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Chemical blacking...

Chemical blacking is the finish on many NOS parts but it's not often seen on restored machines and is a subject rarely, if ever, discussed here on the forum....Something of an omission from the rivet counting perspective I would have thought...Ian

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Re: Chemical blacking...

When I was a lad, we used to sing a song about it...

"The moon shines bright on Charlie Chaplin
His boots are crackin’ for want of blackin‘
And his owd fusty coat is wanting mending
Until they send him to the Dardenelles"

Re: Chemical blacking...

There are hot, medium and cold processes...The cold process can easily be carried out in the home workshop. The medium process requires temperature control within a given range so not so easy at home...The hot process is an industrial process with definite safety risks if not carried out correctly...

At the machine tool factory where I did my apprenticeship the hot process was carried out at scale for the treatment of machine parts, fasteners etc. None of the processes make the component rust proof...Ian

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Re: Chemical blacking...

I oil blacked several parts on the Norton's. Gearbox nuts, linkages and levers, head nuts and handlebar bolts. Easy to do and has lasted 8 years, better than some of the plating.

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No-one has ever done better dull chrome for me than these people..I assume that they would be OK on the black too.

On the Norton, my gearbox and handlebar fittings were all OK..It's odd, but the black finish survives well if it's kept dry.

http://www.collinschemicalblacking.co.uk/

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blacking parts is a DRY protection finish for things that will be stored or used indoors
When used outdoors it must be oiled .
The coatings will hold oil very well and offer good protection provided you do not wash the bike with detergents after which you will need to reoil the black parts

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Re: Chemical blacking...

Gunsmith chemical blacking, glueing and browning is easy and easy to obtain. Heat up the part, then paint it on. Repeat to get the desired shade. I've used it many times and it gives an excellent finish, particularly with a bit of oil on it.

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That's what I use as well...I've just done some gearbox parts and some hub parts...The one I use is applied 'cold' and I think some caution should be used when heating anything that has been previously heat treated....Ian

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Re: Chemical blacking...

Ian Wright
That's what I use as well...I've just done some gearbox parts and some hub parts...The one I use is applied 'cold' and I think some caution should be used when heating anything that has been previously heat treated....Ian
Ian, could you post a link to what you have used for this cold blacking please. I have a project that needs some parts blacking.

Thanks
Tim W

Re: Chemical blacking...

I've been using this stuff for years. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220485088736
I think they do a 'super black'? I don't know if there is a better product? I usually give each piece about 3 goes. Ron

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Re: Chemical blacking...

The bottle looks familiar but I'll check what I have to be absolutely sure and post here this evening...
I have found the results are best if the parts are bead blasted first to provide an absolutely clean surface...If not, then degrease fully with clean paint thinners or similar and avoid greasy finger marks!...
One application usually gives a good black finish for me but as this product seems to be acid based follow the washing off/oiling instructions after application or rust will soon appear....Ian

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Mine is the same product as Rons...I must admit I've had it so long I had to check as I never really look at the bottle!!....Ian

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Thank you both, i have ordered a bottle just now.

Tim W

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Re: Chemical blacking...

I did this post some time back on the Ariel owners forum on how to hot parkerise (blacken) parts at home. This was the process used at the factory, they called it Coslettising and it was also used on mudguards etc before they were enameled. A bit long winded to do.

http://forum.arielownersmcc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4591&hilit=parkerising

I've also tried some black etch primer with a coat of oil...looks very similar quite resistant to spannering and can easily be touched up with a small paintbrush.

Cheers
alan

Re: Chemical blacking...

Rik
When I was a lad, we used to sing a song about it...

"The moon shines bright on Charlie Chaplin
His boots are crackin’ for want of blackin‘
And his owd fusty coat is wanting mending
Until they send him to the Dardenelles"
Here it is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHm-b99-ER4

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I found this video very informative:


Jan

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Re: Chemical blacking...

Jan
I found this video very informative:


Jan
Excellent Jan .

Thank You for sharing .

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