Good evening ! ( I write through translator ) I have on occasion bought an old motorcycle , I think it's M20 . Numbers on the frame and on the motor is not ( or I not found) . On the rear wing there is a signboard ( 23/3 1048 34 ) Foto signboard https://my.mail.ru/mail/fedchenko69/photo/452

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Hi Fedchenko, welcome to the forum. Looking at your photo it certainly looks like an M20. Do you have any 'history' or other information about the bikes origin?

Привет, Федченко, добро пожаловать на форум. Глядя на ваше фото, он, безусловно, выглядит как M20. Есть ли у вас «история» или другая информация о происхождении велосипеда

https://my.mail.ru/mail/fedchenko69/photo/452
Hi ! The history of this bike I don't know . In the documents of the motorcycle is about the year of manufacture ( 1939 ) and the motorcycle with sidecar . I hope that the knowledgeable people on this forum looking at the photos will tell you something else . The inscription on the label read properly contract No." 23/S 1048 34 "

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Contract S1048 was for 15,000 bikes between September 1942 and November 1943. The sidecar lugs have all been added on. Strangely though it has the early field stand lug on the left side rear frame and the mudguard support has the stud for the early field stand clip, but it's been fitted on the wrong way round. Can you sand the paint and take a picture of the frame number. (Left side headstock just in front of petrol tank) Ron

Does any of this google translate help?


Контракт S1048 был рассчитан на 15 000 велосипедов в период с сентября 1942 года по ноябрь 1943 года. Все колышки для колясок были добавлены. Странно, хотя у него есть ранняя стойка на полевой лебедке на левой боковой раме, а на опоре для брызгодержателя есть шпилька для раннего клипа на стенде, но он был установлен неправильно. Не забросайте краску и сделайте снимок номера кадра. (Левая боковая бабка перед бензобаком)
Рон

Kontrakt S1048 byl rasschitan na 15 000 velosipedov v period s sentyabrya 1942 goda po noyabr' 1943 goda. Vse kolyshki dlya kolyasok byli dobavleny. Stranno, khotya u nego yest' rannyaya stoyka na polevoy lebedke na levoy bokovoy rame, a na opore dlya bryzgoderzhatelya yest' shpil'ka dlya rannego klipa na stende, no on byl ustanovlen nepravil'no. Ne zabrosayte krasku i sdelayte snimok nomera kadra. (Levaya bokovaya babka pered benzobakom)
Ron

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I rather doubt "sand the paint" is going to translate. Best to keep colloquial english to a minimum.

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Well I did the best I can and even translated it into two types of Russian. But "none taken" to coin some colloquial English. Why don't you offer him some better translatable advice? Ron

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Good evening ! Cleaned the paint on the frame and there was the frame number . But the room is ruined welded bracket. View photo M-20(2)
https://my.mail.ru/mail/fedchenko69/photo/534

email (option): fedchenko69@mail.ru

The number that is visible tells a lot and maybe with careful examination, it might be possible to work out what the last two digits were. WM20 301xx would have been built under contract C7287, probably during late 1940 which suggests that the rear mudguard with the 'contract plate' did not belong to it originally.

Do you know how the bike came to be in Russia ? It has clearly had a long civilian life with chromed parts etc. Was it bought in from the Middle East or even Far East ?

Hi
nice bike but want big work - good luck & welcome in the forum
cheers
Hussein

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