Its possible that someone else may take over the running of this enormous event, but just in case I will be making the most of this year and I would suggest if you have not been before now's the time.
Am I the only person who feels that it is wrong to all Germans and others to dress up in SS uniforms when are not allowed to do it in their own Country. I took the view some years ago that this is wrong and I would not go again. Cheers John
John, I'm not happy with it either as I can only regard the donning of a historical military uniform as a tribute...It has put me off going in the past but I was with a lot of the Invicta / W&P people at Dunkirk and they'd more or less convinced me to have a look.
Having done two channel returns last month though...and catching delays from the unexploded mines and then the first of the French strikes, I don't think that I can face it again.
Queuing on the approach road when the illegal hordes come up over the armco is not something to look forward to.
Hry guys, you can always travel Zeebrugge to Dover, or Newcastle to Ijmuiden... The world does not always revolve around France y'know...
Just sayin ;-)
Am I the only person who feels that it is wrong to all Germans and others to dress up in SS uniforms when are not allowed to do it in their own Country. I took the view some years ago that this is wrong and I would not go again. Cheers John
This has always troubled me, I can except that some people want to dress up as soldiers of a war that happen long before they were born, a bit like playing cowboys and Indians perhaps but I dislike it when they award themselves a rank they are not entitled to, Goodwood Revival is an example. However people who wear insignia of fascism are deeply offensive to those who struggled and died to allow us the freedom to discuss it now, and therefore to me. I've traveled in the Ukraine and Russia for years and the fear and hatred of fascism is real and well remembered especially by the older folk who suffered. I know at least one old lady who would claw out the eyes of anyone wearing a SS/swastika badge. They may look smart in their Hugo Boss designed uniforms but the inside can be as evil as the outside. Challenge them at every turn!
Rant over.
Richard
I take the opposite view...It doesn't bother me in the least...Isn't the freedom to express yourself what the war was fought for after all...?
You can't have your cake and eat it...
Ironically, many 'liberals' seem to turn into the thing they resent when others don't agree with their view of the world...
I met a woman who spent some time in a concentration camp and her view was that whilst she didn't understand why people would want to wear that particular uniform she didn't feel they should be stopped from doing so...
A commendably balanced view from someone who suffered at the hands of the Nazis, she was obviously a true 'liberal'.. Perhaps her experiences gave her such a clear appreciation of the value of freedom and free expression...
I also spoke to some veterans at a show organised by our local branch of the MVT and asked whether the presence of people in German uniform offended them..one laughed and said..'It's good to see the opposition here'...
The reality is very few people in this country complain about it and realise that the war against the Nazis was fought and won and that what they are seeing is just 'historical theatre' within the context of a historic military show....
Regarding 'rank' and any entitlement it is not the same as 'awards'...
Someone who was made a Corporal or Sergeant might have received that promotion purely because of the fact that those above him became casualties and not because of individual merit...
Individual awards such as bravery awards are given for obvious reasons and there are laws governing the wearing of them..
For that reason the legal requirement for 'entitlement' does apply, unlike the ranks above....
It is a complete nonsense to suggest that someone in a period uniform displaying a corporals or other rank is doing something he is not 'entitled' to..
Remember also that 'private' is a rank, although it doesn't have a badge to indicate that, so the wearing of any uniform on the basis of so called 'rank entitlement' would be unacceptable if that argument were logically followed to its conclusion...Ian
Well said Ian, the whole thing gets blown out of context, you only got to see what the Sun "newspaper" has dragged up, and I bet have a good idea which Vet said about the opposition, and always remember talking to Piper Bill Milan about being offended, then he posed for a photo with the lads dressed Germans so he could send it to his mate, late of the German Army
I have discussed this subject with John T and while I do not share his views, I respect and understand them and recognise them as valid. It's one of things you have to decide upon in your own conscience. My second cousin, also Fergus Anckorn, was a Jap POW who went through hell and back (do read his book, Surviving by Magic) and he bears no animosity to the Japanese people or his former guards, something I cannot really understand myself but how can I say he is wrong to feel that way. I agree with Ian's general point that respecting very divergent beliefs and viewpoints is what our Dads and Mums fought for. All that said, there is of course the lunatic fringe who latch on to Nazi paraphernalia to demonstrate their weird beliefs, but the re-enactors I talk to are not part of this.........apart from the occasional nutcase, but you find them anywhere!