They are now about a size 9 1/2 I'm still working on getting them shaped, it's a bit hard because all the neatsfoot oil won't allow them to get wet, they soaked in the bath for 24 hours , it left a big film of oil around the bath! It must be doing something, because I could barely get them on before, now the right boot is not too bad a fit but the left one, although it fits is still a bit troublesome around the ankle area, it seems to want to flex in just the wrong area for comfort.