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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Hello Rob.On my big 4 that measurement is only 6 1/2 ".I think the measurement you need is the total length overall as the swan neck length determines the ground clearance at the front of the sidecar chassis.Hope this helps. photo big401_zps7e8a1230.jpg  photo big403_zps49d10f47.jpg

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Thanks for the input everyone, but I think we still need more.

Sven, in order to see if the big4 chassis had more ground clearance than the 16H combo please could you measure the height of the sidecar wheel spindle centre above the chassis.

Sam, that is a very nice original looking big4 you have there.

Rob

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Hi all, am thousands of miles away from my Biggy's, so no measurements from me for a while, sorry

Cheers,

Lex

ps, will be playing with some enfields in the dessert coming weekend though!

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Here you go Rob;

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Regards,

Sven

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Thanks Sven, I just replied to your email.

It looks like your non driven chassis has a measurement of about 12cm from the top of the chassis rail to the centre of the wheel spindle.

My driven big4 chassis appears to be about 7cm.

The difference of aprox 5cm is close to the difference in length on the front sidecar fittings being discussed.

So here is the theory, Norton gave the big4 more ground clearance than a standard outfit and had to shorten the front upper fitting to compensate.

Apologies to the engineers who use this site for the lack of accuracy but its not easy getting at some of these bits.

Rob

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

sam
Hello Rob.On my big 4 that measurement is only 6 1/2 ".I think the measurement you need is the total length overall as the swan neck length determines the ground clearance at the front of the sidecar chassis.Hope this helps.


Hi Sam, your big4 seems to have an extra plate on the front of the engine for the bottom front fitting, I haven't seen one like that before any chance of a closer picture please.

Rob

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Rob some more for you to think about. I just measured my chassis from the floor to centre of side tubes. N/S in two paces = about 9" O/S (by bike) in two places = about 8 1/2". So a lean of the chair towards the bike of about 1/2". I set my outfit up with the correct amount of 'lean out' as per the book, and this might account for the lean of the chassis. My swan neck appears to be the same as your long one.

Regarding that plate on Sams outfit. It has been fitted with the banana shaped plate that holds the lower support bar, in a forward position and it looks like someone has had to make a plate to receive the other end of the support bar.

Here is mine.Ron

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

The more upright you put the front upper fitting the shorter it would need to be so perhaps both would fit but one would be incorrect by putting the sidecar wheel too far forward or back in relation to the back wheel?

On the front lower fitting I had to make the front banana shaped plate and the distance tube so I may not have them spot on, does anyone have originals that they could measure?

2163 front plate hole centre distance

2162 distance tube length

Rob

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Rob I think I understand what you are saying. But I set mine up as near as possible to the book with the side car wheel slightly forward of the rear wheel on the bike. You can see this in the picture of my chassis, by the angle of the prop shaft. I created the correct amount of lean out. But I only towed the outfit in by about 1" instead of the ridiculous prescribed 2". (Probably correct for an outfit as heavy carrying three blokes with kit and ammo).
My banana plate is original and I just made the support tube to suit. Ron

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Re: Norton Big4 Sidecar fittings

Rob Miller


So here is the theory, Norton gave the big4 more ground clearance than a standard outfit and had to shorten the front upper fitting to compensate.



General opinion seems to be that the longer fitting is the correct one so the above theory must be wrong.

Rob

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