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Re: Tank C number for my M21

Hi Prinsen

Your first number is for a Bedford 15cwt Anti Tank truck with a Z instead of a C in front of the number.

Your second number is for an BSA M20 from contract C5110 with a frame and engine number of at least WM20 5001.

I couldn't live with either of these knowing that.

The BSA factory ledgers are rather difficult to understand and this is quite typical of the odd system or amazing number of mistakes?

The WM20 frame book has

Frame Engine Tally Date
356 ...356 ...9257 .3/11/39 WM21 JWM Forsyth Cairo
2996 ..2996...10288.30/5/40 WM21 War Office London

The WM21 engine book has a double entry for engine WM21 356

Engine Frame Tally Date
356 ...356 ...9257 .3/11/39 JWM Forsyth Cairo
356 ...2996 ..10288 30/5/40 War Office London SW1
2996 blank

The WM20 engine book also has

Engine Frame Tally Date
356 ...2996 ..10288 30/5/40 War Office London SW1 (this entry is crossed out)
356 ...2987 ..10013 28/5/40 War Office London

Going back to the WM20 frame book which confirms this extra WM20

Frame Engine Tally Date

2987 ..356 ...10013 28/5/40 WM20 War Office London

In conclusion the frame and engine ledgers don't agree so there is definitely a mistake but I'm not sure if we are talking about one or two motorcycle being delivered with the same frame number? With BSA the engine number appears to have been more important and both WM20 and WM21 machines had a WM20 frame number.

But going back to what number to paint on your tank, why put one on at all, some machines had a number on the front number plate, others had a formation badge painted over the number.

Rob

email (option): robmiller11(a)yahoo.co.uk

Re: Tank C number for my M21

Prinsen
the enthusiastic person that i am already painted 1 number on the tank. The number i painted is 3927251. To not repaint my whole tank i think that changing 1 digit should be a BSA contract right? 3929251 At least i have seen pictures of BSA M with this range.

Thank you for all the help. appreciated.
Hi Danny,

Well, you should only have one number on your petrol tank! To be precise: on the nearside (LHS) of the tank, a white number in a black rectangle with white outline, not the white number on khaki background on both sides of the tank! This was only used much later...

Regards,
Jan

email (option): wd.register(at)gmail.com

Re: Tank C number for my M21

Hi Jan,

Ive seen many pictures indeed with the rectangle. But also many with the white c39xxx numbers directly on the tank. That i put the number on the right side was indeed unknown to me till today

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