Well Henk, you certainly made my day here (not)
Just when I thought I had it all, I see that I'm missing the little cord and seal around the tin!!
The first to be thrown away, so finding a NOS one will be next to impossible??
Here some more tyre accesories;
Honly joking Henk!!
Cheers,
Lex
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This is how I bought my tin.
My tin has "EXISTING CONDITIONS MAY ALTER PRICE AND CONTENTS" on the side of the tin. Could they mean war time conditions with that?
Henk
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Mine's got it as well Henk! is that advert you placed dated? Has anyone noticed these tins also have a slot in the lid and on the bottom seams for the sealing string to stay in its place? mine also has a small container with french chalk in it. could it be from another set? anyone has hot a spare wire brush for sale? i still have a full set of patches; No1, 2, 3, 4 and a large piece from which to cut other sizes. it also came with a rubber solution tube not tin.....it makes a lot of sense these sets with the 'existing conditions' warning are wartime especially since unlike Lex's and the advert one they have no price printed on them.
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Clive, I have a couple too;
But they came from the round Romac tins on ebay a while ago, that are dated 1947;
I bought some as they were very cheap.
Now another question, I have a couple pairs of scissors, and on one the "Made in England" is in line with the blade, but another it's at 90 degrees??
Sorry folks, serious rivet counter territory here, but if you have all other stuff, you'll have to collect something!
Cheers,
Lex
ps, Clive may have a Dunlop wire brush spare.
pps, isn't half a crown the price??
ppps, Yes I saw the identation for the cord, nice detail!
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Henk, before you change the picture again, I'll post it here too;
Haven't found the Dunlop brushes yet, but will keep looking!
Lex
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Here are mine
Supposedly the correct wartime tin is the tall D shaped tin with black lettering, mine also has "Existing conditions may alter price and contents" on the side..
Lex your tin shown in the first picture has some red in the top scroll, what period is that one? could it be pre war?
My round red painted tin is dated 1949.
Not sure what period my round 2s6d tin is but it could be a civilian version of the post war plain or red tin.
My short D shaped tin is made from unused tall D shaped tin material so I assume it is late war or post war.
Rob
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I think this thread's great. The tins are nice but I never thought that I'd see a discussion on pairs of scissors. I'd say that the rounded end type were introduced so that old motorcycle obsessives can't injure each other in their padded cells !
i'm loving this discussion! i have a model D52 kit made from a recycled tin of ministry of food National baby milk powder. this kit has a price label stuck on it (1s9d). it seems that this one may be pre-war although i have always assumed otherwise. the style of printing is in the style of the advert below. this advert supposedly dates from 1939.i have also tried to find a date for the National tin but on the web i found they were produced from 1939 to the 1950s so its not very helpful.
it is also very strange that i have an advert that is supposedly dated 1949 in which the romac logo seems to be like the half a crown model. i think this logo was used well into the 60s. maybe Romac changed thir logo in the middle of the war? did they have time for that? what else could 'the existing conditions' be if not a war? what is so strange is that Henk's picture of a packed wartime M20 toolkit shows a romac kit with the oval logo and the 'warnings' (so unassumingly contents on the other side) and not the 'existing conditions type!
Rob, is you 'short' one a Shilling model? it apparently used to be ribbon sealed as well. all the D52s I've seen so far didn't. i agree with you Lex that the pointed scissors are earlier but how earlier? pre-war or wartime with the rounded ones being post war?
1949 advert below
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I bought another version of the Romac tin at Beaulieu, a little bigger in all dimensions than the "standard" pattern, again the bottom is made from recycled metal, possibly a furniture polish tin?
I suspect the use of recycled metal makes it more likely to be later, at least mid war, and as this has the same use of red as Lex's tin I'm starting to think his could be later too?
There was another tin for sale at Beaulieu, it appeared to be the same dimensions as the standard tin but the label was printed paper rather than the printing straight on to the metal as normal. It could have been a wartime economy version? The price was a little more than I wanted to pay so I left it.
Rob
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Here's the other tin I have, but I thought it was postwar??
Cheers,
Lex
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This is a Romac tin I got a few years back on ebay.
What do you guys think? war/ postwar?
Cheers,
Leon
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Post 1942, Leon that means that you have tree scissors and due to "existing conditions" no rubber patches to cut to size to fix your tyre, bummer.
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Then I have to ask someone on an early bike.....and trade for a scissors
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I now have a red-lined 'Half-a-Crown' tin with contents. It seems likely that if this is indeed from the late 1930s, its use would have continued until the wartime economy changes came into force.
For comparison, I've shown it beside a 'One Shilling' tin which has an identical style except for the lack of red in the printing.
Contents are pretty much as per Lex's, although the sheet is black. The solution bottle doesn't include red in the design and the pointed scissors seem correct. brush is Romac branded.
It seems to have been standard procedure at Romac to re-use offcuts of printed tinplate for the bases - this one was from a packaging that cost 3'6d...presumably the Rols-Royce kit.
And there was me thinking these were rare... ..(or does this thread contain the entire world supply?)...
Far too much rivet counting for me, but interesting nevertheless...Ian
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I'm made up with this thread. At least I now know that there are people out there more barking mad than I am!!
i think i made a bargian, for a change! just bought a pair of pointed scissors for 2.99.....
still missing the wire brush thou. someone has one for sale?
Oh No! They'll be going for £300 on ebay now!
never mind collecting military motorcycles it got to be Romac tyre repair tins there seems to be hundreds of different sizes
Oh dear lots of my images missing from this tread since I fell out with photobucket, hopefully these are the missing ones?
Rob
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