A.M.C. also made a one off SWD machine it was tested by MOTOR CYCLE during the war,but the jeep became available and this type of machine was no longer needed. It was a OHV v twin badged as a SUNBEAM which was part of AMC at the time.
I have a 1950's magazine article about this one off AMC outfit by a guy who test rode it. When it was built it had a separate little reverse gearbox which had been removed by the 50's. The chair was the same as Norton's, built by Swallow I believe. Not long after the article, the whole outfit was broken up and the frame was used as reinforcing in Tich Allen's driveway and the engine went into a Brough. Ron
Note it was badged as a Sunbeam..AMC had bought that company...
Legend has it they bought Sunbeam to find out the secrets of the Sunbeam stove enamelling process, considered widely to be the best in the industry at the time....
AMC sold the company on to BSA in, I think, 1943...
I'd like to get my hands on an MX4 engine...Matchless oddly never fitted it to one of their own motorcycles but sold it on to other users such as Brough Superior and Morgan...Very sought after these days..!...Ian
I have a whole set of articles by Bob Currie re this machine, I'll dig them out and post them. They have the full story and its shameful end.
Evidently the gearbox reverse gear went dud and as it was a one off no spares were availiable. The forks were oversized Teledraulics, and went somewhere else.
Just another example of how cherished old bikes were back then. Even in 1971/2 when I built my WD G3L to army spec people thought I was nuts.
[I nearly did go nuts but that was some years later when I opened my bike shop
The original article was pubiished in the June 24th MOTORCYCLING over three and a half pages plus six photos,990cc engine,it states several times that the army decided to use jeeps instead of outfits and that it was completely outclassed by the jeep.
I found my articles, will scan in as soon as I can get near the machine, as wife is having carpets fitted and all the junk is piled up in my computor cubby hole.
Actually, rather than the Jeep thing, my version says that the contract for production of this outfit was awarded to the Standard car company, as AMC were fully occupied.
Standard were a bit put out at being "down graded" to motorcycle production but even more put out when they found they could not work to the tolerances demanded to produce a air cooled V twin!
Who knows that Royal Enfield also produced a SWD outfit using their 1100cc engine.
That was still and running about in 1975ish, reg no EXN 718 in the Birmingham area.
Ian, you should be looking for a MX2, not a MX4 as the former is air cooled and the later water cooled. Also you will need a bike engine, head fins inline with the valves rather than across as on a Morgan. But don't be down hearted as most stuff is available from the Morgan or Brough clubs and Cameron Engineering can provide your dream (at a price).
Richard
Who knows that Royal Enfield also produced a SWD outfit using their 1100cc engine.
That was still and running about in 1975ish, reg no EXN 718 in the Birmingham area.
I'll scan that article as well.
Hi Ken,
I'm interested in that article! Any chance of a copy?
Strange Rob? I see there were some late contracts for 16H combo's with passenger and box bodies. I also see that they don't quote SWD on the covers of those books for box bodies.
I agree that the Union flag is upside down. But I can not believe that a ship in distress would expect anyone to notice an upside down flag. In a state of emergency, there would be far more need to indicate it.....Like flares, Mayday signals and high pitched screams of "DON'T PANIC" etc. Ron
Rob the write up I read (if I can ever find it again) about a road test of this outfit in the 50's before it was broken up. Said that the small additional reverse gearbox had been removed before the test. I seem to remember that it had given some trouble or broken or something. Ron
There appears to be an interesting mix of bits on this bike, apart from the "live" rear axle, presumably to accommodate sidecar wheel drive the frame seat stays are sufficiently bifurcated to accommodate the rear cylinder head poking through. Also it uses a Sturney Archer type gear box (Brough?) not a Burman as in the X although the mag and it's chain case are as in the X. These things plus the oil tank under the seat, an interesting position, were I assume to reduce the wheel base.
Richard.
No live axle on the Sunbeam Richard, it's Rigid, the same as the Norton big 4 and used the same Dolls head gearbox. No differential to the SWD, just a crude dog engagement for the propshaft. Which could end in tears if left engaged on hard ground with both rear wheels being driven together:flushed: Ron