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Identification assistance

BSA engine number

KP 21

Looked at Leon's site but could not quite make it out

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Re: Identification assistance

Henri are you sure it's not KB21 250cc OHV from 1939? Ron

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http://newlondon.craigslist.org/mpo/5886894091.html

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/mpo/5886894091.html

Thanks Ron.

Having probs putting up photos.

Henri

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/mpo/5886894091.html

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Looks like lots of messing around with the crankcase numbers Henri. Why does he talk about a Sunbeam?

Ron

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Re: Identification assistance

Don't have a clue.

Thought it was an unclean gathering of parts. But don't know enough to be sure.

Thanks anyway as always

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Re: Identification assistance

It is a KB 21 as the poor attempt to alter the engine number reveals.
KB21 366 a 1939 Silver Star which never had a polished crankcase.
With that bodged number it will be impossible to put back on the road and the vendor obviously knows this as he has correctly identified it as 1939.

To be generious he may have bought it without knowing what he was getting into but he obviously knows now which is why he
1) lists it as suitable for spares and not a partial restoration
2) throws the Sunbeam red herring in so he can claim he "nose noting"

Run a mile from it good chance it was stolen at some time so you spend a fortune restoring it then the DVLA finds the original owner and sends it back to him.
If you are lucky you just loose the bike.
Unlucky and you get done for receiving stolen goods.

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trevor
It is a KB 21 as the poor attempt to alter the engine number reveals.
KB21 366 a 1939 Silver Star which never had a polished crankcase.
With that bodged number it will be impossible to put back on the road and the vendor obviously knows this as he has correctly identified it as 1939.

To be generious he may have bought it without knowing what he was getting into but he obviously knows now which is why he
1) lists it as suitable for spares and not a partial restoration
2) throws the Sunbeam red herring in so he can claim he "nose noting"

Run a mile from it good chance it was stolen at some time so you spend a fortune restoring it then the DVLA finds the original owner and sends it back to him.
If you are lucky you just loose the bike.
Unlucky and you get done for receiving stolen goods.


I was just going to write exactly the same but you beat me to it!

Re: Identification assistance

I don't think the DVLA will have any say in it, since it's in America. Ron

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Re: Identification assistance

Seller needs his eyes checked out.
He throws in the Sunbeam reference because thats the only match the can find for the valanced mudguards [ a fender being something in front of the fireplace here].

His poor eyesight cannot distinguish between the clear shot of the Sunbeam engine and the BSA one under his nose.

Something iffy going on I reckon, I hear craigslist is soon to be renamed Fagins bazaar?

Re: Identification assistance

trevor
It is a KB 21 as the poor attempt to alter the engine number reveals.
KB21 366 a 1939 Silver Star


I think the Silver Star is the 350cc B24.


Ron

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Re: Identification assistance

Gees Ron,
Now you are going to force me to go & check.
Silver stars were done in more than one capacity from memory, much like the Empire Stars which it replaced.
And I was feeling so smart & proud of myself.

Did not notice it was in the USA so even more reasons for not touching it.
Vehicle titles can be a nightmare in the USA.

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Yes but Trevor, what would us retired old farts be doing if we weren't checking what number goes with what engine. I think the B20 and B21 were the humble old go to work 250 SV and OHV. Whereas the B24 Silver Star was a more exotic 350. Ron

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Yes,
Humble pie time
Silver Stars were the B24 500cc & the M 23 500 cc
Again a marketing exercise like the Empire Stars to run out the last of the obsolete B series engine and changed mid season to the new M series engines.
The B 21;s were labled " De-Luxe " to hide he fact the the C series had made them obsolete.
Mind you the C series was already obsolete and it was only just being released.

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trevor
Yes,
Humble pie time
Silver Stars were the B24 500cc & the M 23 500 cc
Again a marketing exercise like the Empire Stars to run out the last of the obsolete B series engine and changed mid season to the new M series engines.
The B 21;s were labled " De-Luxe " to hide he fact the the C series had made them obsolete.
Mind you the C series was already obsolete and it was only just being released.


Yes Trevor! But I guess your "B24 500cc" is a typo. Ron
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