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Re: 1943 Knocking and stalling - Solved.

Glad to hear you seem to have identified the problem...My advice would be never to assume that because something is new any specified clearance will be correct...

These days CNC machines can consistently produce very tight tolerances, in fact current machines will detect slight variations from the required dimension and self adjust to rectify them...
In the past machine tools (and their operators) were not able to maintain that level of accuracy over a batch of parts and variations occurred within the laid down tolerances...EVERY dimension had an upper and lower tolerance applied...Non critical dimensions were indicated by a fractional dimension on the engineering drawing (e.g. 1/64th.) and the accepted standard tolerance in that case was + or - .015" from the declared dimension...
More important tolerances were specified individually in thousandths (or less) of an inch (e.g. + or - .005" or + or -.0005") around the declared dimension...
The tighter the tolerance the more difficult it was to achieve it consistently and consequently the greater the number of parts that fell outside that tolerance..This meant a higher percentage of scrap...Inspection levels also rose from a 'first and last off' which meant a check only on the first and last part made in a batch for non critical dimensions through increments up to a 100% checking rate on critical parts with very tight dimensional tolerances...In many cases additional machining operations such as finish grinding were also required to achieve the higher levels of accuracy...

Tighter tolerances therefore increased costs and it was stressed to me during my training doing production drawings in the early 70's not to 'over tolerance' components beyond what was required for function...
These conditions meant machine shops were routinely producing components that had, within limits, dimensional variations. During inspection 'component selection' was frequently employed when needed to match parts over the tolerance range and to thus ensure the best dimensional compatibility...

So, when using NOS parts it is not always the case that a good fit will be achieved and a check prior to fitting is the best course...One particular example of this in the M20 engine is timing gears...I have built a number of engines using all NOS timing side components but more than once have had the situation where the mesh clearance between the gears was insufficient ...Ian

email (option): ian@wright52.plus.com

Re: 1943 Knocking and stalling - Solved.

Ian:

Thanks for the information.

IMO the issue was not with the old (+.040") or new (+.060") piston O.D. dimensions. I measured these prior to assembly and were within +/- 0.0005" of the advertised diameter before top end assembly, in other words, within the accuracy of my measuring tools. I measured with both a micrometer and dial vernier caliper with the same results.

Because the old piston skirt showed scuff marks 180 degrees apart, I conclude that the cylinder bore before the most recent re-bore was oval, at least locally, and not enough clearance piston wall - to - cylinder existed at operating temperature, but adequate when running just after a cold startup. Hence the piston would bind after warming up to operating temperature and knock / stall.

The re-bore was machined out at a 0.004" clearance gap between the new +.060" piston and cylinder wall. Everything seems OK now.



D. Wadiak

email (option): dwdiak4@gmail.com

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