips sink ships' (and bikes)...Terminology is important, what you mean by using a particular word may not carry the same meaning when presented to the DVLA...and what is said can't be unsaid...Ian

email (option): ian@wright52.plus.com

Re: Factory repro...

I think everyone is understandably a bit on edge these days and with more time than usual to spend on social media forums such as this, things can get testy.

But, Nathan, I have to point out that while your project is interesting, you have recently come to very much dominate this forum. You only joined on February 2nd of this year and yet you've commented 340 times in 117 days. There are others who've been here for years and their total comments are much less. Ian joined in 2009 and has in excess of 10,000. That's an average of 2.5 per day, less than your 2.9 per day. All of us here would agree both are prolific but the amount of help and concrete information Ian has provided over that decade has been invaluable. He's indirectly helped me many times because I've searched the forum and found an answer he gave someone else in 2014 that I needed last month. You, a very new member, on the other hand are, mostly, simply sharing your latest procurements. (as for myself I joined in 2016 and I have a grand total of 62 comments but I nevertheless read the forum daily).

I understand your enthusiasm and desire to share. Maybe if you began your own blog that you updated daily where we could follow you with interest it might be a better place. I see you're also on the Facebook page 'BSA WDM20 The Cult Single'. Share your finds there and reserve this for questions you have?

There are many unspoken rules when navigating an online forum such as this. One of them is know when to slow it down and another is respect the senior members. Your intensity is admirable but may have blinded you a little. Don't 'piss off' but maybe step it back a little? I don't speak for anyone else, this is just my own observation.

email (option): moatjon [ at ] aol.com

Re: Factory repro...

Ian Wright
It appears you can build a machine up now from verified parts and get an age related number if you jump through all the right hoops......It seems the changes at the DVLA are constant as this certainly was not the case previously...I'd check the whole thing thoroughly before you start...Below is a partial extract from the DVLA website...Note the section about reproduction parts, though I'd assume that only applies to more major components so may not affect you ...

I'm still intrigued as to whether you will regard the end result of this project as 'original', a 'replica' a 'facsimile' a 'lookalike' etc. and what you mean by the description you use....Ian


Get an age-related registration number...

DVLA can only recognise your vehicle as a reconstructed classic vehicle if it meets certain criteria. It must be:
•built from genuine period components from more than one vehicle, all over 25 years old and of the same specification as the original vehicle
•a true reflection of the marque

The appropriate vehicle owners’ club for the vehicle type (‘marque’) must inspect the vehicle and confirm in writing that it:
•has been inspected
•is a true reflection of the marque
•is comprised of genuine period components all over 25 years old

They must also give manufacture dates for the major components.

DVLA will assign an age-related registration number to the vehicle based on the youngest component used.

New or replica parts

Your vehicle will not get an age-related registration number if it includes new or replica parts. DVLA will give your vehicle a ‘Q’ prefix registration number. Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number...
Now that's an interesting thing to know, I wasn't aware of the possibility to get the advantages of an actual historical vehicle for a modern reproduction of it! That opens a whole new field of possibilities...

email (option): czp02270tr@yahoo.com

Re: Factory repro...

DVLA are mainly concerned about frame numbers, that being original and correct is essential to get an age related reg. They are well aware that any vehicle that's 80 years old has been maintained through out those years, so is unlikely to be the same parts it left the factory with. It looks like they've put a minimum age of 25 years on these parts. There are certain parts that have to be correct for that bike. I think wheel hubs (you can change the rims), forks etc, if these parts are newly made, you run the risk of getting a Q plate.

email (option): horror@blueyonder.co.uk

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