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Battery to fit Dagenite case.

The original Dagenite 6 volt battery on my WM20 has finally expired. I'm keeping the bike 6 volt and need some advice in respect of the type (AGM, lead acid etc) and capacity (ampere/hour) of battery that I need and that will fit in the now empty case of the original battery.
All advice gratefully received.
Brooky.

email (option): chasgbrook@hotmail.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

I put a CYCLON 8 Amp battery in an original 1943 Lucas PUW7E/5 battery and its still going strong after more than ten years,the old type battery was either 10 or 12 amp the 8 amp that I used was the nearest that I could find at the time that would fit in the hollowed out case,there is also a 6 amp that would fit in but I cant say whether that amp is too low although a modern battery.Just had a look the original PUW7E/5 is 10 amp.  photo DSC_0476_zpsc91ec98a.jpg

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

All my bikes have a Cyclon gel battery like Steve mentions. However nearly all mine are the smaller 5 amp version which I've used for years and are more than adequate for a magneto bike. Here is an ebay add:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-Cyclon-Lead-Battery-6V-5-0Ah-Maintenance-free-0809-0012-/272220998556

But I buy all mine from Mick Ash at jumbles for about half that price and he also sells the 8 amp version that Steve has.

His email is arielfeetup@aol.com Mob 07811 203996.

When I ride a coil ignition bike, I keep a spare one in my bag. (no leaking acid)

Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

Thanks both. The bike will rarely be used in the dark and as such, the battery is only really needed for the horn. I wondered if I could use a basic sealed alarm type battery of about 5ah. I seem to recall somebody on here does just that, without any ill effects. The Cyclon is obviously the ultimate solution but there's no doubting that they are also the most expensive option.
Brooky.

email (option): chasgbrook@hotmail.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

An electrician friend of mine runs his C12 (Coil Ign) with two of those 5 amp burglar alarm batteries taped together. As long as they're the rechargeable type...No Problem. As you say, usually you only need horn and brake light with an emergency back up for lights if needed. Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

Has anyone found gel batteries a little sensitive to over-charging?

email (option): sacombsashtrees@hotmail.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

I run 2 x 5A cyclon packs in parallel .
I was going to use 3 x 10 A single 2V cells but they were 1.5 times the price of the 2 x 5Amp.

However now I run the LED head, tail & Stop lights batteries ar somewhat redundant although it does blow the horn nice and almost loud.

email (option): bsansw1@tpg.com.au

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

Same with me on my Indian special! Two 5 amp Cyclons in parallel to give me 10 amps. It's coil ignition and I did get caught out on a 30 mile ride home after dark. So I've changed the bulbs to LED and I usually carry a spare Cyclon 5 amp for good measure.

My main culprit however was the AO electronic regulator that I'd fitted. There's something about those that they won't cut in if your battery level drops below a certain level. I've now changed it to a http://dynamoregulators.com/dvr2.php and never had a problem since.

Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

What LED bulbs?

email (option): jonny.rudge@verizon.net

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

John Harris
What LED bulbs?


I got my 6v LED bulbs from this guy.

http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/stoptail-lamp-bulbs-shop.php

I bought a non dipping headlamp bulb (I think you can buy dipping bulbs also). A standard pilot bulb and a red stop/tail bulb with white LED's at the back for number plate illumination. All came with the standard caps to plug straight into my original fittings. From memory they cost me £29 with post and they use a 20th of the amps that the originals use. All lights blazing and the needle barely moves.
Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

Yikes!! Sixty quid for a single headlamp bulb??! This thing better wake up the dead, and even then I don't know.

email (option): jonny.rudge@verizon.net

Re: Battery to fit Dagenite case.

Well I don't know either? I's a difficult site to follow and I ended up phoning the guy. He didn't have the dipping bulbs when I bought mine and I couldn't see the point of one anyway, My bill including post was £29 for all three bulbs Ron

email (option): ronpier@talk21.com

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John Harris
Yikes!! Sixty quid for a single headlamp bulb??! This thing better wake up the dead, and even then I don't know.


Well if that is the double dipper, I was not impressed with mine.
A beautiful bright white lite when viewed side on , nice siting behind the bars till you start to move.

On the paddock, with no ambient light, it is good for about 30 mph by which time you over run your own beam.
Haven't tried it on a country road yet but on an urban street not enough light to actually see where our are going and when any vehicle comes up behind you not enough strength to overcome your own shadow.
Fitted to a car, where a pair of them converge it might work but a waste of time & money on a motorcycle.
Just for laughs I taped my LED 6V lantern to the bike & it gave a better light.
Shame I can not get it to fit inside the headlamp shell & it was $ 9.00.
No where nears as much useable light as the old pine cone type of globe.
It is also upside down so I had to turn the refector around 180 deg so the pilot globe is above the headlamp globe to get it to dip properly.

email (option): bsansw1@tpg.com.au

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